Re: Xcode 14 minimum deployment target
> On Oct 28, 2022, at 9:29 AM, Markus Spoettl via Cocoa-dev > wrote: > > On 10/28/22 1:40 PM, Mark Allan via Cocoa-dev wrote: >> I've held off upgrading for the same reason. I wonder if it's something to >> do with a >> semantic difference between "is no longer supported" and "is no longer >> possible". Maybe >> what they really mean is "if it appears to work, great, but we can't >> guarantee it, and >> if it fails spectacularly, you're on your own"? > > That would certainly be great to know for sure. And where exactly it would > fail spectacularly (if it did), meaning on the development machine or on a > user's machine running an unsupported-by-Xcode system. We didn't notice that > change and released an update to our app which targets 10.11 as deployment > target. > > Regards > Markus > -- > __ > Markus Spoettl > > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/chris%40kode54.net > > This email sent to ch...@kode54.net This requirement appears to have been delayed to 14.1, since 14.0 had to be released before Ventura came out. The hard block is on the macOS 13 SDK, which was pushed back to Xcode 14.1. Xcode 14.0 and 14.0.1 as released on the App Store still include the 12.3 SDK. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Xcode 14 minimum deployment target
On 10/28/22 1:40 PM, Mark Allan via Cocoa-dev wrote: I've held off upgrading for the same reason. I wonder if it's something to do with a semantic difference between "is no longer supported" and "is no longer possible". Maybe what they really mean is "if it appears to work, great, but we can't guarantee it, and if it fails spectacularly, you're on your own"? That would certainly be great to know for sure. And where exactly it would fail spectacularly (if it did), meaning on the development machine or on a user's machine running an unsupported-by-Xcode system. We didn't notice that change and released an update to our app which targets 10.11 as deployment target. Regards Markus -- __ Markus Spoettl ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Xcode 14 minimum deployment target
I've held off upgrading for the same reason. I wonder if it's something to do with a semantic difference between "is no longer supported" and "is no longer possible". Maybe what they really mean is "if it appears to work, great, but we can't guarantee it, and if it fails spectacularly, you're on your own"? Mark > On 28 Oct 2022, at 12:08 pm, Eyal Redler via Cocoa-dev > wrote: > > Could be, but I just found in the xcode 14 release notes: > >• Building for deployment to OS releases older than macOS 10.13, iOS 11, > tvOS 11, and watchOS 4 is no longer supported. (92834476) > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode-release-notes/xcode-14-release-notes > > Yet I'm am able to do just that without an issue... > > Eyal > > > >> On 28 Oct 2022, at 13:54, Saagar Jha wrote: >> >> I believe Xcode 14 has the old macOS bits (with the new iOS SDK). Try 14.1? >> >>> On Oct 28, 2022, at 03:51, Eyal Redler via Cocoa-dev >>> wrote: >>> >>> I read somewhere (can't recall where) that xcode 14 will not support >>> deployment target < macOS 10.13. >>> I was bracing myself for having to somehow develop my app on two machines >>> for a while or ditching my pre 10.13 users but after installing xcode 14 on >>> my new M1 machine I found out that I can compile and build my app with >>> minimum deployment target of 10.9 and could not find an issue when running >>> it on 10.9. >>> >>> I'm not sure what to make of it, did I misunderstand this, is it a fluke? >>> Did Apple change their policy? >>> >>> Eyal Redler >>> >>> "If Uri Geller bends spoons with divine powers, then he's doing it the hard >>> way." >>> --James Randi >>> www.eyalredler.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >>> >>> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >>> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >>> >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/saagar%40saagarjha.com >>> >>> This email sent to saa...@saagarjha.com > > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/markjallan%40gmail.com > > This email sent to markjal...@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Xcode 14 minimum deployment target
Could be, but I just found in the xcode 14 release notes: • Building for deployment to OS releases older than macOS 10.13, iOS 11, tvOS 11, and watchOS 4 is no longer supported. (92834476) https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode-release-notes/xcode-14-release-notes Yet I'm am able to do just that without an issue... Eyal > On 28 Oct 2022, at 13:54, Saagar Jha wrote: > > I believe Xcode 14 has the old macOS bits (with the new iOS SDK). Try 14.1? > >> On Oct 28, 2022, at 03:51, Eyal Redler via Cocoa-dev >> wrote: >> >> I read somewhere (can't recall where) that xcode 14 will not support >> deployment target < macOS 10.13. >> I was bracing myself for having to somehow develop my app on two machines >> for a while or ditching my pre 10.13 users but after installing xcode 14 on >> my new M1 machine I found out that I can compile and build my app with >> minimum deployment target of 10.9 and could not find an issue when running >> it on 10.9. >> >> I'm not sure what to make of it, did I misunderstand this, is it a fluke? >> Did Apple change their policy? >> >> Eyal Redler >> >> "If Uri Geller bends spoons with divine powers, then he's doing it the hard >> way." >> --James Randi >> www.eyalredler.com >> >> >> ___ >> >> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >> >> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >> >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/saagar%40saagarjha.com >> >> This email sent to saa...@saagarjha.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Xcode 14 minimum deployment target
I believe Xcode 14 has the old macOS bits (with the new iOS SDK). Try 14.1? > On Oct 28, 2022, at 03:51, Eyal Redler via Cocoa-dev > wrote: > > I read somewhere (can't recall where) that xcode 14 will not support > deployment target < macOS 10.13. > I was bracing myself for having to somehow develop my app on two machines for > a while or ditching my pre 10.13 users but after installing xcode 14 on my > new M1 machine I found out that I can compile and build my app with minimum > deployment target of 10.9 and could not find an issue when running it on 10.9. > > I'm not sure what to make of it, did I misunderstand this, is it a fluke? Did > Apple change their policy? > > Eyal Redler > > "If Uri Geller bends spoons with divine powers, then he's doing it the hard > way." > --James Randi > www.eyalredler.com > > > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/saagar%40saagarjha.com > > This email sent to saa...@saagarjha.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Xcode 14 minimum deployment target
I read somewhere (can't recall where) that xcode 14 will not support deployment target < macOS 10.13. I was bracing myself for having to somehow develop my app on two machines for a while or ditching my pre 10.13 users but after installing xcode 14 on my new M1 machine I found out that I can compile and build my app with minimum deployment target of 10.9 and could not find an issue when running it on 10.9. I'm not sure what to make of it, did I misunderstand this, is it a fluke? Did Apple change their policy? Eyal Redler "If Uri Geller bends spoons with divine powers, then he's doing it the hard way." --James Randi www.eyalredler.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
