[jira] [Commented] (HADOOP-7977) Allow Hadoop clients and services to run in an OSGi container

2012-10-31 Thread Kihwal Lee (JIRA)

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Kihwal Lee commented on HADOOP-7977:


Do you have any jira/patch that adds the hadoop-karaf module?

 Allow Hadoop clients and services to run in an OSGi container
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 Key: HADOOP-7977
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-7977
 Project: Hadoop Common
  Issue Type: New Feature
  Components: util
Affects Versions: 0.24.0
 Environment: OSGi client runtime (Spring c), possibly service 
 runtime (e.g. Apache Karaf)
Reporter: Steve Loughran
Priority: Minor

 There's been past discussion on running Hadoop client and service code in 
 OSGi. This JIRA issue exists to wrap up the needs and issues. 
 # client-side use of public Hadoop APIs would seem most important.
 # service-side deployments could offer benefits. The non-standard Hadoop Java 
 security configuration may interfere with this goal.
 # testing would all be functional with dependencies on external services, to 
 make things harder.

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[jira] [Commented] (HADOOP-7977) Allow Hadoop clients and services to run in an OSGi container

2012-03-06 Thread Commented

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Jean-Baptiste Onofré commented on HADOOP-7977:
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I provided a first patch for the OSGi statements in the Hadoop Common MANIFEST 
files.

The second step is to use blueprint to register Hadoop part as OSGi services.

 Allow Hadoop clients and services to run in an OSGi container
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 Key: HADOOP-7977
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-7977
 Project: Hadoop Common
  Issue Type: New Feature
  Components: util
Affects Versions: 0.24.0
 Environment: OSGi client runtime (Spring c), possibly service 
 runtime (e.g. Apache Karaf)
Reporter: Steve Loughran
Priority: Minor

 There's been past discussion on running Hadoop client and service code in 
 OSGi. This JIRA issue exists to wrap up the needs and issues. 
 # client-side use of public Hadoop APIs would seem most important.
 # service-side deployments could offer benefits. The non-standard Hadoop Java 
 security configuration may interfere with this goal.
 # testing would all be functional with dependencies on external services, to 
 make things harder.

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[jira] [Commented] (HADOOP-7977) Allow Hadoop clients and services to run in an OSGi container

2012-02-24 Thread Steve Loughran (Commented) (JIRA)

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Steve Loughran commented on HADOOP-7977:


To answer Sanjay's questions in HADOOP-6484:

h5. Benefits and target audience: Is this work targeted for managing/running 
hadoop for developers or for production use? Briefly describe the benefits.

# it could be used for better deployment/management of the services *in small 
clusters*, where the memory requirements of the NN and JT aren't great, and 
being able to deploy in a single process the entire set of services for a 
worker node or a (single) master node would result in a lighter system load.

# If the TT started (marked) tasks within the OSGi container (or a preloaded 
peer OSGi container), Map and Reduce jobs would be able to execute without all 
the JVM startup delays.

h5. Besides adding the manifests to jar files will it require adding more 
invasive changes such as special interfaces for stopping and starting hadoop 
daemons?

* Adding the headers will have no impact on the existing daemons, because they 
don't run in an OSGi container.

* Nor does any of the Hadoop code play games with classloaders, which is one 
thing that OSGi does differently.

* HADOOP-5731 shows a problem which existed when trying to run IPC under a 
security manager; this may be a barrier to OSGI Container use. If it exists 
client-side that is something that may need fixing anyway, if it is still there 
after a switch to protobuf everywhere.

* the MRv2 service model could be re-used by some OSGi helper code that could 
manage the lifecycle of things, because you no longer need per-service code to 
start/stop services. 

* I'd expect there to be some new entry points needed to start the services 
under OSGi, but they should be wrapper layers on the existing code. If they 
depended on OSGi services they could be off to one side; if they needed to be 
in the same package as existing stuff things might get trickier.

h5. Will this be used for management after deployment has been done through 
some other mechanism or will this work also enable the deployment in a cluster?

* Karaf is interesting in that not only is it yet-another-OSGi container, it is 
one that has a built in SSHD, so anyone can ssh in remotely, authenticate 
themselves and issue management commands: start/stop services, see logs, etc: 
[http://felix.apache.org/site/41-console-and-commands.html] -one that works on 
Windows too, which doesn't normally ship with an sshd.

* I wonder if you get at the logs through karaf -including any from jobs stored 
on the workers? That would be useful.

* Karaf itself doesn't do remote deployment, AFAIK. Bringing up a zookeeper 
client on each karaf instance and waiting for instructions via ZK could always 
be possible. 

Overall, I think it could be good, adding the headers is low risk, other 
features could be useful, though it will take some work to see what problems 
arise. 

 Allow Hadoop clients and services to run in an OSGi container
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 Key: HADOOP-7977
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-7977
 Project: Hadoop Common
  Issue Type: New Feature
  Components: util
Affects Versions: 0.24.0
 Environment: OSGi client runtime (Spring c), possibly service 
 runtime (e.g. Apache Karaf)
Reporter: Steve Loughran
Priority: Minor

 There's been past discussion on running Hadoop client and service code in 
 OSGi. This JIRA issue exists to wrap up the needs and issues. 
 # client-side use of public Hadoop APIs would seem most important.
 # service-side deployments could offer benefits. The non-standard Hadoop Java 
 security configuration may interfere with this goal.
 # testing would all be functional with dependencies on external services, to 
 make things harder.

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[jira] [Commented] (HADOOP-7977) Allow Hadoop clients and services to run in an OSGi container

2012-02-08 Thread Commented

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Jean-Baptiste Onofré commented on HADOOP-7977:
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I have something ready for that (patch will be submitted today), including the 
features for Apache Karaf.

Is someone can assign this Jira to me ?

 Allow Hadoop clients and services to run in an OSGi container
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 Key: HADOOP-7977
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-7977
 Project: Hadoop Common
  Issue Type: New Feature
  Components: util
Affects Versions: 0.24.0
 Environment: OSGi client runtime (Spring c), possibly service 
 runtime (e.g. Apache Karaf)
Reporter: Steve Loughran
Priority: Minor

 There's been past discussion on running Hadoop client and service code in 
 OSGi. This JIRA issue exists to wrap up the needs and issues. 
 # client-side use of public Hadoop APIs would seem most important.
 # service-side deployments could offer benefits. The non-standard Hadoop Java 
 security configuration may interfere with this goal.
 # testing would all be functional with dependencies on external services, to 
 make things harder.

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