Re: Get file argument

2016-09-04 Thread Andreas Falkenhahn
On 04.09.2016 at 20:48 Jens Alfke wrote:



> On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:56 AM, Andreas Falkenhahn  wrote:

> Is there also a way to get the file argument without having an NSApp,
> i.e. can my program somehow obtain the file argument *before* creating
> the NSApp object or is that impossible?



> Perhaps through LaunchServices

Any pointers? I don't see anything that could help me here but that document is
quite confusing anyway with so many things deprecated...

> I do still feel that your attempt to build this 3rd-party code
> wrapper by avoiding the normal Cocoa application/event loop is a
> mistake. You’re going to run into one problem after another by going
> completely against the grain of the framework like this.

Don't worry, I'm pretty much done already and it's working fine. 
And I'm not the only one who is using a custom solution. Check out
popular toolkits like SDL, GLFW, wxWidgets... they all do it one or
another. And even Apple says that it's legit:

"Override run if you want the app to manage the main event loop differently
than it does by default. (This a critical and complex task, however, that you
should only attempt with good reason.)"

I just wish there'd be some more information on how exactly this "critical
and complex task" should be implemented in practice ;)

-- 
Best regards,
 Andreas Falkenhahnmailto:andr...@falkenhahn.com


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Re: Get file argument

2016-09-04 Thread Jean-Daniel Dupas

> Le 4 sept. 2016 à 20:48, Jens Alfke  a écrit :
> 
> 
>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:56 AM, Andreas Falkenhahn  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is there also a way to get the file argument without having an NSApp,
>> i.e. can my program somehow obtain the file argument *before* creating
>> the NSApp object or is that impossible?
> 
> Perhaps through LaunchServices, or by implementing its own AppleEvent handler 
> for the ‘odoc’ event.
> 
> I do still feel that your attempt to build this 3rd-party code wrapper by 
> avoiding the normal Cocoa application/event loop is a mistake. You’re going 
> to run into one problem after another by going completely against the grain 
> of the framework like this.
> 

Whatever you do, you still have to pull the incoming events, else you Apple 
Event won’t be dispatched. As the canonical way to do that is though NSApp, I 
don’t now if this is possible.



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Re: Get file argument

2016-09-04 Thread Jens Alfke

> On Sep 4, 2016, at 4:56 AM, Andreas Falkenhahn  wrote:
> 
> Is there also a way to get the file argument without having an NSApp,
> i.e. can my program somehow obtain the file argument *before* creating
> the NSApp object or is that impossible?

Perhaps through LaunchServices, or by implementing its own AppleEvent handler 
for the ‘odoc’ event.

I do still feel that your attempt to build this 3rd-party code wrapper by 
avoiding the normal Cocoa application/event loop is a mistake. You’re going to 
run into one problem after another by going completely against the grain of the 
framework like this.

—Jens
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Get file argument

2016-09-04 Thread Andreas Falkenhahn
When double-clicking a document file that is to be opened with my app,
the path to this file isn't passed in argv[] but can be obtained by 
implementing "openFile" in the NSApplicationDelegate.

Is there also a way to get the file argument without having an NSApp,
i.e. can my program somehow obtain the file argument *before* creating
the NSApp object or is that impossible?

-- 
Best regards,
 Andreas Falkenhahn  mailto:andr...@falkenhahn.com

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