Re: [CODE4LIB] Anonymizing address data

2014-06-05 Thread Cary Gordon
The great thing about compliance stuff like HIPPA/FERPA/PCI, etc. is that
they're so open to interpretation...

By lawyers.

On Thursday, June 5, 2014, Thomas Kula tlk2...@columbia.edu wrote:

 The great thing about compliance stuff like HIPPA/FERPA/PCI, etc. is
 that they're so open to interpretation. My general rule when dealing
 with any compliance issue is to make sure my university general
 counsel's office is happy with whatever I do. Yes, it can be a pain to
 do that, but you'll be better off in the long run. If they're happy and
 a legal issue comes up, it's their problem, not mine, which is generally
 where I want to be when it comes to compliance issues

 On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 12:07:56AM +, Sam Kome wrote:
  I'm not up on HIPPA and I am not a lawyer.
  Years ago I created a system for anonymizing address data that passed
 muster with the FCC and US Census bureau. In a nutshell we had a third
 party create a unique hash to identify the record, and geocode to the US
 Census block group.
  We never handled let alone stored the name or address ourselves.  We had
 an independent auditor audit our outsource party and our datasets. Block
 group is the US Census standard for protecting privacy - it really depends
 on what other data you retain though as to being able to reconstruct
 identity.
 
  Cheers!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU javascript:;]
 On Behalf Of Simon Spero
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 2:38 PM
  To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU javascript:;
  Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Anonymizing address data
 
  This book might be useful (it's a year old)
 
  Anonymizing Health Data 
 http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920029229.do
  Case Studies and Methods to Get You Started
  By Khaled El Emam, Luk Arbuckle
  http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920029229.do#tab_03_0
  Publisher: O'Reilly Media
  Released: December 2013
  Pages: 212
 
 
 
 
 
  On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Kyle Banerjee kyle.baner...@gmail.com
 javascript:;
  wrote:
 
   HIPPA compliant data cannot include personally identifiable
 information, a
   category which includes address. The safe harbor approach where
   geographic subdivisions smaller than states cannot be used frequently
   renders data useless.
  
   The expert determination method is always an option and precompiling
 can
   work in certain cases, but I was wondering what other methods people
 have
   successfully employed? Thanks,
  
   kyle
  

 --
 Thomas L. Kula tlk...@columbia.edu javascript:;
 Senior Systems Engineeer, Unix Systems Group
 Library Information Technology Office
 Columbia University in the City of New York



-- 
Cary Gordon
The Cherry Hill Company
http://chillco.com


Re: [CODE4LIB] Anonymizing address data

2014-06-04 Thread Sam Kome
I'm not up on HIPPA and I am not a lawyer.   
Years ago I created a system for anonymizing address data that passed muster 
with the FCC and US Census bureau. In a nutshell we had a third party create a 
unique hash to identify the record, and geocode to the US Census block group.  
We never handled let alone stored the name or address ourselves.  We had an 
independent auditor audit our outsource party and our datasets. Block group is 
the US Census standard for protecting privacy - it really depends on what other 
data you retain though as to being able to reconstruct identity.

Cheers!

-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Simon 
Spero
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 2:38 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Anonymizing address data

This book might be useful (it's a year old)

Anonymizing Health Data http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920029229.do
Case Studies and Methods to Get You Started
By Khaled El Emam, Luk Arbuckle
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920029229.do#tab_03_0
Publisher: O'Reilly Media
Released: December 2013
Pages: 212





On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Kyle Banerjee kyle.baner...@gmail.com
wrote:

 HIPPA compliant data cannot include personally identifiable information, a
 category which includes address. The safe harbor approach where
 geographic subdivisions smaller than states cannot be used frequently
 renders data useless.

 The expert determination method is always an option and precompiling can
 work in certain cases, but I was wondering what other methods people have
 successfully employed? Thanks,

 kyle



Re: [CODE4LIB] Anonymizing address data

2014-06-02 Thread Mark A. Matienzo
I would perhaps look at something like the MITRE Identification Scrubber
Toolkit: http://mist-deid.sourceforge.net/

Mark

--
Mark A. Matienzo m...@matienzo.org
Director of Technology, Digital Public Library of America


On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Kyle Banerjee kyle.baner...@gmail.com
wrote:

 HIPPA compliant data cannot include personally identifiable information, a
 category which includes address. The safe harbor approach where
 geographic subdivisions smaller than states cannot be used frequently
 renders data useless.

 The expert determination method is always an option and precompiling can
 work in certain cases, but I was wondering what other methods people have
 successfully employed? Thanks,

 kyle



Re: [CODE4LIB] Anonymizing address data

2014-06-02 Thread Simon Spero
This book might be useful (it's a year old)

Anonymizing Health Data http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920029229.do
Case Studies and Methods to Get You Started
By Khaled El Emam, Luk Arbuckle
http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920029229.do#tab_03_0
Publisher: O'Reilly Media
Released: December 2013
Pages: 212





On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Kyle Banerjee kyle.baner...@gmail.com
wrote:

 HIPPA compliant data cannot include personally identifiable information, a
 category which includes address. The safe harbor approach where
 geographic subdivisions smaller than states cannot be used frequently
 renders data useless.

 The expert determination method is always an option and precompiling can
 work in certain cases, but I was wondering what other methods people have
 successfully employed? Thanks,

 kyle