Re: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks
Resurrecting an old thread, I took some time this weekend to build my custom multi-tiered stand up/sit down desk. I'm going to 'field-test' this for a couple of weeks, then provide pictures/information as to how this is actually working (for me). Stay tuned... On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Forrest, Stuart sforr...@bcgov.netwrote: Mark It would be great to see some pictures once you are finished Stuart Forrest PhD, ACM Member Library Systems Specialist Beaufort County Library Beaufort SC 29902 843 255 6450 sforr...@bcgov.net http://www.beaufortcountylibrary.org/ For Learning, For Leisure, For Life. -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 12:26 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Thanks to everyone for their replies. I didn't think there would so many people passionate about this enough to respond. Not really having the resources to pursue an 'elevating' model, after taking a few measurements and a few Home Depot visits, I think I'm just going to build a 2 X 4, multi-tiered desk, with a 'standing' setup and anti-fatigue mat, and a 'sitting' setup on an exercise ball. This model also allows for custom book shelves, and with my unique large size, allows me to build the desk to my proper height specifications. Pricing it out, with everything, comes to around $200. Now, if only I could find the time to drop everything for a day and build the thing.. Thanks again! On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: If you write a 4,000 page trilogy, though, I'll strangle you. Or at least make you sit down. kc On 2/7/13 2:37 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: But Neil Stephenson works at a treadmill desk... I want one. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Baumer, M mark_bau...@brown.edu wrote: Philip Roth wrote at a standing desk for most of his career. Here's an outdated look at his setuphttp://www.youtube.com/**watch?feature=player_embedded** v=zvCk5aitYz8#t=201shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_emb eddedv=zvCk5aitYz8#t=201s . I don't have a standing desk, but I use this timerhttp://www.dejal.com/**timeout/ http://www.dejal.com/timeout/ . I have it set up to go off every fifteen minutes for a thirty second break. I usually standup, look out the window, and take a sip of water. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com wrote: My team of four is currently designing/building/recycling together our office space on the 4th floor in Chattanooga- a raw 14,000 sq ft open space. We have plenty of old desks to use, and on our first iteration we are each giving ourselves a personal sitting desk, but we will have stations for shared standing desks/workbenches. Something about standing makes me want to make physical stuff rather than just digital stuff. I'm really curious to see how it all works. Happy to report back. Nate On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: I use a bookcase in my office as a standup desk (photo below in the link) but it is really a matter of willpower I think. I get tired when I try to do concentrated work while standing and my experience is that I cannot stay standing and working at the same time more than 15 min even if I try hard although this may depend on each person. =) Even with the alarm I often ignore it and don't stand up. Then everything is in vain. Something to think about before investing in a new piece of furniture. http://www.bohyunkim.net/blog/**archives/2407http://www.bohyunkim .net/blog/archives/2407 Cheers, Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.**EDUCODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:09 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/**wiredscience/2012/10/mf-**standing-desk/h ttp://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/**12/02/business/stand-up-desks-** gaining-favor-in-the-**workplace.html?_r=1http://www.nytimes.com/ 2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.h tml?_r=1 ) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm
Re: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks
I have worked at a standing desk for a number of years and can attest that it does help with back problems. There is one thing that you need to factor in however, is your floor carpeted? I know it may sound trivial but at a previous institution, I was moved from a carpeted office to a bare tile office during repairs and it just killed my feet. It wasn't until I got an area rug that things started to get better. Former colleges have also attested that using exercise balls instead of chairs also help. Best, Rob -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Nathan Tallman Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 12:26 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks A bit late to the conversation, but there was a neat instructable this week about making your own standing desk. http://www.instructables.com/id/Liftable-Stand-up-Rising-Desk-Table/ Thought I'd share for those who are handy. Best, Nathan On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Mark Pernotto mark.perno...@gmail.com wrote: Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favo r-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark
Re: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks
I just learned that the UNC Gillings School of Global Public Health actually has public walkstations that can be reserved by faculty, staff, and students. The walkstations are treadmills with adjustable-height desks. http://www.sph.unc.edu/weekly_news/august_27_2012_23670_13974.html#new_walkstation I'm not sure which will happen first: treadmills in the library, or desks in the gym. Keith
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On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Nunez, Robert robert.nu...@marquette.edu wrote: Former colleges have also attested that using exercise balls instead of chairs also help. I was reading recently of a teacher who uses exercise balls for her elementary school students. That made me wonder about the possibility of using it as a work chair. I don't own one, but tested it out (for a short period) this past weekend at the pool/gym. I'm wondering, does anyone do this and how to you find it? Do you have a wall behind you or just the ball? I'm curious... Thanks, Kevin
