Re: Cocoon Cobundle ? Please!

2002-11-23 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi 

Forrest http://xml.apache.org/forrest/ is based on Cocoon, and comes 
bundled with Jetty.

If you install Forrest, and type "forrest run", you effectively have 
Cocoon launched on port .

Try that, see if the concept is ok, give feedback on cocoon-dev, and 
maybe we will put it also in Cocoon.

Christian Kissner wrote:
Hi, this is a plea, from an experienced developer, to bundle working
versions of cocoon with servlet engines. Just Tomcat would be enough.

This is my story:
2 years ago I came across cocoon, liked the concept, and 
developed a cocoon-1.8 based application - see www.efonds24.de 

Every 3-5 months since then I start thinking along the similar
lines and try to install cocoon 2.x on Jboss, Tomcat or whatever and
notice IT DOES NOT WORK.
I go back to the web site, read the parts about installing and replacing
the XML parser, try that and find that IT STILL DOES NOT WORK
I then guess, the tomcat/jboss/whatever codebase may have moved on or
maybe the cocoon codebase moved on or my JDK ist out of date and maybe
the documentation on the web site has not yet caught on. 
So I go back, read the mailing lists and fetch the latest releases,
compile, fix and reinstall and find that ***NONE OF IT WORKS ***

Now I may be a dumb idiot or simply out of luck, but I always think:
HOW SAD... cocoon is great technology, but it would have much wider
distribution if they could ease deployment and 

		+--+
		|JUST BUNDLE WORKING VERSIONS TOGETHER.|
		+--+



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Re: Cocoon Cobundle ? Please!

2002-11-22 Thread Lajos Moczar 
You mean a patched cocoon-2.0.3.jar? Sure, I can do that. The only 
actual change was to 
org.apache.cocoon.components.ExtendedComponentSelector.java in order to 
enable sub-sitemap inheritance of component definitions when using the 
interpreted sitemap.

Lajos


Murray Cumming wrote:
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 21:26, Lajos Moczar wrote:


You can find my own integrated back of Apache, Tomcat and Cocoon at 
http://www.galatea.com/az.


You are distributing a patched cocoon. It would be nice if you put the
patch online too.




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Re: Cocoon Cobundle ? Please!

2002-11-22 Thread Murray Cumming 
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 21:26, Lajos Moczar wrote:
> You can find my own integrated back of Apache, Tomcat and Cocoon at 
> http://www.galatea.com/az.

You are distributing a patched cocoon. It would be nice if you put the
patch online too.

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Re: Cocoon Cobundle ? Please!

2002-11-22 Thread Gabriele Domenichini 
Please believe me when I say that: yes. Often happens that cocoon 
doesn't work the first time but normally it's a question of restarting 
all over on a new machine.
If you cannot use a new machine at least delete the cache directory
 $TOMCAT_HOME/work/Standalone/localhost/cocoon  **
and of course $TOMCAT_HOME/webapps/cocoon before restarting it with the 
new .war file in the webapps directory

Christian Kissner wrote:

Hi, this is a plea, from an experienced developer, to bundle working
versions of cocoon with servlet engines. Just Tomcat would be enough.

This is my story:
2 years ago I came across cocoon, liked the concept, and 
developed a cocoon-1.8 based application - see www.efonds24.de 

Every 3-5 months since then I start thinking along the similar
lines and try to install cocoon 2.x on Jboss, Tomcat or whatever and
notice IT DOES NOT WORK.
I go back to the web site, read the parts about installing and replacing
the XML parser, try that and find that IT STILL DOES NOT WORK
I then guess, the tomcat/jboss/whatever codebase may have moved on or
maybe the cocoon codebase moved on or my JDK ist out of date and maybe
the documentation on the web site has not yet caught on. 
So I go back, read the mailing lists and fetch the latest releases,
compile, fix and reinstall and find that ***NONE OF IT WORKS ***

 

Now I may be a dumb idiot or simply out of luck, but I always think:
HOW SAD... cocoon is great technology, but it would have much wider
distribution if they could ease deployment and 

		+--+
		|JUST BUNDLE WORKING VERSIONS TOGETHER.|
		+--+



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Re: Cocoon Cobundle ? Please!

2002-11-22 Thread Lajos Moczar 
You can find my own integrated back of Apache, Tomcat and Cocoon at 
http://www.galatea.com/az.

When 2.1 hits production, I'll have that version available as well.

Regards,

Lajos


Christian Kissner wrote:
Hi, this is a plea, from an experienced developer, to bundle working
versions of cocoon with servlet engines. Just Tomcat would be enough.

This is my story:
2 years ago I came across cocoon, liked the concept, and 
developed a cocoon-1.8 based application - see www.efonds24.de 

Every 3-5 months since then I start thinking along the similar
lines and try to install cocoon 2.x on Jboss, Tomcat or whatever and
notice IT DOES NOT WORK.
I go back to the web site, read the parts about installing and replacing
the XML parser, try that and find that IT STILL DOES NOT WORK
I then guess, the tomcat/jboss/whatever codebase may have moved on or
maybe the cocoon codebase moved on or my JDK ist out of date and maybe
the documentation on the web site has not yet caught on. 
So I go back, read the mailing lists and fetch the latest releases,
compile, fix and reinstall and find that ***NONE OF IT WORKS ***

Now I may be a dumb idiot or simply out of luck, but I always think:
HOW SAD... cocoon is great technology, but it would have much wider
distribution if they could ease deployment and 

		+--+
		|JUST BUNDLE WORKING VERSIONS TOGETHER.|
		+--+



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Re: Cocoon Cobundle ? Please!

