Re: [ASU 2008.9] Is it required to reflash, or opkg update upgrade is enough?

2008-09-21 Thread Yogiz
  Why won't we just invent cool codenames for the distros?
 
  Maybe because they are not really distributions, but just point
 releases / milestones of the same branch ?
 
 Distribution = ASU
 ASU release point zéro = Om 2008.8
 ASU release point one = Om 2008.9
 ASU 2008.8 + updates = ASU 2008.8 + updates = packages fresh from
 latest daily builds = ASU head = no name yet.
 
 Minh
 
Actually, that was kind of my point. As was said 2008.8 and 2008.9 are
basically the same thing, only one is updated. It will get even harder
to keep track of the names next year. There should be one name for all
this mess and a way to check the exact version in case for some reason
the system can not be updated but needs to be debugged.

Yogiz

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Re: new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin 0.3

2008-09-21 Thread Olivier Berger
Sebastian Ohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi everyone,

 here is a new version of the panel plugin. 


Care to be more explicit on what this can be ? ... either you're
addressing the community at large and most probably want to provide a
more detailed description of what the program is... or it's not on the
right list, then ;)

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Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-21 Thread Tom Yates
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Hire wrote:

 Instead I find it very usable and better stability. The only thing that 
 I find totally useless is the OM-Locations... we need a very usable gps 
 sotfware like navit ( with complete maps as navteq o telealtas and a 
 routes engine ) so why don't port it onto Openmoko and use it instead of 
 Om-Locations?

i don't think it offers a routing engine, but have you tried tangoGPS?  it 
does everything else you want, given the excellent hooks to 
openstreetmap.org.  i am told that others are working on general-purpose 
routing engines using PSM data, but i can't find confirmation.  anyway, 
having a map's the main thing for me.


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Re: About OpenMoko Rotate

2008-09-21 Thread Yogiz

  1. The touchscreen calibration is fine when the screen is in
  normal rotation, to left or to right but if it's upside down then
  the calibration goes way off for me. When I click somewhere the
  action actually takes place above and to the right of the actual
  click.
 
 Which version are you using? In om2008.8 (with updates) it has been
 fixed. Simply keep the xglamo package update!
 
  2. I'm using the Raster's keyboard and I can only see half of the
  bottom row of buttons, especially when the screen is not in normal
  rotation. Don't know if it's the keyboard or Rotate.
 
 Like before, it should have been fixed. I got that problem too but
 now I can't reproduce and I'm using ASU with all the updates but with
 Raster's keyboard.
Hmm, you're right. I last updated yesterday and both problem were
there. I did a quick update a minute ago and it only updated angstrom
but now both problems are gone.
 
  3. This is probably a kernel problem or something but after a while,
  the accelerometes seem to stop working which can leave the rotation
  to an unconfortable position. Suspending and resuming helps.
 
 Yes if I'm not wrong there's something about this in the trac.
 

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Re: Om2008.9-gta02-20080916.rootfs.tar.gz

2008-09-21 Thread Yogiz
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 07:29:42 +0200
Robin Häggqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello and I just need to say thanks to all great minds here in the
 community.  Im a new Linux geek who have played with the phone for
 just a few weeks now. It works ... ok. Echo here and there but it
 will solve.
 
 Ok, The question.
 What am I supposed to do with this file?
 Om2008.9-gta02-20080916.rootfs.tar.gz
 I have unpacked it (with som errorstar: ./dev/hda6: Funktion mknod
 misslyckades/faild: Operationen inte tillåten/operation not allowed)
 and found files that look importan to the FR. I have tried looking in
 the wiki and searching the email. But I someone can point me in the
 right direction I would be happy.
 

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner#Flashing_the_Root_Filesystem

Have fun.

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Re: Audio Jack Sampling Rate?

2008-09-21 Thread Neil Jerram
Hi Charles,

2008/9/21 Charles Pax [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm considering the plausibility of a little hardware project that would
 turn a Freerunner or any computer with an adequate sound card into a mimio
 [1] device.

[...]

 Any input from the community?

Assuming I've understood this even half-way correctly...

