Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro
Even better might be to nfs mount all the important stuff - a PXE boot would be nice, but I havent the foggiest how to do this with uboot and wireless ... All the build directories, portage and maybe even the compiler and libs could be elsewhere. BillK On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 03:58 +0200, Previdi Roberto wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No loss of USE - see the Gentoo Embedded Handbook, in particular this page: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/index.xml?part=1chap=5 glad to hear, i will take a look tomorrow.. (too late here now) You can do, but the bottleneck will then be linking which will happen entirely on the phone. This can also be somewhat memory intensive, a problem on a memory-constrained device like this. well, the linking phase seems to be a real problem.. surely you cannot build things such as firefox/apache/php/qt or other big packages.. (not speaking about openoffice) probably the best thing to do should be to crosscompile everything on desktop and then prepare some syncing scripts, to have two identical environments.. The sync should be in both directions, so portage could know about file conflicts, externally installed packages, configuration files and such things.. it can also be a good occasion to make a backup :) roby ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtopia openmoko]can't compile gnuboy
Suggestions? start by clicking from menu or file manager? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: usb problem, device not detected, fried?
any tip on how to follow up? have a look at lsmod is g_ether listed? if not, do modprobe g_ether if that helps: when did you update your kernel last? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OM2008.8 ] Build error
Hi all, I am installing OM2008.8 build on my PC, I got three times the same error i.e qtopia-phone package failed error. ERROR: Build of /home/pradeepgot/moko/openembedded/packages/qtopia-phone/qtopia-phone-x11_git.bb do_compile failed steps fallowed after build failed: make setup make update make clean-package-qtopia-phone make openmoko-qtopia-x11-image I didn't update the makefile because new makefile doesn't have the image I am building. Waiting for kind reply and hope qtopia-phone package will be fixed. Advanced thanks, opendeep. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro
No loss of USE - see the Gentoo Embedded Handbook, in particular this page: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/index.xml?part=1chap=5 Interesting, need to read that :-) You can do, but the bottleneck will then be linking which will happen entirely on the phone. This can also be somewhat memory intensive, a problem on a memory-constrained device like this. You are right, this is a big problem. There is also the automake stuff which is also a bottleneck (i have not tried the caching feature for the autotools). Now i also think that the only option is to build the stuff on the desktop machine. I have to read the handbook now. I Love OpenMoko-Gentoo = O.M.G! Greetings Andy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where to get recent kernel and modules for debian now?
one should probably ask on the fso-list what's the differen'ce between om and fso kernels is -- the subject seems not to be appealing to the fso guys reading this list ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Fwd: OM ppl: Fixes making into upgraded packages [was: Re: memory usage/leaks ?]
So I've read about some fixes to OM2008.8 such as fixing the memory leak discussed below, and echo cancellation fixes, but when I ran an opkg update upgrade I don't have any new fixes. When will these changes made it into the 2008.8 repositories ( http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/...)? /Erland 2008/9/8 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 15:21:58 +0200 Erland Lewin [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: 2008/9/6 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:44:17 +0200 Holger Freyther [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Thursday 04 September 2008 21:57:49 Harald Koenig wrote: [...] I upgraded efl and illume to r35818. I don't see any regressions (yet) and it might have fixed some issues. I suspect some bad ref counting of dbus messages to be the trouble maker... let us see if the upgrade makes a difference i've had e running for 24hrs - same rev as above: 1434 root 20 0 15980 7520 4776 S 0.0 6.1 1:29.26 enlightenment so all of 2.7mb of ram for e (i'm not including shared pages which are executable pages, shared libs and mmap()ed files). which.. in the scheme of things... is really not much (considering how much e does)! :) i agree with holger - it was some dbus message reference leak in the gsm fetching - probably a result of merging the patches for fso support. i went over that code the other day and fixed a bunch of issues. Have these changes made it into the 2008.8 repositories ( http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/...)? I have done an opkg update upgrade, but still think I'm suffering from memory leaks. no idea. you'll have to ask the om guys. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Le mardi 09 septembre 2008 à 17:38 +0200, David Samblas a écrit : http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt Nice work ! I see that you mention the gprs gui services. Does the warning message about gprs multiplexing not working if you have a sim pin (who doesn't ?) still apply ? It's been scaring me from testing gprs for a while now. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Nice work, thank you! But my SIM card is not registering... David Samblas wrote: Hi there, you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done. here you have more detailed information http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because of the server seems to cut the connection time to time, a most robust mirror is on the way Sugesstions , comments, and anything else will be welcome Regards and a hug David Samblas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro
Hi, I know that. Perfectly. It so happens that the whole point of using Gentoo is to build your own binaries. If you're goind the pre-built packages way, why not do it with someone who has more experience :) This is why I said the only argument one could throw at me is one which is *against* using Gentoo in spite of Debian/Fedora/whatever... :) Gentoo is very nice, IMHO, but for me it is a time waster, and if you're going the pre-built binaries way... well, why should I move? But your mileage may vary :) BTW, when I said: no distro-war (...) I meant it. That Debian jab isn't going to drag me into a distro-war :) Rui On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 09:58:40AM +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: I think he answered your question Rui - there is no reason gentoo will kill the flash any sooner than debian - unless its having up to date software :) There are a lot of misconceptions about gentoo, please research it before making rash statements (like I did about up to date software :) I find that opkg is so PRIMATIVE and restrictive compared to portage thats its really frustrating. And from the outside looking in, debian isnt a whole lot better flame suit to ON. BillK On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 14:51 +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner than everyone else :) Why? Are you making some unwarranted assumptions about using Gentoo on embedded systems? No unwarranted assumption, the only argument you could throw back at me is an argument against using Gentoo instead of any .deb or .rpm based distribution ;) Please, no distro-war, you're free to kill your flash devices sooner ;) Rui -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Umlaut Zebra �ber alles! Today is Pungenday, the 34th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
Le jeudi 14 août 2008 à 19:01 +0200, Paul-Valentin Borza a écrit : I'm proud to announce that the new release of accelerometer-based gestures, and screen orientation is now available for download. What you've seen in the video from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2S2rQUETwc is now available. How can I start the gesl daemon at boot time. I tried adding a link (/etc/rc5.d/S99gesl - /etc/init.d/gesl) but it didn't work. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
So I did some more testing... I borrowed the SIM card from my friend, and registering works, I made test call. Then I shut down my moko, inserted my own card back, booted and still I am not able to register. Signal power is very good with my old Nokia phone, network is up, there is no problems at all with nokia. The second problem is that my moko remembers my friends phone numbers now... Nice work, thank you! But my SIM card is not registering... David Samblas wrote: Hi there, you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done. here you have more detailed information http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because of the server seems to cut the connection time to time, a most robust mirror is on the way Sugesstions , comments, and anything else will be welcome Regards and a hug David Samblas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where to get recent kernel and modules for debian now?
In which mailing list or forum could i reach fso developer to ask them about this problem? I searched on www.freesmartphone.org and only found the list on http://projects.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-standards/. Is this the right list or is there a more apropriate list for this kind of questions for fso? Ciao, Rainer arne anka wrote: one should probably ask on the fso-list what's the differen'ce between om and fso kernels is -- the subject seems not to be appealing to the fso guys reading this list ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where to get recent kernel and modules for debian now?
