[CODE4LIB] Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey

2014-09-20 Thread Lisa Rabey
Friends:


I know many of you have already been boosting the signal, and we thank
you profusely for the help.

For those who do not know, Joe Murphy is currently suing nina and I in
$1.25M defamation case because

From our official statement
(http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/why-are-we-being-sued/)

Mr. Murphy claims that Ms. Rabey “posted the following false,
libelous and highly damaging tweet accusing the plaintiff of being a
‘sexual predator'”3. He further claims that Ms. de jesus wrote a blog
post that “makes additional false, libelous, highly damaging,
outrageous, malicious statements against the plaintiff alleging the
commission of sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women and other
forms of criminal and unlawful behaviour”4.

Both Ms. Rabey and Ms. de jesus maintain that our comments are fair
and are truthful, which we intend to establish in our defense. Neither
of us made the claims maliciously nor with any intent to damage Mr.
Murphy’s reputation.

Right now we need the following most importantly:

1. We have a call out for additional witnesses
(http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/call-for-witnesses/), which have
started to filter in more accounts of harrassment. Please, PLEASE, if
you know/seen/heard anything about the plaintiff, or know someone who
might -- please have them get in touch.

2. Share our site (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com) which includes
details of the case and updates. Please help us get the word out to as
many people as possible about the plaintiff's attempt to silence those
speaking up against sexual harassment and why you won't stand for it.

3.
onations: Many, many of you have asked to help donate to fund our
mounting legal costs. We will have a donation page up soon. Even if
you cannot help financially, please share across your social networks.

We will not be silenced. We will not be shamed.

Thank you again. The outpouring of support that has been happening has
made this all very much worth while.

Best,
Lisa






-- 

Lisa M. Rabey | @pnkrcklibrarian
-
https://exitpursuedbyabear.net | https://lisarabey.com


Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides v2 - Templates and Nav

2014-09-20 Thread Alex Armstrong
I was actually a bit coy in my previous post. Our old site was 
reasonably battle-hardened for usability. It's not like we transitioned 
from three-column layouts and guides with three rows of tabs or anything.


I'm still trying to come up with tasks for testing. I suspect a lot of 
the big stuff will be OK while a lot of the small stuff will be off. 
It's been really hard to test the latter. (And there is a glitches in 
our analytics so I'm also flying a bit blind.)


Is there something in particular you're wondering about?

Alex


On 09/19/2014 07:50 PM, Joshua Welker wrote:

Nice job. I like the simplicity. Let me know how the usability testing goes.

Josh Welker


-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Alex
Armstrong
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 10:28 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides v2 - Templates and Nav

Long time lurker, second time poster (if memory serves).

We launched our new library website yesterday, which is entirely built on
LibGuides 2. You can see it here: http://library.acg.edu/

For simplicity’s sake we used only two templates:

  a full width template for single page guides (e.g., our home page).
  a content template that uses ~2/3 of the page for the content and
~1/3 for guide navigation.

There are no dropdown menus anywhere, for the reasons people mentioned, nor
do we use two columns for content. (Some of the landing pages use a small
grid, but that’s about it.)

We use LG’s built-in second column wrapped around an `aside` and placed at
the bottom of the main content for related info. Scroll to the bottom of
this page to see what I mean: http://library.acg.edu/citations/apa

I decided to keep the navigation menu on the right to emphasize the main
content. My guess is that this won’t work very well for sections with more
narrative. My inspiration (GOV.uk) uses wizard navigation, which
LG2 supports. That may be a way of handling this issue.

I put the site together with almost no usability testing. I’ll have to grab
some students in the coming weeks and find out how bad things really are :)

You can see a slightly abstracted version of the content template, as well
as other useful LG2 thingies in this gist:
https://gist.github.com/alehandrof/9f083aa03c287931d9f0

The design was written in Sass on top of an imported and customized
Bootstrap 3.2. There's an option in the LG admin to disable the default
Bootstrap and I only had to write a few hundred lines to override aspects of
the default LG stylesheets. Because I built the design on top of Bootstrap
there was very little tweaking necessary for the admin side to work
properly.

