RE: Newbies: New Tutorial about Request Parameters
Title: Message *** REPLY SEPARATOR ***On 26.02.2002 at 15:35 Stephen Ng wrote: Andreas, This is great stuff!!! Thank you! Thanks! I'm currently writing alittle article about using DocBook, because that was what I started with and it took me quite a lot of time to get it work. Furthermore, a FAQ about installation problems, error messages etc. was planned, but I'm afraid this topictoo extensive andchanges too fast. Maybe I'll start a FAQwith general questions from the mailing list. Greetings, Andreas Stephen Ng Lumigent -Original Message-From: Andreas Hartmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:05 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Newbies: New Tutorial about Request Parameters Hi Cocoon users, Icreated a little tutorial on using request parameters. You can find it at http://www.cocooncenter.de/cc/documents/resources/request-params/index.html. If anyonewants topublishother uses forrequest parameters - or anything else - just contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. Greetings, Andreas
Re: Newbies: New Tutorial about Request Parameters
Being a newbie, I would say the biggest single positive change you could make would be to put a link to an easily searchable mail list archive on the cocoon install page and again as the main link in the mailing lists page. The one that is featured now is a text archive. Vadim Gritsenko pointed me to this much better one. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-users If cocoon were actually stable, a FAQ would be good, but might well be a waste of time at this point. I would continue the efforts to get a bulletproof installation and use all of the irritating newbie questions on the list to help me figure out where people go wrong the most frequently. Fix the instructions to remove those problems. Now that tomcat seems to have stabilised in the libraries it includes (minimal), you won't have the rug pulled out from under you so frequently when they change. The books people keep mentioning are also probably a good idea. Books and much more developed working examples are keeping the struts project moving forward at a nice pace. I sense that cocoon is now about where struts was 6 months to a year ago. All in all, I would say that cocoon has advanced sufficiently since the 1.0 days that I am considering using it as a web platform for the second half of a database course. Bud Andreas Hartmann wrote: *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 26.02.2002 at 15:35 Stephen Ng wrote: Andreas, This is great stuff!!! Thank you! Thanks! I'm currently writing a little article about using DocBook, because that was what I started with and it took me quite a lot of time to get it work. Furthermore, a FAQ about installation problems, error messages etc. was planned, but I'm afraid this topic too extensive and changes too fast. Maybe I'll start a FAQ with general questions from the mailing list. Greetings, Andreas Stephen Ng Lumigent -Original Message- *From:* Andreas Hartmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2002 1:05 PM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Newbies: New Tutorial about Request Parameters Hi Cocoon users, I created a little tutorial on using request parameters. You can find it at http://www.cocooncenter.de/cc/documents/resources/request-params/index.html . If anyone wants to publish other uses for request parameters - or anything else - just contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .. Greetings, Andreas - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbies: New Tutorial about Request Parameters
Bud, *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 27.02.2002 at 12:27 Bud Gibson wrote: Being a newbie, I would say the biggest single positive change you could make would be to put a link to an easily searchable mail list archive on the cocoon install page and again as the main link in the mailing lists page. The one that is featured now is a text archive. Vadim Gritsenko pointed me to this much better one. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-users I don't like this one because I don't like white text on dark background at all. Nevertheless, it's a good archive. BTW - I'm a little bit confused, which install page do you mean? Are you talking about cocooncenter at all? And what about the archive at Real Time? It's searchable too. If cocoon were actually stable, a FAQ would be good, but might well be a waste of time at this point. Yeah, I want to spend as much time as possible on long-lasting articles. I would continue the efforts to get a bulletproof installation and use all of the irritating newbie questions on the list to help me figure out where people go wrong the most frequently. Fix the instructions to remove those problems. Now that tomcat seems to have stabilised in the libraries it includes (minimal), you won't have the rug pulled out from under you so frequently when they change. That is a good idea, but if I started to provide installation instructions, I have to answer installation questions to stay credible. And, unfortunately, I don't have the time to do that ... what about you? :) Greetings, Andreas The books people keep mentioning are also probably a good idea. Books and much more developed working examples are keeping the struts project moving forward at a nice pace. I sense that cocoon is now about where