RE: Memory leaks(?)

2002-04-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko

 From: Rogier Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 Hi all, thanks for the quick reply..
 
   We've been running cocoon for some time now, and we really like
it,
   but we
   keep having problems with memory usage.
   The problem is that with each page, looking at the Windows Task
   Manager,
   memory use increases by about 25M and although in the
   processes window
   java.exe will reduce memory now and again, system memory use stays
   high.
 
  Memory leak occurs when memory is allocated from the heap and
never
  returned. Situation you describe is different and (except may be
  increase in 25M) normal.
 
 OK, maybe I wasn't too clear on this;) I know this is probably too
general OS
 and JVM to ask, but my real question is if java.exe shows 20Mb in use,
no
 other applications are running and my system shows 600Mb in use and
slows down
 to a crawl, where did all the memory go? Is the size of java.exe the
real size
 of the JVM?

Except mem usage column, Windoze task manager features VM size
column.


 Also, I do experience OutOfMemporyExceptions ...

In the set components I use there is no memory leaks. You should provide
more information on what do you use, what your sitemap looks like, what
is the size of XML docs.

I assume that you have OutOfMemoryErrors when testing with just one
concurrent user.

PS Consider using memory debugging tools

Vadim


  Unless you are experiencing OutOfMemporyExceptions I would
  consider that
  system behaves normally.
 
  The only thing you may want to investigate is 25Mb per request - but
  this is observed only in your setup, so you should pick a tool and
do
  memory debug.
 
  Vadim
 
   I played around with the jvm -Xmx option, and with cocoon.xconf
   heapsize and
   cached objects, but that didn't help. I was wondering whether
anyone
   had the
   same problems with cocoon, and I am of course very interested in
   solutions,
   tweaks, or configuration options that I may have overlooked.
  
   Regards,
  
   Rogier Peters
  
  
   -
   Content Management Department
   Hippo Webworks
   Grasweg 35
   1031 HW Amsterdam
   The Netherlands
   Tel  +31 (0)20 6345173
   Fax +31 (0)20 6345179
   Rogier(at)hippo(dot)nl / www.hippo.nl


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RE: Memory leaks(?)

2002-04-26 Thread Rogier Peters

  would this be a case for cactus?

http://jakarta.apache.org/cactus :) 

 What is this? I use OptimizeIt.

Downloading it now

 
 Vadim
 
 
  Rogier
 
 
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Re: Memory leaks(?)

2002-04-26 Thread KOZLOV Roman

Hello,

I have the same problem for Tomcat 4.0.1 +  Cocoon 2.0.1 + Xindice 1.0rc2 on
NT for one client. To avoid it I have to set CATALINA_OPTS to ' -Xms64M
-Xmx256M '. For the moment it works without problems.

Roman

Vadim Gritsenko wrote:

  From: Rogier Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
  Hi all, thanks for the quick reply..
  
We've been running cocoon for some time now, and we really like
 it,
but we
keep having problems with memory usage.
The problem is that with each page, looking at the Windows Task
Manager,
memory use increases by about 25M and although in the
processes window
java.exe will reduce memory now and again, system memory use stays
high.
  
   Memory leak occurs when memory is allocated from the heap and
 never
   returned. Situation you describe is different and (except may be
   increase in 25M) normal.
 
  OK, maybe I wasn't too clear on this;) I know this is probably too
 general OS
  and JVM to ask, but my real question is if java.exe shows 20Mb in use,
 no
  other applications are running and my system shows 600Mb in use and
 slows down
  to a crawl, where did all the memory go? Is the size of java.exe the
 real size
  of the JVM?

 Except mem usage column, Windoze task manager features VM size
 column.

  Also, I do experience OutOfMemporyExceptions ...

 In the set components I use there is no memory leaks. You should provide
 more information on what do you use, what your sitemap looks like, what
 is the size of XML docs.

 I assume that you have OutOfMemoryErrors when testing with just one
 concurrent user.

 PS Consider using memory debugging tools

 Vadim

   Unless you are experiencing OutOfMemporyExceptions I would
   consider that
   system behaves normally.
  
   The only thing you may want to investigate is 25Mb per request - but
   this is observed only in your setup, so you should pick a tool and
 do
   memory debug.
  
   Vadim
  
I played around with the jvm -Xmx option, and with cocoon.xconf
heapsize and
cached objects, but that didn't help. I was wondering whether
 anyone
had the
same problems with cocoon, and I am of course very interested in
solutions,
tweaks, or configuration options that I may have overlooked.
   
Regards,
   
Rogier Peters
   
   
-
Content Management Department
Hippo Webworks
Grasweg 35
1031 HW Amsterdam
The Netherlands
Tel  +31 (0)20 6345173
Fax +31 (0)20 6345179
Rogier(at)hippo(dot)nl / www.hippo.nl

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Re: Memory leaks(?)