It sounds like the accuracy of your triangulation will be limited by
the small size of the FR; and when you add in the hardware and
software path latency, I wonder if this will work accurately enough.
(I'm assuming the marker would be a few metres away from the FR, is
that right?)

I think that points in a similar direction to Al's comment, i.e.
moving some of the solution outside the FR, over USB.  That would
allow you to have more distance between the inputs, and so get more
accuracy.

Regards,
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Freerunner Review

2008-09-21 Thread rakshat hooja
Techtree - one of the leading Indian technology related websites has done a
detailed (and what I feel balanced) review of the freerunner.

The review can be found at


http://www.techtree.com/India/Reviews/Freerunner/551-93139-612-7.html

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Splash Issue

2008-09-21 Thread Armin ranjbar
after Upgrading to om2008-update , it seems to i lost my 'splash' image ,
today i have tried to write down om2008.9 splash by 
dfu-util -a splash -R -D Om2008.9.splash.gz 

but no luck , when i turn on device images from last state before shutdown
appear and no splash screen , any idea ?

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Re: new version of the openmoko-panel-plugin 0.3

2008-09-21 Thread Fox Mulder
I think he doesn't say more about the openmoko-panel-plugin because the
older versions are floating around this mailing list for quite some time. :)

It is a small xfce plugin to show and change the status of wlan, gps,
bluetooth, battery, gsm, usb and keyboard.
It is like the indicator bar of OM2008.8 at the top. It is really a
timesaver and now also shows the gsm state like strength and carrier
which zhone doesn't anymore.

Ciao,
 Rainer

Olivier Berger wrote:
 Sebastian Ohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Hi everyone,

 here is a new version of the panel plugin. 

 
 Care to be more explicit on what this can be ? ... either you're
 addressing the community at large and most probably want to provide a
 more detailed description of what the program is... or it's not on the
 right list, then ;)
 
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Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-21 Thread Fox Mulder
For a complete and working routing solution just use navit. It uses maps
from openstreetmaps.org compiled to a binary format which consumes just
~90MB for whole germany. It also supports speach output for directions.
I tested it between two cities where i live and it routed me very well.
The speech output maybe is a bit robocup like, but this is based on free
text2speech engines and not navit itself. ;)
Navit and tangogps fit perfect together for different use cases.

Ciao,
 Rainer

Ciao,
 Rainer

Tom Yates wrote:
 On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Hire wrote:
 
 Instead I find it very usable and better stability. The only thing that 
 I find totally useless is the OM-Locations... we need a very usable gps 
 sotfware like navit ( with complete maps as navteq o telealtas and a 
 routes engine ) so why don't port it onto Openmoko and use it instead of 
 Om-Locations?
 
 i don't think it offers a routing engine, but have you tried tangoGPS?  it 
 does everything else you want, given the excellent hooks to 
 openstreetmap.org.  i am told that others are working on general-purpose 
 routing engines using PSM data, but i can't find confirmation.  anyway, 
 having a map's the main thing for me.
 
 

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Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-21 Thread Fox Mulder
I also experienced the problem that the FR slowes down to a point where
it freezes when the memory consumption goes to the limit of the internal
ram. And this happenes quite often when using many programs.

To solve this problem i created a swap file with 64MB on my sd-card
(vfat, but this shouldn't matter) and added it to the fstab like this:

/dev/mmcblk0p3  /media/disk vfatdefaults,noatime0 2
/media/disk/swapfile   swap swapdefaults0 0

I know that swap on a sd-card isn't the best thing to to, but i didn't
notice any sd-card performance problems. And since i use this my
freerunner didn't freeze at all anymore because i never get close to the
192MB ram even when starting many programs. :)

Ciao,
 Rainer

William Kenworthy wrote:
 On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 21:40 -0400, Alex Fitzpatrick wrote:
 Iain B. Findleton wrote:
 And of course, the buggy software can hurt. Surprisingly, I activated
 swap on my FR and stability and periodic slowing have improved. Don't
 know why that should be, but there you are.

   
 The answer there is to run top while using the phone... you'll see that 
 it's running at pretty much at the limits of the 128MB built in.

