Re: Website documention problem with page widths

2002-07-04 Thread Steven Noels

Dean McGowan wrote:

 I would like to offer the services of kangax to handle documentation
 publishing, I am sure we can solve many of the problems you are currently
 experiencing.
 
 Kangax is a simple publishing tool which leverages cocoon technology.
 
 Please contact Dean McGowan to discuss, this would be a free service to the
 community, however editors and contributors are still necessary.
 
 If you are using a win 32 operating system with ie6.0 installed please
 download and trial Kangax from
 
 http://www.kangax.com/client/kangax/downloads/setup.exe

For some reason or another, the download of the .msi didn't work out 
with the setup.exe provided, so I downloaded the .msi file directly from 
  http://kangax.dyanet.com/client/kangax/downloads/kangax.msi

Executing this Microsoft Installation package, it goes off to search my 
*entire* harddisk for 'installed applications', apparently looking for 
the MS SOAP toolkit? That's 30 Gigs of slow laptop harddisk space being 
scanned ATM. I'll report back when it's done :-|

/Steven

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Outerthought - Open Source, Java  XML Competence Support Center
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Re: Website documention problem with page widths

2002-07-04 Thread Steven Noels

Steven Noels wrote:

 If you are using a win 32 operating system with ie6.0 installed please
 download and trial Kangax from

 http://www.kangax.com/client/kangax/downloads/setup.exe
 
 
 For some reason or another, the download of the .msi didn't work out 
 with the setup.exe provided, so I downloaded the .msi file directly from 
  http://kangax.dyanet.com/client/kangax/downloads/kangax.msi
 
 Executing this Microsoft Installation package, it goes off to search my 
 *entire* harddisk for 'installed applications', apparently looking for 
 the MS SOAP toolkit? That's 30 Gigs of slow laptop harddisk space being 
 scanned ATM. I'll report back when it's done :-|
 
 /Steven
 

OK, after half an hour of harddisk scanning installation finally 
succeeded (I left the 'CD-Key' entry blank since I didn't know what to 
fill in there) and I ended up with some 'Kangax' icon in my Start menu. 
Starting Kangax, I'm presented with some kind of login screen. The 
application itself seems to be build as a MS IE-only HTA app - not 
exactly a problem for me, but there's plenty of Linux  Mac OSX users in 
the Cocoon community.

A screenshot is attached for the curious amongst you.

Since I don't know what credentials to fill out in the login screen, 
that basically concludes my evaluation of Kangax :-(

Sorry Dean, while your potential donation seems interesting (at least 
I'm curious to find out what it's all about), you'll have to do some 
extra packaging before I'll be convinced of its usefulness.

HTH,

/Steven

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Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/
Outerthought - Open Source, Java  XML Competence Support Center
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Website documention problem with page widths

2002-07-03 Thread Scott Bussinger

As a newbie to the Cocoon world, I've been struggling to get up to speed. I
can certainly sympathize with some of the comments about Cocoon's
documentation issues as I'm struggling with them myself right now.

I do have one suggestion for whoever is responsible for maintaining the
xml.apache.org/cocoon websites:

Many of the pages have severe issues with page widths. For example, if you
go to http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/developing/sunspot.html, you'll find the
the pages are much wider than the browser screen width (same problem in both
IE and Netscape). It's _very_ hard to read these pages and you can't really
print them at all (half the text is missing off of the side of the page).
There are many of these pages scattered throughout the site.

This is sounds like a small thing, but this information isn't available
anywhere else and it's extremely hard to get it from the one place it is
available. I finally resorted to cutting and pasting the text into Word so I
could print it.

Also making these pages available as PDF files for easy printing would be
wonderful as well. I've read messages that seem to discuss a new
documentation method coming in the future and maybe that will solve the
problem, but simply fixing the webpages would be much appreciated.

Thanks!



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Re: Website documention problem with page widths

2002-07-03 Thread Diana Shannon


On Wednesday, July 3, 2002, at 06:55  PM, Scott Bussinger wrote:

 Many of the pages have severe issues with page widths. For example, if 
 you
 go to http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/developing/sunspot.html, you'll find 
 the
 the pages are much wider than the browser screen width (same problem in 
 both
 IE and Netscape). It's _very_ hard to read these pages and you can't 
 really
 print them at all (half the text is missing off of the side of the 
 page).
 There are many of these pages scattered throughout the site.

This is a known problem with source snippets that are made up of CDATA 
sections running longer than the designed screen width. We're addressing 
this in Forrest. Right now, the only solution is to manually break these 
snippets in the source XML file for pretty printing in docs. I always 
fix this when I encounter such problems in the existing files I edit, 
and I screen these problems out of all new submissions, but I simply 
haven't had time to fix *all* problematic files, yet. Volunteers?