Hope this helps,
Alex

--
Alex Armstrong
E-Resource/Reference Assistant
The American College of Greece Libraries, John S. Bailey Library
6 Gravias Street | GR 153 42 Agia Paraskevi | Athens, Greece
Phone: +30 210 600 9800 ext. 1274, 1267 | Fax: +30 210 601 7795
Email: aarmstr...@acg.edu



On 2014-09-19 12:31 AM, Joshua Welker wrote:

That's a good idea. I changed the template using Bootstrap classes so
that the sidebar will appear below the main column on small screens (
1024px roughly). But I might consider hiding the side completely.

Josh Welker


-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf
Of Michael Schofield
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:55 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides v2 - Templates and Nav

I love your minimal template. We're experimenting with similar minimalism.
If you all can't agree on the existence of the right column, you might
compromise and use media queries to display: none; until the screen is
sufficiently wide. E.g., 1140px so it will only pop on widescreen
monitors and avoid almost all tablet orientations.

Good work.

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf
Of Joshua Welker
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:43 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] LibGuides v2 - Templates and Nav

I am in the middle of building a very minimalist LibGuides 2.0
template to go with our new website. Here's the current status:
http://ucmo.beta.libguides.com/test-guide.

We are still torn on whether to have any side columns. We currently
have a right column just for important site-wide information. We used
the right rather than left with the rationale that it is not an
essential navigation menu and that we didn't want it to be the first
thing users notice. Content should come first. The fact that users
will not focus heavily on the right-hand content is actually a good thing
in this instance.

I go back and forth on whether to scrap the side column. I am pretty
adamant that there should only be one column for page content,
although I am prepared to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous
fortune.

Josh Welker


-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries 

Re: [CODE4LIB] Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey

2014-09-20 Thread Karen Coyle
Lisa, I hadn't know about this so I just spend some time reading the 
items you list below. I was primarily motivated to do so because I had 
never heard of this famous librarian, Joe Murphy. (I must be in a 
different conference circuit than he is.)


I also was interested because I've recently joined the hardworking group 
of Wikipedians who work to distinguish between notable persons and able 
self-promoters. In doing so, I've learned a lot about how self-promotion 
works, especially in social media. In Wikipedia, to be considered 
notable, there needs to be some reliable proof - that is, third-party 
references, not provided by the individual in question. In terms of 
accomplishments, for example for academics, there is a list of 
measures, albeit not measurable in the scientific sense. [1]


Just for a lark, look at the Google scholar profiles for Joe Murphy, 
RoyT, and for myself:


http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zW1lb04Jhl=enoi=ao
http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=LJw73cAJhl=en
http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m4Tx73QJhl=enoi=ao

The h-index, while imprecise, is about as close as you get to 
something one can cite as a measure. It's not a decision, but it is an 
indication.


I put this forward not as proof of anything, but to offer that 
reputation is extremely hard to quantify, but should be looked at with a 
critical eye and not taken for granted. It also fits in with what we 
already know, which is that men promote themselves in the workplace more 
aggressively than women do. In fact, in the Wikipedia group, we mainly 
find articles about men whose notability is over-stated. (You can see my 
blog post on the problems of notability for women. [2])


I greatly admire your stand for free speech. Beyond this, I will contact 
you offline with other thoughts.


kc
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28academics%29
[2] http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2014/09/wpnotability-and-women.html

On 9/20/14, 9:16 AM, Lisa Rabey wrote:

Friends:


I know many of you have already been boosting the signal, and we thank
you profusely for the help.

For those who do not know, Joe Murphy is currently suing nina and I in
$1.25M defamation case because

 From our official statement
(http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/why-are-we-being-sued/)

Mr. Murphy claims that Ms. Rabey “posted the following false,
libelous and highly damaging tweet accusing the plaintiff of being a
‘sexual predator'”3. He further claims that Ms. de jesus wrote a blog
post that “makes additional false, libelous, highly damaging,
outrageous, malicious statements against the plaintiff alleging the
commission of sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women and other
forms of criminal and unlawful behaviour”4.

Both Ms. Rabey and Ms. de jesus maintain that our comments are fair
and are truthful, which we intend to establish in our defense. Neither
of us made the claims maliciously nor with any intent to damage Mr.
Murphy’s reputation.

