Re: PDF Double Dipping -- FOP bug?

2002-09-17 Thread J.Pietschmann

John Austin wrote:
 I have seen the same behaviour in 2.0.3. Pretty annoying when the most
 resource-intensive part of our system has this flaw.

Just nitpicking: it's primarily a flaw in the client (IEx),
requesting the same URL twice or even thrice, *not* a flaw
in Cocoon, FOP, Tomcat or whatever. If the XML is processed
multiple times too, check whether everything is cacheable.

J.Pietschmann


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Re: PDF Double Dipping -- FOP bug?

2002-09-16 Thread John Austin

On Thursday 12 September 2002 08:47 pm, you wrote:

I have seen the same behaviour in 2.0.3. Pretty annoying when the most
resource-intensive part of our system has this flaw.

 I know the subject line is pretty stupid, but hell, it's been a long
 day.

 I have started to use Cocoon to generate HTML and PDF output from a
 database.  It works great but I noticed that whenever I generate a PDF
 file the same query always get executed twice, while the equivalent HTML
 generation uses only one request.  This is especially noticeable as one
 of my queries take a minute long.  Cocoon also seem to reprocess the XML
 whenever I ask for the PDF transformation - this is evident from the
 double spike in the processing power usage (I am running Windows 2000
 and you can see the two hills prominently in the Task Manager)

 I am wondering if I am doing anything wrong, but I noticed that it seems
 to be doing the same thing even to the hello.pdf example on a fresh,
 plain installation of Tomcat/Cocoon.

 This leads me to wonder: is this a bug in FOP?  Has anyone seen/solve
 this?

 Thanks in advance!

 Paul

 p.s. Tomcat 4.0.4, Cocoon 2.0.3, Windows 2000  Windows XP, JDK1.4 
 1.3.1

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RE: PDF Double Dipping -- FOP bug?

2002-09-13 Thread Matthew Langham



Hi 
Paul,

I 
think this is a known bug when using the PDF viewer in Microsoft 
IE.

Matthew

 

  -Original Message-From: Paul Lee 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 
  2:47 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: PDF 
  "Double Dipping" -- FOP bug?
  
  I know the subject line is pretty 
  stupid, but hell, its been a long day
  
  I have started to use Cocoon to 
  generate HTML and PDF output from a database. It works great but I noticed that 
  whenever I generate a PDF file the same query always get executed twice, while 
  the equivalent HTML generation uses only one request. This is especially noticeable as one 
  of my queries take a minute long. 
  Cocoon also seem to reprocess the XML whenever I ask for the PDF 
  transformation  this is evident from the double spike in the processing 
  power usage (I am running Windows 2000 and you can see the two hills 
  prominently in the Task Manager)
  
  I am wondering if I am doing 
  anything wrong, but I noticed that it seems to be doing the same thing even to 
  the hello.pdf example on a fresh, plain installation 
  of Tomcat/Cocoon.
  
  This leads me to wonder: is this a 
  bug in FOP? Has anyone seen/solve 
  this?
  
  Thanks in 
  advance!
  
  Paul
  
  p.s. Tomcat 4.0.4, Cocoon 2.0.3, 
  Windows 2000  Windows XP, JDK1.4  
  1.3.1


Re: PDF Double Dipping -- FOP bug?

2002-09-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz

On Friday 13 September 2002 02:47, Paul Lee wrote:
. . .I noticed that whenever I generate a PDF
 file the same query always get executed twice
. . .

Most probably your client is Internet Explorer?

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-userm=102836194606677w=2 
contains references to info about this IE bug, which causes it to make two or 
sometimes even more HTTP requests for non-HTML content.

-- 
 Bertrand Delacrétaz (codeconsult.ch, jfor.org)

 buzzwords: XML, java, XSLT, cocoon, mentoring/teaching/coding.
 disclaimer: eternity is very long. mostly towards the end. get ready.






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RE: PDF Double Dipping -- FOP bug?

2002-09-13 Thread caleb racey








Known bug in acrobat reader I think



http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q293792



I seem to remember (though may be totally
wrong) that the first request is trying to find the content length, and the
second request tries to get the content. There was something in the cocoon todos a while back about it.dont know
what happened though.





-Original Message-
From: Paul Lee
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 13 September 2002 01:47
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PDF Double
Dipping -- FOP bug?



I know the subject line is
pretty stupid, but hell, its been a long day



I have started to use Cocoon
to generate HTML and PDF output from a database. It works great but I noticed that
whenever I generate a PDF file the same query always get executed twice, while
the equivalent HTML generation uses only one request. This is especially noticeable as one of
my queries take a minute long.
Cocoon also seem to reprocess the XML whenever I ask for the PDF
transformation  this is evident from the double spike in
the processing power usage (I am running Windows 2000 and you can see the two
hills prominently in the Task Manager)



I am wondering if I am doing
anything wrong, but I noticed that it seems to be doing the same thing even to
the hello.pdf example on a fresh, plain installation of Tomcat/Cocoon.



This leads me to wonder: is
this a bug in FOP? Has anyone
seen/solve this?



Thanks in advance!



Paul



p.s. Tomcat 4.0.4, Cocoon
2.0.3, Windows 2000  Windows XP, JDK1.4  1.3.1










Re: PDF Double Dipping -- FOP bug?

2002-09-13 Thread Alex McLintock


whenever I generate a PDF file the same query always get executed twice,


This is in my FAQ. http://www.owal.co.uk/cgi-bin/fopfaq.cgi

I know I haven't updated it in absolutely ages, but it is a bit 
disheartening that people aren't looking at it before posting to the list.


Alex


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RE: PDF Double Dipping -- FOP bug?

2002-09-13 Thread Paul Lee

Hi everyone thanks for the info!  Yes I am using IE 6 (a mandate,
unfortunately) and I guess I'll have to write the file out to disk
first.

And Alex, sorry if I gave you that disheartening feeling, but actually I
did look for the problem in your FAQ: it just didn't occur to me that
the browser was the culprit and I skipped the title How do I get my web
based FOP working with Internet Explorer? promptly.  Rather I was
looking for keywords like Double Dipping ;)

Thanks again,

Paul

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Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 5:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PDF Double Dipping -- FOP bug?


whenever I generate a PDF file the same query always get executed
twice,


This is in my FAQ. http://www.owal.co.uk/cgi-bin/fopfaq.cgi

I know I haven't updated it in absolutely ages, but it is a bit 
disheartening that people aren't looking at it before posting to the
list.


Alex


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PDF Double Dipping -- FOP bug?

2002-09-12 Thread Paul Lee








I know the subject line is pretty stupid, but hell, its
been a long day



I have started to use Cocoon to generate HTML and PDF output
from a database. It works great but
I noticed that whenever I generate a PDF file the same query always get
executed twice, while the equivalent HTML generation uses only one
request. This is especially noticeable
as one of my queries take a minute long.
Cocoon also seem to reprocess the XML whenever I ask for the PDF
transformation  this is evident from the double spike in
the processing power usage (I am running Windows 2000 and you can see the two hills
prominently in the Task Manager)



I am wondering if I am doing anything wrong, but I noticed
that it seems to be doing the same thing even to the hello.pdf
example on a fresh, plain installation of Tomcat/Cocoon.



This leads me to wonder: is this a bug in FOP? Has anyone seen/solve this?



Thanks in advance!



Paul



p.s. Tomcat 4.0.4, Cocoon 2.0.3, Windows 2000  Windows
XP, JDK1.4  1.3.1