[CODE4LIB] anti-harassment policy suggestion

2012-11-30 Thread Karen Coyle

Here's the current first paragraph:

Code4Lib is dedicated to providing a harassment-free community 
experience for everyone. We do not tolerate harassment in any form. 
Discriminatory language and imagery (including sexual) is not 
appropriate for any event venue, including talks, or any community 
channel such as the chatroom or mailing list. Participants at any 
Code4Lib event or in any community channel violating these rules should 
expect to be sanctioned, expelled, or banned at the discretion of the 
organizers or channel administrators or volunteers. Reports of 
harassment will be addressed immediately.


It feels heavy-handed to me. My first suggestion is that right after 
saying that that we don't tolerate harassmente (sentences 1  2) and 
define what we mean (sentence 3) I think the next thing to say is that 
we encourage anyone who is made uncomfortable or sees what appears to be 
harassment taking place to speak up in the venue in which it is happening.


The geekfeminism statement is:

 If you are being harassed, notice that someone else is being harassed, 
or have any other concerns, please contact a member of conference staff 
immediately. 


We'd need to change that wording because there isn't always someone we 
could call staff -- I prefer some wording about speaking up making 
it be known to ... ? (This is where I crap out because I can't really 
quite figure out what you should do, for example, on IRC other than 
speak out to the list.)


kc


On 11/30/12 9:07 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:
Wow. We could not have gotten a better follow-up to our long thread 
about coders and non-coders.


I don't git. I've used it to read code, but never contributed. I even 
downloaded a gui with a cute icon that is supposed to make it easy, 
and it still is going to take some learning.


So I'm afraid that it either needs to be on a different platform for 
editing, OR someone (you know, the famed someone) is going to have 
to do updates for us non-gitters.


kc

On 11/30/12 7:36 AM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote:

All,

Please feel free to make the changes you'd like to see and then submit a
pull request.  I have added instructions for how to do this in the 
README:


https://github.com/code4lib/antiharassment-policy

I say this not to shame anyone in the jerky patches welcome! sense, 
but
as an acknowledgement that the way shiz gets done in code4lib is for 
each

of us to take individual initiative.  You're all empowered to do so.  I
look forward to seeing your changes in the repo.

-Mike



On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Tim Spalding t...@librarything.com 
wrote:



I'd support removing or somehow couching language about any organizer,
including any volunteer, immediately ending a talk.

All the other sanctions seem to involve the likelihood of deliberation
involving some time and multiple people, and some possibility of a
misunderstanding being cleared up. I don't think a single 
volunteer—who, in

theory, is granted the power to ban someone for life!—is going to ban
someone or refuse to post a talk online without thinking about it for a
while and involving other organizers.

By their nature, however, something said in the middle of a talk 
doesn't

admit of much in the way of deliberation between organizers, or time to
deliberate, and you can't really finish a talk ended by someone if 
other
organizers persuade the volunteer that they made a mistake. The 
action has
to be taken quickly, by someone who hasn't talked it through with 
others

and is largely irreversible. It's a recipe for controversy and
disagreement, and potential unfairness.

I propose that the right reaction to an offensive talk is for people to
walk out of it while it's going on, and to deal with any sanctions 
required

AFTER the talk is over, when there's time and space to get the decision
right.

Sincerely,

Tim Spalding
LibraryThing





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Re: [CODE4LIB] anti-harassment policy suggestion

2012-11-30 Thread Abigail Goben
Access refers it to the conference organizers, though that I think is 
more structured for that conference.


http://accessconference.ca/about/

On 11/30/2012 11:19 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:
We'd need to change that wording because there isn't always someone we 
could call staff -- I prefer some wording about speaking up 
making it be known to ... ? (This is where I crap out because I 
can't really quite figure out what you should do, for example, on IRC 
other than speak out to the list.) 



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University of Illinois at Chicago
Library of the Health Sciences - Chicago (M/C 763)
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Chicago, Illinois 60612
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Re: [CODE4LIB] anti-harassment policy suggestion

2012-11-30 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
Karen,

You can review a first pass here:
https://github.com/anarchivist/antiharassment-policy/commit/9f304420f42b6f73938f8bb3176ef42fd7cea0e0

In short, I have added another sentence to the end of the first
paragraph: If you are being harassed, notice that someone else is
being harassed, or have any other concerns, please *speak up* and/or
contact an event organizer or a 'Code4lib helper' in IRC immediately.

Mark


Re: [CODE4LIB] anti-harassment policy suggestion

2012-11-30 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
Note that almost exactly the same sentence is already located a paragraph
or two below that one.  I leave it to y'all to decide which wording and
which location  you like best, but we should probably strike one of them.

-Mike

On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Mark A. Matienzo
mark.matie...@gmail.comwrote:

 Karen,

 You can review a first pass here:

 https://github.com/anarchivist/antiharassment-policy/commit/9f304420f42b6f73938f8bb3176ef42fd7cea0e0

 In short, I have added another sentence to the end of the first
 paragraph: If you are being harassed, notice that someone else is
 being harassed, or have any other concerns, please *speak up* and/or
 contact an event organizer or a 'Code4lib helper' in IRC immediately.

 Mark