Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
As someone who's never been to Code4Lib, really wants to go, tried on Black Wednesday but unfortunately had meetings all morning that prevented her from getting to it until it was too late-- When do wait list people usually find out they're in, if they get in? Plane reservations get more expensive as time goes on, and much as I love cross-country driving, February's not the best time for it. Wondering if I should gamble now... Laura Laura Akerman Technology and Metadata Librarian Room 128, Robert W. Woodruff Library Emory University, Atlanta, Ga. 30322 (404) 727-6888 lib...@emory.edu -Original Message- From: Cary Gordon [mailto:listu...@chillco.com] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:32 PM Subject: Re: conference voting and registration While I understand your frustration, I have come around to accepting the system we have. Many of the folks who attend every year hold the conference as one of their key annual events, and plan to register the instant that tickets become available. I know that it sells out fast, but the folks who are there on the dot pretty much always get in. The alternative, of course is to present, although that can be rolling the dice, or volunteer, which I did this year. If you are on the waiting list, bear in mind that plans frequently change, and waiting list requests often get filled. Cary -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments).
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
Elizabeth is out, so I'll have to substitute for a straight from the horse's mouth answer for now. Everyone who's in has been informed, so if you haven't heard that you're in by now, no news is unfortunately bad news. One topic that would probably be worth discussing for future conferences would be the registration process as the current one only worked for people who knew to expect a mad rush and were available during a very specific window. Seems like a lottery or some other mechanism may have done a better job of being fair and making the event accessible to a diverse group. kyle On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Akerman, Laura lib...@emory.edu wrote: As someone who's never been to Code4Lib, really wants to go, tried on Black Wednesday but unfortunately had meetings all morning that prevented her from getting to it until it was too late-- When do wait list people usually find out they're in, if they get in? Plane reservations get more expensive as time goes on, and much as I love cross-country driving, February's not the best time for it. Wondering if I should gamble now... Laura Laura Akerman Technology and Metadata Librarian Room 128, Robert W. Woodruff Library Emory University, Atlanta, Ga. 30322 (404) 727-6888 lib...@emory.edu -Original Message- From: Cary Gordon [mailto:listu...@chillco.com] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:32 PM Subject: Re: conference voting and registration While I understand your frustration, I have come around to accepting the system we have. Many of the folks who attend every year hold the conference as one of their key annual events, and plan to register the instant that tickets become available. I know that it sells out fast, but the folks who are there on the dot pretty much always get in. The alternative, of course is to present, although that can be rolling the dice, or volunteer, which I did this year. If you are on the waiting list, bear in mind that plans frequently change, and waiting list requests often get filled. Cary -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). -- -- Kyle Banerjee Digital Services Program Manager Orbis Cascade Alliance baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
If you really, positively, absolutely have to be at Code4Lib, volunteer. Cary On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Kyle Banerjee baner...@uoregon.edu wrote: Elizabeth is out, so I'll have to substitute for a straight from the horse's mouth answer for now. Everyone who's in has been informed, so if you haven't heard that you're in by now, no news is unfortunately bad news. One topic that would probably be worth discussing for future conferences would be the registration process as the current one only worked for people who knew to expect a mad rush and were available during a very specific window. Seems like a lottery or some other mechanism may have done a better job of being fair and making the event accessible to a diverse group. kyle On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Akerman, Laura lib...