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I don't use one personally, but I know there are people in our library who have a ball on a little rolling stand - looks something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Gaiam-Balance-Ball-Chair-Black/dp/B0007VB4NE Hope this helps... Joe Montibello, MLIS Library Systems Manager Dartmouth College Library 603.646.9394 joseph.montibe...@dartmouth.edu On 3/4/13 10:06 AM, Kevin S. Clarke kscla...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Nunez, Robert robert.nu...@marquette.edu wrote: Former colleges have also attested that using exercise balls instead of chairs also help. I was reading recently of a teacher who uses exercise balls for her elementary school students. That made me wonder about the possibility of using it as a work chair. I don't own one, but tested it out (for a short period) this past weekend at the pool/gym. I'm wondering, does anyone do this and how to you find it? Do you have a wall behind you or just the ball? I'm curious... Thanks, Kevin
Re: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks
A bit late to the conversation, but there was a neat instructable this week about making your own standing desk. http://www.instructables.com/id/Liftable-Stand-up-Rising-Desk-Table/ Thought I'd share for those who are handy. Best, Nathan On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Mark Pernotto mark.perno...@gmail.com wrote: Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1;) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark
Re: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks
Thanks to everyone for their replies. I didn't think there would so many people passionate about this enough to respond. Not really having the resources to pursue an 'elevating' model, after taking a few measurements and a few Home Depot visits, I think I'm just going to build a 2 X 4, multi-tiered desk, with a 'standing' setup and anti-fatigue mat, and a 'sitting' setup on an exercise ball. This model also allows for custom book shelves, and with my unique large size, allows me to build the desk to my proper height specifications. Pricing it out, with everything, comes to around $200. Now, if only I could find the time to drop everything for a day and build the thing.. Thanks again! On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: If you write a 4,000 page trilogy, though, I'll strangle you. Or at least make you sit down. kc On 2/7/13 2:37 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: But Neil Stephenson works at a treadmill desk... I want one. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Baumer, M mark_bau...@brown.edu wrote: Philip Roth wrote at a standing desk for most of his career. Here's an outdated look at his setuphttp://www.youtube.com/**watch?feature=player_embedded** v=zvCk5aitYz8#t=201shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=zvCk5aitYz8#t=201s . I don't have a standing desk, but I use this timerhttp://www.dejal.com/**timeout/ http://www.dejal.com/timeout/. I have it set up to go off every fifteen minutes for a thirty second break. I usually standup, look out the window, and take a sip of water. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com wrote: My team of four is currently designing/building/recycling together our office space on the 4th floor in Chattanooga- a raw 14,000 sq ft open space. We have plenty of old desks to use, and on our first iteration we are each giving ourselves a personal sitting desk, but we will have stations for shared standing desks/workbenches. Something about standing makes me want to make physical stuff rather than just digital stuff. I'm really curious to see how it all works. Happy to report back. Nate On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: I use a bookcase in my office as a standup desk (photo below in the link) but it is really a matter of willpower I think. I get tired when I try to do concentrated work while standing and my experience is that I cannot stay standing and working at the same time more than 15 min even if I try hard although this may depend on each person. =) Even with the alarm I often ignore it and don't stand up. Then everything is in vain. Something to think about before investing in a new piece of furniture. http://www.bohyunkim.net/blog/**archives/2407http://www.bohyunkim.net/blog/archives/2407 Cheers, Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.**EDUCODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:09 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/**wiredscience/2012/10/mf-**standing-desk/http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/**12/02/business/stand-up-desks-** gaining-favor-in-the-**workplace.html?_r=1http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1; ) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark -- Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.**org/ http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ http://www.natehill.net -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
