[jira] [Commented] (HELIX-541) Possible livelock in Helix controller
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HELIX-541?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14221280#comment-14221280 ] kishore gopalakrishna commented on HELIX-541: - Great find Jason. One thing I dint understand is if the num replica is 2, why is node_1 not going to offline. If node_1 reached OFFLINE then the controller could have moved node_0 to STANDBY and then node_2 could reach LEADER Possible livelock in Helix controller --- Key: HELIX-541 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HELIX-541 Project: Apache Helix Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Zhen Zhang We discover a livelock bug in Helix controller. This leads to HELIX-540. Assuming we have 3 partitions and 2 nodes, using LeaderStandby state model, FULL_AUTO mode, and replica is 2. When reaching stable mapping, we might have the following: {noformat} partition_0: node_0: LEADER node_1: STANDBY partition_1: node_1: LEADER node_0: STANDBY partition_2: node_0: LEADER node_1: STANDBY {noformat} Later we add a new node (node_2) to the cluster and rebalancer decides that node_2 should become LEADER for partition_2. So controller first sends OFFLINE-STANDBY transition to node_2, and the mapping becomes: {noformat} partition_0: node_0: LEADER node_1: STANDBY partition_1: node_1: LEADER node_0: STANDBY partition_2: node_0: LEADER node_1: STANDBY node_2: STANDBY {noformat} Note that given LEADER state count is 1 and STANDBY state count is R, where R=2, it is implying the following state constraints: {noformat} LEADER: upper_bound=1 STANDBY: upper_bound=2 {noformat} Helix controller now enters the livelock: it can't send STANDBY-LEADER to node_2, since this will violate LEADER upper bound; it can't send LEADER-STANDBY to node_0 either, since will violate STANDBY upper bound. We can solve the problem in several ways: 1) State count definition is ambiguous. For some state, like LEADER, when we say state_count=1, that means we can't violate this constraint at any time. However, for some other state, like STANDBY, when we say state_count=R, that means in stable mapping, there should be R-1 STANDBY replicas, but we don't care the count in any transient state. In this case, we can set STANDBY upper_bound to be larger than 2. Note that this doesn't solve the problem in general. We may have some state model that has a restrict requirement on STANDBY state. 2) Using state transition priority. If we define LEADER-STANDBY transition should have a higher priority than OFFLINE-STANDBY transition, it will solve the livelock. But this doesn't solve the problem in general either, because when the state model gets complicated, it's hard to define and prove proper transition priorities that avoid livelock in any situation. 3) The root cause of the problem is that Helix controller uses a greedy algorithm that only looks one step ahead. In the example, if Helix controller can look two steps further, then it will find out that sending OFFLINE-STANDBY transition to node_2 will lead to a dead end, therefore it should choose to send LEADER-STANDBY to node_0 instead. In general we might need to do a DFS/BFS and it's hard if state model is complicated and system is large. In practice, most systems use simple state models with less than 5 states and have strict state constraint on a single state (e.g MASTER, LEADER) only. We can avoid livelock by carefully choosing state constraints. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332)
[jira] [Commented] (HELIX-541) Possible livelock in Helix controller
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HELIX-541?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=14221312#comment-14221312 ] Zhen Zhang commented on HELIX-541: -- because the new ideal-state is: {noformat} node_2: LEADER node_1: STANDBY {noformat} and the current-state is: {noformat} node_0: LEADER node_1: STANDBY {noformat} controller figures out it has to send two transitions: {noformat} To node_0: LEADER-STANDBY To node_2: OFFLINE-STANDBY {noformat} node_1 remains in STANDBY so controller will not send any transition to it. Possible livelock in Helix controller --- Key: HELIX-541 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HELIX-541 Project: Apache Helix Issue Type: Bug Reporter: Zhen Zhang We discover a livelock bug in Helix controller. This leads to HELIX-540. Assuming we have 3 partitions and 2 nodes, using LeaderStandby state model, FULL_AUTO mode, and replica is 2. When reaching stable mapping, we might have the following: {noformat} partition_0: node_0: LEADER node_1: STANDBY partition_1: node_1: LEADER node_0: STANDBY partition_2: node_0: LEADER node_1: STANDBY {noformat} Later we add a new node (node_2) to the cluster and rebalancer decides that node_2 should become LEADER for partition_2. So controller first sends OFFLINE-STANDBY transition to node_2, and the mapping becomes: {noformat} partition_0: node_0: LEADER node_1: STANDBY partition_1: node_1: LEADER node_0: STANDBY partition_2: node_0: LEADER node_1: STANDBY node_2: STANDBY {noformat} Note that given LEADER state count is 1 and STANDBY state count is R, where R=2, it is implying the following state constraints: {noformat} LEADER: upper_bound=1 STANDBY: upper_bound=2 {noformat} Helix controller now enters the livelock: it can't send STANDBY-LEADER to node_2, since this will violate LEADER upper bound; it can't send LEADER-STANDBY to node_0 either, since will violate STANDBY upper bound. We can solve the problem in several ways: 1) State count definition is ambiguous. For some state, like LEADER, when we say state_count=1, that means we can't violate this constraint at any time. However, for some other state, like STANDBY, when we say state_count=R, that means in stable mapping, there should be R-1 STANDBY replicas, but we don't care the count in any transient state. In this case, we can set STANDBY upper_bound to be larger than 2. Note that this doesn't solve the problem in general. We may have some state model that has a restrict requirement on STANDBY state. 2) Using state transition priority. If we define LEADER-STANDBY transition should have a higher priority than OFFLINE-STANDBY transition, it will solve the livelock. But this doesn't solve the problem in general either, because when the state model gets complicated, it's hard to define and prove proper transition priorities that avoid livelock in any situation. 3) The root cause of the problem is that Helix controller uses a greedy algorithm that only looks one step ahead. In the example, if Helix controller can look two steps further, then it will find out that sending OFFLINE-STANDBY transition to node_2 will lead to a dead end, therefore it should choose to send LEADER-STANDBY to node_0 instead. In general we might need to do a DFS/BFS and it's hard if state model is complicated and system is large. In practice, most systems use simple state models with less than 5 states and have strict state constraint on a single state (e.g MASTER, LEADER) only. We can avoid livelock by carefully choosing state constraints. -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332)