@emory.edu wrote: As someone who's never been to Code4Lib, really wants to go, tried on Black Wednesday but unfortunately had meetings all morning that prevented her from getting to it until it was too late-- When do wait list people usually find out they're in, if they get in? Plane reservations get more expensive as time goes on, and much as I love cross-country driving, February's not the best time for it. Wondering if I should gamble now... Laura Laura Akerman Technology and Metadata Librarian Room 128, Robert W. Woodruff Library Emory University, Atlanta, Ga. 30322 (404) 727-6888 lib...@emory.edu -Original Message- From: Cary Gordon [mailto:listu...@chillco.com] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:32 PM Subject: Re: conference voting and registration While I understand your frustration, I have come around to accepting the system we have. Many of the folks who attend every year hold the conference as one of their key annual events, and plan to register the instant that tickets become available. I know that it sells out fast, but the folks who are there on the dot pretty much always get in. The alternative, of course is to present, although that can be rolling the dice, or volunteer, which I did this year. If you are on the waiting list, bear in mind that plans frequently change, and waiting list requests often get filled. Cary -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). -- -- Kyle Banerjee Digital Services Program Manager Orbis Cascade Alliance baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773 -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
If there is this much interest why not pick bigger venues? I have beenfollowing this conversation for weeks and wondered why that hadn't already happened. - Wilfred (Bill) Drew, M.S., B.S., A.S. Assistant Professor Librarian, Systems and Tech Services Tompkins Cortland Community College (TC3) Library: http://www.tc3.edu/library/ Dryden, N.Y. 13053-0139 E-mail: dr...@tc3.edu Phone: 607-844-8222 ext.4406 AOL Instant Messenger:BillDrew4 Online Identity: http://claimID.com/billdrew StrengthsQuest: Ideation, Input, Learner, Activator, Communication http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill_Drew/ From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kyle Banerjee [baner...@uoregon.edu] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 5:48 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration Elizabeth is out, so I'll have to substitute for a straight from the horse's mouth answer for now. Everyone who's in has been informed, so if you haven't heard that you're in by now, no news is unfortunately bad news. One topic that would probably be worth discussing for future conferences would be the registration process as the current one only worked for people who knew to expect a mad rush and were available during a very specific window. Seems like a lottery or some other mechanism may have done a better job of being fair and making the event accessible to a diverse group. kyle On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Akerman, Laura lib...@emory.edu wrote: As someone who's never been to Code4Lib, really wants to go, tried on Black Wednesday but unfortunately had meetings all morning that prevented her from getting to it until it was too late-- When do wait list people usually find out they're in, if they get in? Plane reservations get more expensive as time goes on, and much as I love cross-country driving, February's not the best time for it. Wondering if I should gamble now... Laura Laura Akerman Technology and Metadata Librarian Room 128, Robert W. Woodruff Library Emory University, Atlanta, Ga. 30322 (404) 727-6888 lib...@emory.edu -Original Message- From: Cary Gordon [mailto:listu...@chillco.com] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:32 PM Subject: Re: conference voting and registration While I understand your frustration, I have come around to accepting the system we have. Many of the folks who attend every year hold the conference as one of their key annual events, and plan to register the instant that tickets become available. I know that it sells out fast, but the folks who are there on the dot pretty much always get in. The alternative, of course is to present, although that can be rolling the dice, or volunteer, which I did this year. If you are on the waiting list, bear in mind that plans frequently change, and waiting list requests often get filled. Cary -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.comhttp://chillco.com/ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). -- -- Kyle Banerjee Digital Services Program Manager Orbis Cascade Alliance baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
