How to open 2 windows (again)?

2003-01-30 Thread Johannes . Becker
Hi,

I asked this before and I got an good answer.

 I want to open 2 windows on one event. The xsp (I mean the data)
 would be the same, but the output would be: first window html, second
 window pdf.

I was told that I couldn't handle this in the sitemap. I'd rather put an
open(thePdf) in
the onLoad-event of the html-page. Ok. Makes sense.

But in the beginning I'm passing parameters to the xsp to create the data
dynamically.
So this would mean I would have to again pass the parameters to the
html-page, which would pass
them again to the xsp page. The data there would now get created a second
time (and the pdf would be created).
Because its much data (reports with maybe up to 10.000 - 50.000 entries)
this is somehow a lousy solution.

Isn't there a simpler way to solve this problem?


Jonny





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Antwort: How to open 2 windows (again)?

2003-01-30 Thread manfred . weigel



Hi!

I think the big problem is not to write out two different outputs from one
request, but the real problem is to send these responses on one request.
It should be posible to write a pdf from the same request to disk (server),
and the html in the browser (the original response) requests this pdf
(already a file!) eg. with
an onload event in the body tag. That could make sence for so much data. As
far as i know, this solution is not supported by Cocoon yet,
but the implementation should not be that effort.

cheers
manfred





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Hi,

I asked this before and I got an good answer.

 I want to open 2 windows on one event. The xsp (I mean the data)
 would be the same, but the output would be: first window html, second
 window pdf.

I was told that I couldn't handle this in the sitemap. I'd rather put an
open(thePdf) in
the onLoad-event of the html-page. Ok. Makes sense.

But in the beginning I'm passing parameters to the xsp to create the data
dynamically.
So this would mean I would have to again pass the parameters to the
html-page, which would pass
them again to the xsp page. The data there would now get created a second
time (and the pdf would be created).
Because its much data (reports with maybe up to 10.000 - 50.000 entries)
this is somehow a lousy solution.

Isn't there a simpler way to solve this problem?


Jonny






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How to open 2 windows?

2003-01-28 Thread Johannes . Becker
Hi,

I want to open 2 windows on one event. The xml/xsp (I mean the data)
would be the same, but the output would be: first window html, second
window pdf.

e.g. my dummy sitemap:
...
!-- on submit generate *.html and *.pdf output --
map:match pattern=html-pdf
map:generate type=serverpages src=html-pdf.xsp/
!-- generate a window with html output
map:transform src=html.xsl/
map:serialize
 --
!-- generate another window with pdf output
map:transform src=pdf.xsl/
map:serialize type=fo2pdf/
--
/map:match

How can I manage this? Can I mange this from my sitemap?

Cheers
Jonny


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Re: How to open 2 windows?

2003-01-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tuesday 28 January 2003 17:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I want to open 2 windows on one event. The xml/xsp (I mean the data)
 would be the same, but the output would be: first window html, second
 window pdf.

 e.g. my dummy sitemap:
 ...
 !-- on submit generate *.html and *.pdf output --
 map:match pattern=html-pdf
 map:generate type=serverpages src=html-pdf.xsp/
 !-- generate a window with html output
 map:transform src=html.xsl/
 map:serialize
  --
 !-- generate another window with pdf output
 map:transform src=pdf.xsl/
 map:serialize type=fo2pdf/
 --
 /map:match

 How can I manage this? Can I mange this from my sitemap?

I am far from an expert, but it seems like you are asking for something 
impossible (there is only a single destination).

However, by applying your HTML knowledge, you can have the first html.xsl 
generate a OnLoad and automatic popup (different URL) that brings the PDF 
document in a separate window on the client with the second HTTP request.
Maybe not clear enough, understand?

Niclas

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Antwort: Re: How to open 2 windows?

2003-01-28 Thread manfred . weigel


Hi!

You are absolut right Niclas, ONE request = ONE response
so the first window must have some Javascript inside which is called by an
onload event in the body tag.
This script opens the second window with the pdf inside.

cheers
Manfred




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On Tuesday 28 January 2003 17:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I want to open 2 windows on one event. The xml/xsp (I mean the data)
 would be the same, but the output would be: first window html, second
 window pdf.

 e.g. my dummy sitemap:
 ...
 !-- on submit generate *.html and *.pdf output --
 map:match pattern=html-pdf
 map:generate type=serverpages src=html-pdf.xsp/
 !-- generate a window with html output
 map:transform src=html.xsl/
 map:serialize
  --
 !-- generate another window with pdf output
 map:transform src=pdf.xsl/
 map:serialize type=fo2pdf/
 --
 /map:match

 How can I manage this? Can I mange this from my sitemap?