Right now we need the following most importantly:

1. We have a call out for additional witnesses
(http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/call-for-witnesses/), which have
started to filter in more accounts of harrassment. Please, PLEASE, if
you know/seen/heard anything about the plaintiff, or know someone who
might -- please have them get in touch.

2. Share our site (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com) which includes
details of the case and updates. Please help us get the word out to as
many people as possible about the plaintiff's attempt to silence those
speaking up against sexual harassment and why you won't stand for it.

3.
onations: Many, many of you have asked to help donate to fund our
mounting legal costs. We will have a donation page up soon. Even if
you cannot help financially, please share across your social networks.

We will not be silenced. We will not be shamed.

Thank you again. The outpouring of support that has been happening has
made this all very much worth while.

Best,
Lisa








--
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: +1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600


Re: [CODE4LIB] Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey

2014-09-20 Thread Roy Tennant
Just a minor point. Despite my relative index score it doesn't necessarily mean 
that I am not a shameless self-promoter, it may just mean I've been at it 
longer. Just sayin'.
Roy

 On Sep 20, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
 
 Lisa, I hadn't know about this so I just spend some time reading the items 
 you list below. I was primarily motivated to do so because I had never heard 
 of this famous librarian, Joe Murphy. (I must be in a different conference 
 circuit than he is.)
 
 I also was interested because I've recently joined the hardworking group of 
 Wikipedians who work to distinguish between notable persons and able 
 self-promoters. In doing so, I've learned a lot about how self-promotion 
 works, especially in social media. In Wikipedia, to be considered notable, 
 there needs to be some reliable proof - that is, third-party references, not 
 provided by the individual in question. In terms of accomplishments, for 
 example for academics, there is a list of measures, albeit not measurable 
 in the scientific sense. [1]
 
 Just for a lark, look at the Google scholar profiles for Joe Murphy, RoyT, 
 and for myself:
 
 http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zW1lb04Jhl=enoi=ao
 http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=LJw73cAJhl=en
 http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m4Tx73QJhl=enoi=ao
 
 The h-index, while imprecise, is about as close as you get to something one 
 can cite as a measure. It's not a decision, but it is an indication.
 
 I put this forward not as proof of anything, but to offer that reputation is 
 extremely hard to quantify, but should be looked at with a critical eye and 
 not taken for granted. It also fits in with what we already know, which is 
 that men promote themselves in the workplace more aggressively than women do. 
 In fact, in the Wikipedia group, we mainly find articles about men whose 
 notability is over-stated. (You can see my blog post on the problems of 
 notability for women. [2])
 
 I greatly admire your stand for free speech. Beyond this, I will contact you 
 offline with other thoughts.
 
 kc
 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28academics%29
 [2] http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2014/09/wpnotability-and-women.html
 
 On 9/20/14, 9:16 AM, Lisa Rabey wrote:
 Friends:
 
 
 I know many of you have already been boosting the signal, and we thank
 you profusely for the help.
 
 For those who do not know, Joe Murphy is currently suing nina and I in
 $1.25M defamation case because
 
 From our official statement
 (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/why-are-we-being-sued/)
 
 Mr. Murphy claims that Ms. Rabey “posted the following false,
 libelous and highly damaging tweet accusing the plaintiff of being a
 ‘sexual predator'”3. He further claims that Ms. de jesus wrote a blog
 post that “makes additional false, libelous, highly damaging,
 outrageous, malicious statements against the plaintiff alleging the
 commission of sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women and other
 forms of criminal and unlawful behaviour”4.
 
 Both Ms. Rabey and Ms. de jesus maintain that our comments are fair
 and are truthful, which we intend to establish in our defense. Neither
 of us made the claims maliciously nor with any intent to damage Mr.
 Murphy’s reputation.
 
 Right now we need the following most importantly:
 
 1. We have a call out for additional witnesses
 (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/call-for-witnesses/), which have
 started to filter in more accounts of harrassment. Please, PLEASE, if
 you know/seen/heard anything about the plaintiff, or know someone who
 might -- please have them get in touch.
 
 2. Share our site (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com) which includes
 details of the case and updates. Please help us get the word out to as
 many people as possible about the plaintiff's attempt to silence those
 speaking up against sexual harassment and why you won't stand for it.
 
 3.
 onations: Many, many of you have asked to help donate to fund our
 mounting legal costs. We will have a donation page up soon. Even if
 you cannot help financially, please share across your social networks.
 
