Re: Wrist Computing
I think it's a good idea. Not only on a bicycle but also for applications in warehouse where people use a vertical application running on the device and can also be on the phone with an ear piece. Fred On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Lally Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thinking of something like: > > http://www.eurotech.com/EN/products.aspx?pg=Zypad%20WL%201000&pp=Wearable%20Computers&pc=411&pid=260 > > I'd love a little wrist mount for an openmoko phone. It'd be a > wonderful place to mount it in GPS mode when on a motorcycle. > > Even otherwise, a great way to quickly look something up. > > Of course, I'd take it out of the mount to answer the phone :-D > > Any thoughts? > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wrist Computing
thanks On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:05 AM, JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any thoughts? > > watch less star trek > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Wrist Computing
Hahahahahahahaha that made me literally lol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JW Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 9:05 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Wrist Computing > Any thoughts? watch less star trek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wrist Computing
> Any thoughts? watch less star trek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Wrist Computing
Thinking of something like: http://www.eurotech.com/EN/products.aspx?pg=Zypad%20WL%201000&pp=Wearable%20Computers&pc=411&pid=260 I'd love a little wrist mount for an openmoko phone. It'd be a wonderful place to mount it in GPS mode when on a motorcycle. Even otherwise, a great way to quickly look something up. Of course, I'd take it out of the mount to answer the phone :-D Any thoughts? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: WAG about spares ratios
Thanks Ron, You numbers and mine are roughly in the same ballpark, roughly -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron K. Jeffries Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:23 PM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: WAG about spares ratios Steve wrote: ~~ From: "steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'List for Openmoko community discussion'" Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:30:33 -0700 Subject: RE: Price of the Freerunner spare parts Yes, The information about returns and defects etc needs to be shared. First, however, it needs to be established or estimated. I haven't seen a single number from anybody on the demand rate for batteries or LCD or back covers. Anyone care to guess? Since you asked , here are my WAGs (with rationale) Item: Projected spares demand (adjust after 6 months field experience) Battery 1 spare per 8 units sold rationale: desire for spare battery more likely due to wide range of uses (as compared with standard phone). If Nokia battery is really "as good as" then this can be lower but not zero. LCD1 spare per 75 units sold 9slightly more than 1 percent) LCD breakage is not frequent, but enough that we need spares Back cover 1 spare per 200 units sold not a high failure item, but a pain when it goes. if this is not a sturdy part with perfect fit, the rate will be quite a bit higher ~~~ A lot of money can be squandered if spares kan-bans are set too high but the flip side of that coin is that a lot of delay for customers to get spares leads to unhappy customers, and in some cases will trigger swapping an entire unit which is REALLY expensive. -- Ron K. Jeffries http://blog.eronj.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Accelerometer brainstorming
Ya, I started down the API path with Michael Shiloh a while back, but we got diverted by other things. Hi matt, Lets talk about your ideas, we need to highlight the new hardware we added. Let me know what you are thinking -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crane, Matthew Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:08 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: RE: Accelerometer brainstorming Yea, there would need to be a decent test and experiment app, with GUI, record data feature, and visualization of data. That would be needed likely before the ideas we've mentioned could be worked out. Need to develop a solid API and event notification system. That sort of thing prob exists for GPS, but should it be new/separate or tagged onto GPS for acellerometer? Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Burdette Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 1:40 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Accelerometer brainstorming Alexey Feldgendler wrote: > Just like my recent post about using GPS to enhance the phone, I'll > try to explore the synergy opportunities for the accelerometers that > Neo has. Once again, some of this might have already been discussed. I'd like to see an accelerometer graphing application, so you could monitor and graph g force levels. Maybe throw in a zeroing button to set a baseline orientation, then show deviation from that. Maybe not extraordinarily useful, but it would be cool to look at. You could also record the data for later hacking or comparison, like what was my max g-force last time I went skydiving compared to this time? The graphing and etc would be good for studying the feasability of other accelerometer uses, ie is a tap on the case a recognizable event? Speaking of that, I'd like a tap on the case to be configurable as a mute function during ringing. So if you forgot to mute your phone at the symphony and it starts ringing somewhere inside your backpack or jacket, a well placed kick would (probably) mute it. The value here is not having to hunt for the phone and find a button on it. I guess this falls under the larger category of gesture recognition, but this alone would be a real win for me. Another use would be as a 0-60 or quarter mile acceleration timer. Here's a link to a company that makes these: http://www.gtechpro.com/?gclid=CLf7wPmpsJICFRI0awod1CWyQQ I don't know if the accelerometer in the freerunner is accurate enough, but this is a low priced product, I'd think their accelerometers are not a great deal better, if any. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GSoC 2008 Voice box
