Re: [CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy
Pull requests welcome. From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Andreas Orphanides [akorp...@ncsu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:33 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy In particular, we'd need to think about how to shape the sanctions section, including things like: - What's an appropriate sanction in non-conference setting X? - Who is empowered to enact sanctions? - If a participant feels they have been harassed, who do they contact and how? - possibly other stuff? I think the conflict resolution part is in better shape, though it would need a little cleanup for more universal (i.e., not conference-specific) language. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote: My cursory web search came up with the one that was developed for the most recent conference, but it's not clear to me what the breadth of the document is supposed to include. I think it was applied to the IRC channel during the conference, but if it was written specifically as a conference policy, it's probably worth revisiting to ensure that it covers everything needed community-wide outside of conference time as well. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess co...@sheldon-hess.org wrote: I was under the impression that we had a code of conduct/anti-harassment policy in place for IRC and the mailing lists. Was this an incorrect impression? I am definitely in favor of adopting one, if there isn't one in place! Logistically, Geek Feminism is also not a formal organization--they were recently described as an anarchist collective--so I think we could follow their lead pretty easily. We could make a mail alias that goes to a ROTATING team/committee (this is very important; people burn out, dealing with these things for too long), for reporting purposes. IRC aliases are a thing, too, right? -coral
Re: [CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy
Hi folks, In the interest of documentation and keeping similar threads together (and in the vein of Sean's comment about pull requests), I've started an issue at https://github.com/code4lib/antiharassment-policy/issues/46 for folks who want to hammer out the specifics there. In addition, if you want to make changes to the https://github.com/code4lib/antiharassment-policy docs and are not sure where to start (or don't want to create an account, or just not sure what the heck a 'pull request' means) give me a holler - it will at least give me a small break from dealing with ILS In Transit location drama at MPOW today. :c) Cheers, Becky On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Sean Hannan shan...@jhu.edu wrote: Pull requests welcome. From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Andreas Orphanides [akorp...@ncsu.edu] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 9:33 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy In particular, we'd need to think about how to shape the sanctions section, including things like: - What's an appropriate sanction in non-conference setting X? - Who is empowered to enact sanctions? - If a participant feels they have been harassed, who do they contact and how? - possibly other stuff? I think the conflict resolution part is in better shape, though it would need a little cleanup for more universal (i.e., not conference-specific) language. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote: My cursory web search came up with the one that was developed for the most recent conference, but it's not clear to me what the breadth of the document is supposed to include. I think it was applied to the IRC channel during the conference, but if it was written specifically as a conference policy, it's probably worth revisiting to ensure that it covers everything needed community-wide outside of conference time as well. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess co...@sheldon-hess.org wrote: I was under the impression that we had a code of conduct/anti-harassment policy in place for IRC and the mailing lists. Was this an incorrect impression? I am definitely in favor of adopting one, if there isn't one in place! Logistically, Geek Feminism is also not a formal organization--they were recently described as an anarchist collective--so I think we could follow their lead pretty easily. We could make a mail alias that goes to a ROTATING team/committee (this is very important; people burn out, dealing with these things for too long), for reporting purposes. IRC aliases are a thing, too, right? -coral
Re: [CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy
Maybe it would be better to have an odd number of people for the group in case of disagreement? 9 or 11 people would ensure nothing got stuck half-way. __ Catherine Dixon Library Assistant - Discovery Services Simmons College Library 300 The Fenway Boston, MA 02115 P: 617-521-2790 catherine.di...@simmons.edu julia.caff...@simmons.edu On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Riley Childs rchi...@cucawarriors.com wrote: Sanctions, block in IRC? That would require mods or chanserv, right? Temporary ban from mailing list? I think it should be a rotating group of 10 people who vote on this, randomly picked (everyone gets a number and a program picks 10?) to eliminate politics of any sort, of course 10 is arbitrary. I think an arbitrator should randomly be selected from the 10 on a case by case basis? Just a few suggestions... And what is harassment? It can only be defined to a point, it is really on an individual level, the person being harassed defines it. Riley Childs Student Asst. Head of IT Services Charlotte United Christian Academy (704) 497-2086 RileyChilds.net Sent from my Windows Phone, please excuse mistakes From: Andreas Orphanidesmailto:akorp...