Re: xCode troubles
On 15 May 2019, at 11:40, Peter Hudson wrote: Hi John As things are now working ok again - the relevant files have been refreshed - there is probably little point in my sending you the project. If the problem occurs again, I’ll send the project over for you to have a look at. Okay, thanks. John. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: xCode troubles
Hi John As things are now working ok again - the relevant files have been refreshed - there is probably little point in my sending you the project. If the problem occurs again, I’ll send the project over for you to have a look at. All the best Peter > On 15 May 2019, at 05:45, John McCall wrote: > > > > On 15 May 2019, at 0:35, Richard Charles wrote: > >>> On May 14, 2019, at 10:19 PM, John McCall wrote: >>> >>> It's unfixed because it's apparently very hard to reliably reproduce. If >>> you have reliable steps for reproduction, we'd be very interested. >> >> Perhaps Peter Hudson could send you his corrupted project before it was >> reset. That might be useful. > > If Peter is willing to share that project (under Apple's usual promises of > confidentiality, if it can't be reduced), together with instructions for how > to reproduce the problem, that would be great. > > John. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: xCode troubles
Maybe Totte could use QuickTime to record the issue happening and provide more specifics about the version of Xcode and his setup. > On May 14, 2019, at 11:19 PM, John McCall wrote: > > > > On 15 May 2019, at 0:03, Ben Kennedy wrote: > >> The phenomenon you're describing is a long-standing bug in Xcode that Apple >> does not seem interested in fixing. >> >> I finally filed it last November as rdar://46203599. It was closed as a >> duplicate of rdar://9706748 (!). (That's actually rather alarming, because >> it's 36.5 million numbers earlier; judging my library of old and still-open >> bugs, that would put it at mid-2011 or so...) > > It's unfixed because it's apparently very hard to reliably reproduce. If you > have reliable steps for reproduction, we'd be very interested. > > John. > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/zav%40mac.com > > This email sent to z...@mac.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: xCode troubles
On 15 May 2019, at 0:35, Richard Charles wrote: On May 14, 2019, at 10:19 PM, John McCall wrote: It's unfixed because it's apparently very hard to reliably reproduce. If you have reliable steps for reproduction, we'd be very interested. Perhaps Peter Hudson could send you his corrupted project before it was reset. That might be useful. If Peter is willing to share that project (under Apple's usual promises of confidentiality, if it can't be reduced), together with instructions for how to reproduce the problem, that would be great. John. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: xCode troubles
> On May 14, 2019, at 10:19 PM, John McCall wrote: > > It's unfixed because it's apparently very hard to reliably reproduce. If you > have reliable steps for reproduction, we'd be very interested. Perhaps Peter Hudson could send you his corrupted project before it was reset. That might be useful. --Richard Charles ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: xCode troubles
On 15 May 2019, at 0:03, Ben Kennedy wrote: The phenomenon you're describing is a long-standing bug in Xcode that Apple does not seem interested in fixing. I finally filed it last November as rdar://46203599. It was closed as a duplicate of rdar://9706748 (!). (That's actually rather alarming, because it's 36.5 million numbers earlier; judging my library of old and still-open bugs, that would put it at mid-2011 or so...) It's unfixed because it's apparently very hard to reliably reproduce. If you have reliable steps for reproduction, we'd be very interested. John. ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: xCode troubles
The phenomenon you're describing is a long-standing bug in Xcode that Apple does not seem interested in fixing. I finally filed it last November as rdar://46203599. It was closed as a duplicate of rdar://9706748 (!). (That's actually rather alarming, because it's 36.5 million numbers earlier; judging my library of old and still-open bugs, that would put it at mid-2011 or so...) -ben > On 14 May 2019, at 3:20 pm, Peter Hudson wrote: > > Hi Jens > > Sorry my description was not clear. What happened is that the edit widget > panel would appear on the right hand side - but would have no tools in it. > When I selected an object in the storyboard ( e.g. a table view) none of the > appropriate editing tools would appear in any of the panels on the right. > Hence any editing of GUI was impossible. > > Richard Charles’s response earlier in the day has however fixed it. He > suggested removing a couple of files in the project bundle. > > Many thanks > > Peter > > > > >> On 14 May 2019, at 23:05, Jens Alfke wrote: >> >> >> >>> On May 14, 2019, at 3:39 AM, Peter Hudson wrote: >>> >>> xCode has just decided ( for the 20th time this week ) that I don’t deserve >>> any UI tools in Interface Builder - as in the panel on the right hand side >>> of the main window. I have tried everything I can think of to try to get >>> them back - like restarting xCode, opening different files etc. >> >> You mean that clicking the Show Inspectors button on the right end of the >> toolbar didn’t work, nor did Cmd-Opt-zero? >> >> —Jens > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/ben%40zygoat.ca > > This email sent to b...@zygoat.ca ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: xCode troubles