Hi, I had some problems mailing to the list. So i try to take my last chance. I'm a student in the german university of applied science in Offenburg and want to participate openmoko for Google Summer of Code and more. I'm very interested in a feature on the wishlist: the voicebox [1]. i think this is a great feature for the users because they can see and use it from the beginning. Also thought about calendar integration, so user do not have to switch to this mode. instead the phone replies sth. like "I'm in a meeting till 2.30 p.m. call you later" ([2]) or sends a message. If you will prefer one of the official list i want to code one of the VoIP parts (9,10,16). This is a great feature if you are at home or a customer who has a contract with for a lot of hotspots. might be not useful for umts yet because most providers block these ports. hope i can join the community. Regards Frederik Sdun [1]http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List#Voice_Mailbox [2]http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokotts/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Cooperative Differential GPS
fyi, see http://www.trimble.com/gps/index.shtml for some good explanations of GPS works, including a section on Differential GPS regards Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great to see someone who is interested in this as well! Thanks for bringing this up, as this is is a topic that I am very much interested in. We are just starting to explore this area, but the AGPS capabilities of the Neo 1973 was one reason that we went ahead and bought this. However, I do not know what AGPS support means in real terms. My naive understanding of this is that a cooperative differential GPS needs no external support. One just sits at a base station, and averages GPS readings until one knows the position of the base station to an arbitrary level of accuracy. After that, the reception of realtime GPS signals at the base station provides information about random errors, which I understand are largely due to atmospheric fluctuations. Corrections for these are derived from the difference between the well-known actual position of the base station, and the received realtime position. These can be broadcast through various means, e.g., an Internet DGPS server, and should be good for a few hundred km around the base station. The cooperative aspect of this comes in because of the benefits of multiple base stations. Being a non-expert the following should be taken with caution: What you describe here is - i think - refered to as poor man's DGPS because it would work with any cheap GPS receivers which only provide you with lat/lon coordinates. By just subtracting the lat/lon fluctuations of a known stationary GPS receiver nearby you do not gain any accuracy because you do not know exactly how the lat/lon was calculated and which errors influenced this calculation. As you said, the errors are due to atmospheric fluctuations but these vary wildly for each satellite in sight - that is why you need to have access to the raw data (ie pseudorange, carrier phase, doppler shift) per satellite. Consumer-grade GPS receivers will just use the pseudoranges from the satellites currently in sight and triangulate an estimated position. They don't tell you which satellites were used during this calculation and therefore you cannot gain any useful information for a receiver nearby. It is very improbable that two GPS receivers see _and_ use exactly the same satellites at a given moment, even if they are separated by just a few meters. You can actually do this experiment yourself (as I've done) and see that the lat/lon readings of two receivers in close proximity do not correlate much. However, with a stationary GPS receiver which provides you with the raw per satellite data you could extract the needed error information and publish it on some server. This could then in turn be used by a GPS receiver nearby (who also has to have access to the per satellite data) to calculate a much more precise location (errors might be as low as about a decimeter per kilometer distance to the reference GPS receiver). The good news is, that the GPS chip in the Neo FreeRunner could deliver the raw data but I am not sure if the firmware allows you access to the RXM-RAW message type cited in the Protocol Specification of the Antaris ATR0635. It would be great if someone could confirm that?! I think there are a bunch of people (including myself) which would be interested in such a Cooperative Differential GPS project for the FreeRunner (not to mention the great benefit for all users of an actual working CDGPS infrastructure) but for a start we would have to answer the question above. Best regards, -- beren ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: offline wikipedia/wiktionary
I think it would be nice to also provide wiki.openmoko.org as an image for Mokopedia. -- Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Join the FSF as an Associate Member at: http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=5774> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: waterproof
khang skrev: TomTom on Openmoko is nice . TomTom on Openmoko with waterproof for outdoor is even better ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community That was a great idea! Alexander Frøyseth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
