Re: [CODE4LIB] Libraries Sharing Code: The List Making
Hi Patrick, we store the code repositories of eXtensible Catalog on Google Code and Drupal.org. Is this list only for github projects? Regards, Péter 2013/2/17 Jason Ronallo jrona...@gmail.com: OK, I've added some more links and reorganized things a bit. I added sections for other independent library organizations (like Project Blacklight) as well as a section for individuals. I think the resource could be more useful with some indication of what kind of thing you'll see at the other end of the links, but that might be more maintenance than anyone wants to do. Jason On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Patrick Berry pbe...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see any reason to not list repos that contain library code. I wasn't really aiming for the Wikipedia style canonical listing, so the more links the better. Pat On Saturday, February 16, 2013, Jason Ronallo wrote: Pat, While my library has an institutional account we currently use for private repos, we have released some code which is maintained under individual accounts. The code in the individual repositories is copyright North Carolina State University, but isn't included under the institutional account. It might be that in the future we release some code through the institutional account, but have not yet. There are good reasons why this might be the case for other institutions as well. For instance an institution could allow code to be released but not want to take on responsibility for maintaining it. While our library is sharing some code through individuals and their accounts, I wonder if listing individual accounts like this is out of scope for the page you've created? Would it be worth it to create a page that lists individual accounts of code4libbers? Are there other ways to find code released by code4lib folks? Jason On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Patrick Berry pbe...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: First, to the organizations doing this, thank you so much for sharing. I'm sure I'm not the only person to notice the growth in code sharing, especially through Github. As we're associated with libraries, I thought it might be good to have a list, no matter how incomplete, of libraries sharing code. As you might imagine Google searches for library or libraries tend be full of code libraries instead of Libraries with code. Go figure... http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Libraries_Sharing_Code As with all wiki pages, please do add what isn't there. Unless it's links to cheap prescription pills or something. Don't do that. I will admit that originally this page was titled Libraries with Github Organizations but I quickly realized that the first response would point out the painfully obvious fact that you can share code without Github. Yes, I was aware of that before I started the page but I'll @blame jetlag and CST. Pat (the one from Chico) -- Péter Király software developer Europeana - http://europeana.eu eXtensible Catalog - http://eXtensibleCatalog.org
Re: [CODE4LIB] Libraries Sharing Code: The List Making
Hi Pat, While I like the idea of this, I'm having a hard time seeing how this is going to stay up to date or how it will be able to deal with growth, etc. I mean, I'm not too familiar with Ohloh or Masterbranch or their ilk, but it seems like it would make more sense to carve out a spot on a service that aggregates this sort of information already. Does anybody know of a service that would serve our purposes for at least part of this? So maybe a combination of 'institutions with a SCM organizational repo' and then piggyback onto a service for keeping up with the code/specific people/etc? -Ross. On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Patrick Berry pbe...@gmail.com wrote: First, to the organizations doing this, thank you so much for sharing. I'm sure I'm not the only person to notice the growth in code sharing, especially through Github. As we're associated with libraries, I thought it might be good to have a list, no matter how incomplete, of libraries sharing code. As you might imagine Google searches for library or libraries tend be full of code libraries instead of Libraries with code. Go figure... http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Libraries_Sharing_Code As with all wiki pages, please do add what isn't there. Unless it's links to cheap prescription pills or something. Don't do that. I will admit that originally this page was titled Libraries with Github Organizations but I quickly realized that the first response would point out the painfully obvious fact that you can share code without Github. Yes, I was aware of that before I started the page but I'll @blame jetlag and CST. Pat (the one from Chico)
Re: [CODE4LIB] Libraries Sharing Code: The List Making
Absolutely not! Please feel free to add links to public repos of any type. pberry On Sunday, February 17, 2013, Péter Király wrote: Hi Patrick, we store the code repositories of eXtensible Catalog on Google Code and Drupal.org. Is this list only for github projects? Regards, Péter 2013/2/17 Jason Ronallo jrona...@gmail.com javascript:;: OK, I've added some more links and reorganized things a bit. I added sections for other independent library organizations (like Project Blacklight) as well as a section for individuals. I think the resource could be more useful with some indication of what kind of thing you'll see at the other end of the links, but that might be more maintenance than anyone wants to do. Jason On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Patrick Berry pbe...@gmail.comjavascript:; wrote: I don't see any reason to not list repos that contain library code. I wasn't really aiming for the Wikipedia style canonical listing, so the more links the better. Pat On Saturday, February 16, 2013, Jason Ronallo wrote: Pat, While my library has an institutional account we currently use for private repos, we have released some code which is maintained under individual accounts. The code in the individual repositories is copyright North Carolina State University, but isn't included under the institutional account. It might be that in the future we release some code through the institutional account, but have not yet. There are good reasons why this might be the case for other institutions as well. For instance an institution could allow code to be released but not want to take on responsibility for maintaining it. While our library is sharing some code through individuals and their accounts, I wonder if listing individual accounts like this is out of scope for the page you've created? Would it be worth it to create a page that lists individual accounts of code4libbers? Are there other ways to find code released by code4lib folks? Jason On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Patrick Berry pbe...