[CODE4LIB] Solr for Internal Searching
Today my boss asked me to come up with a solution that would let us index and search our intranet. I was already thinking of using Solr on our public Web site we are building, and thought this might be a good opportunity to knock two items off the to-do list with the same technology. I know there was a preconference session on Solr this year, and I have the sense that this is gaining traction in the library community. Is there any reason why I shouldn't do this? Thanks, - David --- David Cloutman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electronic Services Librarian Marin County Free Library Email Disclaimer: http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm
Re: [CODE4LIB] Solr for Internal Searching
Hi, David. I think solr is great, and I use it all the time and can highly recommend it. However, if what you have is mostly HTML pages, you might want to consider nutch (http://lucene.apache.org/nutch) instead. Both solr and nutch are based on lucene, but nutch will give you more built-in tools for crawling your website. Use the right tool for the job and all that. :) Bess On 5-Aug-08, at 7:03 PM, Cloutman, David wrote: Today my boss asked me to come up with a solution that would let us index and search our intranet. I was already thinking of using Solr on our public Web site we are building, and thought this might be a good opportunity to knock two items off the to-do list with the same technology. I know there was a preconference session on Solr this year, and I have the sense that this is gaining traction in the library community. Is there any reason why I shouldn't do this? Thanks, - David --- David Cloutman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electronic Services Librarian Marin County Free Library Email Disclaimer: http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm
Re: [CODE4LIB] Solr for Internal Searching
The nice thing about nutch is that it exposes an OpenSearch interface. So you can write your search-y webapps in any language that can speak HTTP and XML, which both Java and PHP should be able to handle. In fact, I'd be surprised if both languages didn't already have OpenSearch libraries. nutch++ -Mike On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Cloutman, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to both Roy and Bess, and anyone else who posts after I write this. I'll definitely have to look into nutch. Just to state my needs a little more clearly, I'm trying to keep our applications contained to Java and PHP solutions, if possible, as our machines are already configured to utilize those platforms. --- David Cloutman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electronic Services Librarian Marin County Free Library -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bess Sadler Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 4:19 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Solr for Internal Searching Hi, David. I think solr is great, and I use it all the time and can highly recommend it. However, if what you have is mostly HTML pages, you might want to consider nutch (http://lucene.apache.org/nutch) instead. Both solr and nutch are based on lucene, but nutch will give you more built-in tools for crawling your website. Use the right tool for the job and all that. :) Bess On 5-Aug-08, at 7:03 PM, Cloutman, David wrote: Today my boss asked me to come up with a solution that would let us index and search our intranet. I was already thinking of using Solr on our public Web site we are building, and thought this might be a good opportunity to knock two items off the to-do list with the same technology. I know there was a preconference session on Solr this year, and I have the sense that this is gaining traction in the library community. Is there any reason why I shouldn't do this? Thanks, - David --- David Cloutman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electronic Services Librarian Marin County Free Library Email Disclaimer: http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm
Re: [CODE4LIB] Solr for Internal Searching
I know this is code4lib, not buystuff4lib, but the Google Mini is reputed to be rather quick, bulletproof and configurable, and starts at $3k. For example, it works nicely with lots of file formats (including Office documents) out of the box. And works with LDAP and NTLM for authentication and authorization. I suspect it'll probably be challenging to deliver a quality search solution for a lower total cost. Of course, this all depends on what your intranet looks like on the inside. I've seen 'intranet' mean a things that would call for wildly different search solutions. So... solr is great, but this question doesn't contain nearly enough information to answer whether it's a good fit for your task at hand. Cheers -Nate On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Cloutman, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today my boss asked me to come up with a solution that would let us index and search our intranet. I was already thinking of using Solr on our public Web site we are building, and thought this might be a good opportunity to knock two items off the to-do list with the same technology. I know there was a preconference session on Solr this year, and I have the sense that this is gaining traction in the library community. Is there any reason why I shouldn't do this? Thanks, - David --- David Cloutman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electronic Services Librarian Marin County Free Library Email Disclaimer: http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm
Re: [CODE4LIB] Solr for Internal Searching
Does Google Mini facet? It seems to have a concept of collections, but does it facet by them? T On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Bill Dueber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At UMich, we use space on a Google Appliance as our site search (different setups for internal vs. public pages) and have been pretty happy. I've been able to abuse the google ads space to our benefit -- e.g., go to http://lib.umich.edu/ and search Web Pages for grad (get today's hours) or 'dueber' (find me). On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Nate Vack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is code4lib, not buystuff4lib, but the Google Mini is reputed to be rather quick, bulletproof and configurable, and starts at $3k. For example, it works nicely with lots of file formats (including Office documents) out of the box. And works with LDAP and NTLM for authentication and authorization. I suspect it'll probably be challenging to deliver a quality search solution for a lower total cost. Of course, this all depends on what your intranet looks like on the inside. I've seen 'intranet' mean a things that would call for wildly different search solutions. So... solr is great, but this question doesn't contain nearly enough information to answer whether it's a good fit for your task at hand. Cheers -Nate On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Cloutman, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today my boss asked me to come up with a solution that would let us index and search our intranet. I was already thinking of using Solr on our public Web site we are building, and thought this might be a good opportunity to knock two items off the to-do list with the same technology. I know there was a preconference session on Solr this year, and I have the sense that this is gaining traction in the library community. Is there any reason why I shouldn't do this? Thanks, - David --- David Cloutman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Electronic Services Librarian Marin County Free Library Email Disclaimer: http://www.co.marin.ca.us/nav/misc/EmailDisclaimer.cfm -- Bill Dueber Library Systems Programmer University of Michigan Library -- Check out my library at http://www.librarything.com/profile/timspalding