On 12/15/11 5:01 PM, Wilfred Drew wrote: If there is this much interest why not pick bigger venues? I have beenfollowing this conversation for weeks and wondered why that hadn't already happened. Bigger usually means more costly. Administrative, Space, Bandwidth etc., I have only been to a one of these before and the principal attraction for me was precisely that. A small conference where if I needed to corner someone I listened to a talk it only took gathering all my social skills I've accumulated over time and... who am I kidding. It was extremely easy because (in part perhaps) of the intimate setting. Perhaps it has reached a point where regional ones will be the way to go as more and more people get left out. I say if you get left out. Plan to run your $local code4lib to make up for it. ;-) ./fxk -- TFMotD: Archive::Tar (3p) - module for manipulations of tar archives
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
I'm confused, what type of volunteering guarantees you a spot? I can think of being a part of the hosting committee (maybe?), sponsorship, or having a talk proposal accepted. Ryan Wick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:59 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration If you really, positively, absolutely have to be at Code4Lib, volunteer. Cary On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Kyle Banerjee baner...@uoregon.edu wrote: Elizabeth is out, so I'll have to substitute for a straight from the horse's mouth answer for now. Everyone who's in has been informed, so if you haven't heard that you're in by now, no news is unfortunately bad news. One topic that would probably be worth discussing for future conferences would be the registration process as the current one only worked for people who knew to expect a mad rush and were available during a very specific window. Seems like a lottery or some other mechanism may have done a better job of being fair and making the event accessible to a diverse group. kyle On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Akerman, Laura lib...@emory.edu wrote: As someone who's never been to Code4Lib, really wants to go, tried on Black Wednesday but unfortunately had meetings all morning that prevented her from getting to it until it was too late-- When do wait list people usually find out they're in, if they get in? Plane reservations get more expensive as time goes on, and much as I love cross-country driving, February's not the best time for it. Wondering if I should gamble now... Laura Laura Akerman Technology and Metadata Librarian Room 128, Robert W. Woodruff Library Emory University, Atlanta, Ga. 30322 (404) 727-6888 lib...@emory.edu -Original Message- From: Cary Gordon [mailto:listu...@chillco.com] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:32 PM Subject: Re: conference voting and registration While I understand your frustration, I have come around to accepting the system we have. Many of the folks who attend every year hold the conference as one of their key annual events, and plan to register the instant that tickets become available. I know that it sells out fast, but the folks who are there on the dot pretty much always get in. The alternative, of course is to present, although that can be rolling the dice, or volunteer, which I did this year. If you are on the waiting list, bear in mind that plans frequently change, and waiting list requests often get filled. Cary -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). -- -- Kyle Banerjee Digital Services Program Manager Orbis Cascade Alliance baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773 -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Francis Kayiwa kay...@uic.edu wrote: On 12/15/11 5:01 PM, Wilfred Drew wrote: If there is this much interest why not pick bigger venues? I have beenfollowing this conversation for weeks and wondered why that hadn't already happened. Bigger usually means more costly. Administrative, Space, Bandwidth etc., Correct. Cost on a per capita basis is significantly higher because the number of places that have this kind of capacity is limited. Although this is a community undertaking, the sponsoring institution/organization has to absorb the financial risk. As the penalties of guessing incorrectly are a function of size, it's not as simple as just getting a venue that can handle 500 people. kyle -- -- Kyle Banerjee Digital Services Program Manager Orbis Cascade Alliance baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
On 12/15/2011 6:07 PM, Francis Kayiwa wrote: Perhaps it has reached a point where regional ones will be the way to go as more and more people get left out. I say if you get left out. Plan to run your $local code4lib to make up for it. Yep, that'd be the party line. You know Code4Lib was started only, what, 6 years ago, by a bunch of random coders who just said Hey, let's put on a conference, why not? It's gotten harder to put on since then, but the first one was pretty seat of the pants (I understand, I wasn't there, although i was at the 2nd). If you're unhappy that you can't get into code4lib, start your own that you can get into!
