Re: Grace period for 1.13 users to upgrade to 1.14? (was: svn commit: r1877222 - /subversion/site/publish/docs/release-notes/1.14.html)

2020-05-01 Thread Mark Phippard
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 12:47 PM Daniel Shahaf 
wrote:

> danie...@apache.org wrote on Thu, 30 Apr 2020 16:21 -:
> > +++ subversion/site/publish/docs/release-notes/1.14.html Thu Apr 30
> 16:21:48 2020
> > @@ -1330,6 +1330,20 @@ if they occur.
> > +
> > +Subversion 1.13.x is end of life
> > +   > +title="Link to this section">¶
> > +
> > +
> > +The Subversion 1.13.x line is end of life (EOL).
> > +This doesn't mean that your 1.13 installation is doomed; if it works
> > +well and is all you need, that's fine.  "End of life" just means we've
> > +stopped accepting bug reports against 1.13.x versions, and will not
> > +make any more 1.13.x releases.
>
> I just copied the text we use for 1.9, but there's a distinction: users
> of 1.9 have had time to upgrade to 1.10 before 1.14.0 becomes GA,
> whereas users of 1.13 have not.  So, should we promise some sort of
> grace period for users of 1.13.x — i.e., a period following the release
> of 1.14.0 during which we'll still fix security bugs in 1.13.0?
>
> Granted, 1.13 was a regular release and was only promised to be
> supported for six months (or until 1.14.0) in the first place, so the
> grace period needn't be long.
>

My recollection is that we gave 1.9 special treatment because 1.10 was the
first release with the new LTS policy in place. So we said we would handle
1.9 the same way we would have prior to the new policy. I do not see any
reason to give 1.13 special treatment. We created the LTS policy and we
should plan on sticking to it. It is not like we do not have the option of
doing whatever we want when and if a security issue actually crops up.

-- 
Thanks

Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/


Grace period for 1.13 users to upgrade to 1.14? (was: svn commit: r1877222 - /subversion/site/publish/docs/release-notes/1.14.html)

2020-04-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
danie...@apache.org wrote on Thu, 30 Apr 2020 16:21 -:
> +++ subversion/site/publish/docs/release-notes/1.14.html Thu Apr 30 16:21:48 
> 2020
> @@ -1330,6 +1330,20 @@ if they occur.
> +
> +Subversion 1.13.x is end of life
> +   +title="Link to this section">¶
> +
> +
> +The Subversion 1.13.x line is end of life (EOL).
> +This doesn't mean that your 1.13 installation is doomed; if it works
> +well and is all you need, that's fine.  "End of life" just means we've
> +stopped accepting bug reports against 1.13.x versions, and will not
> +make any more 1.13.x releases.

I just copied the text we use for 1.9, but there's a distinction: users
of 1.9 have had time to upgrade to 1.10 before 1.14.0 becomes GA,
whereas users of 1.13 have not.  So, should we promise some sort of
grace period for users of 1.13.x — i.e., a period following the release
of 1.14.0 during which we'll still fix security bugs in 1.13.0?

Granted, 1.13 was a regular release and was only promised to be
supported for six months (or until 1.14.0) in the first place, so the
grace period needn't be long.

Cheers,

Daniel