Re: anyone know the progress of the Maven top level proposal?

2003-03-06 Thread James Taylor
WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in
the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with
the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
open-source software related to Java software development tools
which are predicated on the  use of Maven's Project Object Model (POM),
for distribution at no charge to the public.
 
 i think that is an appropriate narrowing of scope, though it
 seems a bit self-referential.
 
 so let's start from here, shall we?  is the above wording satisfactory
 to the maven people?  is it satisfactory to the board?  if not in either
 case, let's try to constructively fix it, and leave personalities out of
 it.  let's work *together*.

It is reasonable. My only concern is that defining it as POM centric may
be too restrictive. I have always seen maven as a suite of project
management / analysis / comprehension tools which aim to be simple to
take advantage of yet flexible to extend (in other words, the most bang
for your buck). The POM has been a key factor in meeting these goals,
but in some ways is an implementation detail.

Already two of the seed projects we are interested in (the SCM
abstraction and the artifact download mechanism) are intended to be used
by maven, but also other projects, and thus independent of the POM.

So my question: is there anything preventing the project from
reevaluating and refining our charter in the future as the project
evolves? Is it even neccesary or do we just assume a project will evolve
and that is just the way it is?

-- jt


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Re: anyone know the progress of the Maven top level proposal?

2003-03-06 Thread Sam Ruby
James Taylor wrote:
So my question: is there anything preventing the project from
reevaluating and refining our charter in the future as the project
evolves? Is it even neccesary or do we just assume a project will evolve
and that is just the way it is?
The same process that is used to create a project (i.e., submitting a 
resolution to the board) can be used to ammend a project.

-- jt
- Sam Ruby

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Re: anyone know the progress of the Maven top level proposal?

2003-03-05 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
James Strachan wrote:
 Just wondered if anyone knew the boards latest view of the 'Maven as top
 level project' proposal? Its been a bit quiet lately - have I missed
 anything?

afaik, jason, dIon, and the board are refining the charter.  i think
that's the only thing.
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Re: anyone know the progress of the Maven top level proposal?

2003-03-05 Thread dion





I posted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] yesterday asking about the updated scope but
have yet to hear a reply.

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Date: 03/06/2003 05:23AM
Subject: Re: anyone know the progress of the Maven top level proposal?

James Strachan wrote:
 Just wondered if anyone knew the boards latest view of the 'Maven as top
 level project' proposal? Its been a bit quiet lately - have I missed
 anything?

afaik, jason, dIon, and the board are refining the charter.  i think
that's the only thing.
--
#ken P-)}

Ken Coar, Sanagendamgagwedweinini  http://Golux.Com/coar/
Author, developer, opinionist  http://Apache-Server.Com/

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