2002-04-26 Thread Diana Shannon

Roman:

 I have the same problem for Tomcat 4.0.1 +  Cocoon 2.0.1 + Xindice 
 1.0rc2 on
 NT for one client. To avoid it I have to set CATALINA_OPTS to ' -Xms64M
 -Xmx256M '. For the moment it works without problems.

Do you have *any* sense how much your increased RAM requirements are due 
to your use of Xindice?

Thanks.

Diana


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Re: Memory leaks(?)

2002-04-26 Thread KOZLOV Roman

Diana,

For the moment I'm not sure, but it seems that the problem is due to a big
amount of data processed in a pipeline. It's because Xindice supports only
ASCII for xpath queries and I have to filter some big amount of data got from
a generator (file generator with dbxml protocol) by means of XSL
transformers.

Roman

Diana Shannon wrote:

 Roman:

  I have the same problem for Tomcat 4.0.1 +  Cocoon 2.0.1 + Xindice
  1.0rc2 on
  NT for one client. To avoid it I have to set CATALINA_OPTS to ' -Xms64M
  -Xmx256M '. For the moment it works without problems.

 Do you have *any* sense how much your increased RAM requirements are due
 to your use of Xindice?

 Thanks.

 Diana

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Re: Memory leaks(?)

2002-04-25 Thread Lajos Moczar

With 1Gb of memory, I suggest starting with something like this and 
tuning from there:

-Xms200m -Xmx600m

store-janitor class=org.apache.cocoon.components.store.StoreJanitorImpl
  logger=core.store-janitor
  parameter name=freememory value=500/
  parameter name=heapsize value=5/
  parameter name=cleanupthreadinterval value=10/
  parameter name=threadpriority value=5/
  parameter name=percent_to_free value=10/
   /store-janitor


Regards,


Lajos
galatea.com


Rogier Peters wrote:

 Hi,
 
 We've been running cocoon for some time now, and we really like it, but we keep 
having problems with memory usage. 
 We're running on a dual pII-700 with 1Gb memory and windows 2000 server. I just 
upgraded from jdk1.3.1_01 to 1.3.1_03, using the hotspot jvm, and from cocoon 2.0.1 
to 2.0.2 but is doesn't seem to solve the problems.
 The site we're developing is largish, about 1000 pages, and probably very (too?) 
transformation intensive. A typical page transforms the aggregate of about 5 
elements, which each come from pipelines that do a couple of transform on data that 
is retrieved from an xml database with a custom Source.
 
 The problem is that with each page, looking at the Windows Task Manager, memory use 
increases by about 25M and although in the processes window java.exe will reduce 
memory now and again, system memory use stays high. 
 
 I played around with the jvm -Xmx option, and with cocoon.xconf heapsize and cached 
objects, but that didn't help. I was wondering whether anyone had the same problems 
with cocoon, and I am of course very interested in solutions, tweaks, or 
configuration options that I may have overlooked.
 
 Regards,
 
 Rogier Peters
 
 
 -
 Content Management Department
 Hippo Webworks
 Grasweg 35
 1031 HW Amsterdam
 The Netherlands
 Tel  +31 (0)20 6345173 
 Fax +31 (0)20 6345179
 Rogier(at)hippo(dot)nl / www.hippo.nl 
 
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RE: Memory leaks(?)

2002-04-25 Thread Vadim Gritsenko

 From: Rogier Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 Hi,

Hi,

 We've been running cocoon for some time now, and we really like it,
but we
 keep having problems with memory usage.
 We're running on a dual pII-700 with 1Gb memory and windows 2000
server. I
 just upgraded from jdk1.3.1_01 to 1.3.1_03, using the hotspot jvm, and
from
 cocoon 2.0.1 to 2.0.2 but is doesn't seem to solve the problems.
 The site we're developing is largish, about 1000 pages, and probably
very
 (too?) transformation intensive. A typical page transforms the
aggregate of
 about 5 elements, which each come from pipelines that do a couple of
transform
 on data that is retrieved from an xml database with a custom Source.
 
 The problem is that with each page, looking at the Windows Task
Manager,
 memory use increases by about 25M and although in the processes window
 java.exe will reduce memory now and again, system memory use stays
high.

Memory leak occurs when memory is allocated from the heap and never
returned. Situation you describe is different and (except may be
increase in 25M) normal.

Unless you are experiencing OutOfMemporyExceptions I would consider that
system behaves normally.

The only thing you may want to investigate is 25Mb per request - but
this is observed only in your setup, so you should pick a tool and do
memory debug.

Vadim
 
 I played around with the jvm -Xmx option, and with cocoon.xconf
heapsize and
 cached objects, but that didn't help. I was wondering whether anyone
had the
 same problems with cocoon, and I am of course very interested in
solutions,
 tweaks, or configuration options that I may have overlooked.
 
 Regards,
 
 Rogier Peters
 
 
 -
 Content Management Department
 Hippo Webworks
 Grasweg 35
 1031 HW Amsterdam
 The Netherlands
 Tel  +31 (0)20 6345173
 Fax +31 (0)20 6345179
 Rogier(at)hippo(dot)nl / www.hippo.nl


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