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Mark It would be great to see some pictures once you are finished Stuart Forrest PhD, ACM Member Library Systems Specialist Beaufort County Library Beaufort SC 29902 843 255 6450 sforr...@bcgov.net http://www.beaufortcountylibrary.org/ For Learning, For Leisure, For Life. -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 12:26 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Thanks to everyone for their replies. I didn't think there would so many people passionate about this enough to respond. Not really having the resources to pursue an 'elevating' model, after taking a few measurements and a few Home Depot visits, I think I'm just going to build a 2 X 4, multi-tiered desk, with a 'standing' setup and anti-fatigue mat, and a 'sitting' setup on an exercise ball. This model also allows for custom book shelves, and with my unique large size, allows me to build the desk to my proper height specifications. Pricing it out, with everything, comes to around $200. Now, if only I could find the time to drop everything for a day and build the thing.. Thanks again! On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Karen Coyle li...@kcoyle.net wrote: If you write a 4,000 page trilogy, though, I'll strangle you. Or at least make you sit down. kc On 2/7/13 2:37 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: But Neil Stephenson works at a treadmill desk... I want one. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Baumer, M mark_bau...@brown.edu wrote: Philip Roth wrote at a standing desk for most of his career. Here's an outdated look at his setuphttp://www.youtube.com/**watch?feature=player_embedded** v=zvCk5aitYz8#t=201shttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_emb eddedv=zvCk5aitYz8#t=201s . I don't have a standing desk, but I use this timerhttp://www.dejal.com/**timeout/ http://www.dejal.com/timeout/. I have it set up to go off every fifteen minutes for a thirty second break. I usually standup, look out the window, and take a sip of water. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com wrote: My team of four is currently designing/building/recycling together our office space on the 4th floor in Chattanooga- a raw 14,000 sq ft open space. We have plenty of old desks to use, and on our first iteration we are each giving ourselves a personal sitting desk, but we will have stations for shared standing desks/workbenches. Something about standing makes me want to make physical stuff rather than just digital stuff. I'm really curious to see how it all works. Happy to report back. Nate On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: I use a bookcase in my office as a standup desk (photo below in the link) but it is really a matter of willpower I think. I get tired when I try to do concentrated work while standing and my experience is that I cannot stay standing and working at the same time more than 15 min even if I try hard although this may depend on each person. =) Even with the alarm I often ignore it and don't stand up. Then everything is in vain. Something to think about before investing in a new piece of furniture. http://www.bohyunkim.net/blog/**archives/2407http://www.bohyunkim .net/blog/archives/2407 Cheers, Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.**EDUCODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:09 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/**wiredscience/2012/10/mf-**standing-desk/h ttp://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/**12/02/business/stand-up-desks-** gaining-favor-in-the-**workplace.html?_r=1http://www.nytimes.com/ 2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.h tml?_r=1 ) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark -- Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.**org/ http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ http://www.natehill.net -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
Re: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks
I use a stand-up desk (actually I have two - one is just a drafting table). Right now I'm working on this one[1] which is billed as a laptop stand and is adjustable so I can stand or sit. I use it with a regular desk, which is where my screens sit. They also have whole desks that go up and down, but those are pretty expensive. I like standing to work, but after many hours it also can lead to back pain. Being able to alternate sitting and standing is great. I also find that there are some tasks that are sitting tasks (reading, thinking) and some that are standing tasks (writing). kc [1] http://www.jesperoffice.com/jesper-office-ergonomics/526-height-adjustable-tables-workpad-201 On 2/7/13 9:09 AM, Mark Pernotto wrote: Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1;) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
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I use a bookcase in my office as a standup desk (photo below in the link) but it is really a matter of willpower I think. I get tired when I try to do concentrated work while standing and my experience is that I cannot stay standing and working at the same time more than 15 min even if I try hard although this may depend on each person. =) Even with the alarm I often ignore it and don't stand up. Then everything is in vain. Something to think about before investing in a new piece of furniture. http://www.bohyunkim.net/blog/archives/2407 Cheers, Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:09 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1;) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark
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I am using a height-adjustable table while working on my office computer. I don't have picture of it but I think it should be available at any office depots. The good thing about it is you can choose to either sit or stand before the table. Kelly -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: 2013年2月7日 11:09 To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1;) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark
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I use a standing desk for about half the day. Also have an anti-fatigue mat to stand on. Would be happy to share some info. A colleague is looking at maybe purchasing this: https://www.ergobuyer.com/index.cfm/product/243_63/workfit-s-lcd--laptop-sit-stand-workstation.cfm -- Will Clarke Senior Systems Administrator Z. Smith Reynolds Library Wake Forest University On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: I use a bookcase in my office as a standup desk (photo below in the link) but it is really a matter of willpower I think. I get tired when I try to do concentrated work while standing and my experience is that I cannot stay standing and working at the same time more than 15 min even if I try hard although this may depend on each person. =) Even with the alarm I often ignore it and don't stand up. Then everything is in vain. Something to think about before investing in a new piece of furniture. http://www.bohyunkim.net/blog/archives/2407 Cheers, Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:09 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1; ) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark
