Re: [CODE4LIB] thanks and poetry
At Sat, 16 Feb 2013 06:42:04 -0800, Karen Coyle wrote: gitHub may have excellent startup documentation, but that startup documentation describes git in programming terms mainly using *nx commands. If you have never had to use a version control system (e.g. if you do not write code, especially in a shared environment), clone push pull are very poorly described. The documentation is all in terms of *nx commands. Honestly, anything where this is in the documentation: On Windows systems, Git looks for the |.gitconfig| file in the |$HOME| directory (|%USERPROFILE%| in Windows’ environment), which is |C:\Documents and Settings\$USER| or |C:\Users\$USER| for most people, depending on version (|$USER| is |%USERNAME%| in Windows’ environment). is not going to work for anyone who doesn't work in Windows at the command line. No, git is NOT for non-coders. For what it’s worth, this programmer finds git’s interface pretty terrible. I prefer mercurial (hg), but I don’t know if it’s any better for people who aren’t familar with a command line. http://mercurial.selenic.com/guide/ (As a general rule, for every programmer who prefers tool A, and says that everybody should use it, there’s a programmer who disparages tool A, and advocates tool B. So take what we say with a grain of salt!) (And as a further aside, there’s plenty to dislike about github as well, from it’s person-centric view of projects (rather than team-centric) to its unfortunate centralizing of so much free/open source software on one platform.) best, Erik Sent from my free software system http://fsf.org/. pgpKhLEacXDgb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [CODE4LIB] thanks and poetry
gitHub may have excellent startup documentation, but that startup documentation describes git in programming terms mainly using *nx commands. If you have never had to use a version control system (e.g. if you do not write code, especially in a shared environment), clone push pull are very poorly described. The documentation is all in terms of *nx commands. Honestly, anything where this is in the documentation: On Windows systems, Git looks for the |.gitconfig| file in the |$HOME| directory (|%USERPROFILE%| in Windows’ environment), which is |C:\Documents and Settings\$USER| or |C:\Users\$USER| for most people, depending on version (|$USER| is |%USERNAME%| in Windows’ environment). is not going to work for anyone who doesn't work in Windows at the command line. No, git is NOT for non-coders. kc On 2/16/13 4:25 AM, Sharp, Chris wrote: - Original Message - From: Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:38:53 PM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] thanks and poetry (github unfortunately would be a barrier to many) GitHub fortunately has excellent startup documentation for new users: https://help.github.com/articles/set-up-git I recommend GitHub as an entry point to using git (or to coding for that matter). Hope that's helpful, Chris -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] thanks and poetry
I think Karen is right in essence. There *are* windows GUI clients. I haven't used them, and couldn't speak to how easy they are to setup, understand, and use. Something about Git (and GitHub) captures a hacker's spirit of sharing, cooperation, and even the oft missing openness to criticism. Take your bug reports and accept pull requests. My impulse is to want to share this with people who hack in other ways; through art, craft, culture, or otherwise. I'm not sure if we have the tools to do that in a way that is accessible, but Karen's right that the default tools aren't them. - Tom On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: gitHub may have excellent startup documentation, but that startup documentation describes git in programming terms mainly using *nx commands. If you have never had to use a version control system (e.g. if you do not write code, especially in a shared environment), clone push pull are very poorly described. The documentation is all in terms of *nx commands. Honestly, anything where this is in the documentation: On Windows systems, Git looks for the |.gitconfig| file in the |$HOME| directory (|%USERPROFILE%| in Windows’ environment), which is |C:\Documents and Settings\$USER| or |C:\Users\$USER| for most people, depending on version (|$USER| is |%USERNAME%| in Windows’ environment). is not going to work for anyone who doesn't work in Windows at the command line. No, git is NOT for non-coders. kc On 2/16/13 4:25 AM, Sharp, Chris wrote: - Original Message - From: Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:38:53 PM Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] thanks and poetry (github unfortunately would be a barrier to many) GitHub fortunately has excellent startup documentation for new users: https://help.github.com/**articles/set-up-githttps://help.github.com/articles/set-up-git I recommend GitHub as an entry point to using git (or to coding for that matter). Hope that's helpful, Chris -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
[CODE4LIB] thanks and poetry
I'm sitting at the hotel waiting for my airport shuttle and I'm looking over the list of great presentations that were given at the conference this year. Thanks to all the presenters and the hosts. As always, code4lib was a fun, engaging and inspiring event. Karen Coyle's nerd poetry was a fun idea from out of left field. I decided to give it a try while I wait for the shuttle. I believe her idea was to write poetry about coding, but I was inspired by the proximity of Valentine's day to instead write a cheesy love poem in code. if (roses == 'red' love == True): print 'Hello My Darling' self.append(you) See you all next year...I hope. -Josh Joshua Gomez Digital Library Programmer Analyst George Washington University Libraries 2130 H St, NW Washington, DC 20052 (202) 994-8267
Re: [CODE4LIB] thanks and poetry
I am grinning ear to ear at my reference desk monitor right now. Well done! Thanks for a great conference, everyone, and special thanks to Karen for the nerd poetry - I hope that will be a gift that keeps on giving! I'm certainly sharpening up my keyboard... Megan On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Joshua Gomez jngo...@gwu.edu wrote: I'm sitting at the hotel waiting for my airport shuttle and I'm looking over the list of great presentations that were given at the conference this year. Thanks to all the presenters and the hosts. As always, code4lib was a fun, engaging and inspiring event. Karen Coyle's nerd poetry was a fun idea from out of left field. I decided to give it a try while I wait for the shuttle. I believe her idea was to write poetry about coding, but I was inspired by the proximity of Valentine's day to instead write a cheesy love poem in code. if (roses == 'red' love == True): print 'Hello My Darling' self.append(you) See you all next year...I hope. -Josh Joshua Gomez Digital Library Programmer Analyst George Washington University Libraries 2130 H St, NW Washington, DC 20052 (202) 994-8267 -- Megan O'Neill Kudzia Web Services Emerging Technologies Librarian Stockwell-Mudd Library Albion College 602 E. Cass St. Albion, MI 49224
