Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On 25 Jun 2015, at 12:34, Sandor Szatmari admin.szatmari@gmail.com wrote: I wrote an interface to a third party app using the Scripting Bridge. It worked pretty good but I had to test the SBApplication object for nil before accessing it. Periodically it would return nil unexpectedly. Don't know if that was a bug in the app's implementation or something I was doing wrong. But other than that it worked great. I did what you described, first use sdef and sdp to create the header. Include the header and then create an instance of SBApplication using the third party app's bundle identifier 'com.name.whatever'. I have definitely seen apps that are broken too. They support AppleScript but not fully or something so the scripting bridge is broken for them. Sandor Szatmari That’s the problem, “sdef and/or “sdp barf when I try to generate the header file and without the header file you are pretty much dead in the water. Cheers Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On 25 Jun 2015, at 13:33, Bill Cheeseman wjcheese...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: That’s the problem, “sdef and/or “sdp barf when I try to generate the header file and without the header file you are pretty much dead in the water. I haven't noticed a specific description of the failure you're experiencing. Do you get a partial header file, or a header file that contains errors or that causes errors in your Scripting Bridge implementation? I have found in the past that I can manually edit header files generated by sdef/sdp, at least by removing irrelevant declarations that aren't needed or that cause problems, and when I do it right the edited header files work with Scripting Bridge. I get this error: sdp: enumerator of enumeration e183: missing required name attribute. and an (very) incomplete file, e.g. most of it is missing. All the Best Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On 25 Jun 2015, at 14:48, Bill Cheeseman wjcheese...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: I get this error: sdp: enumerator of enumeration e183: missing required name attribute. Can you generate the sdef file separately, then manually edit it to supply the missing required 'name' attribute, and then run sdp on the edited sdef file? You will presumably have to give more than a little thought to what the missing name attribute should be, but maybe you'll hit pay dirt. I’m looking into doing that now, but I can’t seem to find an editor that will open it, at the moment it’s ONE giant line of text, I renamed it to .xml and tried to open in XCode - same. Cheers Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On further investigation, the App doesn’t have an .sdef, so, the “sdef” tool, must generate it from the old style ‘aete’ resources. So, the fault could be in either “sdef” or “sdp”. I’ve trying to look at the output from “sdef” but it’s in a horrible format - no line endings, so it’s hard to read. If I try to open it as an xml in XCode all I get is a one HUGE line of text and XCode struggles to deal with it (slow as a very slow thing on a cold morning). Cheers Dave On 25 Jun 2015, at 14:29, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: On 25 Jun 2015, at 14:24, Jean-Daniel Dupas mail...@xenonium.com wrote: That just means you wrote an invalid sdef file in the first place. Really? No kidding?!?!? lol The .sdef file comes with the App I am trying to generate the header file for! ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/dave%40looktowindward.com This email sent to d...@looktowindward.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
Le 25 juin 2015 à 15:13, Dave d...@looktowindward.com a écrit : On 25 Jun 2015, at 13:33, Bill Cheeseman wjcheese...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: That’s the problem, “sdef and/or “sdp barf when I try to generate the header file and without the header file you are pretty much dead in the water. I haven't noticed a specific description of the failure you're experiencing. Do you get a partial header file, or a header file that contains errors or that causes errors in your Scripting Bridge implementation? I have found in the past that I can manually edit header files generated by sdef/sdp, at least by removing irrelevant declarations that aren't needed or that cause problems, and when I do it right the edited header files work with Scripting Bridge. I get this error: sdp: enumerator of enumeration e183: missing required name attribute. and an (very) incomplete file, e.g. most of it is missing. That just means you wrote an invalid sdef file in the first place. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