 Adding a swap file, while inefficient, will allow the kernel to swap 
 unused pages to disk and allow more things to run, or at least lurch...

 128MB is damned small these days... but then my first Linux box had 16MB 
 of RAM, a 33Mhz CPU, a 100MB hard drive and a VGA card that could barely 
 handle 800x600x 256 colors.

 
 Is there a reccomended or best way to run swap on a FR.  swapfile on
 the vfat partition (/media/card/), swapfile on an ext2 partition
 (/media/mmcblk0p2) or an actual swap partition (is the mounting of
 multiple partitions working reliably now? - used to be disastrous :)
 
 Size: 128Mb or 256Mb (the old recomendations for Unix was always 2 x
 memory because of core dumps)
 
 BillK
 
 

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Re: help compiling gnu chess game, project with subfolders

2008-09-21 Thread Yorick Moko
I'd like the ipk

but why nog make it available to everyone?

2008/9/19 Nicolas LAURANCE [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi all,

 I'm having my first try at compiling programs for the FR.
 I've a python background mostly, and I'm not familiar at compiling stuff
 beyond the configure make make install routine.

 I've been following instructions at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain

 and managed to get gnuchess running on the FR. If anyone wants the ipk file,
 just let me know. It plays its turns in a few seconds, so largely playable.

 but it only plays on the command line

 so I tried another project, xboard (http://www.tim-mann.org/xboard.html)
 in this project files are organized somewhat differently, moreover there are
 subdirs like pixmaps, bitmaps, and sounds.

 my question is, how can I compile such a project ?

 I think this is a generic question, and I'm willing to complete the wiki
 once I find a solution.

 NiL

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Re: Audio Jack Sampling Rate?

2008-09-21 Thread Fox Mulder
Here's another approach:
Why not use two freerunner on different locations which do have one ir
input attached. They synced the clock with ntp and both of them save the
time difference between mic and ir data. You know the exact location of
both and you could sync the data over wlan/gprs and calculate the
resulting position.

Just an idea i have when reading this thread. :)

Ciao,
 Rainer

Neil Jerram wrote:
 Hi Charles,
 
 2008/9/21 Charles Pax [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm considering the plausibility of a little hardware project that would
 turn a Freerunner or any computer with an adequate sound card into a mimio
 [1] device.
 
 [...]
 
 Any input from the community?
 
 Assuming I've understood this even half-way correctly...
 
 It sounds like the accuracy of your triangulation will be limited by
 the small size of the FR; and when you add in the hardware and
 software path latency, I wonder if this will work accurately enough.
 (I'm assuming the marker would be a few metres away from the FR, is
 that right?)
 
 I think that points in a similar direction to Al's comment, i.e.
 moving some of the solution outside the FR, over USB.  That would
 allow you to have more distance between the inputs, and so get more
 accuracy.
 
 Regards,
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The wifi antenna

2008-09-21 Thread Yogiz
Hello,

How good is the Freerunner's wifi supposed to be. If I do an iwlist
scan with my laptop two meters from the AP, I get link quality of
96/100. However with the Freerunner, even if I hold it right next to
the AP's antenna I get a maximum of 51/100. Most APs that my laptop
finds just fine show a link quality of 0 or 1 on the FR.

Is that just what the FR's antenna is like or should I contact my
distributor for warranty?

Yogiz

P.S. I accidently sent it from a different e-mail accound previously
but I have no idea if it came through. If it did, sorry for the
duplicate.

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Re: The wifi antenna

2008-09-21 Thread Joseph Reeves
You really shouldn't be attempting any tests whilst holding any wifi
gear right next to other bits of kit. It's like getting two people to
scream in each other's ears and wondering why they didn't report a
good experiance. I'd re-run the tests from a different room to the one
the access point is in and seeing what happens then.

Joseph



2008/9/21 Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello,

 How good is the Freerunner's wifi supposed to be. If I do an iwlist
 scan with my laptop two meters from the AP, I get link quality of
 96/100. However with the Freerunner, even if I hold it right next to
 the AP's antenna I get a maximum of 51/100. Most APs that my laptop
 finds just fine show a link quality of 0 or 1 on the FR.