I am far from an expert, but it seems like you are asking for something
impossible (there is only a single destination).

However, by applying your HTML knowledge, you can have the first html.xsl
generate a OnLoad and automatic popup (different URL) that brings the PDF
document in a separate window on the client with the second HTTP request.
Maybe not clear enough, understand?

Niclas

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RE: How to open 2 windows?

2003-01-28 Thread Michael Homeijer
Hi,

If the event you mention is clicking a hyperlink in a html page, maybe you
could use javascript in the the onClick event to open one window and open
the second window with the hyperlink.

Just a thought,

Michael

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Subject: How to open 2 windows?

Hi,

I want to open 2 windows on one event. The xml/xsp (I mean the data)
would be the same, but the output would be: first window html, second
window pdf.

e.g. my dummy sitemap:
...
!-- on submit generate *.html and *.pdf output --
map:match pattern=html-pdf
map:generate type=serverpages src=html-pdf.xsp/
!-- generate a window with html output
map:transform src=html.xsl/
map:serialize
 --
!-- generate another window with pdf output
map:transform src=pdf.xsl/
map:serialize type=fo2pdf/
--
/map:match

How can I manage this? Can I mange this from my sitemap?

Cheers
Jonny



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Re: How to open 2 windows?

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
Just a warning. There has been a study recently that quite well confirms that
using popups in a commercial web site is a good way to drive traffic AWAY
from that site. Personally, they annoy the shit out of me. If I really needed
to get my penis enlarged Id look it up on google.de. Getting offered it from
half the web sites on the internet could be bad for self confidence. =)

-- Robert

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:27 AM
Subject: How to open 2 windows?


 Hi,

 I want to open 2 windows on one event. The xml/xsp (I mean the data)
 would be the same, but the output would be: first window html, second
 window pdf.

 e.g. my dummy sitemap:
 ...
 !-- on submit generate *.html and *.pdf output --
 map:match pattern=html-pdf
 map:generate type=serverpages src=html-pdf.xsp/
 !-- generate a window with html output
 map:transform src=html.xsl/
 map:serialize
  --
 !-- generate another window with pdf output
 map:transform src=pdf.xsl/
 map:serialize type=fo2pdf/
 --
 /map:match

 How can I manage this? Can I mange this from my sitemap?

 Cheers
 Jonny
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Re: How to open 2 windows?

2003-01-28 Thread Bert Van Kets
I agree, but there are occasions that opening two windows is very valid.
You can't post a response to two browser windows at the same time.  The 
second window doesn't even exist yet.
You have to open the second window using javascript in the onLoad event of 
teh page containing the html.  In the window.open command add the url of 
the pdf and your's done.
Don't try to solve everything using the sitemap.  Regular web site building 
techniques still apply in Cocoon!

Bert


At 22:21 28/01/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Just a warning. There has been a study recently that quite well confirms that
using popups in a commercial web site is a good way to drive traffic AWAY
from that site. Personally, they annoy the shit out of me. If I really needed
to get my penis enlarged Id look it up on google.de. Getting offered it from
half the web sites on the internet could be bad for self confidence. =)

-- Robert

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:27 AM
Subject: How to open 2 windows?


 Hi,

 I want to open 2 windows on one event. The xml/xsp (I mean the data)
 would be the same, but the output would be: first window html, second
 window pdf.

 e.g. my dummy sitemap:
 ...
 !-- on submit generate *.html and *.pdf output --
 map:match pattern=html-pdf
 map:generate type=serverpages src=html-pdf.xsp/
 !-- generate a window with html output
 map:transform src=html.xsl/
 map:serialize
  --
 !-- generate another window with pdf output
 map:transform src=pdf.xsl/
 map:serialize type=fo2pdf/
 --
 /map:match

 How can I manage this? Can I mange this from my sitemap?

 Cheers
 Jonny
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Re: How to open 2 windows?

2003-01-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 05:21, Robert Simmons wrote:
 Just a warning. There has been a study recently that quite well confirms
 that using popups in a commercial web site is a good way to drive traffic
 AWAY from that site. Personally, they annoy the shit out of me. If I really
 needed to get my penis enlarged Id look it up on google.de. Getting offered
 it from half the web sites on the internet could be bad for self
 confidence. =)

I agree ( where do you can you get the enlargement, you said?? ;o) )

A lot of people disables pop-ups, or (like me) have the browser ask me if I 
want it. First one on a site, I consider ok. If commercial, then permenantly 
turned off for that site.