Hi Jens Sorry my description was not clear. What happened is that the edit widget panel would appear on the right hand side - but would have no tools in it. When I selected an object in the storyboard ( e.g. a table view) none of the appropriate editing tools would appear in any of the panels on the right. Hence any editing of GUI was impossible. Richard Charles’s response earlier in the day has however fixed it. He suggested removing a couple of files in the project bundle. Many thanks Peter > On 14 May 2019, at 23:05, Jens Alfke wrote: > > > >> On May 14, 2019, at 3:39 AM, Peter Hudson wrote: >> >> xCode has just decided ( for the 20th time this week ) that I don’t deserve >> any UI tools in Interface Builder - as in the panel on the right hand side >> of the main window. I have tried everything I can think of to try to get >> them back - like restarting xCode, opening different files etc. > > You mean that clicking the Show Inspectors button on the right end of the > toolbar didn’t work, nor did Cmd-Opt-zero? > > —Jens ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: xCode troubles
> On May 14, 2019, at 3:39 AM, Peter Hudson wrote: > > xCode has just decided ( for the 20th time this week ) that I don’t deserve > any UI tools in Interface Builder - as in the panel on the right hand side of > the main window. I have tried everything I can think of to try to get them > back - like restarting xCode, opening different files etc. You mean that clicking the Show Inspectors button on the right end of the toolbar didn’t work, nor did Cmd-Opt-zero? —Jens ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: xCode troubles
Thanks Richard ! Removing those two files has worked - I have my GUI tools back ! Peter > On 14 May 2019, at 15:54, Richard Charles wrote: > > >> On May 14, 2019, at 4:39 AM, Peter Hudson wrote: >> >> Hi All >> >> xCode has just decided ( for the 20th time this week ) that I don’t deserve >> any UI tools in Interface Builder - as in the panel on the right hand side >> of the main window. I have tried everything I can think of to try to get >> them back - like restarting xCode, opening different files etc. > > When a single file is opened the default is no toolbar, no left side > navigator, and no right side utilities. > > When a project is opened then you should get everything. Does this happen > when you open a brand new project? > > You can reset an existing project by opening the xcodeproj bundle and > discarding the xcworkspace bundle and xcuserdata folder. Keep the pbxproj > bundle. > > --Richard Charles > ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: xCode troubles
> On May 14, 2019, at 4:39 AM, Peter Hudson wrote: > > Hi All > > xCode has just decided ( for the 20th time this week ) that I don’t deserve > any UI tools in Interface Builder - as in the panel on the right hand side of > the main window. I have tried everything I can think of to try to get them > back - like restarting xCode, opening different files etc. When a single file is opened the default is no toolbar, no left side navigator, and no right side utilities. When a project is opened then you should get everything. Does this happen when you open a brand new project? You can reset an existing project by opening the xcodeproj bundle and discarding the xcworkspace bundle and xcuserdata folder. Keep the pbxproj bundle. --Richard Charles ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: xCode troubles
Not sure how I would trash xCode preferences. Peter > On 14 May 2019, at 11:48, Sandor Szatmari > wrote: > > Peter, > >> On May 14, 2019, at 06:39, Peter Hudson wrote: >> >> Hi All >> >> xCode has just decided ( for the 20th time this week ) that I don’t deserve >> any UI tools in Interface Builder - as in the panel on the right hand side >> of the main window. I have tried everything I can think of to try to get >> them back - like restarting xCode, opening different files etc. > > Did you try trashing Xcodes preferences? > > Sandor >> But alas, no GUI tools for me ! >> >> Any ideas on how to fix this would be most welcome. >> >> MacOS 10.14.3 / xCode 10.2 / swift project for macOS >> >> >> Peter >> ___ >> >> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) >> >> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. >> Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com >> >> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: >> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/admin.szatmari.net%40gmail.com >> >> This email sent to admin.szatmari@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: xCode troubles
Hi, yes, has been a pain the past weeks, needs to quit XCode 10 times a day (unless it doesn’t crash first) / Totte > 14 maj 2019 kl. 12:39 skrev Peter Hudson : > > Hi All > > xCode has just decided ( for the 20th time this week ) that I don’t deserve > any UI tools in Interface Builder - as in the panel on the right hand side of > the main window. I have tried everything I can think of to try to get them > back - like restarting xCode, opening different files etc. > But alas, no GUI tools for me ! > > Any ideas on how to fix this would be most welcome. > > MacOS 10.14.3 / xCode 10.2 / swift project for macOS > > > Peter > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/totte%40code66.se > > This email sent to to...@code66.se ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: xCode troubles
Peter, > On May 14, 2019, at 06:39, Peter Hudson wrote: > > Hi All > > xCode has just decided ( for the 20th time this week ) that I don’t deserve > any UI tools in Interface Builder - as in the panel on the right hand side of > the main window. I have tried everything I can think of to try to get them > back - like restarting xCode, opening different files etc. Did you try trashing Xcodes preferences? Sandor > But alas, no GUI tools for me ! > > Any ideas on how to fix this would be most welcome. > > MacOS 10.14.3 / xCode 10.2 / swift project for macOS > > > Peter > ___ > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/admin.szatmari.net%40gmail.com > > This email sent to admin.szatmari@gmail.com ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
xCode troubles
Hi All xCode has just decided ( for the 20th time this week ) that I don’t deserve any UI tools in Interface Builder - as in the panel on the right hand side of the main window. I have tried everything I can think of to try to get them back - like restarting xCode, opening different files etc. But alas, no GUI tools for me ! Any ideas on how to fix this would be most welcome. MacOS 10.14.3 / xCode 10.2 / swift project for macOS Peter ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
