Re: Will Openmoko ever see the light of day? Was Re: Concern for usability and ergonomics
On Thursday 14 June 2007 23:45:29 Jonathon Suggs wrote: Well as far as we know (no *official* word) the models (GTA-01) that you have actually are vaporware as far as we are concerned since they are not going to be mass producing them in favor of rolling out the GTA-02's. Which assuming GTA-02 doesn't take much longer, would be a bad thing why? pgp2FXhrprjMx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Will Openmoko ever see the light of day?
to, 2007-06-14 kello 16:45 -0500, Jonathon Suggs kirjoitti: Well as far as we know (no *official* word) the models (GTA-01) that you have actually are vaporware as far as we are concerned since they are not going to be mass producing them in favor of rolling out the GTA-02's. There is pretty much no reason to assume this, so you're just pulling it out of a hat. Not a bad place to pull out guesses, but as far as as far as we know _really_ goes, GTA-01s will be sold, because that was the plan, we've heard nothing to contradict the plan, and they to the best of our knowledge already have a bunch of them waiting to be ready to be sold. Upgrading the hardware for mass market was also planned for a long while, so that they have GTA-02 plans and (apparently) even engineering samples is nothing to be surprised about at this point. In short, assuming that plans wrt. selling GTA-01 have changed somehow due to the delays is totally unwarranted. You're not qualified to jump to assumptions here. -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/ Transhumanist - WTA member - URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/ Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - URL:http://www.singinst.org/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Re: Will Openmoko ever see the light of day?
Jonathon Suggs wrote: [...] I agree with most of what you wrote - FIC is likely to skip GTA01. So yeah, you can call me on a GTA-01 (does that even work yet) Yes. I've used one myself and took a picture of someone else calling with it: http://flickr.com/photos/lorphos/512691193/ -Sven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Will Openmoko ever see the light of day? Was Re: Concern for usability and ergonomics
That is very exciting news. I look forward to more from Sean sortly. How did you find that article? On 6/15/07, Thomas Gstädtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some (pretty good) news: http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/06/15/#20070615-gta01-factory-trip 2007/6/15, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 14 June 2007 23:45:29 Jonathon Suggs wrote: Well as far as we know (no *official* word) the models (GTA-01) that you have actually are vaporware as far as we are concerned since they are not going to be mass producing them in favor of rolling out the GTA-02's. Which assuming GTA-02 doesn't take much longer, would be a bad thing why? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Will Openmoko ever see the light of day? Was Re: Concern for usability and ergonomics
Some (pretty good) news: http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/06/15/#20070615-gta01-factory-trip 2007/6/15, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 14 June 2007 23:45:29 Jonathon Suggs wrote: Well as far as we know (no *official* word) the models (GTA-01) that you have actually are vaporware as far as we are concerned since they are not going to be mass producing them in favor of rolling out the GTA-02's. Which assuming GTA-02 doesn't take much longer, would be a bad thing why? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Will Openmoko ever see the light of day? Was Re: Concern for usability and ergonomics
Well, if that is correct, I think I'll win an award for biggest foot in mouth. Still, 492 + (500 * (1 - defect%)) isn't a very large number. I guess only time will tell. mathew davis wrote: That is very exciting news. I look forward to more from Sean sortly. How did you find that article? On 6/15/07, Thomas Gstädtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some (pretty good) news: http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/06/15/#20070615-gta01-factory-trip 2007/6/15, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday 14 June 2007 23:45:29 Jonathon Suggs wrote: Well as far as we know (no *official* word) the models (GTA-01) that you have actually are vaporware as far as we are concerned since they are not going to be mass producing them in favor of rolling out the GTA-02's. Which assuming GTA-02 doesn't take much longer, would be a bad thing why? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Will Openmoko ever see the light of day?
On 6/15/07, Miquel Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sven Neuhaus wrote: So yeah, you can call me on a GTA-01 (does that even work yet) Yes. I've used one myself and took a picture of someone else calling with it: http://flickr.com/photos/lorphos/512691193/ Don't take me wrong, but a picture of somebody holding a neo1973 on his ear does not prove that it actually works. On the other hand I believe it is not vaporware, I think it simply got delayed because some unexpected problem Come on guys this thread has gone on long enough. What has to happen here. Do I need to mention Nazis [1] or something? Maybe the phones are coming and maybe they aren't. Long winded, whiny threads on a mainling list are not going to change that. Unless you are actively developing software (as in have written code not just thought about it) for the Neo and cannot get an evaluation unit you really should chill out. For those of you who are complaining about putting off phone purchases waiting for a Neo, stop waiting! It has been stated several times that even when released the first revision hardware will not be something you want to rely on (because the software will be immature). Go get yourself a carrier subsidised phone and plan on paying full fair for you Neo (if/when it is released). You are going to want a backup when you break your phone loading the latest build. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law -- Andrew Becherer Undergraduate, Computing and Software Systems University of Washington, Tacoma ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