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
Pretty much any volunteer position guarantees you a spot. It is up to the organizers to figure out what they need help with. Cary On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Wick, Ryan ryan.w...@oregonstate.edu wrote: I'm confused, what type of volunteering guarantees you a spot? I can think of being a part of the hosting committee (maybe?), sponsorship, or having a talk proposal accepted. Ryan Wick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:59 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration If you really, positively, absolutely have to be at Code4Lib, volunteer. Cary On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Kyle Banerjee baner...@uoregon.edu wrote: Elizabeth is out, so I'll have to substitute for a straight from the horse's mouth answer for now. Everyone who's in has been informed, so if you haven't heard that you're in by now, no news is unfortunately bad news. One topic that would probably be worth discussing for future conferences would be the registration process as the current one only worked for people who knew to expect a mad rush and were available during a very specific window. Seems like a lottery or some other mechanism may have done a better job of being fair and making the event accessible to a diverse group. kyle On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Akerman, Laura lib...@emory.edu wrote: As someone who's never been to Code4Lib, really wants to go, tried on Black Wednesday but unfortunately had meetings all morning that prevented her from getting to it until it was too late-- When do wait list people usually find out they're in, if they get in? Plane reservations get more expensive as time goes on, and much as I love cross-country driving, February's not the best time for it. Wondering if I should gamble now... Laura Laura Akerman Technology and Metadata Librarian Room 128, Robert W. Woodruff Library Emory University, Atlanta, Ga. 30322 (404) 727-6888 lib...@emory.edu -Original Message- From: Cary Gordon [mailto:listu...@chillco.com] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:32 PM Subject: Re: conference voting and registration While I understand your frustration, I have come around to accepting the system we have. Many of the folks who attend every year hold the conference as one of their key annual events, and plan to register the instant that tickets become available. I know that it sells out fast, but the folks who are there on the dot pretty much always get in. The alternative, of course is to present, although that can be rolling the dice, or volunteer, which I did this year. If you are on the waiting list, bear in mind that plans frequently change, and waiting list requests often get filled. Cary -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). -- -- Kyle Banerjee Digital Services Program Manager Orbis Cascade Alliance baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773 -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
On 12/15/2011 6:32 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: Pretty much any volunteer position guarantees you a spot. It is up to the organizers to figure out what they need help with. I do not think this is true. Pretty sure Kyle just said as much for this year. I don't think it's been true in past years either. But I think the old record for selling out was 4 days, not one hour, so anyone involved in volunteering probably just signed up the usual way and got in in the past.
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
Umm, no volunteering does not guarantee attendance. Neither member of the tshirt committee is attending and one is from the hosting institution. Unless you mean volunteering for the actual conference. Ann On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote: Pretty much any volunteer position guarantees you a spot. It is up to the organizers to figure out what they need help with. Cary On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Wick, Ryan ryan.w...@oregonstate.edu wrote: I'm confused, what type of volunteering guarantees you a spot? I can think of being a part of the hosting committee (maybe?), sponsorship, or having a talk proposal accepted. Ryan Wick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:59 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration If you really, positively, absolutely have to be at Code4Lib, volunteer. Cary On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Kyle Banerjee baner...@uoregon.edu wrote: Elizabeth is out, so I'll have to substitute for a straight from the horse's mouth answer for now. Everyone who's in has been informed, so if you haven't heard that you're in by now, no news is unfortunately bad news. One topic that would probably be worth discussing for future conferences would be the registration process as the current one only worked for people who knew to expect a mad rush and were available during a very specific window. Seems like a lottery or some other mechanism may have done a better job of being fair and making the event accessible to a diverse group. kyle On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Akerman, Laura lib...@emory.edu wrote: As someone who's never been to Code4Lib, really wants to go, tried on Black Wednesday but unfortunately had meetings all morning that prevented her from getting to it until it was too late-- When do wait list people usually find out they're in, if they get in? Plane reservations get more expensive as time goes on, and much as I love cross-country driving, February's not the best time for it. Wondering if I should gamble now... Laura Laura Akerman Technology and Metadata Librarian Room 128, Robert W. Woodruff Library Emory University, Atlanta, Ga. 30322 (404) 727-6888 lib...