 We will not be silenced. We will not be shamed.
 
 Thank you again. The outpouring of support that has been happening has
 made this all very much worth while.
 
 Best,
 Lisa
 
 -- 
 Karen Coyle
 kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
 m: +1-510-435-8234
 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600


Re: [CODE4LIB] Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey

2014-09-20 Thread Karen Coyle
Roy, this is pretty much in line with what I said, below: shameless 
self-promotion can be seen as a plus or at least not a minus for men, 
but few women would have replied the way you did. It does make you 
wonder how much more visible women would be if self-promotion were more 
culturally acceptable for them. Again, I refer to my blog post, which 
you may not have had time to read before posting.


kc

On 9/20/14, 12:41 PM, Roy Tennant wrote:

Just a minor point. Despite my relative index score it doesn't necessarily mean 
that I am not a shameless self-promoter, it may just mean I've been at it 
longer. Just sayin'.
Roy


On Sep 20, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:

Lisa, I hadn't know about this so I just spend some time reading the items you list 
below. I was primarily motivated to do so because I had never heard of this 
famous librarian, Joe Murphy. (I must be in a different conference circuit 
than he is.)

I also was interested because I've recently joined the hardworking group of Wikipedians 
who work to distinguish between notable persons and able self-promoters. In doing so, 
I've learned a lot about how self-promotion works, especially in social media. In 
Wikipedia, to be considered notable, there needs to be some reliable proof - that is, 
third-party references, not provided by the individual in question. In terms of 
accomplishments, for example for academics, there is a list of measures, 
albeit not measurable in the scientific sense. [1]

Just for a lark, look at the Google scholar profiles for Joe Murphy, RoyT, and 
for myself:

http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zW1lb04Jhl=enoi=ao
http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=LJw73cAJhl=en
http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m4Tx73QJhl=enoi=ao

The h-index, while imprecise, is about as close as you get to something one 
can cite as a measure. It's not a decision, but it is an indication.

I put this forward not as proof of anything, but to offer that reputation is 
extremely hard to quantify, but should be looked at with a critical eye and not 
taken for granted. It also fits in with what we already know, which is that men 
promote themselves in the workplace more aggressively than women do. In fact, 
in the Wikipedia group, we mainly find articles about men whose notability is 
over-stated. (You can see my blog post on the problems of notability for women. 
[2])

I greatly admire your stand for free speech. Beyond this, I will contact you 
offline with other thoughts.

kc
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28academics%29
[2] http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2014/09/wpnotability-and-women.html


On 9/20/14, 9:16 AM, Lisa Rabey wrote:
Friends:


I know many of you have already been boosting the signal, and we thank
you profusely for the help.

For those who do not know, Joe Murphy is currently suing nina and I in
$1.25M defamation case because

 From our official statement
(http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/why-are-we-being-sued/)

Mr. Murphy claims that Ms. Rabey “posted the following false,
libelous and highly damaging tweet accusing the plaintiff of being a
‘sexual predator'”3. He further claims that Ms. de jesus wrote a blog
post that “makes additional false, libelous, highly damaging,
outrageous, malicious statements against the plaintiff alleging the
commission of sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women and other
forms of criminal and unlawful behaviour”4.

Both Ms. Rabey and Ms. de jesus maintain that our comments are fair
and are truthful, which we intend to establish in our defense. Neither
of us made the claims maliciously nor with any intent to damage Mr.
Murphy’s reputation.

Right now we need the following most importantly:

1. We have a call out for additional witnesses
(http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/call-for-witnesses/), which have
started to filter in more accounts of harrassment. Please, PLEASE, if
you know/seen/heard anything about the plaintiff, or know someone who
might -- please have them get in touch.

2. Share our site (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com) which includes
details of the case and updates. Please help us get the word out to as
many people as possible about the plaintiff's attempt to silence those
speaking up against sexual harassment and why you won't stand for it.

3.
onations: Many, many of you have asked to help donate to fund our
mounting legal costs. We will have a donation page up soon. Even if
you cannot help financially, please share across your social networks.

We will not be silenced. We will not be shamed.

Thank you again. The outpouring of support that has been happening has
made this all very much worth while.