2002-11-22 Thread Jeremy Aston 
Hi Guys,

My scribbling friend Lajos Moczar has his Az platform
which is along the lines you describe.  You can find
out more from http://www.galatea.com/az/home.  Hope
this goes a little way to helping.

Regards

Jeremy


 --- John Gianola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm
brand new to Cocoon (3 weeks I think) and I
> think this is a good 
> idea. Granted, I did get Tomcat and Cocoon runing
> just fine on my Redhat 
> box, bundling would be great. What if someone sold
> CD's of everything 
> bundled plus a few extra samples for a couple of
> bucks?
> 
> ~John Gianola
> 
> Christian Kissner wrote:
> 
> >Hi, this is a plea, from an experienced developer,
> to bundle working
> >versions of cocoon with servlet engines. Just
> Tomcat would be enough.
> >
> >This is my story:
> >2 years ago I came across cocoon, liked the
> concept, and 
> >developed a cocoon-1.8 based application - see
> www.efonds24.de 
> >
> >Every 3-5 months since then I start thinking along
> the similar
> >lines and try to install cocoon 2.x on Jboss,
> Tomcat or whatever and
> >notice IT DOES NOT WORK.
> >I go back to the web site, read the parts about
> installing and replacing
> >the XML parser, try that and find that IT STILL
> DOES NOT WORK
> >I then guess, the tomcat/jboss/whatever codebase
> may have moved on or
> >maybe the cocoon codebase moved on or my JDK ist
> out of date and maybe
> >the documentation on the web site has not yet
> caught on. 
> >So I go back, read the mailing lists and fetch the
> latest releases,
> >compile, fix and reinstall and find that ***NONE OF
> IT WORKS ***
> >
> >Now I may be a dumb idiot or simply out of luck,
> but I always think:
> >HOW SAD... cocoon is great technology, but it would
> have much wider
> >distribution if they could ease deployment and 
> >
> > +--+
> > |JUST BUNDLE WORKING VERSIONS TOGETHER.|
> > +--+
> >
> >
> >
> >thanks for listening.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Cocoon Cobundle ? Please!

2002-11-22 Thread John Gianola 
I'm brand new to Cocoon (3 weeks I think) and I think this is a good 
idea. Granted, I did get Tomcat and Cocoon runing just fine on my Redhat 
box, bundling would be great. What if someone sold CD's of everything 
bundled plus a few extra samples for a couple of bucks?

~John Gianola

Christian Kissner wrote:

Hi, this is a plea, from an experienced developer, to bundle working
versions of cocoon with servlet engines. Just Tomcat would be enough.

This is my story:
2 years ago I came across cocoon, liked the concept, and 
developed a cocoon-1.8 based application - see www.efonds24.de 

Every 3-5 months since then I start thinking along the similar
lines and try to install cocoon 2.x on Jboss, Tomcat or whatever and
notice IT DOES NOT WORK.
I go back to the web site, read the parts about installing and replacing
the XML parser, try that and find that IT STILL DOES NOT WORK
I then guess, the tomcat/jboss/whatever codebase may have moved on or
maybe the cocoon codebase moved on or my JDK ist out of date and maybe
the documentation on the web site has not yet caught on. 
So I go back, read the mailing lists and fetch the latest releases,
compile, fix and reinstall and find that ***NONE OF IT WORKS ***

Now I may be a dumb idiot or simply out of luck, but I always think:
HOW SAD... cocoon is great technology, but it would have much wider
distribution if they could ease deployment and 

		+--+
		|JUST BUNDLE WORKING VERSIONS TOGETHER.|
		+--+



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Cocoon Cobundle ? Please!

2002-11-22 Thread Christian Kissner 
Hi, this is a plea, from an experienced developer, to bundle working
versions of cocoon with servlet engines. Just Tomcat would be enough.

This is my story:
2 years ago I came across cocoon, liked the concept, and 
developed a cocoon-1.8 based application - see www.efonds24.de 

Every 3-5 months since then I start thinking along the similar
lines and try to install cocoon 2.x on Jboss, Tomcat or whatever and
notice IT DOES NOT WORK.
I go back to the web site, read the parts about installing and replacing
the XML parser, try that and find that IT STILL DOES NOT WORK
I then guess, the tomcat/jboss/whatever codebase may have moved on or
maybe the cocoon codebase moved on or my JDK ist out of date and maybe
the documentation on the web site has not yet caught on. 
So I go back, read the mailing lists and fetch the latest releases,
compile, fix and reinstall and find that ***NONE OF IT WORKS ***

Now I may be a dumb idiot or simply out of luck, but I always think:
HOW SAD... cocoon is great technology, but it would have much wider
distribution if they could ease deployment and 

+--+
|JUST BUNDLE WORKING VERSIONS TOGETHER.|
+--+



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