[Fwd: Re: Mokomake mkae setup fails]
Resend Original Message Subject: Re: Mokomake mkae setup fails Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:24:59 +0930 From: Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ewan Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: community@lists.openmoko.org References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ewan Marshall wrote: Make setup for mokomakefile is giving this error: mtn: error: I/O failure while talking to peer monotone.openembedded.org, disconnecting This I can do nothing about. Either OpenMoko Inc. needs to find a monotone server that can handle the load, or you just need to keep retrying until it gets through. There are other mirror OpenEmbedded monotone servers, but none that are marked as official (i.e. either have an openembedded.org or openmoko.org domain), so I will leave it up to the owners of those domains to bless mirrors by adding them to one of those domains. [Some might say use ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl instead, but I don't think OpenMoko should depend on a server which is scheduled for disconnection without notice, and that is owned by a University that threatens you if you add a CNAME in another domain to one of their servers.] mtn: error: branch org.openembedded.dev has multiple heads The latest version of MokoMakefile will select one head and use that. make update-makefile to get it. -- Rod ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Michael Welter Telecom Matters Corp. Denver, Colorado US +1.303.414.4980 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.TelecomMatters.net ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko at Embedded Systems Conference?
I keep getting bugged for it too, and I've been saying end of March also. But there's now only 2 days left in March, so what should I begin telling people that ask? Dunc Steven ** wrote: Yah. I was wondering about that. A friend of mine keeps bugging me asking when is it going to be available? I just keep responding end of March. We wait with bated breath. -Steven On 3/27/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not at this time. We're all busy trying to get hardware shipping. -Sean ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Audio I/O questions
Salve Gabriel! Gabriel Ambuehl schrieb am Mittwoch, den 28. März 2007 um 08:38h: On Wednesday 28 March 2007 00:52:20 Robert Michel wrote: Ahh.. I can hear it with the Neo1973 headset as well, wenn I pull out the headset for 0,7mm - mybe my 2,5 mm 4 pin jack is not accurat enough. I got the reason - the jacks I bought does haven has a ring with screw thread (connected with ground) with a diameter of 7.5 mm (and the 4-pole) pin is inside). The first jack I soldernd had this ring a little bit more to the outside - also both jacks I bought does not have accurate 90 degree between pin and ring and the ring has 7.5 mm in the diameter - the official headset jack only 4.5 mm so that could be the reason for pulling out a bit more... So the second jack works fine. So comparing with 3.5 mm or 5 mm jacks the tolerances with 2,5 are quite low and when you buy a jack in a shop IMHO would worth a deep look about them. Removing the ring and the 18 mm long GND banner give an adapter like the one glued into plastic of the 90 degree angel jack of the official headset. I would not encourage to use an jack without a 90 degree angel connected to the neo inside of a pocket - this 2.5 cm long adapater would gave a to much high moment on the jack on the PCB. Not strictly what you asked, but working adapter jacks for Moto V360 (which as I understand would work) can be had on Ebay for 20cents plus shipping... Yes, they also have a angel jack... :) But they are only for headphones. Selfsolderd adapter will have the advantage to be able to use the mic in as well ;) Greetings, rob ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person
Don't forget that phones have vibrators. They could be used in cunning ways with a relatively simple UI to provide feedback and thus usability of touchscreens for even completely blind people. On 3/27/07, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 27 March 2007 10:23:08 Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. wrote: There's so much to do for blind person and we can do it together so think guys and please provide some solutions and thoughts. I would imagine that a touchscreen only phone is quite hard to use for blind people as opposed to a phone with proper keys? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person
I forgot mentioning pocketsphinx (voice recognition), which has an openembedded port already ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Voice synthesizer for blind and visual impaired person
Hi I've been recently confronted to these questions for the tuxdroid project (which i intend to run on a NAS/Home router). About text-to-speech, eSpeak seems really interesting for embedded devices, plus it's more or less the only 100% free sotfware of this category (others, like festival / flite * for embedded *, are free, but not their voice models..). http://www2.tux-is-alive.com/wiki/Text-to-speech As for in-app integration: http://www.speechio.org/ About speech recognition, i'd say that it's today very hard if not impossible to get a working dication feature. The best option may be to skip it, and concentrate on command launching: more basic pattern-based recognition. A great option (if we manage to make it run) is CVoiceControl, but it needs maintainers: the project is down. http://www.kiecza.net/daniel/linux/ See http://www2.tux-is-alive.com/wiki/Speech_recognition for our preliminary evaluations and resources/links ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
VoIP call transfer?