Best,
Lisa

--
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: +1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600


--
Karen Coyle
kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
m: +1-510-435-8234
skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600


Re: [CODE4LIB] Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey

2014-09-20 Thread Lisa Rabey
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:
snip
 I put this forward not as proof of anything, but to offer that reputation is
 extremely hard to quantify, but should be looked at with a critical eye and
 not taken for granted. It also fits in with what we already know, which is
 that men promote themselves in the workplace more aggressively than women
 do. In fact, in the Wikipedia group, we mainly find articles about men whose
 notability is over-stated. (You can see my blog post on the problems of
 notability for women. [2])

 I greatly admire your stand for free speech. Beyond this, I will contact you
 offline with other thoughts.

Anything quoted in our official public statement (and thus in my
previous email message) is taken directly from Murphy's lawyer's
statement of alleged complaint.

Lisa







-- 

Lisa M. Rabey | @byshieldmaiden (formerly @pnkrcklibrarian)
-
https://exitpursuedbyabear.net | https://lisarabey.com


Re: [CODE4LIB] Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey

2014-09-20 Thread Edward M. Corrado
I don't know anything about the lawsuit or what has transpired to cause it,
but since when does an H-index score make one a notable librarian? Many
notable librarians don't publish anything at all.

Edward

On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:

 Lisa, I hadn't know about this so I just spend some time reading the items
 you list below. I was primarily motivated to do so because I had never
 heard of this famous librarian, Joe Murphy. (I must be in a different
 conference circuit than he is.)

 I also was interested because I've recently joined the hardworking group
 of Wikipedians who work to distinguish between notable persons and able
 self-promoters. In doing so, I've learned a lot about how self-promotion
 works, especially in social media. In Wikipedia, to be considered notable,
 there needs to be some reliable proof - that is, third-party references,
 not provided by the individual in question. In terms of accomplishments,
 for example for academics, there is a list of measures, albeit not
 measurable in the scientific sense. [1]

 Just for a lark, look at the Google scholar profiles for Joe Murphy, RoyT,
 and for myself:

 http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zW1lb04Jhl=enoi=ao
 http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=LJw73cAJhl=en
 http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m4Tx73QJhl=enoi=ao

 The h-index, while imprecise, is about as close as you get to something
 one can cite as a measure. It's not a decision, but it is an indication.

 I put this forward not as proof of anything, but to offer that reputation
 is extremely hard to quantify, but should be looked at with a critical eye
 and not taken for granted. It also fits in with what we already know, which
 is that men promote themselves in the workplace more aggressively than
 women do. In fact, in the Wikipedia group, we mainly find articles about
 men whose notability is over-stated. (You can see my blog post on the
 problems of notability for women. [2])

 I greatly admire your stand for free speech. Beyond this, I will contact
 you offline with other thoughts.

 kc
 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28academics%29
 [2] http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2014/09/wpnotability-and-women.html


 On 9/20/14, 9:16 AM, Lisa Rabey wrote:

 Friends:


 I know many of you have already been boosting the signal, and we thank
 you profusely for the help.

 For those who do not know, Joe Murphy is currently suing nina and I in
 $1.25M defamation case because

  From our official statement
 (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/why-are-we-being-sued/)

 Mr. Murphy claims that Ms. Rabey “posted the following false,
 libelous and highly damaging tweet accusing the plaintiff of being a
 ‘sexual predator'”3. He further claims that Ms. de jesus wrote a blog
 post that “makes additional false, libelous, highly damaging,
 outrageous, malicious statements against the plaintiff alleging the
 commission of sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women and other
 forms of criminal and unlawful behaviour”4.

 Both Ms. Rabey and Ms. de jesus maintain that our comments are fair
 and are truthful, which we intend to establish in our defense. Neither
 of us made the claims maliciously nor with any intent to damage Mr.
 Murphy’s reputation.

 Right now we need the following most importantly:

 1. We have a call out for additional witnesses
 (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/call-for-witnesses/), which have
 started to filter in more accounts of harrassment. Please, PLEASE, if
 you know/seen/heard anything about the plaintiff, or know someone who
 might -- please have them get in touch.

 2. Share our site (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com) which includes
 details of the case and updates. Please help us get the word out to as
 many people as possible about the plaintiff's attempt to silence those
 speaking up against sexual harassment and why you won't stand for it.

