Re: Google SoC, To-Do
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the idea page came me to mind To-Do list. One may say it is simple, but I want to do quite powerful one and I think I will came to troubles with OpenMoko libs. So part of work would have to be bugfixing/adding features to OpenMoko libs. I would like to do something like 'call for papers' and collect ideas of whatever it should be able to do. You can mail me directly if you doesn't want to flood mailinglist. I will be putting ideas to wiki. Please see the bugtracker entries for openmoko-libs, there are also some feature wishes which may be google SoC project worthy, if they're not too small. :M: -- - Michael Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://openmoko.org/ Software for the worlds' first truly open Free Software mobile phone ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Idea: up-to-date business card
Interesting stuff, I checked the draft for 1.1 out: http://openid.net/specs/openid-simple-registration-extension-1_1-01.html As well as the main authentication specification. Also I signed up to an IdP and signed up to the OpenID Wiki as a test. Whilst OpenID is lovely stuff it does not at the moment seem appropriate for use in the way we intend. Which is pretty much what I expected in the first place. You have to authenticate every time you go to a site thereby proving your identity. If this authentication is successful then the IdP sends the authorised personal information back to the site you are logging into. So the bit that clashes with what we require is the regular user interaction. It would be nice to have an automated extension that allows a request for updated information from one verifiable OpenID to another. E.G. http://monkeyA.com (A) --- logs into his OpenID server and allows http://monkeyB.com (B) to see one of his personas. B --- adds A to his contacts. B's Pim application then contacts A's OpenID server for details A's OpenID server contacts B's OpenID server requiring B to authenticate. Now that A's OpenID server has authenticated B it sends A's persona to B's Pim application. I'm pretty sure there is no facility for this now. It would need to have security aspects checked and likely be an extension to the OpenID server. Initially it seems reasonable that if B can be authenticated and A has agreed to share a persona... Do you think this is worth pursuing with the people at OpenID? -Pete On 15/03/07, Pius A. Uzamere II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, The latest OpenID spec provides for this using the Simple Registration (SReg) extension. This functionality is optional for consumers and servers to implement. See http://openid.net/specs/openid-simple-registration-extension-1_0.html#response_formatfor more information. Cheers, Pius On 3/15/07, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree on the OpenID thing. I just got my OpenID created a couple of weeks ago. It's nice not relying on any one company to store you information. Does the OpenID spec allow for storing additional information besides just your password? -Steven On 3/15/07, Peter A Trotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be ideal trying to tie this in with OpenID authentication. I've not really had time to think this through fully but basically you would be replacing the one big store (Plaxo) with a distributed model. I was about to flesh that out a little but I think everyone can see where I am going. PIM app on phone updates contact info when required / when cheap connection is available. I need to research OpenID a bit more but I'm thinking this may be a no go because you'd probably need to re authenticate to update information. Seems my brain is not really working yet this morning. I think I need more information and less speculation. I leave this as food for thought... -Pete ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Looking for a mentor for Google SoC - interested in GPS-smart app devel
Dear OpenMoko community, I plan on writing and extending OpenMoko apps to take best advantage of GPS data, providing support to all OpenMoko apps via d-bus and providing useful built-in functions in the base Moko apps. My primary objectives are: 1) Write a library or daemon that provides simple geographically related data to Moko apps, such as creation and management of GPS points, distance between the phone and a point, finding the nearest point, generating a list of all points within a certain distance, etc. 2) Write a daemon that reports events based on geographical location or location relative to defined GPS nodes. This allows the phone to automatically perform tasks based on GPS data without each having to poll the GPS module by providing an event-driven geolocation architecture. 