I have an itch that I would like to explain to you and give an idea of how to overcome that itch and see if that is possible or not, and if so a good idea or not. So first here is my itch. I have a VoIP phone at home which uses my WiFi connection to make calls using skype. I like that it helps lower my cell phone bills a lot since I started a new business and it takes a lot of calls to make it sucessful. But I am not always at home sometimes I am just 5 minutes out from home and recieve a phone call I talk on the way home and then to cut my minutes short I tell them I will call them right back and then hang up switch to my VoIP phone. That gets old sometimes. Granted it is not a very big itch but it is annoying. So I have come up with several solutions. First, with the neo I could get a plan that includes data with my minutes and I could use skype or some other VoIP solution like astrisk. Which in turn would be great. Oh also another question can you get a data only plan? Just curious I know some people may or may not have mentioned it but the thread that it was mentioned in has over 80 e-mails and couldn't find it right off. But let's pretend that for somereason you didn't want to add a data plan to your mobile device because it was too expensive or what ever. Would it be possible for the neo to know when you step into range of a WiFi network that you have acess to? And after it notices the WiFi connection it pops up a button on the screen that say's transfer to VoIP? You say hold on a sec and press the button. The neo then puts the user on hold and transfers the call to your VoIP line on your neo where you pick it up, or the neo picks it up. The voice line then hangs up the call and puts the person back on the line with you. Does that make since? Also when making a call and I am in range of a WiFi network a check box or a seperate call with VoIP button appears that allows you to place the same call over the VoIP? Does that make since? Just wanting to get everyones opinions on this. This is a feature that I would like very much. I have internet at home which has a 15Mbps transfer rate with a 1000GB cap so I should be free and clear with this. I would love to have this feature. I would like to learn how to do this on the neo but would definatly need more time to research it out. Plus I would need more time to work on it, maybe when I graduate school. I would also need someone to help me. Any ways I am starting to ramble so please let me know what you think about this? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VoIP call transfer?
Apologies if this arrives twice... For starters, a friendly reminder that it's spelled sense. That said, the way to do this is not with skype, but with Asterisk. If you route ALL your incoming calls through an asterisk box (whether hosted by you, or by a service provider) it should be possible to manage completely seamless transitions. It would look something like this: Your contact calls your phone number (a voip DID number) the call is routed to your asterisk box your asterisk box checks to see if you're in a WiFi area You are presented with the call, with the option to take it via wifi or gsm If you take it via wifi, your asterisk box routes the call via SIP or IAX directly to your phone. If you take it via GSM, your asterisk box calls the PSTN and routes the call through itself to the phone via the regular cell network When you transition zones (going to wifi from gsm, or the other way around), the asterisk box establishes a call via the other protocol, bridges the voice, then once your neo device has fully transitioned itself over to the new medium, it disconnects the previous call. So your contact never has direct access to your cell number. Instead, they call your voip number which is routed as is convenient for you. When you transition zones, the most trouble you will have is perhaps a slightly click or momentary dead air as the device transitions over. If you accidentally wander out of range of your wifi, the asterisk box will notice this and automatically call you via gsm, which the phone will pick up automatically. This won't be as seamless, but it won't result in a completely lost call. It's also worth noting that this system can be functional for outgoing calls as well, so long as you route all calls via your asterisk box. This has the side effect of making international calls via from your cell cheap and easy. Paul p.s. Ignore the guy who has no imagination... most things are possible with a little thought. On 3/28/07, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an itch that I would like to explain to you and give an idea of how to overcome that itch and see if that is possible or not, and if so a good idea or not. So first here is my itch. I have a VoIP phone at home which uses my WiFi connection to make calls using skype. I like that it helps lower my cell phone bills a lot since I started a new business and it takes a lot of calls to make it sucessful. But I am not always at home sometimes I am just 5 minutes out from home and recieve a phone call I talk on the way home and then to cut my minutes short I tell them I will call them right back and then hang up switch to my VoIP phone. That gets old sometimes. Granted it is not a very big itch but it is annoying. So I have come up with several solutions. First, with the neo I could get a plan that includes data with my minutes and I could use skype or some other VoIP solution like astrisk. Which in turn would be great. Oh also another question can you get