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My team of four is currently designing/building/recycling together our office space on the 4th floor in Chattanooga- a raw 14,000 sq ft open space. We have plenty of old desks to use, and on our first iteration we are each giving ourselves a personal sitting desk, but we will have stations for shared standing desks/workbenches. Something about standing makes me want to make physical stuff rather than just digital stuff. I'm really curious to see how it all works. Happy to report back. Nate On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: I use a bookcase in my office as a standup desk (photo below in the link) but it is really a matter of willpower I think. I get tired when I try to do concentrated work while standing and my experience is that I cannot stay standing and working at the same time more than 15 min even if I try hard although this may depend on each person. =) Even with the alarm I often ignore it and don't stand up. Then everything is in vain. Something to think about before investing in a new piece of furniture. http://www.bohyunkim.net/blog/archives/2407 Cheers, Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:09 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1; ) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark -- Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ http://www.natehill.net
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Philip Roth wrote at a standing desk for most of his career. Here's an outdated look at his setuphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=zvCk5aitYz8#t=201s . I don't have a standing desk, but I use this timerhttp://www.dejal.com/timeout/. I have it set up to go off every fifteen minutes for a thirty second break. I usually standup, look out the window, and take a sip of water. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com wrote: My team of four is currently designing/building/recycling together our office space on the 4th floor in Chattanooga- a raw 14,000 sq ft open space. We have plenty of old desks to use, and on our first iteration we are each giving ourselves a personal sitting desk, but we will have stations for shared standing desks/workbenches. Something about standing makes me want to make physical stuff rather than just digital stuff. I'm really curious to see how it all works. Happy to report back. Nate On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: I use a bookcase in my office as a standup desk (photo below in the link) but it is really a matter of willpower I think. I get tired when I try to do concentrated work while standing and my experience is that I cannot stay standing and working at the same time more than 15 min even if I try hard although this may depend on each person. =) Even with the alarm I often ignore it and don't stand up. Then everything is in vain. Something to think about before investing in a new piece of furniture. http://www.bohyunkim.net/blog/archives/2407 Cheers, Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:09 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1; ) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark -- Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ http://www.natehill.net
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I have a stand up desk and love it! My set up consists of two desks (one in front and one behind). I use a ball chair for my sitting desk and then turn around and stand up for my standing desk. I use the sitting desk for my writing-type tasks and my standing desk for all of my digital forensics / data entry , etc. tasks that require a lot of swapping media in and out, software installation and testing, and other tasks that don't require a consistent stream of typing. The desk is able to be used as a sitting or standing desk and is part of the VL2 series pneumatic table. Something like: http://www.versatables.com/products/electric-lift-table/ It really helps me from a skeleton and muscle perspective. Procurement under an Occupational Health and Safety request is often an option. And I agree that I'm more focused and can do the repetitive work for longer when I'm doing it at my standing desk. Kari Smith Digital Archivist -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Bohyun Kim Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:27 PM To: CODE4LIB@listserv.nd.edu Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks I use a bookcase in my office as a standup desk (photo below in the link) but it is really a matter of willpower I think. I get tired when I try to do concentrated work while standing and my experience is that I cannot stay standing and working at the same time more than 15 min even if I try hard although this may depend on each person. =) Even with the alarm I often ignore it and don't stand up. Then everything is in vain. Something to think about before investing in a new piece of furniture. http://www.bohyunkim.net/blog/archives/2407 Cheers, Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:09 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1;) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark
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I work at a Library and I am using an old card catalog table as a standing desk. I am 4 ft 10 and this is a perfect height for me. I use this all day long and wish I had the same thing at home. I am 65 and never get tired from standing. Chairs have never fit me and my back feels better than I can ever remember. Thomas Jefferson and Donald Rumsfeld used standing desks. c.deane On 2/7/2013 12:32 PM, Nate Hill wrote: My team of four is currently designing/building/recycling together our office space on the 4th floor in Chattanooga- a raw 14,000 sq ft open space. We have plenty of old desks to use, and on our first iteration we are each giving ourselves a personal sitting desk, but we will have stations for shared standing desks/workbenches. Something about standing makes me want to make physical stuff rather than just digital stuff. I'm really curious to see how it all works. Happy to report back. Nate On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: I use a bookcase in my office as a standup desk (photo below in the link) but it is really a matter of willpower I think. I get tired when I try to do concentrated work while standing and my experience is that I cannot stay standing and working at the same time more than 15 min even if I try hard although this may depend on each person. =) Even with the alarm I often ignore it and don't stand up. Then everything is in vain. Something to think about before investing in a new piece of furniture. http://www.bohyunkim.net/blog/archives/2407 Cheers, Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:09 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1; ) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark
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I'm using a sit/stand desk (the aerotouch at work, the geekdesk at home), and it's wonderful. Definitely +1 on the anti-fatigue mat: here's the one I use: http://www.amazon.com/Sublime-Imprint-Designer-Nantucket-Espresso/dp/B0049HA0K0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8s=home-gardenqid=1304093100sr=1-3 On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Cricket Deane cde...@utk.edu wrote: I work at a Library and I am using an old card catalog table as a standing desk. I am 4 ft 10 and this is a perfect height for me. I use this all day long and wish I had the same thing at home. I am 65 and never get tired from standing. Chairs have never fit me and my back feels better than I can ever remember. Thomas Jefferson and Donald Rumsfeld used standing desks. c.deane On 2/7/2013 12:32 PM, Nate Hill wrote: My team of four is currently designing/building/recycling together our office space on the 4th floor in Chattanooga- a raw 14,000 sq ft open space. We have plenty of old desks to use, and on our first iteration we are each giving ourselves a personal sitting desk, but we will have stations for shared standing desks/workbenches. Something about standing makes me want to make physical stuff rather than just digital stuff. I'm really curious to see how it all works. Happy to report back. Nate On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: I use a bookcase in my office as a standup desk (photo below in the link) but it is really a matter of willpower I think. I get tired when I try to do concentrated work while standing and my experience is that I cannot stay standing and working at the same time more than 15 min even if I try hard although this may depend on each person. =) Even with the alarm I often ignore it and don't stand up. Then everything is in vain. Something to think about before investing in a new piece of furniture. http://www.bohyunkim.net/blog/**archives/2407http://www.bohyunkim.net/blog/archives/2407 Cheers, Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.**EDUCODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:09 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/**wiredscience/2012/10/mf-**standing-desk/http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/**12/02/business/stand-up-desks-** gaining-favor-in-the-**workplace.html?_r=1http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1; ) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark
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I love geek desk: http://www.geekdesk.com I have one at home and one at work, and we have since bought two more in my department at work and even more people have asked for them. I highly recommend a motorized adjustable height desk. I sit and stand throughout the day depending on how bad my thoracic outlet syndrome is at the moment. You do get used to standing after awhile (in fact, part of what happens is that it forces you to get stronger), but I notice that I am better at writing prose and reading articles when I'm standing, and better at writing code when I'm seated. YMMV. I see these becoming a recognized best practice. The geek desk is less expensive than our usual office furniture, and even if you don't want to use it as a standing desk, being able to easily adjust the height of your desk by an inch or two can make a huge difference ergonomically. We used to have to call in a service request to building maintenance in order to adjust the height of a desk. This is much better, and it allows for the fact that one's best ergonomic position might change from day to day. My move to a standing desk was a major factor in my recovery from a severe pinched nerve in my neck last year (a.k.a. thoracic outlet syndrome). I combined it with body work designed to debug what it was about my posture that was causing the pain. I went to this place, and it is great, but plenty of other places can help with this too: http://www.balancecenter.com If you find a good place they will also help you look at the ergonomics of your bed, your walk, your car, your bike, your clothing, and anything else that might be reinforcing dysfunctional posture. It is worth the investment to figure out where you pain is coming from and to address it. A standing desk is a good start, and combines well with other strategies too. Good luck! Bess -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:09 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1; ) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark -- Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ http://www.natehill.net