Is this the right list or is there a more apropriate list for this kind of questions for fso? dunno, but asked anyway ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thanks to everybody at OpenMoko and all the contributers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 +1 =] Am 10.09.2008 um 11:15 schrieb Michele Renda: I want to add my thank too... to all the person you listed and to all the other persons that are also working in this ML giving suggestion and helping who had some problems. A realy good job! Thanks! - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIx5VCr81gVylJyzERAhB7AJ9Ik94FX9qyerxoWXSTHzXjfwnbugCgvWSo FCN0hqZGLvnZEErfMrKvu+4= =g/A0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
If its include in OM2008.08 then it is or it will if you update (rememeber that some times some updated packages will sustitute some custom confs (example /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia) I will mantain a wathelse.bk~ in the same directory with the costumized script in to easy recover it El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 12:14 -0400, Craig B. Allen escribió: you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done. Does this include a fix to SD card corruption upon suspending? - Craig p.s. looks interesting - installing now! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPKG building and repository
OK, Thanks. I'll have a lok why... 2008/9/10 Harald Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sep 10, Jean-Eric Cuendet wrote: First packages are built! The Feed is here: http://alf.pticoli.net/openmoko/ I just picked rotate_1.0_armv4t.ipk from your site and it contains an intel x86 binary: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# file /usr/bin/rotate /usr/bin/rotate: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# /usr/bin/rotate /usr/bin/rotate: line 1: syntax error: ( unexpected please fix or remove... Harald -- I hope to die ___ _ before I *have* to use Microsoft Word., 0--,|/OOO\ Donald E. Knuth, 02-Oct-2001 in Tuebingen._/ / /OOO\ \ \/OOO\ \ O|// \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Harald Koenig // / \\ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^ ^ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OPKG building and repository
Hi Rod, Thanks for your remarks and suggestions. This is a WIP of 2 days now So of course, everything is to be discussed and cleaned-up. In fact, what I would like to provide, is a way to make packaging easier for everyone who would like to package apps for OM. I'm thinking of rotate, accelges, numptyphysics, duke, ... There are packages available, but they are spread everywhere, not maintained, etc... If you say that adding packages to OE directly is easy, that's all we need in fact. So, please, give me a pointer of how to begin, where the feeds are, etc... I'll try to package rotate first. Thanks. -jec 2008/9/10 Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean-Eric Cuendet wrote: I have a dedicated server (P4 3.2 GHz) connected directly to Internet. This is a proposition for those that would like a system to automatically build IPKG for Openmoko. I can give them access to it (or put their scripts) to auto build packages for Openmoko. I need help: 1) To create scripts that buld packages (First candidates: duke, numptyphysics, inotify-utils, maps for Navit or others, ...) 2) To create a repository for thise packages (or use Multiverse?) Thanks to voice if you are interested. I applaud your intention to help the community with a resource like this, but I caution you to make sure you have the following bases covered before you go too much further: 1) Access to source files and build scripts alongside the binary packages 2) Complete transparency on how to the packages are built from the source 3) Do not underestimate the amount of traffic such a feed can cause on your internet connection. 4) Making sure all license conditions are fully complied with 5) How does the community trust the people submitting these packages, and how do those people trust each other that some rogue element cannot join under false pretences and corrupt the feeds? 6) How is this different from the Community Multiverse that openmoko runs? Why do you need to start a new one? I run the nslu2-linux.org project, which has over 40GB of files in public feeds, with over 1 million downloads per month. I recommend make sure all these issues are covered before you open yourself up to potential issues down the track. I also run the shr.bearstech.com feed for fso/shr. Again, I applaud your intention to help the community, but please be careful if you have not done this type of thing before. -- Rod ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Suitable USB converter
Have you found any cheap cables/adapters to connect normal usb peripherals to the usb OTG port? A keyboard will be extremely useful at home. -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thanks to everybody at OpenMoko and all the contributers
Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 11:15 +0200, Michele Renda a écrit : I want to add my thank too... to all the person you listed and to all the other persons that are also working in this ML giving suggestion and helping who had some problems. A realy good job! Thanks! Let me add my thanks to the above mentionned. And a special mention to Rasterman, for his keyboard, his thoroughly detailed posts... Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Thanks to Minh Ha-Duong I got a brand new chapter in the Distribution wikipage at Costumer Driven distros :) so I have created a FSOM wiki page that will surelly more actualized than the readmes ( now and forward an snapshot of the wiki page) :) El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 11:53 -0700, Michael Shiloh escribió: David Samblas wrote: Hi there, you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done. Thank you so much! I've loaded this and was greeted with a nice full screen of applications. I will now explore! Will you make a wiki page or shall I? I think the distributions page lists a number of unnofficial images such as scardycat, etc. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 23:35 +0200, Jay Vaughan escribió: can anyone work out what works and what doesnt? You are also doing so :) thanks calls seem to be fine, though i've had a few hangups mid-call already alas .. and for the life of me i can't get it to connect to my wifi network, which is WEP 128bit HEX .. some voodoo here? Sorry , no help here that it works for me and for someone else, not very sure but seems that WEP has some problems with wpa_supplicant, but again I advice I'm not sure generally a lot more interesting-looking than qtopia, but very thorny too, in bits! how do you quit an app? Try opkg remove wathelseyouwanttoquit, lo0k at opkg options to be more agressively removing also dependences,this way is very easy to break something ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
El mar, 09-09-2008 a las 23:35 +0200, Jean-Eric Cuendet escribió: 2008/9/9 David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi there, you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a rootfs/kenel image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes posted in the lists done. here you have more detailed information http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because of the server seems to cut the connection time to time, a most robust mirror is on the way Sugesstions , comments, and anything else will be welcome Nice work guy! Thanks, man I would propose that instead of creating yet another distribut (tm) you provide modified packages that can just be installed through OPKG on Om2008.x 2 main reasons I will not do it The intention is to have an online aviable demo image file ready to flash (nothing more nothing less) fell free to compare it with an Clean OM2008.08 and add all dependenciecies and the modified confs in one ipkg and then I only will asure it will work on a clean om2008.08-update of the day the ipkg was made but I believe is quick an easier to flashit or untarit to a sdcard partition (next FSDOM release will have tar.gz version :) I promise) Second (composed) reason Time constrains, lack of knowlege and lazyness, I have all of them :) What do you think? It's no criticism, just a thought. I prefer to give ideas to those who already upload packages to Multiverse. So if some modification I make on FSOM goes upstream then next releases will catch his own modification when updated :) I can provide you with server CPU time to build the packages and upload them to Multiverse for example. -jec Regards and a hug David Samblas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Thanks to everybody at OpenMoko and all the contributers
Raster you are the top author in my interesting mail tagged list :) Thanks to the hole community and thaks to Openmoko Inc to create an be part of it El mié, 10-09-2008 a las 12:12 +0200, julien cubizolles escribió: Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 11:15 +0200, Michele Renda a écrit : I want to add my thank too... to all the person you listed and to all the other persons that are also working in this ML giving suggestion and helping who had some problems. A realy good job! Thanks! Let me add my thanks to the above mentionned. And a special mention to Rasterman, for his keyboard, his thoroughly detailed posts... Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro
LOOOL I Love OpenMoko-Gentoo = O.M.G! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
