Re: Perl or Python on openembedded?
Dnia sobota, 10 lutego 2007, Joshua Hoblitt napisał: Does anyone know if Perl or Python will build on openembbeded/ep93xx? Both languages are supported. Perl 5.8.7, Python 2.4.x -- JID: hrw-jabber.org OpenEmbedded developer/consultant You can close your eyes to reality, but not to memories. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: T-Mobile finagling advice?
kkr wrote: Le vendredi 09 février 2007 à 20:33 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : snip For example, imagine an application that uses GPS location information to determine your car's proximity to your favorite grocery store on your way home. When you get to within 5 miles of the store, your Neo uses the GPRS to access a personal website page where your spouse keeps a grocery list. If there are any items on the list, the application downloads the and alerts you via your bluetooth earbud. snip I really like this idea :-) She must be added on the wiki not to be lost! One obvious optimisation for where GPRS may be very expensive is to simply send a SMS, compressed according to a shared database. ABC = Item 28, 3 of EGI = Item 187, 10*100ml of. Some 60 items per SMS, of a list of several hundred is probably suitable for most people. In most cases, the fact that you're going past the store is pretty irrelevant to the need for groceries. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: T-Mobile finagling advice?
Ian Stirling writes: In most cases, the fact that you're going past the store is pretty irrelevant to the need for groceries. Or, for most of us on the way home, the fact that you weren't going to be near the store has nothing to do with the fact that you are now going by the store... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Cross-device compatibility
Hey, I was wondering how much thought there's been put into making applications for OpenMoko compatible across different devices. Imagine in a couple of years, when OpenMoko has been put on 10+ different types of phones, all with different features. For instance, some will have GPS (like the NEO), some will have a big screen, while others will have small screens. Some will have touch-screens, while some will have a lot of buttons instead. Since we will be using GTK+, I can imagine that the composition of the interface will be totally up to the developer. What will then happen when we move these applications from a 480x640 screen to a much smaller one? On devices that use J2ME, the rendering of the different controls and menus are decided by the host device, which makes it possible for the developer to target a big range of devices with different display capabilities without putting much thought into the UI. Would it be possible to do the same on the OpenMoko platform? Also, since the applications for the Neo will use the touch-screen, there should be some usability guidelines, so developers makes their applications usable by keyboard-based phones too. What do you think? -Ulrik Rasmussen ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
stolen neo software, like MacLoJack
http://www.zdziarski.com/projects/maclojack/ We could provide a similar service in OpenMoko. When the device is reported stolen (from the web), a daemon on the phone will phone home (heh. To our webservice) current GPS location and pictures and stuff (with the GPS location, you're sorted, but not everyone will have a GPS supscription) -- Declan Naughton ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: T-Mobile finagling advice?
Unfortunatly, It looks to me like T-Mobile is currently not interested in letting its pre-paid customers use GPRS to go anywhere outside their Silly T-Zones walled garden. Let me guess. This contains such things as weather reports, news headlines, ringtones, ... All available for a small per-use-fee? Sigh. They see GPRS as a profit source, to drive profit to their own partners. Rather than a service to provide to users. That's a depressing prospect. All this openmoko and no web? I wonder if cingular is any better... Ben ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Neo Recycling Program (not too important, but something to think about...)
Being an Apple customer, I hate to buy Apple products because i know that my product will be updated very shortly after my purchase. With OpenMoko, I really, really, want the first generation Neo, but, Sean has already set a target release date for the 2nd generation of the phone. I am so conflicted. So, I propose a Neo Recycling Program in which any of the Neo phones could be returned to FIC/OpenMoko in exchange for the current generation of the phone. Of course, there would be a fee involved, based on the condition and life of the phone, but, you would still not have to pay the full price of the new phone. The old Neo's would then be refurbished and resold through FIC. Just something think about. -Ryan___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neo Recycling Program (not too important, but something to think about...)
On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 20:08 -0600, Ryan Kline wrote: Being an Apple customer, I hate to buy Apple products because i know that my product will be updated very shortly after my purchase. With OpenMoko, I really, really, want the first generation Neo, but, Sean has already set a target release date for the 2nd generation of the phone. I am so conflicted. So, I propose a Neo Recycling Program in which any of the Neo phones could be returned to FIC/OpenMoko in exchange for the current generation of the phone. Of course, there would be a fee involved, based on the condition and life of the phone, but, you would still not have to pay the full price of the new phone. The old Neo's would then be refurbished and resold through FIC. Just something think about. Recycling would be nice, and given the other recent assurance from Sean (below) would be a good way for FIC to get more phones in the hands of those who might have trouble with the $350 price tag, while allowing early adopters to get the latest-greatest next-generation devices. On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 02:09 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: ... I'll be talking more about this stuff in the coming months. I just don't want to say anything at this point. But don't worry about being an early adopter. If we come out with something cool we'll make sure you guys can get it at a discount if you already have a developers version. -Sean So, how about a trade-up program? Phil ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
If you receive a Neo...
Hey everyone-- It is almost Feb. 11th here in Dallas and I was thinking that it would be great if the developers that receive Neos tomorrow or in the coming days would post pictures/video to the discussion. Being a non- developer, I am so eager to see the phone and its interface. I envy those that get one, but enjoy!!! Thanks, Ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: T-Mobile finagling advice?
You should not have any problem getting GPRS to work as long as you are using their regular service. AFAIK, only their PREPAID service has the access to GPRS restricted. -Jason On Saturday 10 February 2007 12:40, Ben Burdette wrote: Unfortunatly, It looks to me like T-Mobile is currently not interested in letting its pre-paid customers use GPRS to go anywhere outside their Silly T-Zones walled garden. Let me guess. This contains such things as weather reports, news headlines, ringtones, ... All available for a small per-use-fee? Sigh. They see GPRS as a profit source, to drive profit to their own partners. Rather than a service to provide to users. That's a depressing prospect. All this openmoko and no web? I wonder if cingular is any better... Ben ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: T-Mobile finagling advice?
Unfortunatly, It looks to me like T-Mobile is currently not interested in letting its pre-paid customers use GPRS to go anywhere outside their Silly T-Zones walled garden. Let me guess. This contains such things as weather reports, news headlines, ringtones, ... All available for a small per-use-fee? No I've got a Linux phone with Opera on it, and it works just fine on TMobile in the US to access any web site. I'm guessing that since the phones they sell are locked down to just the TZones crap, that's why they offer such a low price for GPRS, because most users won't take much bandwidth. But actually you can do anything that the phone will let you do. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: If you receive a Neo...
2007/2/11, Ryan Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]: would be great if the developers that receive Neos tomorrow or in the coming days would post pictures/video to the discussion. Sure, I will publish Neo unboxing pictorial as soon as I get it :-) -- Tomek Z. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