 Is that just what the FR's antenna is like or should I contact my
 distributor for warranty?

 Yogiz

 P.S. I accidently sent it from a different e-mail accound previously
 but I have no idea if it came through. If it did, sorry for the
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Re: SDL and status of 3d Acceleration?

2008-09-21 Thread Per Jonsson


Al Johnson skrev:
 You understand correctly - currently there is no 3D acceleration in the Glamo 
 drivers. The documentation is under NDA so only Openmoko staff can write the 
 driver, and there are more important things for them to work on. duke3d is 
 just 2d, same as always.
   
Ok, thanks for the clarification.

It's a pity but I understand that it's probably the only way to get a 3d 
functionality.

 SDL should be in the repositories:

 opkg list |grep -i sdl

 2007.2 images included SDL-based games, sou you could start by having a look 
 at those. I've never done anything with SDL conI can't really say much more.
Thanks, I'll have a look.

It would probobly be very easy to port a lot of sdl games to the FR with 
those libraries in place.

/Perty

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Re: SD corruption(no suspend and sd_max_clk tested)

2008-09-21 Thread GNUtoo
by the way...should I bugreport or is there others things to try such as
the SD strength?


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Re: The wifi antenna

2008-09-21 Thread Yorick Moko
i got stuff like 294/100 

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You really shouldn't be attempting any tests whilst holding any wifi
 gear right next to other bits of kit. It's like getting two people to
 scream in each other's ears and wondering why they didn't report a
 good experiance. I'd re-run the tests from a different room to the one
 the access point is in and seeing what happens then.

 Joseph



 2008/9/21 Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello,

 How good is the Freerunner's wifi supposed to be. If I do an iwlist
 scan with my laptop two meters from the AP, I get link quality of
 96/100. However with the Freerunner, even if I hold it right next to
 the AP's antenna I get a maximum of 51/100. Most APs that my laptop
 finds just fine show a link quality of 0 or 1 on the FR.

 Is that just what the FR's antenna is like or should I contact my
 distributor for warranty?

 Yogiz

 P.S. I accidently sent it from a different e-mail accound previously
 but I have no idea if it came through. If it did, sorry for the
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Re: The wifi antenna

2008-09-21 Thread Marcel
Same here. Afaik, the wifi driver is far from reliable in things like signal 
strength measuring...

-Marcel

Am Sunday 21 September 2008 12:54:24 schrieb Yorick Moko:
 i got stuff like 294/100 

 On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  You really shouldn't be attempting any tests whilst holding any wifi
  gear right next to other bits of kit. It's like getting two people to
  scream in each other's ears and wondering why they didn't report a
  good experiance. I'd re-run the tests from a different room to the one
  the access point is in and seeing what happens then.
 
  Joseph
 
  2008/9/21 Yogiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hello,
 
  How good is the Freerunner's wifi supposed to be. If I do an iwlist
  scan with my laptop two meters from the AP, I get link quality of
  96/100. However with the Freerunner, even if I hold it right next to
  the AP's antenna I get a maximum of 51/100. Most APs that my laptop
  finds just fine show a link quality of 0 or 1 on the FR.
 
  Is that just what the FR's antenna is like or should I contact my
  distributor for warranty?
 
  Yogiz
 
  P.S. I accidently sent it from a different e-mail accound previously
  but I have no idea if it came through. If it did, sorry for the
  duplicate.
 
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how to change the ring tone on 2008.9 ?

2008-09-21 Thread Glen Ogilvie
Hi,

I know this must be simple, but, I can't see how to change the ring and sms 
tone on om 2008.9.   Could someone that knows please tell me.  I will update 
the Ringtones section of the wiki to include details once I know.

Regards
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Re: how to change the ring tone on 2008.9 ?

2008-09-21 Thread Andreas Fischer
Hi Glen,

I think the relevant ringtones are in /opt/Qtopia/etc/SystemRingTones/ -
there are two .wav files in there: phonering.wav and alarm.wav.
I tried to change the default ringtone a while back, but had problems
with extremly laggy sound. However, that may be due to the size of the
ringtone I wanted to have. Didn't really check any further.