El mié, 10-09-2008 a las 10:21 +0200, julien cubizolles escribió: Le mardi 09 septembre 2008 à 17:38 +0200, David Samblas a écrit : http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt Nice work ! I see that you mention the gprs gui services. Does the warning message about gprs multiplexing not working if you have a sim pin (who doesn't ?) still apply ? It's been scaring me from testing gprs for a while now. Where did you catch that message?, when is produced?, what are the concequences to try than scares you? Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Al Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: No loss of USE - see the Gentoo Embedded Handbook, in particular this page: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/index.xml?part=1chap=5 Ok, i have read that document, i think you are referring to the part where he says *For your runtime system, you'll need a much slimmer/trimmed down setup. The files you remove from a normal installed package is why this tree is not suitable for compiling against. If you build binary packages while installing into your sysroot, then you can use those binary packages in conjunction with the INSTALL_MASK variable to trim out most things. See the make.conf(5) man page for more information. *But i cannot understand a thing: why if i only have one neo, and i don't plan to release any overlay or similar to the public, should i choose to prepare the binary packages on the desktop and then emerge them from the neo? Isn't it the same thing of just syncing the two trees? umh.. Anyway, i have thought a bit about the available options to keep the installation clean.. i came to 2+1 solutions: 1) concurrent tree we keep 2 different trees, one on the neo and one on the desktop. when we want to update, install, remove, destroy any piece of our little gentoo thing we just make an operation of sync-emerge-sync. we must make the first sync to import in the desktop any modified configuration file, any custom installed lib, or deletion of things.. the second sync is obviously to transfer the newly updated files on the neo pros: - two copies are better than one (simple and up to date backup) - you can make the painful after holiday world update (which can compile for something like one night on slow desktops) and other slow operations without keeping the neo connected. just make the first sync and then launch the command - versioning? - eventual neo disconnections during the sync phase are not so terrible, we just reconnect and restart the sync.. cons: - much space occupied - the sync can be very slow (because the flash card is slow) 2) on-desktop compilation - on-neo installation we mount the neo root as sysroot on the desktop (nfs? usbfs?). then we add to the mounted tree the missing directories (/usr/portage, /var/tmp/portage, /usr/doc and others) which will actually reside on the desktop disk. now we have a complete sysroot where we can execute the cross-emerge as explained in the guide. after that we simply unmount our neo and go out with our freshly updated system. pros: - faster, no tedious sync involved - less space required on the desktop cons: - you must keep the neo connected all the time - neo disconnection can cause emerge to fail (but it shouldn't create inconsistencies, until the disconnection happens in the installation phase) - maybe other problems due to discording user ids or something (?) 3) hybrid (my preferred one) we keep both the clone tree and the mounting scripts, we mount the neo over the clone tree (and complete with the links) when we want a simple and wuick update of 2 or 3 packages. But when we must compile the heavy 65-packages gnome+qt+apache+openoffice update we just make the sync, launch the command and come back after the necessary hours.. pros: flexibility cons: cannot find one (maybe paranoia? personality conflicts? :) ) please guys tell me what you think about.. maybe there are much simpler ways that i forgot or just don't know about.. roby * * ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Desktop drawer/submenu/subdirectory
Hi everybody. I have installed openmoko-games and I enjoy some of them very much. But now my desktop have too much icons to be practical. It would be useful to have subdirectories on the main menu. So if I want to play a game, I go to games and then there are all the games. I have tried (and failed) the following aproachs: 1- Make a directory in /usr/share/applications and copy the .desktop files inside. Result: the subdirectory doesn't appear, but the launchers inside do. 2- Make a directory launcher in the same place, and put the .desktop files inside the directory pointed. Result: the directory launch does not appear. Any idea? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 13:00 +0200, David Samblas a écrit : Does the warning message about gprs multiplexing not working if you have a sim pin (who doesn't ?) still apply ? It's been scaring me from testing gprs for a while now. Where did you catch that message?, when is produced?, what are the concequences to try than scares you? It's the banner at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI I guess the GUI mentionned is the same servies application used in your image. According to this message, I won't be able to register on the gsm network since I need to enter a PIN code, and then I get neither gsm nor gprs. Am I missing something here ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.08] Desktop drawer submenu subdirectory
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody. I have installed openmoko-games and I enjoy some of them very much. But now my desktop have too much icons to be practical. It would be useful to have subdirectories on the main menu. So if I want to play a game, I go to games and then there are all the games. I have tried (and failed) the following aproachs: 1- Make a directory in /usr/share/applications and copy the .desktop files inside. Result: the subdirectory doesn't appear, but the launchers inside do. 2- Make a directory launcher in the same place, and put the .desktop files inside the directory pointed. Result: the directory launch does not appear. Have you tried the Slider view under Illume menu Configuration (Spanner) Launcher Display Type? It categorizes applications and displays one icon for each category. You can slide horizontally across different applications in each category. Nice idea, but implementation is sub-optimal. You can't see all applications at once, and end up invoking the wrong ones. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.08] Desktop drawer submenu subdirectory
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 That solves the Problem. But what if someone (like me) dislikes the slider? Nishit Dave schrieb: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody. I have installed openmoko-games and I enjoy some of them very much. But now my desktop have too much icons to be practical. It would be useful to have subdirectories on the main menu. So if I want to play a game, I go to games and then there are all the games. I have tried (and failed) the following aproachs: 1- Make a directory in /usr/share/applications and copy the .desktop files inside. Result: the subdirectory doesn't appear, but the launchers inside do. 2- Make a directory launcher in the same place, and put the .desktop files inside the directory pointed. Result: the directory launch does not appear. Have you tried the Slider view under Illume menu Configuration (Spanner) Launcher Display Type? It categorizes applications and displays one icon for each category. You can slide horizontally across different applications in each category. Nice idea, but implementation is sub-optimal. You can't see all applications at once, and end up invoking the wrong ones. -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIx7aolYiDScJJ+7QRApHPAJ9FUNINvvHhUylIJn9QlEODmmHxMgCdEUMx Kov1fN0L9CzSaqlQkn+cjrc= =sglJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.08] Desktop drawer submenu subdirectory
Have you tried the Slider view under Illume menu Configuration (Spanner) Launcher Display Type? It categorizes applications and displays one icon for each category. You can slide horizontally across different applications in each category. Nice idea, but implementation is sub-optimal. You can't see all applications at once, and end up invoking the wrong ones. I didn't know that view. But I have the same feelings about it than you. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Frogpad keyboard and Neo Freerunner
Hi! I've seen some mails on this topic but I can't find any conclusive one. There's a quick video demoing frogpad keyboard but it's difficult to see wether it's the usb or bt model.. Anyway, the question is, does Frogpad make a good companion for a FR? It appears to be so, but I'd like some comments. Regards, Pablo Ruiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Ok I now understand , I believe you don't have to worry about this because as far as I know the pin dialog arise if you have a 2008.8 sim card compatible, and I have no report any one loosing gsm by trying to activate gprs on FSDOM Regards El mié, 10-09-2008 a las 13:50 +0200, julien cubizolles escribió: Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 13:00 +0200, David Samblas a écrit : Does the warning message about gprs multiplexing not working if you have a sim pin (who doesn't ?) still apply ? It's been scaring me from testing gprs for a while now. Where did you catch that message?, when is produced?, what are the concequences to try than scares you? It's the banner at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI I guess the GUI mentionned is the same servies application used in your image. According to this message, I won't be able to register on the gsm network since I need to enter a PIN code, and then I get neither gsm nor gprs. Am I missing something here ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SIDplay on openmoko?