3) Write a GPS-smart todo list application that can give reminders based on location, generate a pared-down todo list based on location, and provides an API to other apps for parsing various structures (especially plain text, as might be received in an email or typed with the stylus, and info imported from calendars) into a todo list complete with geographic info. 4) Write GPS intelligence into a profile switching app, allowing automatic reconfiguration of the phone depending on geographical location or location relative to defined GPS points. Useful features include automatically going into drive-mode when driving, silent-mode when inside a theatre or symphony hall, silent mode (or disabled communications mode) when inside a public school, etc. 5) Integrate the above into an auto-task manager that can automatically perform tasks such as Sync with my latest email and calendar data as I walk/drive to work or Put music player at top of my commonly used apps list when I get to track practice. The same task manager can also incorporate data such as current time, number of emails in inbox, which day of the week, etc. The goal of this application is to allow sophisticated control over phone automation for power users and give a number of sane, useful options to basic phone users. Scope of the Summer of Code project: implement 1 and 2 solidly, laying the framework for the next ones; implement 3 4 and 5 as far as time allows, focusing more on function than polish (though with the OpenMoko application framework, polish isn't exactly hard to come by!) About me: I am 18 years old and a USA resident. I have been tinkering with computers all my life, but only started programming at 11. My name is Ryan and my primary interests are computers, microbiology, and world travel (I'm writing this from Europe). I enjoy long walks on the beach and longer hacking sessions afterwards. My development experience: The languages I am best with are Python, Scheme, and JavaScript. I am willing to (and know that I have to) learn C/C++, and I know a smattering of Perl, PHP, and Java. I have worked with a number of application frameworks including GTK+ and have spent a lot of time using (and being frustrated with) mobile phones. I am comfortable developing on a Linux computer, and use a Linux laptop as my primary development tool. I have written a bunch of programs but I have never contributed to open source projects before. I'm looking forward to the experience! I have used many open-source project management tools but I have never used CVS before. I'm good at picking these things things up and I have strong online communication skills, so I am optimistic that I can learn the ropes quickly. Thanks for reading -- if anybody is interested in mentoring me, please help me get the ball rolling for summer 2007! I'm really excited to watch OpenMoko development unfold and I am itching to be a part of it. Cheers, Ryan aka PirateHead ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
My Moko
Though not a developer, I have been following this list for some time with much interest. I am excited to see that wi-fi is being discuss again as a possibility in a future Neo. I know this phone is in my future. I just got a new puppy and named him Moko. People I meet around town like his name and when they ask me about it, I tell them about the openmoko project. Just my way of spreading the word. Someday, people will just say oh, mokoI have a phone connected with that. Mary P.S. wonder if there is a way to use the neo to locate lost dogs...like hang a mini Neo to its collar or be able to locate via an internal chip. Dog owners would love that. Cat owners too.;-))) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My Moko
On 3/16/07, Mary Stovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though not a developer, I have been following this list for some time with much interest. I am excited to see that wi-fi is being discuss again as a possibility in a future Neo. I know this phone is in my future. I am the same way, Ive wanted a properly working phone since I first got a cellphone, some 5 years ago now. Properly, in as much as the fully featured hardware being able to utilize new software rather than carriers hindering and forcing removal of hardware/software features. P.S. wonder if there is a way to use the neo to locate lost dogs...like hang a mini Neo to its collar or be able to locate via an internal chip. Dog owners would love that. Cat owners too.;-))) This technology has been quite popular for years now, in Japan. However, I dont think that until recently they used GPS signals, but rather the microcell architecture of the PHS phone system. Effectively you could expect an antenna box about as often as you see a phone box sticking in the ground/on a pole over here, so the tracking resolution is rather good without having to rely on triangulation. if you can get within 1 block of your dog, you can usually call to him :) Mike ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for a mentor for Google SoC - interested in GPS-smart app devel