Hi, Is the source code of “sdp” available anywhere? Just a thought. All the Best Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:09 AM, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: That’s the problem, “sdef and/or “sdp barf when I try to generate the header file and without the header file you are pretty much dead in the water. I haven't noticed a specific description of the failure you're experiencing. Do you get a partial header file, or a header file that contains errors or that causes errors in your Scripting Bridge implementation? I have found in the past that I can manually edit header files generated by sdef/sdp, at least by removing irrelevant declarations that aren't needed or that cause problems, and when I do it right the edited header files work with Scripting Bridge. -- Bill Cheeseman - b...@cheeseman.name ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: I get this error: sdp: enumerator of enumeration e183: missing required name attribute. Can you generate the sdef file separately, then manually edit it to supply the missing required 'name' attribute, and then run sdp on the edited sdef file? You will presumably have to give more than a little thought to what the missing name attribute should be, but maybe you'll hit paydirt. -- Bill Cheeseman - b...@cheeseman.name ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On 25 Jun 2015, at 14:24, Jean-Daniel Dupas mail...@xenonium.com wrote: That just means you wrote an invalid sdef file in the first place. Really? No kidding?!?!? lol The .sdef file comes with the App I am trying to generate the header file for! ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
Hi, Can you open the dictionary in Scripteditor? Is the application launched when you run sdef or open the dictionary in Scripteditor? I can’t seem to find an editor that will open it Try Xcode or TextWrangler with soft wrap switched on in the preferences. Or Sdef Editor, ignore the warnings and save as…. Willeke ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
Le 25 juin 2015 à 15:57, Dave d...@looktowindward.com a écrit : On 25 Jun 2015, at 14:48, Bill Cheeseman wjcheese...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: I get this error: sdp: enumerator of enumeration e183: missing required name attribute. Can you generate the sdef file separately, then manually edit it to supply the missing required 'name' attribute, and then run sdp on the edited sdef file? You will presumably have to give more than a little thought to what the missing name attribute should be, but maybe you'll hit pay dirt. I’m looking into doing that now, but I can’t seem to find an editor that will open it, at the moment it’s ONE giant line of text, I renamed it to .xml and tried to open in XCode - same. You can pretty format it using xmllint command line tool. xmllint --pretty 1 yourfile.xml your_formatted_file.xml Cheers Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/mailing%40xenonium.com This email sent to mail...@xenonium.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On 25 Jun 2015, at 17:14, Jean-Daniel Dupas mail...@xenonium.com wrote: You can pretty format it using xmllint command line tool. xmllint --pretty 1 yourfile.xml your_formatted_file.xml I knocked up a utility to do it but thanks anyway. Once I could see where the problem was, I fixed the output from “sdef” quite easily and then ran this file through “sdp”, e.g. sdef .app .txt // reformat and edit .txt and then: cat .txt | sdp -fh --basename App When I included the generated header file in my project, here were a few duplicate definitions which I fixed and it compiled ok! That was a really good hack! Many Thanks to everyone that helped on this. All the Best Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On 25 Jun 2015, at 00:30, Graham Cox graham@bigpond.com wrote: On 24 Jun 2015, at 9:22 pm, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: I was wondering if I should just give up now and forget using the Bridge or if there’s any chance that I might get a usable header file generated somehow. My instincts tell me to give up, but if anyone knows better or they know a better solution I’d really appreciate a pointer….. Scripting Bridge worked for me to implement a programmatic interface to Mail. Long time since I did it, forget what, if any, issues I had, but don’t recall any particular problems. Yes, it seems to work with all Apple Apps I’ve tested with, (which is all it mentions in the examples), but not with third party apps. It probably is also dependant when when the application was created too. Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Scripting Bridge Questions
Hi All, I’m doing some investigative work using the Scripting Bridge: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/ScriptingBridgeConcepts/ScriptingBridgeConcepts.pdf The first step is to use the “sdef” and “sdp” terminal commands to generate header files that can be included in your project. From my experimentation I’ve come to the conclusion that it will only work on a subset of AppleScriptable applications, in that when you run the “sdp command it gives errors and leaves you with an incomplete header file. I can’t seem to find any documentation apart from the “man” page. I was wondering if I should just give up now and forget using the Bridge or if there’s any chance that I might get a usable header file generated somehow. My instincts tell me to give up, but if anyone knows better or they know a better solution I’d really appreciate a pointer….. Thanks a lot, All the Best Dave ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Scripting Bridge Questions
On 24 Jun 2015, at 9:22 pm, Dave d...@looktowindward.com wrote: I was wondering if I should just give up now and forget using the Bridge or if there’s any chance that I might get a usable header file generated somehow. My instincts tell me to give up, but if anyone knows better or they know a better solution I’d really appreciate a pointer….. Scripting Bridge worked for me to implement a programmatic interface to Mail. Long time since I did it, forget what, if any, issues I had, but don’t recall any particular problems. —Graham ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