a data only plan? Just curious I know some people may or may not have mentioned it but the thread that it was mentioned in has over 80 e-mails and couldn't find it right off. But let's pretend that for somereason you didn't want to add a data plan to your mobile device because it was too expensive or what ever. Would it be possible for the neo to know when you step into range of a WiFi network that you have acess to? And after it notices the WiFi connection it pops up a button on the screen that say's transfer to VoIP? You say hold on a sec and press the button. The neo then puts the user on hold and transfers the call to your VoIP line on your neo where you pick it up, or the neo picks it up. The voice line then hangs up the call and puts the person back on the line with you. Does that make since? Also when making a call and I am in range of a WiFi network a check box or a seperate call with VoIP button appears that allows you to place the same call over the VoIP? Does that make since? Just wanting to get everyones opinions on this. This is a feature that I would like very much. I have internet at home which has a 15Mbps transfer rate with a 1000GB cap so I should be free and clear with this. I would love to have this feature. I would like to learn how to do this on the neo but would definatly need more time to research it out. Plus I would need more time to work on it, maybe when I graduate school. I would also need someone to help me. Any ways I am starting to ramble so please let me know what you think about this? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QUAR] RE: VoIP call transfer?
Don't be so dismissive. It's an interesting idea. It may happen some day. But it would be pretty difficult at this point. The path would have to be pretty circuitous, the latency and odds of a dropped call would keep going up and up with each new link. I've never tried it myself, but I've heard that GPRS latency / QOS in general is very low and it would not be a satisfying experienice. It seems you'd have to use another phone to computer gateway, from the openmoko to the net, and potentially then a second one from the net to the rest of the plain old telephone network. You could have a land line at home be your own gateway... and that'd reduce some of the round trip times. So the architecture could be: POTN - gateway -ISP- homenet -ISP- gateway -GSM- Neo1973 or, if you have your own land line for incoming: POTN - gateway -ISP- homenet -lan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -GSM- Neo1973 and then when you got close to home you initiate a parallel connection from your home network to the Neo over bluetooth or wifi and [somehow] get that in sync and hand off: POTN - gateway -ISP- homenet -bluetooth/wifi- Neo1973 Sounds fun; almost makes me glad I still have a land line. -erik ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VoIP call transfer?
Yeah with such a closed minded an answer as that I can ignore it almost instintively. Thanks for the spell check sometimes my mind goes faster than my spelling. This sounds like a really good alternative. Thanks for the post. I will now more eagerly look forward to the neo. Will there need to be any special settings/programming made to the neo to make the outbound calls? On 3/28/07, Paul McMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For starters, a friendly reminder that it's spelled sense. That said, the way to do this is not with skype, but with Asterisk. If you route ALL your incoming calls through an asterisk box (whether hosted by you, or by a service provider) it should be possible to manage completely seamless transitions. It would look something like this: Your contact calls your phone number the call is routed to your asterisk box your asterisk box checks to see if you're in a WiFi area You are presented with the call, with the option to take it via wifi or gsm If you take it via wifi, your asterisk box routes the call via SIP or IAX directly to your phone. If you take it via GSM, your asterisk box calls the PSTN and routes the call through itself to the phone via the regular cell network When you transition zones (going to wifi from gsm, or the other way around), the asterisk box establishes a call via the other protocol, bridges the voice, then once your neo device has fully transitioned itself over to the new medium, it disconnects the previous call. So your contact never has direct access to your cell number. Instead, they call your voip number which is routed as is convenient for you. When you transition zones, the most trouble you will have is perhaps a slightly click or momentary dead air as the device transitions over. If you accidentally wander out of range of your wifi, the asterisk box will notice this and automatically call you via gsm, which the phone will pick up automatically. This won't be as seamless, but it won't result in a completely lost call. It's also worth noting that this system can be functional for outgoing calls as well, so long as you route all calls via your asterisk box. This has the side effect of making international calls via from your cell cheap and easy. Paul p.s. Ignore the guy who has no imagination... most things are possible with a little thought. On 3/28/07, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an itch that I would like to explain to you and give an idea of how to overcome that itch and see if that is possible or not, and if so a good idea or not. So first here is my itch. I have a VoIP phone at home which uses my WiFi connection to make