Re: Redirect/Rewrite Module
On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, Michael Wechner wrote: Hi I have a situation where I would like to do a lot of URI-redirects/rewrites. I know I can do this via the sitemap, but other people would be doing this. So for the reason of Separation of Concern I would like to separate this from the actual sitemap. My question is what are the possibilties to do something like that? -One way would probably be to have a separate sitemap dedicated to redirects, which is mounted by the actual sitemap. -Or to have the redirects in a separate file, which is pulled in by the actual sitemap as an external entity -Or to have an action/component, where every request is sent through and is acting as an redirect/rewrite module (and maybe calling Cocoon again!!) Any thoughts on this? What about redesigning your URI space? You know, I'm not a friend of redirects as they where made to keep old URIs still working if you had to restructure your site. It seems to me that people think redirection is a tool/pattern for web development. Giacomo - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redirect/Rewrite Module
Giacomo Pati wrote: On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, Michael Wechner wrote: Hi I have a situation where I would like to do a lot of URI-redirects/rewrites. I know I can do this via the sitemap, but other people would be doing this. So for the reason of Separation of Concern I would like to separate this from the actual sitemap. My question is what are the possibilties to do something like that? -One way would probably be to have a separate sitemap dedicated to redirects, which is mounted by the actual sitemap. -Or to have the redirects in a separate file, which is pulled in by the actual sitemap as an external entity -Or to have an action/component, where every request is sent through and is acting as an redirect/rewrite module (and maybe calling Cocoon again!!) Any thoughts on this? What about redesigning your URI space? You know, I'm not a friend of redirects as they where made to keep old URIs still working if you had to restructure your site. It seems to me that people think redirection is a tool/pattern for web development. I agree with you, but the problem of old URIs will probably exist for another year or so:-) I think there are at least two solutions: 1) You can propagate the modifications of URIs through the net using a P2P approach or something similar. This would not only be good for old URIs, but also for URIs where content is changing all the time, such as for instance RSS. (For instance Slashdot has the policy that you are not allowed to request their RSS more often than every 30 minutes, else your IP will be blocked.) 2) Each URI has an owner. When the URI is old (expired), but is still being requested, then the server should tell the owner about it Both solutions could be part of a Content Management System/Framework. But there is also another misuse of redirects: Companies (for instance newspapers) sometimes want to announce a new product on the web, but the URI is too long for people remembering when reading the adds, but actually it would be appropriate context-wise. So the marketing department thinks of an abbreviated URI. All the best Michael Giacomo - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Redirect/Rewrite Module
I have a situation where I would like to do a lot of URI-redirects/rewrites. I know I can do this via the sitemap, but other people would be doing this. So for the reason of Separation of Concern I would like to separate this from the actual sitemap. My question is what are the possibilties to do something like that? -One way would probably be to have a separate sitemap dedicated to redirects, which is mounted by the actual sitemap. Exactly. I think this is the more robust system. URL patterns will make the redirection via map:redirect, except for special cases where you would need XSP ou may be actions. I think it is the most flexible way to do the trick. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redirect/Rewrite Module
ROSSEL Olivier wrote: I have a situation where I would like to do a lot of URI-redirects/rewrites. I know I can do this via the sitemap, but other people would be doing this. So for the reason of Separation of Concern I would like to separate this from the actual sitemap. My question is what are the possibilties to do something like that? -One way would probably be to have a separate sitemap dedicated to redirects, which is mounted by the actual sitemap. Exactly. I think this is the more robust system. URL patterns will make the redirection via map:redirect, except for special cases where you would need XSP ou may be actions. I think it is the most flexible way to do the trick. Sounds good to me as well (KISS) But what about Apache-Struts? Any ideas? Thanks Michael - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