@ncsu.edu Sent: 7/2/2014 9:34 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDUmailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy In particular, we'd need to think about how to shape the sanctions section, including things like: - What's an appropriate sanction in non-conference setting X? - Who is empowered to enact sanctions? - If a participant feels they have been harassed, who do they contact and how? - possibly other stuff? I think the conflict resolution part is in better shape, though it would need a little cleanup for more universal (i.e., not conference-specific) language. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote: My cursory web search came up with the one that was developed for the most recent conference, but it's not clear to me what the breadth of the document is supposed to include. I think it was applied to the IRC channel during the conference, but if it was written specifically as a conference policy, it's probably worth revisiting to ensure that it covers everything needed community-wide outside of conference time as well. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess co...@sheldon-hess.org wrote: I was under the impression that we had a code of conduct/anti-harassment policy in place for IRC and the mailing lists. Was this an incorrect impression? I am definitely in favor of adopting one, if there isn't one in place! Logistically, Geek Feminism is also not a formal organization--they were recently described as an anarchist collective--so I think we could follow their lead pretty easily. We could make a mail alias that goes to a ROTATING team/committee (this is very important; people burn out, dealing with these things for too long), for reporting purposes. IRC aliases are a thing, too, right? -coral
[CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy
Hey folks, Recently on the Geek Feminism blog there have been some posts about their recent adoption of a community anti-harassment policy [1, 2, 3]. This differs from their model conference anti-harassment policy (which is awesome and which I seem to recall is one of the bases for our own conference policy) in that it applies to the community as a whole and its associated community activities (in GF-land, this includes things like their blog, wikis, internal organizational groups, etc.). I thought I'd broach the subject here -- should we adopt a similar policy, or at least initiate such a conversation? Even given the limited degree to which Code4Lib exists as a thing (pretty much the listserv, the wiki, and the main website) it seems likely that someone has experienced harassment in a sphere outside the conference; and if not, it's likely it will happen some day. It seems like it would be good to have something in place that outlines our values and expectations in this space. Have other folks thought about this or discussed it at all? Has a similar conversation occurred that I missed? (If so, I apologize for overlooking it!) What questions do we need to address to think about what will work best for our community? What opinions do people have on the value of such a document? One potential challenge that exists for C4L is its lack of formal structure. GF has an Anti-Abuse Team and other standing entities that provide structure and continuity to the ongoing existence of the community. Code4Lib has always avoided having any continuous, formal structures or bylaws of this sort, and in general the community seems to value its relatively anarchic state. But it might be hard to reconcile our lack of formal organizational structure with such a document, especially if/when it comes time to enforce the policy. (I don't know if that's a valid justification for not having a policy though!) -dre. [1] http://geekfeminism.org/about/code-of-conduct/ [2] http://geekfeminism.org/2014/06/25/announcing-our-code-of-conduct/ [3] http://geekfeminism.org/2014/06/30/is-harassment-in-your-community-unwelcome-adopt-a-community-anti-harassment-policy/
Re: [CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy
I was under the impression that we had a code of conduct/anti-harassment policy in place for IRC and the mailing lists. Was this an incorrect impression? I am definitely in favor of adopting one, if there isn't one in place! Logistically, Geek Feminism is also not a formal organization--they were recently described as an anarchist collective--so I think we could follow their lead pretty easily. We could make a mail alias that goes to a ROTATING team/committee (this is very important; people burn out, dealing with these things for too long), for reporting purposes. IRC aliases are a thing, too, right? -coral
Re: [CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy
There exists a code at: https://github.com/code4lib/antiharassment-policy/blob/master/code_of_conduct.md I believe it applies here. cheers stuart On 07/03/2014 12:54 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess wrote: I was under the impression that we had a code of conduct/anti-harassment policy in place for IRC and the mailing lists. Was this an incorrect impression? I am definitely in favor of adopting one, if there isn't one in place! Logistically, Geek Feminism is also not a formal organization--they were recently described as an anarchist collective--so I think we could follow their lead pretty easily. We could make a mail alias that goes to a ROTATING team/committee (this is very important; people burn out, dealing with these things for too long), for reporting purposes. IRC aliases are a thing, too, right? -coral
Re: [CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy
My cursory web search came up with the one that was developed for the most recent conference, but it's not clear to me what the breadth of the document is supposed to include. I think it was applied to the IRC channel during the conference, but if it was written specifically as a conference policy, it's probably worth revisiting to ensure that it covers everything needed community-wide outside of conference time as well. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess co...@sheldon-hess.org wrote: I was under the impression that we had a code of conduct/anti-harassment policy in place for IRC and the mailing lists. Was this an incorrect impression? I am definitely in favor of adopting one, if there isn't one in place! Logistically, Geek Feminism is also not a formal organization--they were recently described as an anarchist collective--so I think we could follow their lead pretty easily. We could make a mail alias that goes to a ROTATING team/committee (this is very important; people burn out, dealing with these things for too long), for reporting purposes. IRC aliases are a thing, too, right? -coral