 3.
 onations: Many, many of you have asked to help donate to fund our
 mounting legal costs. We will have a donation page up soon. Even if
 you cannot help financially, please share across your social networks.

 We will not be silenced. We will not be shamed.

 Thank you again. The outpouring of support that has been happening has
 made this all very much worth while.

 Best,
 Lisa







 --
 Karen Coyle
 kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
 m: +1-510-435-8234
 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600



Re: [CODE4LIB] Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey

2014-09-20 Thread Riley Childs
+1

Riley Childs
Senior
Charlotte United Christian Academy
Library Services Administrator
IT Services
(704) 497-2086
rileychilds.net
@rowdychildren

From: Edward M. Corradomailto:ecorr...@ecorrado.us
Sent: ‎9/‎20/‎2014 7:21 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDUmailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph 
Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey

I don't know anything about the lawsuit or what has transpired to cause it,
but since when does an H-index score make one a notable librarian? Many
notable librarians don't publish anything at all.

Edward

On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:

 Lisa, I hadn't know about this so I just spend some time reading the items
 you list below. I was primarily motivated to do so because I had never
 heard of this famous librarian, Joe Murphy. (I must be in a different
 conference circuit than he is.)

 I also was interested because I've recently joined the hardworking group
 of Wikipedians who work to distinguish between notable persons and able
 self-promoters. In doing so, I've learned a lot about how self-promotion
 works, especially in social media. In Wikipedia, to be considered notable,
 there needs to be some reliable proof - that is, third-party references,
 not provided by the individual in question. In terms of accomplishments,
 for example for academics, there is a list of measures, albeit not
 measurable in the scientific sense. [1]

 Just for a lark, look at the Google scholar profiles for Joe Murphy, RoyT,
 and for myself:

 http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zW1lb04Jhl=enoi=ao
 http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=LJw73cAJhl=en
 http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m4Tx73QJhl=enoi=ao

 The h-index, while imprecise, is about as close as you get to something
 one can cite as a measure. It's not a decision, but it is an indication.

 I put this forward not as proof of anything, but to offer that reputation
 is extremely hard to quantify, but should be looked at with a critical eye
 and not taken for granted. It also fits in with what we already know, which
 is that men promote themselves in the workplace more aggressively than
 women do. In fact, in the Wikipedia group, we mainly find articles about
 men whose notability is over-stated. (You can see my blog post on the
 problems of notability for women. [2])

 I greatly admire your stand for free speech. Beyond this, I will contact
 you offline with other thoughts.

 kc
 [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28academics%29
 [2] http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2014/09/wpnotability-and-women.html


 On 9/20/14, 9:16 AM, Lisa Rabey wrote:

 Friends:


 I know many of you have already been boosting the signal, and we thank
 you profusely for the help.

 For those who do not know, Joe Murphy is currently suing nina and I in
 $1.25M defamation case because

  From our official statement
 (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/why-are-we-being-sued/)

 Mr. Murphy claims that Ms. Rabey “posted the following false,
 libelous and highly damaging tweet accusing the plaintiff of being a
 ‘sexual predator'”3. He further claims that Ms. de jesus wrote a blog
 post that “makes additional false, libelous, highly damaging,
 outrageous, malicious statements against the plaintiff alleging the
 commission of sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women and other
 forms of criminal and unlawful behaviour”4.

 Both Ms. Rabey and Ms. de jesus maintain that our comments are fair
 and are truthful, which we intend to establish in our defense. Neither
 of us made the claims maliciously nor with any intent to damage Mr.
 Murphy’s reputation.

 Right now we need the following most importantly:

 1. We have a call out for additional witnesses
 (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/call-for-witnesses/), which have
 started to filter in more accounts of harrassment. Please, PLEASE, if
 you know/seen/heard anything about the plaintiff, or know someone who
 might -- please have them get in touch.

 2. Share our site (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com) which includes
 details of the case and updates. Please help us get the word out to as
 many people as possible about the plaintiff's attempt to silence those
 speaking up against sexual harassment and why you won't stand for it.

 3.
 onations: Many, many of you have asked to help donate to fund our
 mounting legal costs. We will have a donation page up soon. Even if
 you cannot help financially, please share across your social networks.