calls using skype. I like that it helps lower my cell phone bills a lot since I started a new business and it takes a lot of calls to make it sucessful. But I am not always at home sometimes I am just 5 minutes out from home and recieve a phone call I talk on the way home and then to cut my minutes short I tell them I will call them right back and then hang up switch to my VoIP phone. That gets old sometimes. Granted it is not a very big itch but it is annoying. So I have come up with several solutions. First, with the neo I could get a plan that includes data with my minutes and I could use skype or some other VoIP solution like astrisk. Which in turn would be great. Oh also another question can you get a data only plan? Just curious I know some people may or may not have mentioned it but the thread that it was mentioned in has over 80 e-mails and couldn't find it right off. But let's pretend that for somereason you didn't want to add a data plan to your mobile device because it was too expensive or what ever. Would it be possible for the neo to know when you step into range of a WiFi network that you have acess to? And after it notices the WiFi connection it pops up a button on the screen that say's transfer to VoIP? You say hold on a sec and press the button. The neo then puts the user on hold and transfers the call to your VoIP line on your neo where you pick it up, or the neo picks it up. The voice line then hangs up the call and puts the person back on the line with you. Does that make since? Also when making a call and I am in range of a WiFi network a check box or a seperate call with VoIP button appears that allows you to place the same call over the VoIP? Does that make since? Just wanting to get everyones opinions on this. This is a feature that I would like very much. I have internet at home which has a 15Mbps transfer rate with a 1000GB cap so I should be free and clear with this. I would love to have this feature. I would like to learn how to do this on the neo but would definatly need more time to research it out. Plus I would need more time to work on it, maybe when I graduate school. I would also need someone to help me. Any ways I am starting to ramble so
Re: VoIP call transfer?
Getting it set up the way I described will require some hacking, but it's nothing very difficult. Basically, we have to make sure the default voice interface works properly with both voice and GSM, and then figure out how to make the phone establish two calls simultaneously (via gsm and wifi) and add a few wifi or gsm buttons to the interface. Then for the outgoing portion, we'll need to program a configuration that automatically routes all outgoing calls via the asterisk server ( i.e. it'll call the server via the cell network if it has to, then send the signal for the number you want to dial). Once the rest of the software is in place, the functionality shouldn't take more than a few afternoons worth of hacking to get right. Also, an added bonus is that this solves the voicemail problem people were talking about before... your asterisk box can do anything you want with voicemail, including downloading it directly to the phone, or email-like playback. I imagine that in the future, someone will provide all this functionality bundled together as a service you can just subscribe to. Paul On 3/28/07, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah with such a closed minded an answer as that I can ignore it almost instintively. Thanks for the spell check sometimes my mind goes faster than my spelling. This sounds like a really good alternative. Thanks for the post. I will now more eagerly look forward to the neo. Will there need to be any special settings/programming made to the neo to make the outbound calls? On 3/28/07, Paul McMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For starters, a friendly reminder that it's spelled sense. That said, the way to do this is not with skype, but with Asterisk. If you route ALL your incoming calls through an asterisk box (whether hosted by you, or by a service provider) it should be possible to manage completely seamless transitions. It would look something like this: Your contact calls your phone number the call is routed to your asterisk box your asterisk box checks to see if you're in a WiFi area You are presented with the call, with the option to take it via wifi or gsm If you take it via wifi, your asterisk box routes the call via SIP or IAX directly to your phone. If you take it via GSM, your asterisk box calls the PSTN and routes the call through itself to the phone via the regular cell network When you transition zones (going to wifi from gsm, or the other way around), the asterisk box establishes a call via the other protocol, bridges the voice, then once your neo device has fully transitioned itself over to the new medium, it disconnects the previous call. So your contact never has direct access to your cell number. Instead, they call your voip number which is routed as is convenient for you. When you transition zones, the most trouble you will have is perhaps a slightly click or momentary dead air as the device transitions over. If you accidentally wander out of range of your wifi, the asterisk box will notice this and automatically call you via gsm, which the phone will pick up automatically. This won't be as seamless, but it won't result in a completely lost call. It's also worth noting that this system can be functional for outgoing calls as well, so long as you route all calls via your asterisk box. This