Hello! Has somebody seen sidplay on the openmoko or has a hint how to play SIDs? Is it complicated to cross-compile such a program for the openmoko? (I think there are Wiki entrys... but I ask, because maybe somebody already built it for the openmoko). Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trouble Building Kernel
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 07:18:36PM +0800, Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 03:38:41PM +0800, Andy Green wrote: Somebody | in the thread at some point said: | I wanted to build a kernel to get | some drivers as modules instead of built-in. I followed | | | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain | | | + BRANCH='(no' | | There doesn't seem to be an active branch in git? Try making one | active. | OK. That worked. I've built the kernel with no errors. Now how do I | build the modules? I would have to copy these to the freerunner | before flashing the new kernel, from what I understand. The modules are all built already as part of the process, but you need to meddle around with make modules_install to get them marshalled somewhere and scp them across. Or tar them and pipe them into untar via ssh or somesuch. Yeah. I tried this using the SYSROOT environment variable, but I think the versioning is messed up. I'll try to figure out what I did wrong and I'll post back to the list when I find an answer. I think what might have happened is I used the build script and tried to do the make modules_install part in another shell. Since you're setting temporary environment variables in the build script, this probably wouldn't work. Stupid rookie mistake. If you use the defconfig-2.6.24 .config then all the critical drivers for normal use (ethernet over USB, bt, sound, etc) are already in the monolithic kernel. Yeah. I'm not trying to make things difficult for myself. I just wanted g_ether as a module so I could use the freerunner as a usb flash drive, which requires removing the g_ether module. Using the build script means you won't get old modules from another kernel confused with modules usable on this kernel either because the /lib/modules path is unique by git head hash. So you can typically run a rootfs just with the monolithic kernel from that build even DFU'd in. If you routinely want the full module set, you can build using OE recipe to make OE package... but don't ask me how to do it :-) Yeah. I think I've already taken up enough of your time with dumb questions. I'd rather you spend it writing kernel patches. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
no gprs connection
I followed the instructions from http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21t=295 and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI (using the Armstrong repository to get gsm0710muxd) but still can't get a gprs connection (gprs off according to services and no ppp0 in ifconfig) From the error messages, I'm guessing I missed something really obvious. Also what is the correct way to set the parameters when your provider doens't ask for a login/password. Is it okay to put # Secrets for authentication using PAP # clientserver secret IP addresses * * * * in /etc/ppp/pap-secrets and chap-secrets and no user line in /etc/ppp/peers/gprs ? Logread says : Sep 10 14:55:17 om-gta02 daemon.notice pppd[1800]: pppd 2.4.3 started by root, uid 0 Sep 10 14:55:18 om-gta02 local2.info chat[1802]: abort on (BUSY) Sep 10 14:55:18 om-gta02 local2.info chat[1802]: abort on (DELAYED) Sep 10 14:55:18 om-gta02 local2.info chat[1802]: abort on (NO ANSWER) Sep 10 14:55:18 om-gta02 local2.info chat[1802]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Sep 10 14:55:18 om-gta02 local2.info chat[1802]: abort on (VOICE) Sep 10 14:55:18 om-gta02 local2.info chat[1802]: abort on (ERROR) Sep 10 14:55:18 om-gta02 local2.info chat[1802]: abort on (RINGING) Sep 10 14:55:18 om-gta02 local2.info chat[1802]: timeout set to 20 seconds Sep 10 14:55:18 om-gta02 local2.info chat[1802]: send (+++^M) Sep 10 14:55:18 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1402]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. Sep 10 14:55:18 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1402]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. Sep 10 14:55:18 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1402]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. Sep 10 14:55:18 om-gta02 local2.info chat[1802]: expect (OK) Sep 10 14:55:18 om-gta02 local0.warn /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1402]: gsm0710muxd.c:569:pseudo_device_read(): Write to a channel which wasn't acked to be open. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suitable USB converter
Do a search on e-bay for USB Female A To USB Mini and you will find several. There where some on Amazone also, but they only shipped to US. Tore Atilla Filiz wrote: Have you found any cheap cables/adapters to connect normal usb peripherals to the usb OTG port? A keyboard will be extremely useful at home. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: no gprs connection
Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 16:16 +0200, julien cubizolles a écrit : I followed the instructions from http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=21t=295 and http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI (using the Armstrong repository to get gsm0710muxd) but still can't get a gprs connection (gprs off according to services and no ppp0 in ifconfig) From the error messages, I'm guessing I missed something really obvious. I just noticed that a little while after,I get Sep 10 15:22:45 om-gta02 local2.info chat[1869]: alarm Sep 10 15:22:45 om-gta02 local2.info chat[1869]: Failed Sep 10 15:22:45 om-gta02 daemon.err pppd[1867]: Connect script failed Sep 10 15:22:45 om-gta02 daemon.info pppd[1867]: Exit. Sep 10 15:22:45 om-gta02 local0.info /usr/sbin/gsm0710muxd[1402]: gsm0710muxd.c:609:pseudo_device_read(): Logical channel 2 for (null) closed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Display of Images on GTA-02
After doing some experiments which involve displaying an image on the screen of the GTA-02 I have the impression that things are unduly slow. The problem is to display a single image (jpg,png,gif) which is currently in a file on the root file system. Image size is 570 x 420 pixels in 32 bit color. It appears to take several (~10) seconds to read the image from the file and then display it on the screen. This is incredibly slow for a 400 MHZ machine and I am wondering if others have had similar experiences. Along the same lines, the tangoGPS application looks to take a long time to update the screen from a local cache. Anybody have any ideas? -- Iain B. Findleton Tel: 514-457-0744 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Tanks fixed :) El mié, 10-09-2008 a las 17:19 +0300, Kostis Anagnostopoulos escribió: On Wed 10 Sep 2008 13:27:15 David Samblas wrote: Thanks to Minh Ha-Duong I got a brand new chapter in the Distribution wikipage at Costumer Driven distros :) so I have created a FSOM wiki page that will surelly more actualized than the readmes ( now and forward an snapshot of the wiki page) The new wiki-page is named FSDOM. Assuming you meant to call it FDOM, did you? Regards for your Efforts, Kostis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?!
Hi, yesterday evening I tried to get GPRS working...but...in the HowTo ( http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS#Option_3:_Without_GSM_multiplexing_and_without_a_GUI ) stands that you've to stop /etc/init.d/gsmd ...but in my /etc/init.d there is no gsmd?! I've used OM2008.8 Image, it's up-to-date and the rootfs/kernel is from thursday last week. When I try to execute the script without stopping gsmd, I get and thats all...the terminal hangs up after that. Hope that somebody can help me. -- Pt! Schon das coole Video vom GMX MultiMessenger gesehen? Der Eine für Alle: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/messenger03 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trouble Building Kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Yeah. I'm not trying to make things difficult for myself. I just | wanted g_ether as a module so I could use the freerunner as a usb | flash drive, which requires removing the g_ether module. Any recent OM kernel package should have this already. I don't know what the deal is with Debian and which config they use. The ones that OM use to generate the packages are defconfig-gta01 and defconfig-gta02, these are set to cook modules for g_ether and the other gadgets. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjH4GsACgkQOjLpvpq7dMp/BgCgj/0u18G63429F+YqhxHQ1gwI F+0AnjLCMDdiv6Nma1feNPjldKlBqddA =oodY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?!
