Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript
The text of this page: http://xissn.worldcat.org/xissnadmin/doc/subscribe.htm Did have higher usage per request for the options under OCLC Cataloging Members but now it has been added to Free service with registration. There is also now a link there to the correct email address to request such an exception. Thanks for pointing this out, Roy On 6/15/09 6/15/09 • 1:15 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: Does the xISSN documentation say that exceptions by non-OCLC members can be asked for, and instruct on where to make the request? If you want to keep from discouraging use accidentally by people who don't know they can get an exception, it needs to say that on the same page that talks about the 100/day limit, not just on the code4lib listserv. Roy Tennant wrote: It is worth following up on Xiaoming's statement of a limit of 100 uses per day of the xISSN service with the information that exceptions to this limite are certainly granted. Annette probably knows that just such an exception was granted to her LibX project, and LibX remains the single largest user of this service. Roy On 6/13/09 4:02 PM, Xiaoming Liu l...@oclc.org wrote: Annette's comment is correct. XISSN service allows 100 uses per day for non-OCLC usage. I don't think xISSN's price proposal is ever approved, so we don't have a price list for commercial usage. XISSN's access control is sort of complex, for more details please check http://xissn.worldcat.org/xissnadmin/doc/subscribe.htm , hopefully we can clean it up in the future. xiaoming On 6/13/09 3:52 PM, Hamparian,Don hampa...@oclc.org wrote: You can also purchase. I thought it was 500 usages a day. Xiaoming? -Original Message- From: Tennant,Roy Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:02 PM To: Hamparian,Don Subject: FW: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript I think I have to say yes to this, although it isn't going to make us look great. Roy -- Forwarded Message From: Annette Bailey afbai...@vt.edu Reply-To: Code for Libraries CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:55:57 -0400 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript Roy, Just to clarify, you have to be an OCLC cataloging member to use this beyond 100 uses per day, correct? Thanks, Annette On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Roy Tennanttenna...@oclc.org wrote: This data (the Tic-Tocs RSS URLs) is also available via xISSN. For example: http://xissn.worldcat.org/webservices/xid/issn/1095- 9203?method=getMetadata format=xmlfl=* Look for the rssurl attribute. For information on xISSN see: http://xissn.worldcat.org/xissnadmin/ Roy On 6/11/09 6/11/09 € 12:36 PM, Derik Badman dbad...@temple.edu wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Jon Gorman jonathan.gor...@gmail.comwrote: I guess the first question is if it is really necessary to use a text file? I'm not entirely clear on this process, but perhaps the text file could be imported into a database. At this point the text file is a stop-gap api that ticTOCs is offering (supposedly working an actual api), so this will probably be a temporary situation. I could put all the data into mysql, though then I'd have to figure out how to check the text file for changes and then update the database accordingly. Then of course perhaps there's some way to add this to the Serials Solution database directly? Then you don't need another javascript at all? I'm so disillusioned with them, that I didn't even consider that... cron + wget/curl would be a good first step it would seem. You might want some sort of script that monitors changes or the like. (Maybe send you an email if there's no updates in x days or something like that). Thanks, I'll look into that. -- -- End of Forwarded Message -- End of Forwarded Message --
Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript
Does the xISSN documentation say that exceptions by non-OCLC members can be asked for, and instruct on where to make the request? If you want to keep from discouraging use accidentally by people who don't know they can get an exception, it needs to say that on the same page that talks about the 100/day limit, not just on the code4lib listserv. Roy Tennant wrote: It is worth following up on Xiaoming's statement of a limit of 100 uses per day of the xISSN service with the information that exceptions to this limite are certainly granted. Annette probably knows that just such an exception was granted to her LibX project, and LibX remains the single largest user of this service. Roy On 6/13/09 4:02 PM, Xiaoming Liu l...@oclc.org wrote: Annette's comment is correct. XISSN service allows 100 uses per day for non-OCLC usage. I don't think xISSN's price proposal is ever approved, so we don't have a price list for commercial usage. XISSN's access control is sort of complex, for more details please check http://xissn.worldcat.org/xissnadmin/doc/subscribe.htm , hopefully we can clean it up in the future. xiaoming On 6/13/09 3:52 PM, Hamparian,Don hampa...@oclc.org wrote: You can also purchase. I thought it was 500 usages a day. Xiaoming? -Original Message- From: Tennant,Roy Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:02 PM To: Hamparian,Don Subject: FW: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript I think I have to say yes to this, although it isn't going to make us look great. Roy -- Forwarded Message From: Annette Bailey afbai...@vt.edu Reply-To: Code for Libraries CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:55:57 -0400 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript Roy, Just to clarify, you have to be an OCLC cataloging member to use this beyond 100 uses per day, correct? Thanks, Annette On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Roy Tennanttenna...@oclc.org wrote: This data (the Tic-Tocs RSS URLs) is also available via xISSN. For example: http://xissn.worldcat.org/webservices/xid/issn/1095- 9203?method=getMetadata format=xmlfl=* Look for the rssurl attribute. For information on xISSN see: http://xissn.worldcat.org/xissnadmin/ Roy On 6/11/09 6/11/09 € 12:36 PM, Derik Badman dbad...@temple.edu wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Jon Gorman jonathan.gor...@gmail.comwrote: I guess the first question is if it is really necessary to use a text file? I'm not entirely clear on this process, but perhaps the text file could be imported into a database. At this point the text file is a stop-gap api that ticTOCs is offering (supposedly working an actual api), so this will probably be a temporary situation. I could put all the data into mysql, though then I'd have to figure out how to check the text file for changes and then update the database accordingly. Then of course perhaps there's some way to add this to the Serials Solution database directly? Then you don't need another javascript at all? I'm so disillusioned with them, that I didn't even consider that... cron + wget/curl would be a good first step it would seem. You might want some sort of script that monitors changes or the like. (Maybe send you an email if there's no updates in x days or something like that). Thanks, I'll look into that. -- -- End of Forwarded Message -- End of Forwarded Message
Re: [CODE4LIB] FW: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Roy Tennant tenna...@oclc.org wrote: It is worth following up on Xiaoming's statement of a limit of 100 uses per day of the xISSN service with the information that exceptions to this limite are certainly granted. Annette probably knows that just such an exception was granted to her LibX project, and LibX remains the single largest user of this service. Roy Yes, Roy is correct. We are very grateful for OCLC's generous support and would like to acknowledge that publicly. FWIW, I suggested the inclusion of ticTOCs RSS feed data in the survey OCLC sent out two weeks ago, and less than a week later, OCLC rolls out the improved service. Excellent! [ As an aside, in LibX, we are changing the way we use the service; previously, we were looking up all ISSNs on any page a user visits; we are now retrieving the metadata if the user actually hovers over the link. Not that OCLC complained - but CrossRef did when they noticed 100,000 hits per day against their service for DOI metadata lookups. In fairness to CrossRef, they are working on beefing up their servers as well. ] - Godmar Annette for Team LibX.