has the side effect of making international calls via from your cell cheap and easy. Paul p.s. Ignore the guy who has no imagination... most things are possible with a little thought. On 3/28/07, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an itch that I would like to explain to you and give an idea of how to overcome that itch and see if that is possible or not, and if so a good idea or not. So first here is my itch. I have a VoIP phone at home which uses my WiFi connection to make calls using skype. I like that it helps lower my cell phone bills a lot since I started a new business and it takes a lot of calls to make it sucessful. But I am not always at home sometimes I am just 5 minutes out from home and recieve a phone call I talk on the way home and then to cut my minutes short I tell them I will call them right back and then hang up switch to my VoIP phone. That gets old sometimes. Granted it is not a very big itch but it is annoying. So I have come up with several solutions. First, with the neo I could get a plan that includes data with my minutes and I could use skype or some other VoIP solution like astrisk. Which in turn would be great. Oh also another question can you get a data only plan? Just curious I know some people may or may not have mentioned it but the thread that it was mentioned in has over 80 e-mails and couldn't find it right off. But let's pretend that for somereason you didn't want to add a data plan to your mobile device because it was too expensive or what ever. Would
Re: VoIP call transfer?
Might it be much simpler? On my current cell phone, I can initiate a 3-way call after already talking to somebody for any amount of time. So, when you get home, have a script on the neo start a 3-way call to your home number, which will be answered by your neo's call waiting via wifi, then hang up on the other line (cell). The only thing I wouldn't be sure about is the part about hanging up the first line. I think some systems would cause that to end the entire three way call (my nextel does this). I'm pretty sure that some 3-way systems are done such that when any of the 3 hang up, the remaining 2 are still connected. So, depending on how your carrier's 3-way works, this may be very simple. Here's an entirely different method: Set up a device at home that always will immediately answer a call when the neo is not around, and then have that device initiate a 3-way call through the cell network, which you'll answer with the neo. Ideally, caller-id info can be somehow manipulated so you know where the call really came from. That way, when you get home, you only need a (hopefully) simple program on the neo to smoothly transition from the cell call to the one that's been in progress at home. Perhaps, it doesn't even need to be all that smooth, just ask the party to hang on for a second, and make the switch yourself. --Steve ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VoIP call transfer?
Matthew... what you're describing is sometimes called Fixed Mobile Convergence. Or rather, the FMC term has grown to encompass the scenario you describe. I use Skype on a HTC Apache (or is it the Wizard?) with EVDO and voice from Verizon. Honestly, I'm surprised Verizon lets me get away with this. This is the type of thing I would think they would want to shut down. I've tried Skype on a Mac over Blooteuth over EDGE, too, and it's not completely bad. There's a delay that ranges from 350 msec to well over 2 seconds, but the median seems to be somewhere around 500 msec. Not completely bad, but it leaves you wanting something better. What I've noticed about EVDO is that throughput falls through the floor when you're on the move. EDGE seems to suffer this effect much less, but on both technologies, it's definitely noticeable. So... from a network perspective, there may be some issues with latency and maintaining throughput as you're driving. From an application perspective, I have a contact at eBay labs who's been pressuring the Skype team to release an ARM/Linux binary. They've shipped an intel/Linux binary, but I would be surprised if the current and next generation Neos have the horsepower to emulate the full skype library... I think they include their own codecs, which tends to eat up a lot of processor time. The good news is that given Skype's ability to have multiple sessions open on the same account, it shouldn't be that difficult to create a client that transfers a Skype call from your handset to your desktop client without the person on the other end of the phone even being aware. I have a similar problem in that I live in the sticks and coverage is a bit spotty, especially the last 30 seconds of my drive. I would love to park a call from my mobile and pick it up on my home phone. The holy grail of home-based FMC would be a system that, like you describe, allows an incoming call to your home line to be forwarded to your mobile when you're away, and then transfer back to your home after you arrive. It's trivial to set things up to transfer from your land-line to a mobile line. You don't even need Asterisk to do that. But transferring back to the land line is a bit problematic. In order to do this, you would need the complicity of your carrier or something like Asterisk listening in to the conversation. The former is unlikely to happen in this decade and the latter might require that you have two lines at your office; one to terminate the land- line call and the other to make the outgoing call to your mobile (with the PBX in the middle forwarding the