Can you search the web until asking on maillist? Or only search a archive.. gsmd is a part of 2007.2 stack and it isn't on 2008.8 image - if i am correct, ASU uses qpe for controlling GSM. You should use option with multiplexing. With or without GUI - it doesn't matter. dos On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 16:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used OM2008.8 Image, it's up-to-date and the rootfs/kernel is from thursday last week. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trouble Building Kernel
Any recent OM kernel package should have this already. I don't know what the deal is with Debian and which config they use. The ones that OM use to generate the packages are defconfig-gta01 and defconfig-gta02, these are set to cook modules for g_ether and the other gadgets. debian should use the same kernel as fso does (at least i do and other too, according to postings here and elsewhere). but it seems, fso somehow changes the kernel (since suspending only works with the fso kernel) -- and that change seems to be subject to great confidentiality, since none of the fso guys answers questions, how to update the kernel on debian ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 17:53, Joachim Breitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Do you really need the various -neo2.sh, -neo3.sh wrappers? Why not have one wrapper that reads cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Hardware? This is not for hardware revision, both are for GTA02 - neo2 uses bottom accelerometer, and neo3 uses top accelerometer (or maybe in another order :x) It's only for user choose. dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?!
for multiplexing I've to disable the SIM questioning...thats a big secure risk...and it's not possible for me (no second handy and with the neo it's not possible) and if it is only for OM2007 stack, why is there no note in the wiki? thans for the qpe information. Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:12:14 +0200 Von: Johny Tenfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?! Can you search the web until asking on maillist? Or only search a archive.. gsmd is a part of 2007.2 stack and it isn't on 2008.8 image - if i am correct, ASU uses qpe for controlling GSM. You should use option with multiplexing. With or without GUI - it doesn't matter. dos On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 16:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used OM2008.8 Image, it's up-to-date and the rootfs/kernel is from thursday last week. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.8] gsm muxing and GPRS: am i missing something?
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: We should preferably have an archive of such traces so that people can compare their traces against what the working case looks like. If you have time can you check if the wiki allows you to upload 130k gzip'd attachments? it accepted the uncomnpressed file, which is now linked to from the wiki page at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_2:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_without_a_GUI (at the bottom of this section). i hope that's OK. -- Tom Yates - http://www.teaparty.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Display of Images on GTA-02
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:42:12AM -0400, Iain B. Findleton wrote: After doing some experiments which involve displaying an image on the screen of the GTA-02 I have the impression that things are unduly slow. The problem is to display a single image (jpg,png,gif) which is currently in a file on the root file system. Image size is 570 x 420 pixels in 32 bit color. It appears to take several (~10) seconds to read the image from the file and then display it on the screen. This is incredibly slow for a 400 MHZ machine and I am wondering if others have had similar experiences. Well, the performance of my Freerunner regularly breaks down because of [1]. Also [2] might be relevant for you. What does top say while the image is loading? Regards, Thomas [1] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1597 [2] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1315 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?!
now it is hangig up with QDSync : QDSyncTask::QDSyncTask The error is the same as here: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-community/2008/7/25/2679844 but they don't have a solution...is there a solution? Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:12:14 +0200 Von: Johny Tenfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?! Can you search the web until asking on maillist? Or only search a archive.. gsmd is a part of 2007.2 stack and it isn't on 2008.8 image - if i am correct, ASU uses qpe for controlling GSM. You should use option with multiplexing. With or without GUI - it doesn't matter. dos On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 16:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used OM2008.8 Image, it's up-to-date and the rootfs/kernel is from thursday last week. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Suitable USB converter
Atilla Filiz wrote: Have you found any cheap cables/adapters to connect normal usb peripherals to the usb OTG port? A keyboard will be extremely useful at home. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_use_an_external_USB_keyboard_with_the_FreeRunner_.3F I've just added a link to the page describing the adapters. Remember that this is not a true OTG port. M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FreeRunner on the Bike
Hello, I have bought a bike mount for my FreeRunner, wich is also usabel for the car. Here my Blogtext about this: http://comiles.eu/~natanael/wordpress/2008/09/10/fahrradhalterung-fur-den-freerunner/ (german) And here the components (also german): http://www.aiv.de/commerceportal/mainprod.asp?PageNo=AIV-MAIN-PRODITEM_CATEGORY=BRODITITEM_CLASS=B_UNIVERALPRODUCT_GROUP=3220ITEM_NO=370808SA=370808PS=1CP=1 http://www.aiv.de/commerceportal/mainprod.asp?PageNo=AIV-MAIN-PRODITEM_CATEGORY=BRODITITEM_CLASS=B_UNIVERALPRODUCT_GROUP=3807ITEM_NO=370417SA=370417PS=1CP=1 I don't know if this ist also availabe outside germany. be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?!
argh, please ignore that email, thanks. Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:42:18 +0200 Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?! now it is hangig up with QDSync : QDSyncTask::QDSyncTask The error is the same as here: http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-community/2008/7/25/2679844 but they don't have a solution...is there a solution? Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:12:14 +0200 Von: Johny Tenfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Betreff: Re: manual GPRS connection - impossible due to missing /etc/init.d/gsmd?! Can you search the web until asking on maillist? Or only search a archive.. gsmd is a part of 2007.2 stack and it isn't on 2008.8 image - if i am correct, ASU uses qpe for controlling GSM. You should use option with multiplexing. With or without GUI - it doesn't matter. dos On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 16:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used OM2008.8 Image, it's up-to-date and the rootfs/kernel is from thursday last week. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Pt! Schon das coole Video vom GMX MultiMessenger gesehen? Der Eine für Alle: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/messenger03 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Gnuboy emulator successfully ported!
Hi, I ported gnuboy, an opensource gameboy emulator. You can download it from here [1] I tested it successfully on om 2008.8 update. Now I'm woking on an adhoc input method Thomas Bertani [1] http://www.thomasbertani.it/openmoko/gnuboy-1.0.3.tar.gz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trouble Building Kernel
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:57:47PM +0800, Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Yeah. I'm not trying to make things difficult for myself. I just | wanted g_ether as a module so I could use the freerunner as a usb | flash drive, which requires removing the g_ether module. Any recent OM kernel package should have this already. I don't know what the deal is with Debian and which config they use. The ones that OM use to generate the packages are defconfig-gta01 and defconfig-gta02, these are set to cook modules for g_ether and the other gadgets. I'm not sure this is the case. I am using the latest fso-unstable images from http://shr.bearstech.com I'm sshing over the usb networking connection and lsmod gives me nothing. Shouldn't the usb networking module show up in lsmod if it is compiled as a module? Should I file a bug for this at trac.freesmartphone.org? Is this an oversight or did they intend to build their kernel/rootfs this way? Maybe the autobuilder is setup to use defconfig-2.6.24 instead? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gnuboy emulator successfully ported!