Regards,
Andreas Fischer

Glen Ogilvie wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I know this must be simple, but, I can't see how to change the ring and sms 
 tone on om 2008.9.   Could someone that knows please tell me.  I will update 
 the Ringtones section of the wiki to include details once I know.
 
 Regards
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Re: how to change the ring tone on 2008.9 ?

2008-09-21 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:12:40 +1200
Glen Ogilvie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I know this must be simple, but, I can't see how to change the ring
 and sms tone on om 2008.9.   Could someone that knows please tell
 me.  I will update the Ringtones section of the wiki to include
 details once I know.
 
 Regards
 Glen Ogilvie

Install the packages qtopia-phone-x11-ringprofile and
qtopia-phone-x11-ringprofile-app-data. Then you can go into
illume-config and select profiles, where you can change your ringtone
per profile, even use mp3's (remember that these play too loud, so edit
your mp3 and do -15Db on the volume ...).
If wanted/needed, install also qtopia-phone-x11-profile-data, for more
profiles.

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Re: The wifi antenna

2008-09-21 Thread Yogiz
On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 13:00:04 +0200
Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Same here. Afaik, the wifi driver is far from reliable in things like
 signal strength measuring...
 
 -Marcel
 

Okay thanks everybody. At least I know it's not my problem then yet.
I'll try to actually get the wifi working. I guess it's not the antenna
then as I expected, I'll keep trying.

Yogiz

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Memory usage and swap (was Re: 2008.9 Basic questions)

2008-09-21 Thread Marcel Wirth

Alex Fitzpatrick wrote:

Iain B. Findleton wrote:

And of course, the buggy software can hurt. Surprisingly, I activated
swap on my FR and stability and periodic slowing have improved. Don't
know why that should be, but there you are.

  
The answer there is to run top while using the phone... you'll see that 
it's running at pretty much at the limits of the 128MB built in.


I always thought that only free would report the correct memory numbers.
Right now, top reports this on my FR:

Mem:123856k total,   118412k used, 5444k free,  136k buffers

Compare that to the output of free:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card# free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:123856 118272   5584  0136  75712
-/+ buffers/cache:  42424  81432
Swap:65528 28  65500

The line Mem shows memory used including caches that will be 
overwritten whenever a program requires more memory.
The line -/+ buffers/cache supposedly shows the real memory usage, 
currently about 42M. If that were to reach 128M, we would be in real 
trouble.

I'm going to turn the swap off again...

Marcel



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Re: Freerunner Review

2008-09-21 Thread rakshat hooja
Correcting the url

http://www.techtree.com/India/Reviews/Freerunner/551-93139-612-1.html

Rakshat



On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 2:21 PM, rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Techtree - one of the leading Indian technology related websites has done a
 detailed (and what I feel balanced) review of the freerunner.

 The review can be found at


 http://www.techtree.com/India/Reviews/Freerunner/551-93139-612-7.html

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[ASU, 2008.8/.9] remove bottom section

2008-09-21 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
I have removed the assassin installer so it doesn't show up any more (I do
everything command line while ssh'd in) and I want to get rid of the bottom
thing with the little pluses.  Is this a possibility?  I know that it's used
in some weird and inconsistent ways, so this may cause problems, but I'd
rather have the realestate... I would think the back button at the bottom
of the app would be better than always wasting that realestate for a bar
that _may_ have the back arrow...

Anyone know how to do this?
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From C, how do I know the screen is locked?

2008-09-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Hi,

Can anyone help with a way to check, in C, wether the screen is locked
or not?

Thanks,
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Re: About OpenMoko Rotate

2008-09-21 Thread Yogiz
 Hmm, you're right. I last updated yesterday and both problem were
 there. I did a quick update a minute ago and it only updated angstrom
 but now both problems are gone.

I take that back. Both problems still persist but not constantly. I
can't connect their appearance with anything.