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Go all the way to a treadmill desk. Check out http://officewalkers.ning.comfor info. On Feb 7, 2013 10:09 AM, Mark Pernotto mark.perno...@gmail.com wrote: Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1; ) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark
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I got my anti-fatigue mat for $56 - http://amzn.to/14VqrJu For a mere $4749.99 you can get an elliptical desk :) http://www.beyondtheofficedoor.com/RA-Lifebalance.php
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I have a dual computer setup. I do the majority of my work on a mac and that's my sitting computer. I do the majority of email, scheduling, IE testing on a PC and that's my stand up station. On the mac I use an app called BreakTime set at 20 minute intervals to remind me to get up off my butt. I made my own stand-up station based off this article: http://iamnotaprogrammer.com/Ikea-Standing-desk-for-22-dollars.html BreakTime cost $3. There is also this study from Cornell about how standing doesn't cure all ills. http://ergo.human.cornell.edu/CUESitStand.html *The bottom line: *Sit to do computer work. Sit using a height-adjustable, downward titling keyboard tray for the best work posture, then every 20 minutes stand for 2 minutes* AND MOVE*. The absolute time isn’t critical but about every 20-30 minutes take a posture break and move for a couple of minutes. Simply standing is insufficient. Movement is important to get blood circulation through the muscles. And movement is *FREE*! Research shows that you don’t need to do vigorous exercise (e.g. jumping jacks) to get the benefits, just walking around is sufficient. So build in a pattern of creating greater movement variety in the workplace (e.g. walk to a printer, water fountain, stand for a meeting, take the stairs, walk around the floor, park a bit further away from the building each day). On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Will Clarke clark...@wfu.edu wrote: I got my anti-fatigue mat for $56 - http://amzn.to/14VqrJu For a mere $4749.99 you can get an elliptical desk :) http://www.beyondtheofficedoor.com/RA-Lifebalance.php
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I tried very hard to convince my Building team that our new library IT offices all needed motorized sit/stand, and lost that battle due to $$ concerns. We did design our new workroom to be 90% standing, though, and I plan to have a low-cost/cheap standing desk as an option in my new office. Jason On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Will Clarke clark...@wfu.edu wrote: I got my anti-fatigue mat for $56 - http://amzn.to/14VqrJu For a mere $4749.99 you can get an elliptical desk :) http://www.beyondtheofficedoor.com/RA-Lifebalance.php
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Our cataloger got a similar desk last month, but with a hand crank instead of a motor. It is helping her hip pain quite a bit to be able to stand or sit as needed throughout the day without having to move to a different work station. We do have a caveat to offer, though: This particular cataloger is just 5' 7, but the top height of the desk we ordered was still not quite high enough. A set of bricks fixed the problem, but might not have were she any taller. Maurine McCourry Technical Services Librarian Hillsdale College, Mossey Library mmccou...@hillsdale.edu -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Bess Sadler Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:52 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks I love geek desk: http://www.geekdesk.com I have one at home and one at work, and we have since bought two more in my department at work and even more people have asked for them. I highly recommend a motorized adjustable height desk. I sit and stand throughout the day depending on how bad my thoracic outlet syndrome is at the moment. You do get used to standing after awhile (in fact, part of what happens is that it forces you to get stronger), but I notice that I am better at writing prose and reading articles when I'm standing, and better at writing code when I'm seated. YMMV. I see these becoming a recognized best practice. The geek desk is less expensive than our usual office furniture, and even if you don't want to use it as a standing desk, being able to easily adjust the height of your desk by an inch or two can make a huge difference ergonomically. We used to have to call in a service request to building maintenance in order to adjust the height of a desk. This is much better, and it allows for the fact that one's best ergonomic position might change from day to day. My move to a standing desk was a major factor in my recovery from a severe pinched nerve in my neck last year (a.k.a. thoracic outlet syndrome). I combined it with body work designed to debug what it was about my posture that was causing the pain. I went to this place, and it is great, but plenty of other places can help with this too: http://www.balancecenter.com If you find a good place they will also help you look at the ergonomics of your bed, your walk, your car, your bike, your clothing, and anything else that might be reinforcing dysfunctional posture. It is worth the investment to figure out where you pain is coming from and to address it. A standing desk is a good start, and combines well with other strategies too. Good luck! Bess -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:09 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-fav or-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1 ) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark -- Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ http://www.natehill.net
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I don't have a standing desk either. However, I use a very large exercise ball as my seat for part of the day. Makes you work on your core muscles and posture. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Peter Murray peter.mur...@lyrasis.orgwrote: I don't have a standing desk, but I'm a big fan of using PVC pipe to put equipment at a proper ergonomic level. In this case, laptop and monitor stands.
