Re: volunteeritis
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:20:29 -0800 Roy T. Fielding wrote: So, my word of warning is simply this: if you are feeling overwhelmed by what you have volunteered to do, don't just let it grow on you. Let others know -- encourage others to volunteer -- spend your time teaching them how to do things instead of just doing them yourself. +1 -- If there're anyone who think the moderation of XX mailing lists would be burdens for them, please let me know. I think I can take over these tasks. # I am now moderating 4 mailing lists. As root@ and apmail@ # can see, these 4 lists would have less moderation pending # messages @ daedalus machine, I am sure. By the way, i know that i am not a *good developer* but want to be an excellent marketer. This is my wish and what I can do for apache.org. Knowing what ONE *can* do might be more precious and more important than defining what ONE *should* do in volunteer activities, I guess. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ Apache Software Foundation Committer: http://www.apache.org/~tetsuya/ HBDI Herrmann Brain Model Facilitator: http://www.terra-intl.com/brain/ FingerPrint: E420 3713 FAB0 C160 4A1E 6FC5 5846 23D6 80AE BDEA - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Talk about ASF
Hi, I have been invited to give a talk on the Apache Software Foundation at the Linux Bangalore/2003 (http://linux-bangalore.org/2003) which bills itself as India's premier Linux/OpenSource event. I hope to give the audience an idea of what the ASF community is all about. A brief outline of my thoughts for the talk is at http://www.sengupta.net/pages/ASF.html I would be keen to get some advise from folks here.. what are the attributes of our community you would highlight at events like this. Regards - Avik PS. Feel free to reply individually if you feel this is OT for the list. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: What is a member?
Ceki Gülcü wrote: Roy Fielding once mentioned that anyone with a history of at least 6 months of sustained contributions was entitled to ASF membership. You have been offered membership in the past but you declined the offer. Correct? Yes, I'm not comfortable with some of the definitions of what is a member :-). There are plenty of people with lots of contributions, both code and community who are not members of ASF. I can't believe they don't believe in collaborative development, or are only interested in their own project. It's great that now the PMCs are growing to include most active committers - IMO ASF membership should be similar with PMC membership ( as admission criteria, etc ), i.e. based on contributions/merit and without all the superman stuff. In other words - church ( or party ) and state should be separated :-) Costin At 12:03 PM 11/27/2003 -0800, Costin Manolache wrote: There are many ways membership could be defined ( but it isn't ). Committers are assigning the (copy)rights of their work to ASF - and as was mentioned, the members own the code and all the IP of ASF. It would be nice ( and fair !) to have the membership based on some objective criteria on code and community contributions. I can't know the exact rules that are used - but sometimes it feels a lot more like membership to a political party. The scary thing is that some of the answers to what is a member ( and I've seen many of those during the last years ) sound too much like a certain party :-). I would assume most people who choose to give significant amounts of time and code to ASF are serious and serve the interests of the ASF. Costin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