Yogiz

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which Om2008 version changing the keyboard

2008-09-21 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

Yesterday I've received my FreeRunner and with the help of the Wiki I'm
investigating it; I can already connect fine with SSH from my FreeBSD
laptop into the gadget and configured in FreeBSD that the interface gets
the correct IP addr automatically on device ATTACH (I will put the details
into the Wiki there in the FreeBSD section);

I've some first question:

How can I determine the installed Om2008 version? The 'uname -a' says:

# uname -a
Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Thu Apr 24 08:23:36 CST 2008 armv4tl unknown

is this the Om2008.4 version?

I want to change the keyboard to Matchbox keyboard, is the Wiki still
valid where is reads:

If you use a ScaredyCat release (http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/) or 
Om2008.4, use the
following: 
opkg remove -force-depends multitap-pad
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-inputmethod
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-im
opkg install matchbox-keyboard-applet

Last question, when my FreeRunner comes up from locked screen (which for
me looks more like a suspend, because the USB goes down as well and the
interface in the FreeBSD disappears), the small icon about the battery
level goes to red '!', some seconds later it turns to full green again;
is this somewhat a known bug?

Thx

matthias

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[ASU] Is git available for freerunner

2008-09-21 Thread Geoff Ruscoe
Need I say more?

Oh what about svn?
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Re: Audio Jack Sampling Rate?

2008-09-21 Thread Charles Pax
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Al Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 You probably want to look at these two. The main limitation is that you've
 only got one input channel via the jack, but you might be able to get round
 that using the mic switch detection.


I incorrectly assumed there is stereo input on the jack. I'll have to go
back and rethink this whole thing. What is the mic detection switch? Can I
record audio from the mic input and the built-in microphone at the same
time?


 Since you need external bits for the IR anyway you may be better off making
 a
 USB device instead. The arduino and other similar devices make the USB part
 relatively easy. Put a narrow bandpass filter on your audio transducer and
 you make the audio signal a simple on/off - use multiple frequencies if you
 need to track different markers or indicate different states.


I'm hoping to find some novel way of doing this with the most simple
hardware setup possible. Maybe we can have each transducer connected to a
bandpass filter that activates an oscillator. If the two oscillators operate
at different frequencies on the same mic-in channel, we should be able to
process this in software on the Freerunner to calculate when each oscillator
was triggered. This would allow us to use only dumb and cheap hardware that
should work on any computer with a mic-in. The IR detector(s) can also be
connected to a oscillator operating at a third frequency.

What do you mean by external bits for the IR? Data bits or just little
pieces of hardware? I figure a photodiode can be connected between signal
and ground. When suficient IR light hit it the diode should make a spike on
the mic-in channel.

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Re: Problems with SD boot of FSO, OM 2008.8, add /dev/mmcblk0... to distros?

2008-09-21 Thread Simon Matthews

  card driver not reading some cards.  The mmcblk0p1, p2, etc. device files
  actually will be autocreated whenever Linux thinks there are partitions
  there, but the problem is that sometimes when it tries to read the partition
  table of the card it fails to get any data, so it doesn't think any
  partitions exist. 

Make sure you are running a kernel newer than the 4th of September which
starts the SD clock up on suspend. Wih this workaround i haven't had any
problems with corruption of my Sandisk 8GByte SDHC card




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[fdom][om2008.8] gpg-failure

2008-09-21 Thread Davide Scaini
Hi guys!
after testing 2007.2, 2008.8 i got fdom, and i'm quite happy (i want to try
debian)... but i have a problem after downloading a package opkg is not able
to install it because of an error: Faild. Please try again.The error
message is 'gpg-failure'
any hints?
thanks
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Re: [fdom][om2008.8] gpg-failure

2008-09-21 Thread Davide Scaini
gnupg not installed... maybe is this my problem?
d

On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Davide Scaini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi guys!
 after testing 2007.2, 2008.8 i got fdom, and i'm quite happy (i want to try
 debian)... but i have a problem after downloading a package opkg is not able
 to install it because of an error: Faild. Please try again.The error
 message is 'gpg-failure'
 any hints?
 thanks
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools

2008-09-21 Thread Christian Weßel
Hello,

I have installed Debian successfull on my FR. Now I try to install
further SW.