 This is sounds like a small thing, but this information isn't available
 anywhere else and it's extremely hard to get it from the one place it is
 available. I finally resorted to cutting and pasting the text into Word 
 so I
 could print it.

Sorry you had to go to this trouble.

 Also making these pages available as PDF files for easy printing would 
 be
 wonderful as well. I've read messages that seem to discuss a new
 documentation method coming in the future and maybe that will solve the
 problem, but simply fixing the webpages would be much appreciated.

Also a Forrest goal.

Thanks for your input.

Diana


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RE: Website documention problem with page widths

2002-07-03 Thread Dean McGowan

I would like to offer the services of kangax to handle documentation
publishing, I am sure we can solve many of the problems you are currently
experiencing.

Kangax is a simple publishing tool which leverages cocoon technology.

Please contact Dean McGowan to discuss, this would be a free service to the
community, however editors and contributors are still necessary.

If you are using a win 32 operating system with ie6.0 installed please
download and trial Kangax from

http://www.kangax.com/client/kangax/downloads/setup.exe


Regards,

Dean McGowan




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From: Diana Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 9:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Website documention problem with page widths



On Wednesday, July 3, 2002, at 06:55  PM, Scott Bussinger wrote:

 Many of the pages have severe issues with page widths. For example, if
 you
 go to http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/developing/sunspot.html, you'll find
 the
 the pages are much wider than the browser screen width (same problem in
 both
 IE and Netscape). It's _very_ hard to read these pages and you can't
 really
 print them at all (half the text is missing off of the side of the
 page).
 There are many of these pages scattered throughout the site.

This is a known problem with source snippets that are made up of CDATA
sections running longer than the designed screen width. We're addressing
this in Forrest. Right now, the only solution is to manually break these
snippets in the source XML file for pretty printing in docs. I always
fix this when I encounter such problems in the existing files I edit,
and I screen these problems out of all new submissions, but I simply
haven't had time to fix *all* problematic files, yet. Volunteers?

 This is sounds like a small thing, but this information isn't available
 anywhere else and it's extremely hard to get it from the one place it is
 available. I finally resorted to cutting and pasting the text into Word
 so I
 could print it.

Sorry you had to go to this trouble.

 Also making these pages available as PDF files for easy printing would
 be
 wonderful as well. I've read messages that seem to discuss a new
 documentation method coming in the future and maybe that will solve the
 problem, but simply fixing the webpages would be much appreciated.

Also a Forrest goal.

Thanks for your input.

Diana


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Re: Website documention problem with page widths

2002-07-03 Thread Evan Scott

Houston, it appears we have achieved synergy.

Dean McGowan wrote:

I would like to offer the services of kangax to handle documentation
publishing, I am sure we can solve many of the problems you are currently
experiencing.

Kangax is a simple publishing tool which leverages cocoon technology.

Please contact Dean McGowan to discuss, this would be a free service to the
community, however editors and contributors are still necessary.

If you are using a win 32 operating system with ie6.0 installed please
download and trial Kangax from

http://www.kangax.com/client/kangax/downloads/setup.exe


Regards,

Dean McGowan




-Original Message-
From: Diana Shannon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 9:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Website documention problem with page widths



On Wednesday, July 3, 2002, at 06:55  PM, Scott Bussinger wrote:

Many of the pages have severe issues with page widths. For example, if
you
go to http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/developing/sunspot.html, you'll find
the
the pages are much wider than the browser screen width (same problem in
both
IE and Netscape). It's _very_ hard to read these pages and you can't
really
print them at all (half the text is missing off of the side of the
page).
There are many of these pages scattered throughout the site.


This is a known problem with source snippets that are made up of CDATA
sections running longer than the designed screen width. We're addressing
this in Forrest. Right now, the only solution is to manually break these
snippets in the source XML file for pretty printing in docs. I always
fix this when I encounter such problems in the existing files I edit,
and I screen these problems out of all new submissions, but I simply
haven't had time to fix *all* problematic files, yet. Volunteers?

This is sounds like a small thing, but this information isn't available
anywhere else and it's extremely hard to get it from the one place it is
available. I finally resorted to cutting and pasting the text into Word
so I
could print it.


Sorry you had to go to this trouble.

Also making these pages available as PDF files for easy printing would
be
wonderful as well. I've read messages that seem to discuss a new
documentation method coming in the future and maybe that will solve the
problem, but simply fixing the webpages would be much appreciated.


Also a Forrest goal.

Thanks for your input.

Diana


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