Re: [CODE4LIB] thanks and poetry
Yeah, Joshua! That DEFINITELY qualifies as nerd poetry IMO. I hope your darling can appreciate it! kc On 2/15/13 10:26 AM, Joshua Gomez wrote: I'm sitting at the hotel waiting for my airport shuttle and I'm looking over the list of great presentations that were given at the conference this year. Thanks to all the presenters and the hosts. As always, code4lib was a fun, engaging and inspiring event. Karen Coyle's nerd poetry was a fun idea from out of left field. I decided to give it a try while I wait for the shuttle. I believe her idea was to write poetry about coding, but I was inspired by the proximity of Valentine's day to instead write a cheesy love poem in code. if (roses == 'red' love == True): print 'Hello My Darling' self.append(you) See you all next year...I hope. -Josh Joshua Gomez Digital Library Programmer Analyst George Washington University Libraries 2130 H St, NW Washington, DC 20052 (202) 994-8267 -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] thanks and poetry
relevant: http://everything2.com/title/Ode+To+Lynx I like Karen's proposal of establishing an oral tradition. But I've also been thinking about version controlled poetry in github or on a wiki, and hyperlinked/linked data poetry. For that matter, does IRC poetry count as oral if the channel is unlogged? - Tom On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Yeah, Joshua! That DEFINITELY qualifies as nerd poetry IMO. I hope your darling can appreciate it! kc On 2/15/13 10:26 AM, Joshua Gomez wrote: I'm sitting at the hotel waiting for my airport shuttle and I'm looking over the list of great presentations that were given at the conference this year. Thanks to all the presenters and the hosts. As always, code4lib was a fun, engaging and inspiring event. Karen Coyle's nerd poetry was a fun idea from out of left field. I decided to give it a try while I wait for the shuttle. I believe her idea was to write poetry about coding, but I was inspired by the proximity of Valentine's day to instead write a cheesy love poem in code. if (roses == 'red' love == True): print 'Hello My Darling' self.append(you) See you all next year...I hope. -Josh Joshua Gomez Digital Library Programmer Analyst George Washington University Libraries 2130 H St, NW Washington, DC 20052 (202) 994-8267 -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] thanks and poetry
Tom, no reason why we can't also have written poetry -- and performances for when we are together. Some slam poetry as well as much rap is not recorded, and therefore has the same passing existence of an unlogged IRC channel. I would be fun to have a wiki for more durable poetry (github unfortunately would be a barrier to many). Wiki formatting will make even that a challenge, so we'll need to instruct folks to use a pre block (c4l wiki recognizes that, right?). kc On 2/15/13 3:12 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: relevant: http://everything2.com/title/Ode+To+Lynx I like Karen's proposal of establishing an oral tradition. But I've also been thinking about version controlled poetry in github or on a wiki, and hyperlinked/linked data poetry. For that matter, does IRC poetry count as oral if the channel is unlogged? - Tom On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Yeah, Joshua! That DEFINITELY qualifies as nerd poetry IMO. I hope your darling can appreciate it! kc On 2/15/13 10:26 AM, Joshua Gomez wrote: I'm sitting at the hotel waiting for my airport shuttle and I'm looking over the list of great presentations that were given at the conference this year. Thanks to all the presenters and the hosts. As always, code4lib was a fun, engaging and inspiring event. Karen Coyle's nerd poetry was a fun idea from out of left field. I decided to give it a try while I wait for the shuttle. I believe her idea was to write poetry about coding, but I was inspired by the proximity of Valentine's day to instead write a cheesy love poem in code. if (roses == 'red' love == True): print 'Hello My Darling' self.append(you) See you all next year...I hope. -Josh Joshua Gomez Digital Library Programmer Analyst George Washington University Libraries 2130 H St, NW Washington, DC 20052 (202) 994-8267 -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] thanks and poetry
I know some people know about this already, but for the past few years I've been using Git to version my songs [1], then publishing them using Github Pages [2]. It's actually worked out really well for my limited and specific purposes. Pull requests accepted! Hillel [1] https://github.com/helrond/songs [2] http://songs.hillelarnold.com/ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:12:38 -0800 From: johnson.tom+code4...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] thanks and poetry To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU relevant: http://everything2.com/title/Ode+To+Lynx I like Karen's proposal of establishing an oral tradition. But I've also been thinking about version controlled poetry in github or on a wiki, and hyperlinked/linked data poetry. For that matter, does IRC poetry count as oral if the channel is unlogged? - Tom On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: Yeah, Joshua! That DEFINITELY qualifies as nerd poetry IMO. I hope your darling can appreciate it! kc On 2/15/13 10:26 AM, Joshua Gomez wrote: I'm sitting at the hotel waiting for my airport shuttle and I'm looking over the list of great presentations that were given at the conference this year. Thanks to all the presenters and the hosts. As always, code4lib was a fun, engaging and inspiring event. Karen Coyle's nerd poetry was a fun idea from out of left field. I decided to give it a try while I wait for the shuttle. I believe her idea was to write poetry about coding, but I was inspired by the proximity of Valentine's day to instead write a cheesy love poem in code. if (roses == 'red' love == True): print 'Hello My Darling' self.append(you) See you all next year...I hope. -Josh Joshua Gomez Digital Library Programmer Analyst George Washington University Libraries 2130 H St, NW Washington, DC 20052 (202) 994-8267 -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