sounds from one line to another and listening for signaling tones you produce to tell it to go into call park mode.) If you have an office in a business district, it's a lot easier to get a PBX interface where your phone system talks QSIG or DPNSS. In short, your equipment has a better mechanism for staying in the loop than with traditional analog residential signaling. In the early days of ISDN and then later DSL and Fiber to the Curb there was a lot of talk about pushing intelligence to the leaves of the network specifically to support the types of things you're talking about. But such talk is heresy in the telco world, so we wind up with the status quo. The telcos seem to have built a pricing model based on differentiated residential and business services. Residential services tend to be cheaper, but offer fewer services. Business services cost a bit more (sometimes a lot more) but offer more flexibility and more services. I've been making my own cell phones for over a year now, and I'm trying very hard to get the major carriers interested in service- differentiated MVNO's. Which is to say... a Mobile Virtual Network Operator that offers services different than the parent network. To date, it seems that most MVNO's are interested only in differentiating based on branding and marketing. I would think that a service that provided some of the services you're talking about would be great for small businesses. I'm thinking about a service that terminates a PSTN call (i.e. - a regular phone call) at our switch and then does VoIP to your desk (if you're at your desk) or forwards to your mobile, but stays in the loop with respect to signaling. When you want to transfer between land-line and mobile. In other words, you would buy a SIP phone for your desk at home, and point it towards our proxy. We then provide a web interface that allows you to configure your service... voicemail, follow-me and the like... You would then get a normal mobile phone and configure the system to forward incoming calls to your mobile device and your desk phone. Then add the ability to use a SIP/RTP client over EVDO or EDGE if you want to try that. But the most important part of this system would likely be the ability to move calls
Re: VoIP call transfer?
On 3/28/07, Matthew S. Hamrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew... what you're describing is sometimes called Fixed Mobile Convergence. Or rather, the FMC term has grown to encompass the scenario you describe. according to their website, www.grandcentral.com will provide this kind of service... I didn't dig deep enough to figure out how they do it, but they might provide out of the box access to what you want (they claim to be free). Wish I could give you a thumbs up/down on how it works, but I've only got one phone myself. anyways, check it out if you're interested -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: VoIP call transfer?
Hi Jeff, Grandcentral divert all calls from a pre-determined pstn number that they assign (and cant be transferred to any other carrier so once you sign up unless you are prepared to change all your business cards etc you're stuck with them). They then deliver all calls from their central server out to your cell, your home your office phone etc. Should you want to transfer from one extension to another you press 4 on your keypad and then it makes all the extensions ring again and you pickup again. As discussed earlier you can do this using Asterisk HOWEVER as I already said earlier, there is a very big difference between this and single number FMC as desired. In addition the GPRS throughput and latency on the NEO will not be sufficient to deliver voice quality of a MOS level to be usable. Like I said - you're dreaming, it's not going to happen with the current generation of technology on either the customer premise or the carrier side hardware, don't shoot the messenger just because you don't appreciate what I'm saying. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Andros Sent: Wednesday, 28 March 2007 7:28 PM Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: VoIP call transfer? On 3/28/07, Matthew S. Hamrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew... what you're describing is sometimes called Fixed Mobile Convergence. Or rather, the FMC term has grown to encompass the scenario you describe. according to their website, www.grandcentral.com will provide this kind of service... I didn't dig deep enough to figure out how they do it, but they might provide out of the box access to what you want (they claim to be free). Wish I could give you a thumbs up/down on how it works, but I've only got one phone myself. anyways, check it out if you're interested -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VoIP call transfer?
Looks interesting i will have to take a look thanks. On 3/28/07, Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/28/07, Matthew S. Hamrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew... what you're describing is sometimes called Fixed Mobile Convergence. Or rather, the FMC term has grown to encompass the scenario you describe. according to their website, www.grandcentral.com will provide this kind of service... I didn't dig deep enough to figure out how they do it, but they might provide out of the box access to what you want (they claim to be free). Wish I could give you a thumbs up/down on how it works, but I've only got one phone myself. anyways, check it out if you're interested -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