I can't turn it off all the time, since some sincere sites are using this 
technique, for other things than adverts.

Niclas

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Re: How to open 2 windows?

2003-01-28 Thread Robert Simmons
I had a great page today. The dumb shits put a JavaScript action on closing
the page that popped up a dialog saying if you want to stay at our page,
press ok. If you don't want to leave press cancel. The only way you could
leave that page was to kill the browser with the task manager. They may think
that is smart but I know one thing, Ill never buy a single product from them.
I don't remember the URL though so don't ask. =)

-- Robert


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Subject: Re: How to open 2 windows?


On Wednesday 29 January 2003 05:21, Robert Simmons wrote:
 Just a warning. There has been a study recently that quite well confirms
 that using popups in a commercial web site is a good way to drive traffic
 AWAY from that site. Personally, they annoy the shit out of me. If I really
 needed to get my penis enlarged Id look it up on google.de. Getting offered
 it from half the web sites on the internet could be bad for self
 confidence. =)

I agree ( where do you can you get the enlargement, you said?? ;o) )

A lot of people disables pop-ups, or (like me) have the browser ask me if I
want it. First one on a site, I consider ok. If commercial, then permenantly
turned off for that site.

I can't turn it off all the time, since some sincere sites are using this
technique, for other things than adverts.

Niclas

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AW: How to open 2 windows?

2003-01-28 Thread Kirchhoff, Lars
hi robert,

you are right that commercial popups are annoying people 
and maybe keep them away from the sites, which using them, 
BUT do you consider cocoon only for publish internet 
website. 

I see cocoon as well as an framework to create web
based user interfaces to backend applications. Therefore I 
would like to create a user centric interface, which is 
as most convinient for the user. Having more than one window
per application is nothing new, right and at some point 
very helpful and time saving especially in the network world
of the internet. 

regards
Lars

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 Von: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Januar 2003 05:21
 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Betreff: Re: How to open 2 windows?
 
 
 Just a warning. There has been a study recently that quite 
 well confirms that
 using popups in a commercial web site is a good way to drive 
 traffic AWAY
 from that site. Personally, they annoy the shit out of me. If 
 I really needed
 to get my penis enlarged Id look it up on google.de. Getting 
 offered it from
 half the web sites on the internet could be bad for self 
 confidence. =)
 
 -- Robert
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:27 AM
 Subject: How to open 2 windows?
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I want to open 2 windows on one event. The xml/xsp (I 
 mean the data)
  would be the same, but the output would be: first window 
 html, second
  window pdf.
 
  e.g. my dummy sitemap:
  ...
  !-- on submit generate *.html and *.pdf output --
  map:match pattern=html-pdf
  map:generate type=serverpages src=html-pdf.xsp/
  !-- generate a window with html output
  map:transform src=html.xsl/
  map:serialize
   --
  !-- generate another window with pdf output
  map:transform src=pdf.xsl/
  map:serialize type=fo2pdf/
  --
  /map:match
 
  How can I manage this? Can I mange this from my sitemap?
 
  Cheers
  Jonny
  
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Re: How to open 2 windows?

2003-01-28 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 29 January 2003 10:50, Robert Simmons wrote:
 I had a great page today. The dumb shits put a JavaScript action on closing
 the page that popped up a dialog saying if you want to stay at our page,
 press ok. If you don't want to leave press cancel. The only way you could
 leave that page was to kill the browser with the task manager. They may
 think that is smart but I know one thing, Ill never buy a single product
 from them. I don't remember the URL though so don't ask. =)

I assume you are using IE. Not sure what you can customize with the JavaScript 
settings in it. If not much, I suggest you get a better browser. Opera or a 
Linux based one, like Konqueror (comes with KDE), gives the user the all the 
control it takes (control over window.open).

Niclas


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 Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:31 AM
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 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 05:21, Robert Simmons wrote:
  Just a warning. There has been a study recently that quite well confirms
  that using popups in a commercial web site is a good way to drive traffic
  AWAY from that site. Personally, they annoy the shit out of me. If I
  really needed to get my penis enlarged Id look it up on google.de.
  Getting offered it from half the web sites on the internet could be bad
  for self confidence. =)

 I agree ( where do you can you get the enlargement, you said?? ;o) )

 A lot of people disables pop-ups, or (like me) have the browser ask me if I
 want it. First one on a site, I consider ok. If commercial, then
 permenantly turned off for that site.

 I can't turn it off all the time, since some sincere sites are using this
 technique, for other things than adverts.

 Niclas

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