 We will not be silenced. We will not be shamed.

 Thank you again. The outpouring of support that has been happening has
 made this all very much worth while.

 Best,
 Lisa







 --
 Karen Coyle
 kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
 m: +1-510-435-8234
 skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600



Re: [CODE4LIB] Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey

2014-09-20 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
Perhaps this topic could be taken up in another thread?

-Mike
On Sep 20, 2014 4:22 PM, Edward M. Corrado ecorr...@ecorrado.us wrote:

 I don't know anything about the lawsuit or what has transpired to cause it,
 but since when does an H-index score make one a notable librarian? Many
 notable librarians don't publish anything at all.

 Edward

 On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote:

  Lisa, I hadn't know about this so I just spend some time reading the
 items
  you list below. I was primarily motivated to do so because I had never
  heard of this famous librarian, Joe Murphy. (I must be in a different
  conference circuit than he is.)
 
  I also was interested because I've recently joined the hardworking group
  of Wikipedians who work to distinguish between notable persons and able
  self-promoters. In doing so, I've learned a lot about how self-promotion
  works, especially in social media. In Wikipedia, to be considered
 notable,
  there needs to be some reliable proof - that is, third-party references,
  not provided by the individual in question. In terms of accomplishments,
  for example for academics, there is a list of measures, albeit not
  measurable in the scientific sense. [1]
 
  Just for a lark, look at the Google scholar profiles for Joe Murphy,
 RoyT,
  and for myself:
 
  http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zW1lb04Jhl=enoi=ao
  http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=LJw73cAJhl=en
  http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m4Tx73QJhl=enoi=ao
 
  The h-index, while imprecise, is about as close as you get to something
  one can cite as a measure. It's not a decision, but it is an indication.
 
  I put this forward not as proof of anything, but to offer that reputation
  is extremely hard to quantify, but should be looked at with a critical
 eye
  and not taken for granted. It also fits in with what we already know,
 which
  is that men promote themselves in the workplace more aggressively than
  women do. In fact, in the Wikipedia group, we mainly find articles about
  men whose notability is over-stated. (You can see my blog post on the
  problems of notability for women. [2])
 
  I greatly admire your stand for free speech. Beyond this, I will contact
  you offline with other thoughts.
 
  kc
  [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28academics%29
  [2] http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2014/09/wpnotability-and-women.html
 
 
  On 9/20/14, 9:16 AM, Lisa Rabey wrote:
 
  Friends:
 
 
  I know many of you have already been boosting the signal, and we thank
  you profusely for the help.
 
  For those who do not know, Joe Murphy is currently suing nina and I in
  $1.25M defamation case because
 
   From our official statement
  (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/why-are-we-being-sued/)
 
  Mr. Murphy claims that Ms. Rabey “posted the following false,
  libelous and highly damaging tweet accusing the plaintiff of being a
  ‘sexual predator'”3. He further claims that Ms. de jesus wrote a blog
  post that “makes additional false, libelous, highly damaging,
  outrageous, malicious statements against the plaintiff alleging the
  commission of sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women and other
  forms of criminal and unlawful behaviour”4.
 
  Both Ms. Rabey and Ms. de jesus maintain that our comments are fair
  and are truthful, which we intend to establish in our defense. Neither
  of us made the claims maliciously nor with any intent to damage Mr.
  Murphy’s reputation.
 
  Right now we need the following most importantly:
 
  1. We have a call out for additional witnesses
  (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/call-for-witnesses/), which have
  started to filter in more accounts of harrassment. Please, PLEASE, if
  you know/seen/heard anything about the plaintiff, or know someone who
  might -- please have them get in touch.
 
  2. Share our site (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com) which includes
  details of the case and updates. Please help us get the word out to as
  many people as possible about the plaintiff's attempt to silence those
  speaking up against sexual harassment and why you won't stand for it.
 
  3.
  onations: Many, many of you have asked to help donate to fund our
  mounting legal costs. We will have a donation page up soon. Even if
  you cannot help financially, please share across your social networks.
 
  We will not be silenced. We will not be shamed.
 
  Thank you again. The outpouring of support that has been happening has
  made this all very much worth while.
 
  Best,
  Lisa
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  Karen Coyle
  kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net
  m: +1-510-435-8234
  skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600