Re: [CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy
In particular, we'd need to think about how to shape the sanctions section, including things like: - What's an appropriate sanction in non-conference setting X? - Who is empowered to enact sanctions? - If a participant feels they have been harassed, who do they contact and how? - possibly other stuff? I think the conflict resolution part is in better shape, though it would need a little cleanup for more universal (i.e., not conference-specific) language. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote: My cursory web search came up with the one that was developed for the most recent conference, but it's not clear to me what the breadth of the document is supposed to include. I think it was applied to the IRC channel during the conference, but if it was written specifically as a conference policy, it's probably worth revisiting to ensure that it covers everything needed community-wide outside of conference time as well. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess co...@sheldon-hess.org wrote: I was under the impression that we had a code of conduct/anti-harassment policy in place for IRC and the mailing lists. Was this an incorrect impression? I am definitely in favor of adopting one, if there isn't one in place! Logistically, Geek Feminism is also not a formal organization--they were recently described as an anarchist collective--so I think we could follow their lead pretty easily. We could make a mail alias that goes to a ROTATING team/committee (this is very important; people burn out, dealing with these things for too long), for reporting purposes. IRC aliases are a thing, too, right? -coral
Re: [CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy
As I recall, the community discussion surrounding the CodeOfConduct4Lib intended to make its application broader than in-person events such as the conferences. Since Coral described Geek Feminism as an anarchist collective (sounding very similar to Code4Lib in that respect), I went to read their Code of Conduct with an eye towards how they apply sanctions to a community without boundaries of who can participate. After all, it is one thing to have the power to expel someone from a physical meeting venue; it is quite another to try to expel someone from a virtual space with self-selected aliases and e-mail addresses. The GF sanctions part reads: Consequences Participants asked to stop any harassing behavior are expected to comply immediately. If a participant engages in harassing behavior, the Geek Feminism Anti-Abuse Team may take any action they deem appropriate, up to and including expulsion from all Geek Feminism spaces and identification of the participant as a harasser to other GF members or the general public. I think that is probably the best we could do in Code4Lib spaces as well. What I do like about the GF statement is the inclusion of a “Anti-Abuse Team” with rotating representatives. We have the designated conference representatives and the @helpers on the IRC channel, but having a team that crosses all spaces would help provide strength in cohesiveness. I presume there is also a manual of practices that the team follows to investigate reports. (If there is, I’d like to adopt and adapt that, too.) Peter On Jul 2, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote: In particular, we'd need to think about how to shape the sanctions section, including things like: - What's an appropriate sanction in non-conference setting X? - Who is empowered to enact sanctions? - If a participant feels they have been harassed, who do they contact and how? - possibly other stuff? I think the conflict resolution part is in better shape, though it would need a little cleanup for more universal (i.e., not conference-specific) language. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote: My cursory web search came up with the one that was developed for the most recent conference, but it's not clear to me what the breadth of the document is supposed to include. I think it was applied to the IRC channel during the conference, but if it was written specifically as a conference policy, it's probably worth revisiting to ensure that it covers everything needed community-wide outside of conference time as well. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess co...@sheldon-hess.org wrote: I was under the impression that we had a code of conduct/anti-harassment policy in place for IRC and the mailing lists. Was this an incorrect impression? I am definitely in favor of adopting one, if there isn't one in place! Logistically, Geek Feminism is also not a formal organization--they were recently described as an anarchist collective--so I think we could follow their lead pretty easily. We could make a mail alias that goes to a ROTATING team/committee (this is very important; people burn out, dealing with these things for too long), for reporting purposes. IRC aliases are a thing, too, right? -coral -- Peter Murray Assistant Director, Technology Services Development LYRASIS peter.mur...@lyrasis.org +1 678-235-2955 800.999.8558 x2955
Re: [CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy
It seems to me that the Antiharassment Policy on GitHub covers more than just conference cases; Conflict Resolution #2 specifically mentions IRC and the listserv. Though in places it's a bit focused on the conference (e.g. the contact information section under Sanctions). Perhaps the right thing to do would be to reword the policy with broader scope? Having a full-time Antiharassment Team also seems like a good idea, then there's a consistent contact whether an incident occurs at a conference or online. Best, Eric On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Peter Murray peter.mur...@lyrasis.org wrote: As I recall, the community discussion surrounding the CodeOfConduct4Lib intended to make its application broader than in-person events such as the conferences. Since Coral described Geek Feminism as an anarchist collective (sounding very similar to Code4Lib in that respect), I went to read their Code of Conduct with an eye towards how they apply sanctions to a community without boundaries of who can participate. After all, it is one thing to have the power to expel someone from a physical meeting venue; it is quite another to try to expel someone from a virtual space with self-selected aliases and e-mail addresses. The GF sanctions part reads: Consequences Participants asked to stop any harassing behavior are expected to comply immediately. If a participant engages in harassing behavior, the Geek Feminism Anti-Abuse Team may take any action they deem appropriate, up to and including expulsion from all Geek Feminism spaces and identification of the participant as a harasser to other GF members or the general public. I think that is probably the best we could do in Code4Lib spaces as well. What I do like about the GF statement is the inclusion of a “Anti-Abuse Team” with rotating representatives. We have the designated conference representatives and the @helpers on the IRC channel, but having a team that crosses all spaces would help provide strength in cohesiveness. I presume there is also a manual of practices that the team follows to investigate reports. (If there is, I’d like to adopt and adapt that, too.) Peter On Jul 2, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote: In particular, we'd need to think about how to shape the sanctions section, including things like: - What's an appropriate sanction in non-conference setting X? - Who is empowered to enact sanctions? - If a participant feels they have been harassed, who do they contact and how? - possibly other stuff? I think the conflict resolution part is in better shape, though it would need a little cleanup for more universal (i.e., not conference-specific) language. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote: My cursory web search came up with the one that was developed for the most recent conference, but it's not clear to me what the breadth of the document is supposed to include. I think it was applied to the IRC channel during the conference, but if it was written specifically as a conference policy, it's probably worth revisiting to ensure that it covers everything needed community-wide outside of conference time as well. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess co...@sheldon-hess.org wrote: I was under the impression that we had a code of conduct/anti-harassment policy in place for IRC and the mailing lists. Was this an incorrect impression? I am definitely in favor of adopting one, if there isn't one in place! Logistically, Geek Feminism is also not a formal organization--they were recently described as an anarchist collective--so I think we could follow their lead pretty easily. We could make a mail alias that goes to a ROTATING team/committee (this is very important; people burn out, dealing with these things for too long), for reporting purposes. IRC aliases are a thing, too, right? -coral -- Peter Murray Assistant Director, Technology Services Development LYRASIS peter.mur...@lyrasis.org +1 678-235-2955 800.999.8558 x2955
Re: [CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy
Sanctions, block in IRC? That would require mods or chanserv, right? Temporary ban from mailing list? I think it should be a rotating group of 10 people who vote on this, randomly picked (everyone gets a number and a program picks 10?) to eliminate politics of any sort, of course 10 is arbitrary. I think an arbitrator should randomly be selected from the 10 on a case by case basis? Just a few suggestions... And what is harassment? It can only be defined to a point, it is really on an individual level, the person being harassed defines it. Riley Childs Student Asst. Head of IT Services Charlotte United Christian Academy (704) 497-2086 RileyChilds.net Sent from my Windows Phone, please excuse mistakes From: Andreas Orphanidesmailto:akorp...@ncsu.edu Sent: 7/2/2014 9:34 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDUmailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Community anti-harassment policy In particular, we'd need to think about how to shape the sanctions section, including things like: - What's an appropriate sanction in non-conference setting X? - Who is empowered to enact sanctions? - If a participant feels they have been harassed, who do they contact and how? - possibly other stuff? I think the conflict resolution part is in better shape, though it would need a little cleanup for more universal (i.e., not conference-specific) language. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Andreas Orphanides akorp...@ncsu.edu wrote: My cursory web search came up with the one that was developed for the most recent conference, but it's not clear to me what the breadth of the document is supposed to include. I think it was applied to the IRC channel during the conference, but if it was written specifically as a conference policy, it's probably worth revisiting to ensure that it covers everything needed community-wide outside of conference time as well. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess co...@sheldon-hess.org wrote: I was under the impression that we had a code of conduct/anti-harassment policy in place for IRC and the mailing lists. Was this an incorrect impression? I am definitely in favor of adopting one, if there isn't one in place! Logistically, Geek Feminism is also not a formal organization--they were recently described as an anarchist collective--so I think we could follow their lead pretty easily. We could make a mail alias that goes to a ROTATING team/committee (this is very important; people burn out, dealing with these things for too long), for reporting purposes. IRC aliases are a thing, too, right? -coral