2008/9/10 Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I ported gnuboy, an opensource gameboy emulator. You can download it from here [1] I tested it successfully on om 2008.8 update. Now I'm woking on an adhoc input method Thomas Bertani [1] http://www.thomasbertani.it/openmoko/gnuboy-1.0.3.tar.gz you need libsdl-1.2-0 installed To launch it just type ./sdlgnuboy --fullscreen=0 pg.gbc or any gbc you want :D enjoy! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Customized layout for illume keyboard
Hi, I customized the layout of the illume Numbers keyboard a bit, and thought I'd share the result with the community. I love the illume keyboard, the only minor annoyance was that the keys in the Numbers layout were pretty small, so I had to fumble quite a bit when entering my PIN without a stylus. Also, I desperately needed an F5 key to be able to bring up the menu in ScummVM ;-) So, I basically split up the Numbers layout into two layouts: One contains only the numbers, allowing for more space for each key and thus improving finger-friendliness. The other one, called Symbols, is basically the original Numbers layout, but with a row of F-keys (including F5! :-)) instead of the numbers. I have attached my layouts: Extract the tarball in ~/.e/e (which will create a subdirectory keyboards), killall -HUP enlightenment and enjoy! Regards, Thomas keyboards.tar.gz Description: Binary data ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Display of Images on GTA-02
On my Freerunner, XGlamo does not appear to be a CPU hog, although in light of the tickets mentioned I am going to check further on that. I do notice that the machine slows considerably at times for no particular reason. Top shows that pulseaudio is the main CPU hog, and I wonder why that should be? I am not doing any sound stuff aside from the click of the touch pad. Is the source for XGlamo available at all? I recall reading something about the chip internals not being public but I can probably spot bad server code. I have another ARM box on which I run nano-X without problems, and that is a 200 MHZ machine. Graphics is quite responsive there, so the Freerunner should positively fly. Thomas B. wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:42:12AM -0400, Iain B. Findleton wrote: After doing some experiments which involve displaying an image on the screen of the GTA-02 I have the impression that things are unduly slow. The problem is to display a single image (jpg,png,gif) which is currently in a file on the root file system. Image size is 570 x 420 pixels in 32 bit color. It appears to take several (~10) seconds to read the image from the file and then display it on the screen. This is incredibly slow for a 400 MHZ machine and I am wondering if others have had similar experiences. Well, the performance of my Freerunner regularly breaks down because of [1]. Also [2] might be relevant for you. What does top say while the image is loading? Regards, Thomas [1] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1597 [2] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1315 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Iain B. Findleton Tel: 514-457-0744 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Display of Images on GTA-02
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:35:46PM -0400, Iain B. Findleton wrote: reason. Top shows that pulseaudio is the main CPU hog, and I wonder why that should be? I am not doing any sound stuff aside from the click of the touch pad. opkg install pulseaudio-module-suspend-on-idle echo load-module module-suspend-on-idle /etc/pulse/session Problem solved. Rui -- Umlaut Zebra �ber alles! Today is Pungenday, the 34th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner on the Bike
Natanael Arndt wrote: Hello, I have bought a bike mount for my FreeRunner, wich is also usabel for the car. I will try to post a picture of my cardboard duck tape bike mount. Serves very well, 5min effort, no cost and totally nerdy. :) -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.8 - unstable] - the upgrade process executed with error: No soundcards found...
Device: GTA02 Distro: om2008.8 version: unstable Last update/upgrade: today does someone know this problem: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# opkg upgrade Configuring alsa-state System startup links for /etc/init.d/alsa-state already exist. /usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1327: No soundcards found... postinst script returned status 237 Collected errors: * ERROR: alsa-state.postinst returned 237 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
I would propose that instead of creating yet another distribut (tm) you provide modified packages that can just be installed through OPKG on Om2008.x Multiverse. So if some modification I make on FSOM goes upstream then next releases will catch his own modificati To the extent that FDOM is a base system plus a select set of packages, it should be possible to define a task package that would consist of a bunch of dependencies on the desired set of packages. Since you (David) also fixed some packages, if a separate script could perform those fixes, then the task-fdom package followed by downloading and executing the fixup script would presumably get you to the same point. Not a trivial task to do all of the above... One thing missing is that you test with the versions you use; relying on the current versions of packages from the repositories would likely break some things. -- Craig ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trouble Building Kernel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Any recent OM kernel package should have this already. I don't | know what the deal is with Debian and which config they use. The | ones that OM use to generate the packages are defconfig-gta01 and | defconfig-gta02, these are set to cook modules for g_ether and the | other gadgets. | | I'm not sure this is the case. | | I am using the latest fso-unstable images from | http://shr.bearstech.com Well I did say OM kernel package. | I'm sshing over the usb networking connection and lsmod gives me | nothing. Shouldn't the usb networking module show up in lsmod if it | is compiled as a module? Yes, it's a pretty good test. | Should I file a bug for this at trac.freesmartphone.org? Is this an | oversight or did they intend to build their kernel/rootfs this way? | Maybe the autobuilder is setup to use defconfig-2.6.24 instead? I have no idea about FSO intention about the kernel or which config they like to use. defconfig-2.6.24 is nice because you can just update the monolithic kernel and forget about modules for most cases, but the defconfig-gta02 that makes more modules is best for packaging since it gives the flexibility about gadget mode you want. I would bring it up with them, maybe it's like it is right now because nobody mentioned about different config possibility being useful. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkjIAp4ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMp6swCgiuuE6O6LRY3BkbmnGHkHRkIZ Qd8An3mMHmXpXmbeC3Oz/i9vhD7kkq03 =CICi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
David Samblas wrote: Tanks fixed :) El mié, 10-09-2008 a las 17:19 +0300, Kostis Anagnostopoulos escribió: On Wed 10 Sep 2008 13:27:15 David Samblas wrote: The new wiki-page is named FSDOM. Assuming you meant to call it FDOM, did you? David, please use the 'move' tab for moving pages instead of emptying the old page and creating a new one. You also missed out on the improvements made to your wiki page that way. Good luck with this initiative. - Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Frogpad keyboard and Neo Freerunner
Lally Singh wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Pablo Ruiz Múzquiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I've seen some mails on this topic but I can't find any conclusive one. There's a quick video demoing frogpad keyboard but it's difficult to see wether it's the usb or bt model.. Anyway, the question is, does Frogpad make a good companion for a FR? It appears to be so, but I'd like some comments. Haven't used it yet (my FR comes in today!!), but I was thinking the same as you. The USB should certainly work, as Linux is listed in the compat. listing @ thinkgeek's description thereof. Please add to the list of accessories on the wiki, noting whether these work or don't work. Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Frogpad keyboard and Neo Freerunner
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lally Singh wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Pablo Ruiz Múzquiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I've seen some mails on this topic but I can't find any conclusive one. There's a quick video demoing frogpad keyboard but it's difficult to see wether it's the usb or bt model.. Anyway, the question is, does Frogpad make a good companion for a FR? It appears to be so, but I'd like some comments. Haven't used it yet (my FR comes in today!!), but I was thinking the same as you. The USB should certainly work, as Linux is listed in the compat. listing @ thinkgeek's description thereof. Please add to the list of accessories on the wiki, noting whether these work or don't work. Haha, it's already on there, and seems to work fine. -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko.org is down?
Anyone know whats up with openmoko.org? -Scott -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Openmoko.org-is-down--tp1080811p1080811.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Launch scripts for Java app?
Hi there, thanks for all the effort over here, I think OM is a very cool tinkering platform! I would like to get an Icon on the Idle Screen and some name in the task list for my little Java-SWT app. Is there any tutorial on how to do that? Cheers /peter GTalk: neubauer.peter Skype peter.neubauer ICQ 18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Disable keyboard prediction in order to use languages other than English
Hi there, is there any info on the workings of the defautl keyboard? I am trying to write in Swedish but get English suggestions all the time. Any way to configure that? /peter GTalk: neubauer.peter Skype peter.neubauer ICQ 18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko.org is down?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To me is running, check if it is not a local problem! :) SCarlson wrote: Anyone know whats up with openmoko.org? -Scott -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIyBX4SIAU/I6SkT0RAgmNAKCBwMlrt/JJ74PZdkYvNZ2hAdl6mgCdFw91 txJurssMQDasVCALUOt3xbY= =0Kp0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Volume control in Media Players?
