Re: [VOTE] Push back code freeze for 0.21

2009-07-24 Thread Eric Baldeschwieler

AGGHH!

Let's not push out the general freeze even as far as sept 4th if  
possible.  I'd suggest oct 31st.  If we push out the general freeze  
until append is complete, we will delay having a stable release with  
append at least an additional month.


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From: Nigel Daley nda...@yahoo-inc.com
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:30:55 -0700
To: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Push back code freeze for 0.21


There's a 3rd option I'd support.  Feature freeze on Sept 4, except
for Append which gets a 2 week extension.  This allows us to start
stabilizing the rest of the code base while Append is finished up.

Nige

On Jul 24, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:

 I second Konstantin's point: FI tests are likely to take a pretty
 hefty chunk of overall dev. time. Considering that people'd be
 facing a certain learning curve to master this new technology we are
 likely to need more time for the completion of the development of
 the code  tests.

 +1 for farther push back, e.g. until 9/18/09

 Konstantin (aka Cos)

 On 7/24/09 4:18 PM, Konstantin Shvachko wrote:
 I would like to clarify the append plans.
 Right now according to our planning schedule we need about
 8 weeks to complete the implementation of the design.
 This will include all the functionality and unit testing
 according to the test plan.

 September 4 deadline gives us about 6 weeks to commit the features.
 Which is 2 weeks short off our schedule.
 This of course if the implementation will not go much faster than
 we predicted :-).

 So, we can either move the freeze a couple of weeks further ahead.
 Or we can also use some help from the people familiar with the
 design.
 E.g. there is a lot of hours scheduled to unit test writing using
 fault
 injection, etc.

 Thanks,
 --Konstantin

 Amr Awadallah wrote:
 +1 for stable append.

 -- amr

 Dhruba Borthakur wrote:
 +1





 On 7/24/09, Jim Kellerman
 (POWERSET)jim.keller...@microsoft.com  wrote:

 +1


 -Original Message-
 From: Owen O'Malley [mailto:omal...@apache.org]
 Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 1:11 PM
 To: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
 Subject: [VOTE] Push back code freeze for 0.21

 I'd like to push the date for the code freeze back to 4
 September to
 give the file append more time to be finished well. Clearly,
 I'm +1.

 -- Owen




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Re: [VOTE] Push back code freeze for 0.21

2009-07-24 Thread Sanjay Radia


On Jul 24, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Eric Baldeschwieler wrote:


AGGHH!

Let's not push out the general freeze even as far as sept 4th if
possible.  I'd suggest oct 31st.


You mean Aug 31?
sanjay



If we push out the general freeze
until append is complete, we will delay having a stable release with
append at least an additional month.

E14



 From: Nigel Daley nda...@yahoo-inc.com
 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:30:55 -0700
 To: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Push back code freeze for 0.21


 There's a 3rd option I'd support.  Feature freeze on Sept 4, except
 for Append which gets a 2 week extension.  This allows us to start
 stabilizing the rest of the code base while Append is finished up.

 Nige

 On Jul 24, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Konstantin Boudnik wrote:

  I second Konstantin's point: FI tests are likely to take a pretty
  hefty chunk of overall dev. time. Considering that people'd be
  facing a certain learning curve to master this new technology we  
are

  likely to need more time for the completion of the development of
  the code  tests.
 
  +1 for farther push back, e.g. until 9/18/09
 
  Konstantin (aka Cos)
 
  On 7/24/09 4:18 PM, Konstantin Shvachko wrote:
  I would like to clarify the append plans.
  Right now according to our planning schedule we need about
  8 weeks to complete the implementation of the design.
  This will include all the functionality and unit testing
  according to the test plan.
 
  September 4 deadline gives us about 6 weeks to commit the  
features.

  Which is 2 weeks short off our schedule.
  This of course if the implementation will not go much faster than
  we predicted :-).
 
  So, we can either move the freeze a couple of weeks further  
ahead.

  Or we can also use some help from the people familiar with the
  design.
  E.g. there is a lot of hours scheduled to unit test writing using
  fault
  injection, etc.
 
  Thanks,
  --Konstantin
 
  Amr Awadallah wrote:
  +1 for stable append.
 
  -- amr
 
  Dhruba Borthakur wrote:
  +1
 
 
 
 
 
  On 7/24/09, Jim Kellerman
  (POWERSET)jim.keller...@microsoft.com  wrote:
 
  +1
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Owen O'Malley [mailto:omal...@apache.org]
  Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 1:11 PM
  To: common-dev@hadoop.apache.org
  Subject: [VOTE] Push back code freeze for 0.21
 
  I'd like to push the date for the code freeze back to 4
  September to
  give the file append more time to be finished well. Clearly,
  I'm +1.
 
  -- Owen
 
 
 
 
  --
  With best regards,
Konstantin Boudnik (aka Cos)
 
 Yahoo! Grid Computing
 +1 (408) 349-4049
 
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