struts was 6 months to a year ago. All in all, I would say that cocoon has advanced sufficiently since the 1.0 days that I am considering using it as a web platform for the second half of a database course. Bud Andreas Hartmann wrote: *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 26.02.2002 at 15:35 Stephen Ng wrote: Andreas, This is great stuff!!! Thank you! Thanks! I'm currently writing a little article about using DocBook, because that was what I started with and it took me quite a lot of time to get it work. Furthermore, a FAQ about installation problems, error messages etc. was planned, but I'm afraid this topic too extensive and changes too fast. Maybe I'll start a FAQ with general questions from the mailing list. Greetings, Andreas Stephen Ng Lumigent -Original Message- *From:* Andreas Hartmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2002 1:05 PM *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Newbies: New Tutorial about Request Parameters Hi Cocoon users, I created a little tutorial on using request parameters. You can find it at http://www.cocooncenter.de/cc/documents/resources/request-params/index.html . If anyone wants to publish other uses for request parameters - or anything else - just contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .. Greetings, Andreas - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbies: New Tutorial about Request Parameters
Andreas: Andreas Hartmann wrote: Bud, *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 27.02.2002 at 12:27 Bud Gibson wrote: Being a newbie, I would say the biggest single positive change you could make would be to put a link to an easily searchable mail list archive on the cocoon install page and again as the main link in the mailing lists page. The one that is featured now is a text archive. Vadim Gritsenko pointed me to this much better one. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-users I don't like this one because I don't like white text on dark background at all. Nevertheless, it's a good archive. BTW - I'm a little bit confused, which install page do you mean? Are you talking about cocooncenter at all? And what about the archive at Real Time? It's searchable too. I was referring to the install page at the cocoon official site. Frankly, that page is a little misleading for the most recent tomcat release. I've looked at cocoon center and really liked the way it was coming. My point is not so much to promote one archive site as to get searchable ones front and center on the site where people who are novices are most likely to go (the official site). If cocoon were actually stable, a FAQ would be good, but might well be a waste of time at this point. Yeah, I want to spend as much time as possible on long-lasting articles. I would continue the efforts to get a bulletproof installation and use all of the irritating newbie questions on the list to help me figure out where people go wrong the most frequently. Fix the instructions to remove those problems. Now that tomcat seems to have stabilised in the libraries it includes (minimal), you won't have the rug pulled out from under you so frequently when they change. That is a good idea, but if I started to provide installation instructions, I have to answer installation questions to stay credible. And, unfortunately, I don't have the time to do that ... what about you? :) No time for answering questions but quite possibly time for updating instructions. If you can get those right, the questions should go way down. Greetings, Andreas - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Newbies: New Tutorial about Request Parameters
From: Andreas Hartmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] snip/ Being a newbie, I would say the biggest single positive change you could make would be to put a link to an easily searchable mail list archive on the cocoon install page and again as the main link in the mailing lists page. The one that is featured now is a text archive. Vadim Gritsenko pointed me to this much better one. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-users I don't like this one because I don't like white text on dark background at all. Nevertheless, it's a good archive. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?q=configure :) Vadim - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faqs.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Newbies: New Tutorial about Request Parameters
Title: Message Andreas, This is great stuff!!! Thank you! Stephen Ng Lumigent -Original Message-From: Andreas Hartmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:05 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Newbies: New Tutorial about Request Parameters Hi Cocoon users, Icreated a little tutorial on using request parameters. You can find it at http://www.cocooncenter.de/cc/documents/resources/request-params/index.html. If anyonewants topublishother uses forrequest parameters - or anything else - just contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Greetings, Andreas
Newbies: New Tutorial about Request Parameters
Hi Cocoon users, Icreated a little tutorial on using request parameters. You can find it at http://www.cocooncenter.de/cc/documents/resources/request-params/index.html. If anyonewants topublishother uses forrequest parameters - or anything else - just contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Greetings, Andreas