@emory.edu -Original Message- From: Cary Gordon [mailto:listu...@chillco.com] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:32 PM Subject: Re: conference voting and registration While I understand your frustration, I have come around to accepting the system we have. Many of the folks who attend every year hold the conference as one of their key annual events, and plan to register the instant that tickets become available. I know that it sells out fast, but the folks who are there on the dot pretty much always get in. The alternative, of course is to present, although that can be rolling the dice, or volunteer, which I did this year. If you are on the waiting list, bear in mind that plans frequently change, and waiting list requests often get filled. Cary -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). -- -- Kyle Banerjee Digital Services Program Manager Orbis Cascade Alliance baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773 -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
On Dec 15, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: On 12/15/2011 6:32 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: Pretty much any volunteer position guarantees you a spot. It is up to the organizers to figure out what they need help with. I do not think this is true. Pretty sure Kyle just said as much for this year. I don't think it's been true in past years either. But I think the old record for selling out was 4 days, not one hour, so anyone involved in volunteering probably just signed up the usual way and got in in the past. 'tis true. Several of us from the sponsoring library didn't get in and we're all doing some work w/ the event planning. --Jennifer
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: On 12/15/2011 6:07 PM, Francis Kayiwa wrote: as more and more people get left out. I say if you get left out. Plan to run your $local code4lib to make up for it. ... If you're unhappy that you can't get into code4lib, start your own that you can get into! This seems like a great idea. Is it legit to use the code4lib name, logo, wiki, and existing web resources to organize and run local events? Kam
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
Sure. You can see what other local/regional groups have done before: http://code4lib.org/local Also: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#Local_.2F_Regional_Groups Ryan Wick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kam Woods Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:29 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: On 12/15/2011 6:07 PM, Francis Kayiwa wrote: as more and more people get left out. I say if you get left out. Plan to run your $local code4lib to make up for it. ... If you're unhappy that you can't get into code4lib, start your own that you can get into! This seems like a great idea. Is it legit to use the code4lib name, logo, wiki, and existing web resources to organize and run local events? Kam
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
Cary, I don't remember this ever being the case. Can someone confirm this practice for this or any other year? (There are dozens of volunteers -- surely they didn't all get guaranteed spots, just for putting their names on a wiki?) AFAIK, there are two ways to get into a code4lib conference: 1) give a talk/pre-conf, or 2) register. -Mike On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 18:32, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote: Pretty much any volunteer position guarantees you a spot. It is up to the organizers to figure out what they need help with. Cary On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Wick, Ryan ryan.w...@oregonstate.edu wrote: I'm confused, what type of volunteering guarantees you a spot? I can think of being a part of the hosting committee (maybe?), sponsorship, or having a talk proposal accepted. Ryan Wick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:59 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration If you really, positively, absolutely have to be at Code4Lib, volunteer. Cary On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Kyle Banerjee baner...@uoregon.edu wrote: Elizabeth is out, so I'll have to substitute for a straight from the horse's mouth answer for now. Everyone who's in has been informed, so if you haven't heard that you're in by now, no news is unfortunately bad news. One topic that would probably be worth discussing for future conferences would be the registration process as the current one only worked for people who knew to expect a mad rush and were available during a very specific window. Seems like a lottery or some other mechanism may have done a better job of being fair and making the event accessible to a diverse group. kyle On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Akerman, Laura lib...@emory.edu wrote: As someone who's never been to Code4Lib, really wants to go, tried on Black Wednesday but unfortunately had meetings all morning that prevented her from getting to it until it was too late-- When do wait list people usually find out they're in, if they get in? Plane reservations get more expensive as time goes on, and much as I love cross-country driving, February's not the best time for it. Wondering if I should gamble now... Laura Laura Akerman Technology and Metadata Librarian Room 128, Robert W. Woodruff Library Emory University, Atlanta, Ga. 30322 (404) 727-6888 lib...@emory.edu -Original Message- From: Cary Gordon [mailto:listu...@chillco.com] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:32 PM Subject: Re: conference voting and registration While I understand your frustration, I have come around to accepting the system we have. Many of the folks who attend every year hold the conference as one of their key annual events, and plan to register the instant that tickets become available. I know that it sells out fast, but the folks who are there on the dot pretty much always get in. The alternative, of course is to present, although that can be rolling the dice, or volunteer, which I did this year. If you are on the waiting list, bear in mind that plans frequently change, and waiting list requests often get filled. Cary -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). -- -- Kyle Banerjee Digital Services Program Manager Orbis Cascade Alliance baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773 -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