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I'm a big fan of just having an obscenely large monitor. I can work on the other side of the room. Standing, sitting, whatevs. http://instagram.com/p/RqaKH0DRQN/ -Sean On 2/7/13 2:37 PM, Peter Murray peter.mur...@lyrasis.org wrote: I don't have a standing desk, but I'm a big fan of using PVC pipe to put equipment at a proper ergonomic level. In this case, laptop and monitor stands.
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I got a set of manually adjustable table legs for $50 and a used door for $5 to make into my desk at home. The manual adjustment is done leg by leg, so it doesn't work for periodically adjusting the height throughout the day -- what it's good for is if you just need an unusual height desk. http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=11205site=ROCKLER Some years back, I found that using a kneeling-style chair some of the time helped a lot. I couldn't use it all the time because then my knees would get sore! If there's room in your office, you can add a cycle desk for about 5% of the cost of that elliptical desk. Only works with a laptop/tablet, not a full-size desktop+monitor+keyboard. It makes a GREAT break from the regular desk. http://fitdesk.net/ Genny Engel Sonoma County Library gen...@sonoma.lib.ca.us 707 545-0831 x1581 www.sonomalibrary.org -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Will Clarke Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:10 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks I got my anti-fatigue mat for $56 - http://amzn.to/14VqrJu For a mere $4749.99 you can get an elliptical desk :) http://www.beyondtheofficedoor.com/RA-Lifebalance.php
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Here's a post on moving to a standing desk: http://chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/stand-in-the-place-where-you-work-month-2/44228 . Maybe if you have a popular blog, you can get Geekdesk to donate one to you? :) Tim On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Genny Engel gen...@sonoma.lib.ca.us wrote: I got a set of manually adjustable table legs for $50 and a used door for $5 to make into my desk at home. The manual adjustment is done leg by leg, so it doesn't work for periodically adjusting the height throughout the day -- what it's good for is if you just need an unusual height desk. http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=11205site=ROCKLER Some years back, I found that using a kneeling-style chair some of the time helped a lot. I couldn't use it all the time because then my knees would get sore! If there's room in your office, you can add a cycle desk for about 5% of the cost of that elliptical desk. Only works with a laptop/tablet, not a full-size desktop+monitor+keyboard. It makes a GREAT break from the regular desk. http://fitdesk.net/ Genny Engel Sonoma County Library gen...@sonoma.lib.ca.us 707 545-0831 x1581 www.sonomalibrary.org -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Will Clarke Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:10 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks I got my anti-fatigue mat for $56 - http://amzn.to/14VqrJu For a mere $4749.99 you can get an elliptical desk :) http://www.beyondtheofficedoor.com/RA-Lifebalance.php
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I have a no-cost makeshift standup desk--I can switch between standing and sitting in 15-20 seconds. I usually only change once or twice a day. Here it is: http://twitpic.com/35w860 Note the slide-away keyboard tray not used in standing position. I do have to lift my display down from the shelf when I switch, but hey, I've been working out. Mark On 2/7/13 4:18 PM, Timothy A. Lepczyk timlepc...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a post on moving to a standing desk: http://chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/stand-in-the-place-where-you-work-mo nth-2/44228 . Maybe if you have a popular blog, you can get Geekdesk to donate one to you? :) Tim On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Genny Engel gen...@sonoma.lib.ca.us wrote: I got a set of manually adjustable table legs for $50 and a used door for $5 to make into my desk at home. The manual adjustment is done leg by leg, so it doesn't work for periodically adjusting the height throughout the day -- what it's good for is if you just need an unusual height desk. http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=11205site=ROCKLER Some years back, I found that using a kneeling-style chair some of the time helped a lot. I couldn't use it all the time because then my knees would get sore! If there's room in your office, you can add a cycle desk for about 5% of the cost of that elliptical desk. Only works with a laptop/tablet, not a full-size desktop+monitor+keyboard. It makes a GREAT break from the regular desk. http://fitdesk.net/ Genny Engel Sonoma County Library gen...@sonoma.lib.ca.us 707 545-0831 x1581 www.sonomalibrary.org -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Will Clarke Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:10 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks I got my anti-fatigue mat for $56 - http://amzn.to/14VqrJu For a mere $4749.99 you can get an elliptical desk :) http://www.beyondtheofficedoor.com/RA-Lifebalance.php