Hi there, another problem I encountered is the the Qtopia and OM media player apps do not have any way to control the volume. Am I missing something? Cheers /peter GTalk: neubauer.peter Skype peter.neubauer ICQ 18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Using openmoko as a wireless gateway
Would the following setup work: A Openmoko freerunner is set to connect to my laptop that is using a master mode capable wireless card and the default gateways is set to the ip of the openmoko freerunner. Does the wifi card support ad-hoc connections? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Disable keyboard prediction in order to use languages other than English
2008/9/10, Peter Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi there, is there any info on the workings of the defautl keyboard? I am trying to write in Swedish but get English suggestions all the time. Any way to configure that? /peter http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate I can only advise you to install Illume keyboard, and install a swedish dictionary ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Disable keyboard prediction in order to use languages other than English
There is an alternative keyboard. Check this out(I fixed this way): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Illume#Virtual_Keyboard On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:46 PM, Peter Neubauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, is there any info on the workings of the defautl keyboard? I am trying to write in Swedish but get English suggestions all the time. Any way to configure that? /peter GTalk: neubauer.peter Skype peter.neubauer ICQ 18762544 Phone +46704 106975 LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer http://www.neo4j.org - New Energy for Data - the Graph Database. http://www.ops4j.org - New Energy for OSS Communities - Open Participation Software. http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java - Domain Driven Development. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Bu mesaj UTF-8 ile kodlanmıştır - Atilla Filiz Technische Universiteit Eindhoven Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problem accessing SD Card SanDisk SDSDQ-8192-E11M
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, Kevin Squire wrote: I did try setting the clock lower, (e.g., sd_max_clk=500, even 250), but that didn't help. Keep going to 1/5 of the last value. Does that help? A 2GB card I bought was only stable at about that clock rate. At 1/2 of that last value, I think it sometimes worked, just not during heavy I/O; that's why I use the word stable. -- Asheesh. -- lilo Fairlight: udp is the light margarine of tcp/ip transport protocols :) -- Seen on #Linux ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko.org is down?
http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To me is running, check if it is not a local problem! :) SCarlson wrote: Anyone know whats up with openmoko.org? -Scott -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIyBX4SIAU/I6SkT0RAgmNAKCBwMlrt/JJ74PZdkYvNZ2hAdl6mgCdFw91 txJurssMQDasVCALUOt3xbY= =0Kp0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko.org is down?
i just got in. It seems to be fine. Kosa - Un mundo mejor es posible - SCarlson escribió: Anyone know whats up with openmoko.org? -Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New(ish) keyboard input method
Lally Singh wrote: This could really be nice: http://gizmodo.com/5047798/blindingly-fast-touchscreen-text-entry-system-gets-a-push-by-creator-of-t9 wow, that is actually freaking me out. I want this. But it stays to be seen how well this works on really small screens (neo) and how ugly licensing will be. -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gnuboy emulator successfully ported!
Awesome! Great work! Can't wait to have some input method! Is it possible to make the «screen» bigger? It seems pretty tiny to me... Regards, Tobias Thomas Bertani schrieb: 2008/9/10 Thomas Bertani [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I ported gnuboy, an opensource gameboy emulator. You can download it from here [1] I tested it successfully on om 2008.8 update. Now I'm woking on an adhoc input method Thomas Bertani [1] http://www.thomasbertani.it/openmoko/gnuboy-1.0.3.tar.gz you need libsdl-1.2-0 installed To launch it just type ./sdlgnuboy --fullscreen=0 pg.gbc or any gbc you want :D enjoy! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner on the Bike
Am Mittwoch, 10. September 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A photo with your FreeRunner in you bike would have been cool. Ok, now I have some pictures: http://comiles.eu/~natanael/wordpress/2008/09/10/bilder-vom-fahrrad-freerunner/ be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Disable keyboard prediction in order to use languages other thanEnglish
I cant stand the predictive keyboard and Im typing in English. Its annoying... -Original Message- From:Adrien de Sentenac [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion ; Sent: Sep 10, 2008 12:32:18 PM Subject: Re: Disable keyboard prediction in order to use languages other thanEnglish 2008/9/10, Peter Neubauer : Hi there, is there any info on the workings of the defautl keyboard? I am trying to write in Swedish but get English suggestions all the time. Any way to configure that? /peter http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Keyboard_Debate I can only advise you to install Illume keyboard, and install a swedish dictionary ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Open Linux phone gets datacasts
I have just found this: LinuxDevices.com: Open Linux phone gets datacasts (http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6565189083.html) be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New(ish) keyboard input method
Lally Singh wrote: This could really be nice: http://gizmodo.com/5047798/blindingly-fast-touchscreen-text-entry-system-gets-a-push-by-creator-of-t9 That is really cool. I signed up at [1] to find out when it will be available for the Freerunner. The form has a text field for make and model, so I entered FIC Neo Freerunner. The form also has a drop-down for operating system that includes a choice for Linux which gives me hope. [1] http://www.swypeinc.com/beta.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open Linux phone gets datacasts
On Wednesday 10 September 2008 22:08:07 Natanael Arndt wrote: I have just found this: LinuxDevices.com: Open Linux phone gets datacasts (http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6565189083.html) quite a interesting solution. i wonder what else it can be used for (3G maybe?) ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open Linux phone gets datacasts (a bit OT)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I saw the platic addition with the decoration that continue with the wallpaper. I like it a lot: someone know where to buy it? Returning OT: To me add addition like this would say: HSDPA :) (Ok, hoping that I can remain in open hardware!) Natanael Arndt wrote: I have just found this: LinuxDevices.com: Open Linux phone gets datacasts (http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS6565189083.html) be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber/XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 168210209 Skype: white_gecko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIyDCaSIAU/I6SkT0RAijdAKCa7w3vXlo2HaJmjQFXjJMvG+NqRwCfcCBn flcdunhsmY12IThSa8+rMKA= =0s0e -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Open Linux phone gets datacasts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There was a lot of dark days but now it seem to be the light is arriving :) Is nice to see when all the world can put the hands is something, it start to evolve, giving out something that can not be controlled, but that show the real power of a platform. In the latest days I watched the port of fantastic applications, that I never saw in a phone, I saw borning strange / useful / unuseful / crazy ideas about application, and now also new expansions. And all this is made by us. This according me is the seul of the openess: not only an API but the realy possibility to put hands on. Continue the great work! There is a revolution in act :) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFIyDJiSIAU/I6SkT0RAjfoAKCEp/bPrHVA4E07pWuXWMWv/j7g5ACfVHEj AZNXVzmv30clKLCyQWQB4I0= =CXzB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SIDplay on openmoko?
Installed Debian on my phone yesterday and when it rang my coworker just stared at me when i wouldnt answer the phone but just sat there listening to the cewl sid ringtone. He also stared strangely at me when i showed him my LXDE desktop =) Sids are a wonderful way to cram long tunes into very small packages. 2008/9/10 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Wednesday 10 September 2008 15:50:24 schrieb Timo Scheffler: Has somebody seen sidplay on the openmoko or has a hint how to play SIDs? Well, given that the FSO default ringtone is a sid tune, I'd say... 'yes'! :) (it works both with gst-launch and sidplay) -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Volume control in Media Players?
