[jira] [Commented] (AIRFLOW-497) Release plans & info

2016-09-12 Thread Alexander Kachkaev (JIRA)

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Alexander Kachkaev commented on AIRFLOW-497:


Thanks for your reply [~artwr],

I saw the roadmap document on wiki and was not sure if this was a good source 
of truth because the content was last updated 3 months ago. The most updated 
page on the whole wiki seems to be the blog 
(https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewrecentblogposts.action?key=AIRFLOW),
 which is just full of spam.

My research team is currently looking for a workflow management solution that 
we could rely on for at least a couple of years and I imagine that we are not 
the only ones here. I understand that Airflow's community is quite young and 
there are many things to work on for the core contributors, such as license 
cleaning as you mentioned. Keeping your plans and status on the very surface of 
what's going on may look not so important, however, lack of overwhelming meta 
information is very likely to be a blocker for more people to become engaged 
with Airflow and start contributing.

I personally in a bit of doubt about betting on Airflow because of not having a 
good picture of it in my head and seeing some not very good looking trends with 
issue resolving (the graph on 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW/?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:summary-panel
 looks more and more red). Many others may be in doubt too (in fact, they might 
more sceptical because not everyone has been diligently attempting to watch all 
recent Airflow talks and investigating what the transition to Apache might 
mean).

What I'd like to ask for is some publicly available "where we are and where we 
are going" status update from the developers, ideally once in a week or at 
least fortnightly. Release roadmap, important issues, links to discussions, 
etc., i.e. some entry-point for those who don't have much time, but are 
curious. Despite that this activity wont bring you any instant gain in a form 
of a new feature or a bug fix, it will likely engage more people into Airflow 
so things will start improving faster.

> Release plans & info
> 
>
> Key: AIRFLOW-497
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-497
> Project: Apache Airflow
>  Issue Type: Wish
>  Components: core, docs
>Reporter: Alexander Kachkaev
>Priority: Minor
>  Labels: build, newbie, release
>
> I did a couple of experiments with airflow several months ago and returned to 
> explore it properly this week. After a few days of quite intensive reading 
> and hacking it still remains unclear to me what's going on with the project 
> ATM.
> The latest release is 1.7.1.3, which dates back to 2016-06-13 (three months 
> from now). The docs on pythonhosted sometimes refer to 1.8 and git blame 
> reveals that these mentionings have been there since at least April 2016. 
> JIRA's dashboard has references to versions 1.8 and 2.0, but those only 
> contain lists with issues - no deadline etc.
> I imagine that core developers have a clear picture about the situation and 
> it is probably possible to figure things out from the mailing list and 
> gitter, However, it would be good to see roadmap etc. in a slightly more 
> accessible way.
> More frequent releases will help a lot as well. I'm seeing some issues when 
> running 1.7.1.3 via docker-airflow / celery, but it's totally unclear whether 
> these still exist on airflow's master branch or even something's wrong with 
> the docker wrapper I'm using. Opening an issue in JIRA seems somewhat stupid 
> in this situation.
> Could anyone please increase the clarity of meta?



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[jira] [Commented] (AIRFLOW-497) Release plans & info

2016-09-09 Thread Arthur Wiedmer (JIRA)

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Arthur Wiedmer commented on AIRFLOW-497:


Hi Alexander,

I think I can leave a quick update here. While the committers and various 
contributors have worked on several improvements, we have been blocked on 
navigating our first apache release (a decent amount of contributors are new to 
this process and it takes a little getting used to).

The main issues that the next release will address are licensing issues, 
stripping out components that were not compatible with the Apache License as 
well as a few bug fixes. We hope to be able to release more often in the future 
once we document the release process internally and make sure we are starting 
with the right base to be a successful project under the Apache umbrella.

A general idea of the improvement roadmap can be found on the wiki : 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/AIRFLOW/Roadmap

Feel free to ping the dev mailing list also if you have more questions or want 
to start a conversation about releases.

Best,
Arthur

> Release plans & info
> 
>
> Key: AIRFLOW-497
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AIRFLOW-497
> Project: Apache Airflow
>  Issue Type: Wish
>  Components: core, docs
>Reporter: Alexander Kachkaev
>Priority: Minor
>  Labels: build, newbie, release
>
> I did a couple of experiments with airflow several months ago and returned to 
> explore it properly this week. After a few days of quite intensive reading 
> and hacking it still remains unclear to me what's going on with the project 
> ATM.
> The latest release is 1.7.1.3, which dates back to 2016-06-13 (three months 
> from now). The docs on pythonhosted sometimes refer to 1.8 and git blame 
> reveals that these mentionings have been there since at least April 2016. 
> JIRA's dashboard has references to versions 1.8 and 2.0, but those only 
> contain lists with issues - no deadline etc.
> I imagine that core developers have a clear picture about the situation and 
> it is probably possible to figure things out from the mailing list and 
> gitter, However, it would be good to see roadmap etc. in a slightly more 
> accessible way.
> More frequent releases will help a lot as well. I'm seeing some issues when 
> running 1.7.1.3 via docker-airflow / celery, but it's totally unclear whether 
> these still exist on airflow's master branch or even something's wrong with 
> the docker wrapper I'm using. Opening an issue in JIRA seems somewhat stupid 
> in this situation.
> Could anyone please increase the clarity of meta?



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