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But Neil Stephenson works at a treadmill desk... I want one. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Baumer, M mark_bau...@brown.edu wrote: Philip Roth wrote at a standing desk for most of his career. Here's an outdated look at his setuphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=zvCk5aitYz8#t=201s . I don't have a standing desk, but I use this timerhttp://www.dejal.com/timeout/. I have it set up to go off every fifteen minutes for a thirty second break. I usually standup, look out the window, and take a sip of water. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com wrote: My team of four is currently designing/building/recycling together our office space on the 4th floor in Chattanooga- a raw 14,000 sq ft open space. We have plenty of old desks to use, and on our first iteration we are each giving ourselves a personal sitting desk, but we will have stations for shared standing desks/workbenches. Something about standing makes me want to make physical stuff rather than just digital stuff. I'm really curious to see how it all works. Happy to report back. Nate On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: I use a bookcase in my office as a standup desk (photo below in the link) but it is really a matter of willpower I think. I get tired when I try to do concentrated work while standing and my experience is that I cannot stay standing and working at the same time more than 15 min even if I try hard although this may depend on each person. =) Even with the alarm I often ignore it and don't stand up. Then everything is in vain. Something to think about before investing in a new piece of furniture. http://www.bohyunkim.net/blog/archives/2407 Cheers, Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:09 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1; ) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark -- Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ http://www.natehill.net -- Cary Gordon The Cherry Hill Company http://chillco.com
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If you write a 4,000 page trilogy, though, I'll strangle you. Or at least make you sit down. kc On 2/7/13 2:37 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: But Neil Stephenson works at a treadmill desk... I want one. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Baumer, M mark_bau...@brown.edu wrote: Philip Roth wrote at a standing desk for most of his career. Here's an outdated look at his setuphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=zvCk5aitYz8#t=201s . I don't have a standing desk, but I use this timerhttp://www.dejal.com/timeout/. I have it set up to go off every fifteen minutes for a thirty second break. I usually standup, look out the window, and take a sip of water. On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com wrote: My team of four is currently designing/building/recycling together our office space on the 4th floor in Chattanooga- a raw 14,000 sq ft open space. We have plenty of old desks to use, and on our first iteration we are each giving ourselves a personal sitting desk, but we will have stations for shared standing desks/workbenches. Something about standing makes me want to make physical stuff rather than just digital stuff. I'm really curious to see how it all works. Happy to report back. Nate On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Bohyun Kim k...@fiu.edu wrote: I use a bookcase in my office as a standup desk (photo below in the link) but it is really a matter of willpower I think. I get tired when I try to do concentrated work while standing and my experience is that I cannot stay standing and working at the same time more than 15 min even if I try hard although this may depend on each person. =) Even with the alarm I often ignore it and don't stand up. Then everything is in vain. Something to think about before investing in a new piece of furniture. http://www.bohyunkim.net/blog/archives/2407 Cheers, Bohyun -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Pernotto Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:09 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: [CODE4LIB] Stand Up Desks Despite my best efforts of sitting up straight, getting an ergonomic chair, making sure my desk is a proper height (I'm a tall guy, so my desk is 'modified' to reflect this), and I make sure I stand up and at least stretch every 30 minutes (or so), my back still bothers me some days. I saw a Wired article a few months back hailing the benefits of stand up desks (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/10/mf-standing-desk/), and also found an article in NY Times ( http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/business/stand-up-desks-gaining-favor-in-the-workplace.html?_r=1; ) and wondered if there were any other developers/list members who used them. In my mind, I'm trading one problem for another, and I'm not sure I want to be standing up all day long. On the other hand, my back is killing me today. Suggestions? Mark -- Nate Hill nathanielh...@gmail.com http://4thfloor.chattlibrary.org/ http://www.natehill.net -- Karen Coyle kco...@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