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Dylan Reilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the openmoko-mediaplayer2, swipe your finger up on down on the screen repeatedly to change the volume. Wow It works ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Alsa settings for qtopia on freerunner
Hi The default alsa settings in qtopia 4.3.3 pretty much suck - at least on the freerunner. I was able to get rid of the ear-busting (caught me on surprise) echo noise by disabling sidetone in the gsmhandset.state file. What are other good settings? I don't really want to spend a lot of time calling myself to tweak my FR2 Best regards, Christoph P.S.: Any news on when to expect qtopia 4.4? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New(ish) keyboard input method
Brad Pitcher wrote: Lally Singh wrote: This could really be nice: http://gizmodo.com/5047798/blindingly-fast-touchscreen-text-entry-system-gets-a-push-by-creator-of-t9 That is really cool. I signed up at [1] to find out when it will be available for the Freerunner. The form has a text field for make and model, so I entered FIC Neo Freerunner. The form also has a drop-down for operating system that includes a choice for Linux which gives me hope. [1] http://www.swypeinc.com/beta.html It's not going to be open source, so how can it be made available for the FR? Intresting. http://owstarr.com/2008/09/09/controversy-at-tc50-who-owns-the-technology-ip-swype-or-shapewriter/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Display of Images on GTA-02
Thanks, Rui, Unfortunately, the package is not found on the openmoko site. Iain Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:35:46PM -0400, Iain B. Findleton wrote: reason. Top shows that pulseaudio is the main CPU hog, and I wonder why that should be? I am not doing any sound stuff aside from the click of the touch pad. opkg install pulseaudio-module-suspend-on-idle echo load-module module-suspend-on-idle /etc/pulse/session Problem solved. Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Iain B. Findleton Tel: 514-457-0744 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Fwd: Re: Open Broadcasting Phone at BA2008]
I'd like to bring to your attention an amazing project. From their website: The Mobile Multimedia Broadcasting (MMB) team of the Communications Research Centre Canada (CRC) will showcase its new broadcasting handset prototype called openmokast in Amsterdam at the IBC 2008 exhibition this week. The prototype, based on the Openmoko FreeRunner manufactured by FIC Inc., is the first open handset to integrate the reception of live digital radio, video and data services with typical smart phone functions such as mobile telephony, wireless internet and GPS Some details: * A functional USB DAB/DMB receiver inserted inside a case extension, the design of which was based on the Openmoko CAD files * Custom software that can now receive live DAB/DMB radio and decode different types of services such as: - Musicam audio - DAB+ audio - Slideshow - Journaline text news (The software is available as a package from the download section on their website but it can be used only with input files because the hardware receiver is not available to the public.) Moreover, this OpenMoko based DAB/DMB receiver will be shown at the International Broadcasting Conference (IBC2008) in Amsterdam later this week. More details at http://openmokast.org/ Thanks to Jean-Michel Bouffard for making this possible and for bringing it to our attention! Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New(ish) keyboard input method
2008/9/10, Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This could really be nice: http://gizmodo.com/5047798/blindingly-fast-touchscreen-text-entry-system-gets-a-push-by-creator-of-t9 Could be. You people familiar with dasher? It's a lovely concept. http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ Would love to try that out thoroughly on something like an openmoko Dan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Gnuboy emulator successfully ported!
2008/9/10 Tobias Kündig [EMAIL PROTECTED] Awesome! Great work! Can't wait to have some input method! Is it possible to make the «screen» bigger? It seems pretty tiny to me... Regards, Tobias yes, use the option --scale=2 , that is usable. --scale=3 is the best but is a bit too slow... for glamo... try also --yuv=1 and --yuv=0 (to use/don't use the hardware acceleration) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alsa settings for qtopia on freerunner
I have pretty much given up on the dialer / phone in qtopia regarding the alsa settings. I have already used way too much time tweaking the settings, but everytime I upgrade the FR I get new and different problems with sound / no sound / sound only when receiving / sound only when speaking / sound too low in any combinations. I can't be bothered (as you describe) calling my self to find out by trial and error what settings will make things work in a proper way. Not to sound pure negative, but I'm no programmer - so for now I have decided not to use the FR at all, or else I would brick it on purpose :-/ Regards Kent Knudsen Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: Hi The default alsa settings in qtopia 4.3.3 pretty much suck - at least on the freerunner. I was able to get rid of the ear-busting (caught me on surprise) echo noise by disabling sidetone in the gsmhandset.state file. What are other good settings? I don't really want to spend a lot of time calling myself to tweak my FR2 Best regards, Christoph P.S.: Any news on when to expect qtopia 4.4? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Alsa-settings-for-qtopia-on-freerunner-tp1081184p1081277.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Open Broadcasting Phone at BA2008]
Nice - sounds like a really interesting project - Hopefully there will be some video available of the thing in action. I actually did a couple of co-op work terms at the CRC many years ago - glad to see they are still doing innovative stuff. Warren On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'd like to bring to your attention an amazing project. From their website: The Mobile Multimedia Broadcasting (MMB) team of the Communications Research Centre Canada (CRC) will showcase its new broadcasting handset prototype called openmokast in Amsterdam at the IBC 2008 exhibition this week. The prototype, based on the Openmoko FreeRunner manufactured by FIC Inc., is the first open handset to integrate the reception of live digital radio, video and data services with typical smart phone functions such as mobile telephony, wireless internet and GPS Some details: * A functional USB DAB/DMB receiver inserted inside a case extension, the design of which was based on the Openmoko CAD files * Custom software that can now receive live DAB/DMB radio and decode different types of services such as: - Musicam audio - DAB+ audio - Slideshow - Journaline text news (The software is available as a package from the download section on their website but it can be used only with input files because the hardware receiver is not available to the public.) Moreover, this OpenMoko based DAB/DMB receiver will be shown at the International Broadcasting Conference (IBC2008) in Amsterdam later this week. More details at http://openmokast.org/ Thanks to Jean-Michel Bouffard for making this possible and for bringing it to our attention! Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Display of Images on GTA-02
What release do you have? I've got ASU 2008.9.1 on me (got from downloads.openmoko.org/releases/). All I did was opkg update; opkg install bblala Remember to restart pulse! It goes from 5-10% into zilch :) Rui On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 05:38:07PM -0400, Iain B. Findleton wrote: Thanks, Rui, Unfortunately, the package is not found on the openmoko site. Iain Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:35:46PM -0400, Iain B. Findleton wrote: reason. Top shows that pulseaudio is the main CPU hog, and I wonder why that should be? I am not doing any sound stuff aside from the click of the touch pad. opkg install pulseaudio-module-suspend-on-idle echo load-module module-suspend-on-idle /etc/pulse/session Problem solved. Rui -- Or not. Today is Pungenday, the 34th day of Bureaucracy in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download
Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008 à 14:41 +0200, David Samblas a écrit : Ok I now understand , I believe you don't have to worry about this because as far as I know the pin dialog arise if you have a 2008.8 sim card compatible, and I have no report any one loosing gsm by trying to activate gprs on FSDOM OK, I installed your image and everything works perfectly, including gprs. Thanks a lot. Btw, where did you find qtopia-x11-calendar ? I'd like to get qtopia-x11-tasks/todo if such a thing exists. Julien. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Swype - Jaw dropping fast and accurate entry of text via touch screen [w/video]
http://cnettv.cnet.com/9742-1_53-50003669.html This would be awesome. -Nick ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Swype - Jaw dropping fast and accurate entry of text via touch screen [w/video]
nickd wrote: http://cnettv.cnet.com/9742-1_53-50003669.html This would be awesome. -Nick But proprietary... Take a look at the other method previously pointed by Dan : http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ It's GPL... Regards, OdyX -- Swisslinux.org − Le carrefour GNU/Linux en Suisse − http://www.swisslinux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