But I get allways 

 debian-gta02:/# apt-get install tangogps
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 Recommended packages:
   gpsd
 The following NEW packages will be installed:
   tangogps
 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 Need to get 111kB of archives.
 After this operation, 377kB of additional disk space will be used.
 Err http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable/main tangogps 0.9.3-1
   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
 Failed to fetch 
 http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/tangogps/tangogps_0.9.3-1_armel.deb
   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
 E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with 
 --fix-missing?

I checked my FW (iptables) but it looks like before.

Then I tried to ping my DNS server address and I tried to resolve a DNS name. 
Both occured the same message:

 debian-gta02:/# ping 212.6.108.140
 -bash: ping: command not found
 debian-gta02:/# nslookup ftp2.de.debian.org
 -bash: nslookup: command not found

Are there no network tools (ping, nslookup, traceroute, etc.) installed?

 debian-gta02:/# find /|grep nslookup

... results nothing.
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] missing LAN tools

2008-09-21 Thread Fox Mulder
In my debian installation were no ping, traceroute and nslookup
preinstalled. Everything needs to be installed after installation like
many other nice things.
I would suggest that you take a look at your resolv.conf because it
seems that your name resolving doesn't work.
Try adding a working dns and test it again.

Ciao,
 Rainer

Christian Weßel wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I have installed Debian successfull on my FR. Now I try to install
 further SW.
 
 But I get allways 
 
 debian-gta02:/# apt-get install tangogps
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 Recommended packages:
   gpsd
 The following NEW packages will be installed:
   tangogps
 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
 Need to get 111kB of archives.
 After this operation, 377kB of additional disk space will be used.
 Err http://ftp2.de.debian.org unstable/main tangogps 0.9.3-1
   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
 Failed to fetch 
 http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/tangogps/tangogps_0.9.3-1_armel.deb
   Temporary failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org'
 E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with 
 --fix-missing?
 
 I checked my FW (iptables) but it looks like before.
 
 Then I tried to ping my DNS server address and I tried to resolve a DNS name. 
 Both occured the same message:
 
 debian-gta02:/# ping 212.6.108.140
 -bash: ping: command not found
 debian-gta02:/# nslookup ftp2.de.debian.org
 -bash: nslookup: command not found
 
 Are there no network tools (ping, nslookup, traceroute, etc.) installed?
 
 debian-gta02:/# find /|grep nslookup
 
 ... results nothing.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [ASU, 2008.8/.9] remove bottom section

2008-09-21 Thread Vikas Saurabh
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 I have removed the assassin installer so it doesn't show up any more (I do
 everything command line while ssh'd in) and I want to get rid of the bottom
 thing with the little pluses.  Is this a possibility?  I know that it's used
 in some weird and inconsistent ways, so this may cause problems, but I'd
 rather have the realestate... I would think the back button at the bottom
 of the app would be better than always wasting that realestate for a bar
 that _may_ have the back arrow...

 Anyone know how to do this?

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 I am not exactly sure how to do that. But the tango theme doesn't have it,
so it should surely be possible to have some modification in .edj file for
illume.

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Re: Audio Jack Sampling Rate?

2008-09-21 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/9/21 Charles Pax [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 All the Freerunner would be needed for is processing the input of the
 mic-in. The freerunner microphone isn't used. Imagine a stick with two
 microphones glued 400 cm apart and connected to a audio cable. There is more
 to it, but that's pretty much what it would look like.

OK, I see now, that makes sense.  I had thought you were talking about
two microphones in the FR itself.

Best wishes,
Neil

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New rotate for OpenMoko

2008-09-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Hi,

As said before, since I’m not entirely happy with the previous version
of Rotate for OpenMoko, also using it as a way to learn how to write
programs for it, I’m writing a new version of Rotate for OpenMoko.

I’m now announcing the first results: release 0.1.0 is out (signature)!
The tar.gz file contains both source and a binary suited to run on
Om200x.y (at least 2008.9 should work).

Be careful, it bytes.. :)

$ cat ChangeLog
2008-09-21 - 0.1.0 - First release.
Current Features:
* makes some rotations

Known Issues:
* reading from the accelerometer hangs after X time/reads
* some heuristic values may need finetunning (specially when
  laying around, turned up)

Near Future:
* don't rotate when screen is locked
* change profile to silent/meeting when phone is turned down
  and revert when it is turned back up


http://files.1407.org/openmoko/rotate/rotate-0.1.0.tar.gz
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Re: Audio Jack Sampling Rate?