Thanks! I don't see a group for south/southeast US yet. Something maybe I can help with. Also (related), we have have various people who are code4lib veterans coming to CurateGear in Chapel Hill on Jan 6 - registration is inexpensive and still open for anyone who wants to participate (especially those nearby). http://cfx.research.unc.edu/res_classreg/browse_single.cfm?New=1event=0BF752F1B4AAAFBDA9ADD3FBB8F60650B71FD2AB \shamelessplug Kam On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Wick, Ryan ryan.w...@oregonstate.edu wrote: Sure. You can see what other local/regional groups have done before: http://code4lib.org/local Also: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#Local_.2F_Regional_Groups Ryan Wick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kam Woods Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:29 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: On 12/15/2011 6:07 PM, Francis Kayiwa wrote: as more and more people get left out. I say if you get left out. Plan to run your $local code4lib to make up for it. ... If you're unhappy that you can't get into code4lib, start your own that you can get into! This seems like a great idea. Is it legit to use the code4lib name, logo, wiki, and existing web resources to organize and run local events? Kam
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
*jumps in a little late* It's totally cool to use the name and localize it. We've run a couple of really successful c4l north's up here in Canadaland. It provides a great opportunity to expose folks to the community, network (natch as adr would say), and provide a venue for professional development. Confidence building, and hanging out really amazing with like minded people at its best! -nruest On 2011-12-15, at 20:09, Kam Woods kamwo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! I don't see a group for south/southeast US yet. Something maybe I can help with. Also (related), we have have various people who are code4lib veterans coming to CurateGear in Chapel Hill on Jan 6 - registration is inexpensive and still open for anyone who wants to participate (especially those nearby). http://cfx.research.unc.edu/res_classreg/browse_single.cfm?New=1event=0BF752F1B4AAAFBDA9ADD3FBB8F60650B71FD2AB \shamelessplug Kam On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Wick, Ryan ryan.w...@oregonstate.edu wrote: Sure. You can see what other local/regional groups have done before: http://code4lib.org/local Also: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#Local_.2F_Regional_Groups Ryan Wick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kam Woods Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:29 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: On 12/15/2011 6:07 PM, Francis Kayiwa wrote: as more and more people get left out. I say if you get left out. Plan to run your $local code4lib to make up for it. ... If you're unhappy that you can't get into code4lib, start your own that you can get into! This seems like a great idea. Is it legit to use the code4lib name, logo, wiki, and existing web resources to organize and run local events? Kam
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
I seem to recall a statement to that effect that folks who volunteered time -- not just put their names on a wiki -- from the organizing committee some months ago. I don't think that it would be fair to expect that someone would spend half a day at a registration table and not allow to buy a ticket. Cary On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Michael J. Giarlo leftw...@alumni.rutgers.edu wrote: Cary, I don't remember this ever being the case. Can someone confirm this practice for this or any other year? (There are dozens of volunteers -- surely they didn't all get guaranteed spots, just for putting their names on a wiki?) AFAIK, there are two ways to get into a code4lib conference: 1) give a talk/pre-conf, or 2) register. -Mike On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 18:32, Cary Gordon listu...@chillco.com wrote: Pretty much any volunteer position guarantees you a spot. It is up to the organizers to figure out what they need help with. Cary On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Wick, Ryan ryan.w...@oregonstate.edu wrote: I'm confused, what type of volunteering guarantees you a spot? I can think of being a part of the hosting committee (maybe?), sponsorship, or having a talk proposal accepted. Ryan Wick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:59 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration If you really, positively, absolutely have to be at Code4Lib, volunteer. Cary On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Kyle Banerjee baner...