Hello Ryan, I would be willing to mentor you, as I am interested in your proposed software. However, I don't have any software development experience with embedded systems or kernel modules. My experience is C/C++, Java, Lisp, PHP, HTML, etc. let me know if and how I can help. Michael Welter Denver, Colorado 303-414-4980 Ryan Prior wrote: Dear OpenMoko community, I plan on writing and extending OpenMoko apps to take best advantage of GPS data, providing support to all OpenMoko apps via d-bus and providing useful built-in functions in the base Moko apps. My primary objectives are: 1) Write a library or daemon that provides simple geographically related data to Moko apps, such as creation and management of GPS points, distance between the phone and a point, finding the nearest point, generating a list of all points within a certain distance, etc. 2) Write a daemon that reports events based on geographical location or location relative to defined GPS nodes. This allows the phone to automatically perform tasks based on GPS data without each having to poll the GPS module by providing an event-driven geolocation architecture. 3) Write a GPS-smart todo list application that can give reminders based on location, generate a pared-down todo list based on location, and provides an API to other apps for parsing various structures (especially plain text, as might be received in an email or typed with the stylus, and info imported from calendars) into a todo list complete with geographic info. 4) Write GPS intelligence into a profile switching app, allowing automatic reconfiguration of the phone depending on geographical location or location relative to defined GPS points. Useful features include automatically going into drive-mode when driving, silent-mode when inside a theatre or symphony hall, silent mode (or disabled communications mode) when inside a public school, etc. 5) Integrate the above into an auto-task manager that can automatically perform tasks such as Sync with my latest email and calendar data as I walk/drive to work or Put music player at top of my commonly used apps list when I get to track practice. The same task manager can also incorporate data such as current time, number of emails in inbox, which day of the week, etc. The goal of this application is to allow sophisticated control over phone automation for power users and give a number of sane, useful options to basic phone users. Scope of the Summer of Code project: implement 1 and 2 solidly, laying the framework for the next ones; implement 3 4 and 5 as far as time allows, focusing more on function than polish (though with the OpenMoko application framework, polish isn't exactly hard to come by!) About me: I am 18 years old and a USA resident. I have been tinkering with computers all my life, but only started programming at 11. My name is Ryan and my primary interests are computers, microbiology, and world travel (I'm writing this from Europe). I enjoy long walks on the beach and longer hacking sessions afterwards. My development experience: The languages I am best with are Python, Scheme, and JavaScript. I am willing to (and know that I have to) learn C/C++, and I know a smattering of Perl, PHP, and Java. I have worked with a number of application frameworks including GTK+ and have spent a lot of time using (and being frustrated with) mobile phones. I am comfortable developing on a Linux computer, and use a Linux laptop as my primary development tool. I have written a bunch of programs but I have never contributed to open source projects before. I'm looking forward to the experience! I have used many open-source project management tools but I have never used CVS before. I'm good at picking these things things up and I have strong online communication skills, so I am optimistic that I can learn the ropes quickly. Thanks for reading -- if anybody is interested in mentoring me, please help me get the ball rolling for summer 2007! I'm really excited to watch OpenMoko development unfold and I am itching to be a part of it. Cheers, Ryan aka PirateHead ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
openmoko future
I have been very interested in the openmoko development and I see a lot of potential. I was just wondering where the openmoko project is projecting it's self to be in the next 5-10 years. For example will it stick to phones or will it also include PC's? Will it have a server version? I think this could be a real amazing operating system/platform/firmware. You can see Apple and Microsoft jumping all over this 3rd generation UI tools. I think Apple is focusing on the touch and Microsoft on the Voice. I think openmoko is in a unique position to offer both, as I have noticed posts about the sound analyzing also. Wouldn't it be great if you could work on your computer and then on your way home just pick up your neo and start working on it on the bus, train, subway, or when you get home. You could have an openmoko server that your pc connected to, your phone connected to, and you know maybe a future tablet based computer that connected to it. It could manage all your documents. Then you could have a storage space, control backups, data protection, and the list goes on. I wish I knew more about being a developer. I am a student now and am about to start my operating systems class. I hope I will be able to contribute more to the project in the future. I am just wondering what the projects future plans are. Here are some cool links to the touch pad technology. It was a presentation done by Jeff Han and he just finished another one this tuesday I believe but the video is not released yet. Here is the link where you will find the one he did over a year ago. And keep posted for the new one. http://www.ted.com/tedtalks/tedtalksplayer.cfm?key=j_han It's a cool site any way. Maybe someday openmoko will be presenting there also. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