@gmail.comjavascript:; javascript:; wrote: First, to the organizations doing this, thank you so much for sharing. I'm sure I'm not the only person to notice the growth in code sharing, especially through Github. As we're associated with libraries, I thought it might be good to have a list, no matter how incomplete, of libraries sharing code. As you might imagine Google searches for library or libraries tend be full of code libraries instead of Libraries with code. Go figure... http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Libraries_Sharing_Code As with all wiki pages, please do add what isn't there. Unless it's links to cheap prescription pills or something. Don't do that. I will admit that originally this page was titled Libraries with Github Organizations but I quickly realized that the first response would point out the painfully obvious fact that you can share code without Github. Yes, I was aware of that before I started the page but I'll @blame jetlag and CST. Pat (the one from Chico) -- Péter Király software developer Europeana - http://europeana.eu eXtensible Catalog - http://eXtensibleCatalog.org
Re: [CODE4LIB] Public rollout of web annotation data standard
Jacob, Thanks for posting here. I'm hoping you can answer a very basic question about openannotation: can you explain why annotations are not just more relationships in the linked data sphere? Essentially, I don't understand why annotations have a standard of their own, and not just a place in an ontology. What is special about annotations that RDF could not or would not provide, natively? Thanks. I realize that this may be a big question, and am willing to be directed elsewhere. I have looked at the w3c documentation. kc On 2/14/13 7:52 AM, Jacob Jett wrote: Hi, I'm new to this list. I'm the project coordinator for the Open Annotation Collaboration research project based at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. This project has been working in collaboration with similar projects such as the Harvard-based Annotation Ontology project to develop an RDF-based data model for digital annotation tools supporting interoperable annotations. The 1.0 production ready version of this specification, Open Annotation 1.0, has just been published. We are announcing three public meetings introducing the Open Annotation Data Model Community Specification. These day-long public rollouts, carried out in concert with the Annotation Ontology and the Open Annotation Community Group (http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/), and made possible by generous funding from the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation, will inform digital humanities and sciences computing developers, curators of digital collections and scholars using digital content about the W3C Open Annotation Community Group’s work. Participants will learn about the data model's core features and advanced modules through tutorials, a showcase of existing implementations, QA sessions with community implementers and live demonstrations. Topics will include: • The Open Annotation Data Model, • The W3C Open Annotation Community Group, • Existing implementations, • Developer tools resources. Rollout times and places: • U.S. West Coast Rollout – 09 April 2013 at Stanford University (RSVP - https://www.eventville.com/Catalog/EventRegistration1.asp?Eventid=1010270) • U.S. East Coast Rollout – 06 May 2013 at the University of Maryland (RSVP - https://www.eventville.com/Catalog/EventRegistration1.asp?Eventid=1010271) • U.K. Rollout – 24 June 2013 at the University of Manchester (RSVP - https://www.eventville.com/Catalog/EventRegistration1.asp?Eventid=1010272) There is no registration fee but RSVP (online) is required. RSVP for a rollout near you using one of the links above or by visiting: http://www.openannotation.org/RolloutInfo.html You can learn further information about the W3C Open Annotation Community Group and the Open Annotation Collaboration by visiting: http://www.w3.org/community/openannotation/ http://openannotation.org Regards, Jacob _ Jacob Jett Visiting Project Coordinator Center for Informatics Research in Science and Scholarship The Graduate School of Library and Information Science University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 501 E. Daniel Street, MC-493, Champaign, IL 61820-6211 USA (217) 244-2164 jje...@illinois.edu -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] You *are* a coder. So what am I?
I have been writing software professionally since around 1980 and first encounterd perl in the early 1990s of so and have *always* disliked it. Last year I had to work on a project that was mostly developed in perl and it reminded me how much I disliked it. As a utility language, and one that I think is good for beginning programmers (especially for those working in a library) I'd recommend PHP over perl every time. -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kyle Banerjee Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 12:28 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] You *are* a coder. So what am I? BTW, I think perl gets the short shrift as a utility language. People hate it because it's ugly, but for data manipulation and analysis, it's very practical.
[CODE4LIB] LibDevConX
Anyone else from the list going to the LibDevConX workshop at Stanford next month?
Re: [CODE4LIB] You *are* a coder. So what am I?
On Feb 17, 2013, at 11:43 AM, John Fereira wrote: I have been writing software professionally since around 1980 and first encounterd perl in the early 1990s of so and have *always* disliked it. Last year I had to work on a project that was mostly developed in perl and it reminded me how much I disliked it. As a utility language, and one that I think is good for beginning programmers (especially for those working in a library) I'd recommend PHP over perl every time. I'll agree that there are a few aspects of Perl that can be confusing, as some functions will change behavior depending on context, and there was a lot of bad code examples out there.* ... but I'd recommend almost any current mainstream language before recommending that someone learn PHP. If you're looking to make web pages, learn Ruby. If you're doing data cleanup, Perl if it's lots of text, Python if it's mostly numbers. I should also mention that in the early 1990s would have been Perl 4 ... and unfortunately, most people who learned Perl never learned Perl 5. It's changed a lot over the years. (just like PHP isn't nearly as insecure as it used to be ... and actually supports placeholders so you don't end up with SQL injections) -Joe