@uoregon.edu wrote: Elizabeth is out, so I'll have to substitute for a straight from the horse's mouth answer for now. Everyone who's in has been informed, so if you haven't heard that you're in by now, no news is unfortunately bad news. One topic that would probably be worth discussing for future conferences would be the registration process as the current one only worked for people who knew to expect a mad rush and were available during a very specific window. Seems like a lottery or some other mechanism may have done a better job of being fair and making the event accessible to a diverse group. kyle On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Akerman, Laura lib...@emory.edu wrote: As someone who's never been to Code4Lib, really wants to go, tried on Black Wednesday but unfortunately had meetings all morning that prevented her from getting to it until it was too late-- When do wait list people usually find out they're in, if they get in? Plane reservations get more expensive as time goes on, and much as I love cross-country driving, February's not the best time for it. Wondering if I should gamble now... Laura Laura Akerman Technology and Metadata Librarian Room 128, Robert W. Woodruff Library Emory University, Atlanta, Ga. 30322 (404) 727-6888 lib...@emory.edu -Original Message- From: Cary Gordon [mailto:listu...@chillco.com] Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:32 PM Subject: Re: conference voting and registration While I understand your frustration, I have come around to accepting the system we have. Many of the folks who attend every year hold the conference as one of their key annual events, and plan to register the instant that tickets become available. I know that it sells out fast, but the folks who are there on the dot pretty much always get in. The alternative, of course is to present, although that can be rolling the dice, or volunteer, which I did this year. If you are on the waiting list, bear in mind that plans frequently change, and waiting list requests often get filled. Cary -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). -- -- Kyle Banerjee Digital Services Program Manager Orbis Cascade Alliance baner...@uoregon.edu / 503.877.9773 -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
The appalachia group turned into a southeast group at one point, but it was never successful getting enough interest to have a local meetup in appalachia or the southeast. I have an interest in a regional southeast code4lib so I'd be glad to help out if someone else takes the lead... Thanks for reminding me about CurateGear! I've been approved for it by mpow but haven't filled out any paperwork yet (registration, etc.) Kevin On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Kam Woods kamwo...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! I don't see a group for south/southeast US yet. Something maybe I can help with. Also (related), we have have various people who are code4lib veterans coming to CurateGear in Chapel Hill on Jan 6 - registration is inexpensive and still open for anyone who wants to participate (especially those nearby). http://cfx.research.unc.edu/res_classreg/browse_single.cfm?New=1event=0BF752F1B4AAAFBDA9ADD3FBB8F60650B71FD2AB \shamelessplug Kam On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Wick, Ryan ryan.w...@oregonstate.edu wrote: Sure. You can see what other local/regional groups have done before: http://code4lib.org/local Also: http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/Main_Page#Local_.2F_Regional_Groups Ryan Wick -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kam Woods Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:29 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: On 12/15/2011 6:07 PM, Francis Kayiwa wrote: as more and more people get left out. I say if you get left out. Plan to run your $local code4lib to make up for it. ... If you're unhappy that you can't get into code4lib, start your own that you can get into! This seems like a great idea. Is it legit to use the code4lib name, logo, wiki, and existing web resources to organize and run local events? Kam
[CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: Last year we had 129 unique voters for the proposals, roughly unchanged from Asheville (119). Both cases FAR fewer than the number of delegates (and more importantly, the number of people that wanted to be delegates). Just a thought: If we ever wanted to move to a lottery-based registration for the conference, perhaps those who take time to cast votes for presentation proposals could be weighted slightly. Keith (who sadly missed out on the whole Black Wednesday rush for Code4Lib 2012)
Re: [CODE4LIB] conference voting and registration
While I understand your frustration, I have come around to accepting the system we have. Many of the folks who attend every year hold the conference as one of their key annual events, and plan to register the instant that tickets become available. I know that it sells out fast, but the folks who are there on the dot pretty much always get in. The alternative, of course is to present, although that can be rolling the dice, or volunteer, which I did this year. If you are on the waiting list, bear in mind that plans frequently change, and waiting list requests often get filled. Cary On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Keith Jenkins k...@cornell.edu wrote: On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote: Last year we had 129 unique voters for the proposals, roughly unchanged from Asheville (119). Both cases FAR fewer than the number of delegates (and more importantly, the number of people that wanted to be delegates). Just a thought: If we ever wanted to move to a lottery-based registration for the conference, perhaps those who take time to cast votes for presentation proposals could be weighted slightly. Keith (who sadly missed out on the whole Black Wednesday rush for Code4Lib 2012) -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
