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OMG Awesome, Rasterman is amazing! -Will On 11/2/07, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:56:26 +0800, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:52:59 +0100 Pietro \m0nt0\ Montorfano [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Oh yeah, welcome Rasterman!! So e17 also on openmoko phone? :D Wow!! I'm sooo excited! Um Hi Guys! :) *bounce* Hi ! E17 on phones - let's see. I'm really keen to see it be able to do that. If it means making a phone sexy - I'm all over it like stink on stinky tofu. :) Great news !!! I am e17 user for some years ago after DR16 user so I know you was specialized in embedded systems :) OpenMoko is a kind of a logical way for you :) great welcome and see you soon :) Steven (waiting for his Neo1973 GTA02 - EFL/OpenMoko :) ) -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:56:26 +0800, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:52:59 +0100 Pietro \m0nt0\ Montorfano [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Oh yeah, welcome Rasterman!! So e17 also on openmoko phone? :D Wow!! I'm sooo excited! Um Hi Guys! :) *bounce* Hi ! E17 on phones - let's see. I'm really keen to see it be able to do that. If it means making a phone sexy - I'm all over it like stink on stinky tofu. :) Great news !!! I am e17 user for some years ago after DR16 user so I know you was specialized in embedded systems :) OpenMoko is a kind of a logical way for you :) great welcome and see you soon :) Steven (waiting for his Neo1973 GTA02 - EFL/OpenMoko :) ) -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Oh yeah, welcome Rasterman!! So e17 also on openmoko phone? :D Wow!! I'm sooo excited! E17 is already running on the neo (in a fashion): http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8294545513.html FancyPants is based on E17 - more info at http://linuxdevices.com/files/article078/fst-fancypants-celf2007.pdf Cheers, Tom ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hey guys, there's even a video of fancypants showing video on the Neo: http://www.fluffyspider.com/demos/live_videos/flv/fancypants-openmoko-neo1973-video-browser-phone-dialer.html Woo! /Oliver ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Running e17 even as we speak. Same here :) Very big news, thank you, Sean and Raster ! Have fun Flo ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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You're talking about EFL, not e17. But e17 is of course running, too :) http://gstaedtner.net/e17_on_Neo.avi Back on topic: Welcome raster, I'm looking forward to see what the future will bring to us. On 11/2/07, Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Running e17 even as we speak. Same here :) Very big news, thank you, Sean and Raster ! Have fun Flo ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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That does look pretty impressive especially considering that hardware acceleration isn't implemented. But now my question is how does e17, OKL4, raster, etc. all fit into the overall OpenMoko equation? -Jonathon -Original Message- From: Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:45:52 +0100 Hey guys, there's even a video of fancypants showing video on the Neo: http://www.fluffyspider.com/demos/live_videos/flv/fancypants-openmoko-neo1973-video-browser-phone-dialer.html Woo! /Oliver ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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WOW this video is really impressive, if there was not for the little swinging of the camera at the end of the video , seems too smooth to be real as a photoshoped thing of fake, but the mistakes, perhaps mistake is to hard to descrive it better mechanical noises in zoom and positioning, or the author is a little advanced on infographics or it seems very real!!! By the way. The Neo will come with the pen/pointer used in the video?? Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: That does look pretty impressive especially considering that hardware acceleration isn't implemented. But now my question is how does e17, OKL4, raster, etc. all fit into the overall OpenMoko equation? -Jonathon -Original Message- From: Oliver Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:45:52 +0100 Hey guys, there's even a video of fancypants showing video on the Neo: http://www.fluffyspider.com/demos/live_videos/flv/fancypants-openmoko-neo1973-video-browser-phone-dialer.html Woo! /Oliver ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - ¡Descubre una nueva forma de obtener respuestas a tus preguntas! Entra en Yahoo! Respuestas. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:15:25 -0500 William Voorhees [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: OMG Awesome, Rasterman is amazing! shucks - um... thanks. :) Though don't give me too much credit. I have built on top of the work of many who have trodden paths before me. I have made use of infrastructure others have laid out. I'm just that crazy old man in the town square muttering incoherent phrases to himself and anyone else in earshot :) -Will On 11/2/07, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:56:26 +0800, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:52:59 +0100 Pietro \m0nt0\ Montorfano [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Oh yeah, welcome Rasterman!! So e17 also on openmoko phone? :D Wow!! I'm sooo excited! Um Hi Guys! :) *bounce* Hi ! E17 on phones - let's see. I'm really keen to see it be able to do that. If it means making a phone sexy - I'm all over it like stink on stinky tofu. :) Great news !!! I am e17 user for some years ago after DR16 user so I know you was specialized in embedded systems :) OpenMoko is a kind of a logical way for you :) great welcome and see you soon :) Steven (waiting for his Neo1973 GTA02 - EFL/OpenMoko :) ) -- Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 22:46:21 +0100 (CET) David Samblas Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: Fancypants is something that FST has worked on - they have built on to of EFL (evas and friends). the same thing E17 is built on. It's NOT a replacement for GTK - (though things like ETK and EWL do exist and are close replacements), but what it *IS* good at far above and beyond anything else is hellishly customised 2D UI's with smooth fast graphics - without needing graphics acceleration. smart and optimised use of raw compute power can get you a long long long way. That's why E17 has taken so long - a huge effort has been sunk into layers of software below it to do just this - scale from tiny embedded devices all the way to multi-ghz multi-core behemoths (yes evas's rendering engine is SLI and will actually go use all CPU cores you have - automatically). So to make any UI's that are different/exciting/sexy/whatever - it's not a bad choice (and yes Openhand hand have clutter and we can go on and on about other things that might be similar). This does not mean throwing away any existing apps. GTK is a fine widget set. Use it. I believe in choice - choose your language, your toolkit, your UI. choose what is best for you. So where do I fit - Well my business card has 2 titles. 1 is Evil Overlord. Personally I like this one :) The other has Lead Architect - Graphics. That's pretty fuzzy, but I guess if it has pixels involved - I'll be at least sniffing around at it. Personally I want to make OpenMoko not just work - but sing. Be exciting. Be sexy. Beautiful graphics UI's are not just something Apple does. They just help raise the bar. WOW this video is really impressive, if there was not for the little swinging of the camera at the end of the video , seems too smooth to be real as a photoshoped thing of fake, but the mistakes, perhaps mistake is to hard to descrive it better mechanical noises in zoom and positioning, or the author is a little advanced on infographics or it seems very real!!! By the way. The Neo will come with the pen/pointer used in the video?? Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: That does look pretty impressive especially considering that hardware acceleration isn't implemented. But now my question is how does e17, OKL4, raster, etc. all fit into the overall OpenMoko equation? -Jonathon -Original Message- From: Oliver Reply-To: List for OpenMoko community discussion To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:45:52 +0100 Hey guys, there's even a video of fancypants showing video on the Neo: http://www.fluffyspider.com/demos/live_videos/flv/fancypants-openmoko-neo1973-video-browser-phone-dialer.html Woo! /Oliver ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - ¡Descubre una nueva forma de obtener respuestas a tus preguntas! Entra en Yahoo! Respuestas. -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
