Re: [Coder-Com] bug in /list

2003-06-13 Thread Timothy Barbeisch
Agreed.  That's exactly what you use it for.  As is implies fixing it to 
work properly though I'd assume :)

At 10:08 PM 6/12/2003 -0600, Captain Kirk wrote:

I always found +p useful for those who wanted to find the channel, and
weren't just people looking to pester someone.  +s hides completely, and +p
is still accessable for those who know how to "look."  IMHO, this a good
thing.  If people are really looking for your channel then they'll find it.
It kinda of puts up that "elite" block in some sense.  +s is for the
channels that people aren't supposed to know about.  There's a big
difference between the two.
Keep the mode :-) as is.

CK

---
"The way to become boring is to say everything." --Voltaire




Re: [Coder-Com] bug in /list

2003-06-13 Thread Carlo Wood
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 01:43:06PM +0200, Carlo Wood wrote:
> The most important difference is (or used to be, dunno
> if that still works as-is) that when you are on a channel
> that is +s then you cannot be found with a wildcard /WHO
> if you'd otherwise have matched.  This isn't the case
> when sitting on a +p channel.  The other difference is
> whether or not the channel name shows up in /list.
> Both prohibit to see which users are on the channel
> without first joining it.

(and both don't showup in the channel list of /WHOIS )

> But +p channels do not
> disallow you to find the channel name with /list, imho.

-- 
Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Re: [Coder-Com] bug in /list

2003-06-13 Thread Carlo Wood
> > How about we drop +p as a separate mode and make it do +s for
> compatibility?
> > --
> > Kevin L. Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The most important difference is (or used to be, dunno
if that still works as-is) that when you are on a channel
that is +s then you cannot be found with a wildcard /WHO
if you'd otherwise have matched.  This isn't the case
when sitting on a +p channel.  The other difference is
whether or not the channel name shows up in /list.
Both prohibit to see which users are on the channel
without first joining it.  But +p channels do not
disallow you to find the channel name with /list, imho.

-- 
Carlo Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


[Coder-Com] Host encryption.

2003-06-13 Thread Barlad
Hello, 

For a research project, I am looking for documentation concerning the way host 
encryption works in IRC and particularly in  irc-u. My knowledge in C is 
quite limited but if anyone could give me a clue about the way it works and 
point me towards the C files that contains the functions which are used to 
encrypt hosts, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.



Re: [Coder-Com] Host encryption.

2003-06-13 Thread net
You must be confusing our ircd with other ircds floating in circulation on
the Internet.  The Undernet ircd (ircu) does not perform any type of host
encryption at any level.

Cheers,
netski

- Original Message -
From: "Barlad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:02 AM
Subject: [Coder-Com] Host encryption.


> Hello,
>
> For a research project, I am looking for documentation concerning the way
host
> encryption works in IRC and particularly in  irc-u. My knowledge in C is
> quite limited but if anyone could give me a clue about the way it works
and
> point me towards the C files that contains the functions which are used to
> encrypt hosts, I would really appreciate it.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>



[Coder-Com] Re: Host Encryption

2003-06-13 Thread Barlad
I may have not correctly said what I meant. I was referring to the "hidden
host" feature. I vaguely remember reading about it in the changelog of a 1.x
version. For instance, if user joe has got the hostname: myhostname.com, it
would appear to other users as 22492032.com (random numeric string).

It may have been a patched version of ircu or I may be confusing it with
another server. If this is the case, sorry for the bother.

Best regards.



>You must be confusing our ircd with other ircds floating in circulation
>on
>the Internet.  The Undernet ircd (ircu) does not perform any type of
>host
>encryption at any level.
>
>Cheers,
>netski




Re: [Coder-Com] Re: Host Encryption

2003-06-13 Thread Entrope
"Barlad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I may have not correctly said what I meant. I was referring to the "hidden
> host" feature. I vaguely remember reading about it in the changelog of a 1.x
> version. For instance, if user joe has got the hostname: myhostname.com, it
> would appear to other users as 22492032.com (random numeric string).
> 
> It may have been a patched version of ircu or I may be confusing it with
> another server. If this is the case, sorry for the bother.

The only "hidden host" feature in ircu is usermode +x, which
constructs a hidden host by concatenating the user's account name with
a network-wide fixed suffix; for example:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
where my account name is "Entrope" and the network-wide suffix is
"users.undernet.org."  This was added in ircu2.10.11; to the best of
my knowledge, the version 1.x you were thinking of cannot refer to
ircu.

Entrope