2008-09-21 Thread Nicolas Laurance
why not try this technique through the bluetooth ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgKCrGvShZs

that is, using a wiimote

regards

NiL

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Re: help compiling gnu chess game, project with subfolders

2008-09-21 Thread Nicolas Laurance
see

http://www.zindep.com/blog-zindep/openmoko-chess/

for info and download

direct access for the package

http://www.zindep.com/blog-zindep/openmoko-chess/gnuchess_0.1_armv4t.ipk/view


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[FSO] a couple of things

2008-09-21 Thread Fredrik Wendt
Hi.

Playing with FSO is fun as always, but there are a couple of things that
hinders me from being productive.

* I've failed to find dbus methods to call for sending SMS messages.

* I still can't use a keyboard via USB in X. This means I need a
computer to enter code.
Actually with FSO testing image of 20080921 (the 09:xx build) I can't
get my phone into USB host mode.

The steps I normally take is
* boot Fr
* ssh in via USB
* start bluetooth and set up IP connection
* dump USB cable
* try to get it into host mode (used to work)

* Finally, the lack of locale support for sv_SE.UTF-8 prevents me from
using the phone on a day-to-day basis. (Can't use IRC properly via ssh.)

FIXED:
* offset when X is rotated. xrandr -o 1

/ Fredrik


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Re: [FSO] a couple of things

2008-09-21 Thread Fredrik Wendt
sön 2008-09-21 klockan 22:23 +0200 skrev Fredrik Wendt:
 * I still can't use a keyboard via USB in X. This means I need a
 computer to enter code.
 Actually with FSO testing image of 20080921 (the 09:xx build) I can't
 get my phone into USB host mode.

Hmm. Don't know what I was on. What happens is that /dev/input/event5 is
there, hexdump on it shows data but NumLock and CapsLock doesn't light
up when hit (it did this before).

There's no input in X. After /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm restart
and /etc/init.d/frameworkd restart I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card/software/install# lsof  | grep event5
python1621  root   12r   CHR  13,691560 
/dev/input/event5
python1621  root   16r   CHR  13,691560 
/dev/input/event5
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/media/card/software/install# ps 1621
  PID TTY  STAT   TIME COMMAND
 1621 ?Ss 0:26 python /usr/bin/frameworkd

Any help would be highly appreciated.

/ Fredrik

PS. xev isn't installed with the images built. DS


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Neopwn

2008-09-21 Thread Joseph Reeves
I'm sure others have seen the Slashdot article, but in case you haven't:

http://mobile.slashdot.org/mobile/08/09/21/1730256.shtml

I'm just looking forward to being able to download the code to run on
one of my phones :)

Joseph

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Dead Accelerometers? (was Re: accelerometer jitte r)

2008-09-21 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:44:34 -0400, Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:36:00 -0400, Michael Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 could you run a test while driving/riding in the car and post what the
 readings might be? I was thinking of the possibility of having the FR
 determine if it was in a moving car or not.

 No problem, I'll alter the script to intersperse timestamps and take it

Ummm, turns out it IS a problem:  I can't get any data from either
accelerometer now.

I now see:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /sys/devices/platform/spi_s3c24xx_gpio.1/spi0.1/dump
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3b
93 af b8 11 12 03 03 84 16 ee 0b 40 00 00 00 00
07 00 e4 00 00 00 00 00 00 fa 00 03 00 0b 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

regardless of any orientation changes or movement of the Freerunner -
completely unchanging output.

The third line used to look something like this (faceup):
47 00 e4 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 01 00 35 00 00

The first '01' is X, the second '01' is Y, the '35' is Z.  Those three
values are all that changed.

I've tried rebooting, I've tried powerdown and restart, both without and
with battery removal, I've tried explicitly activating the sensor (hadn't
needed to before) at
/sys/devices/platform/spi_s3c24xx_gpio.1/spi0.1/power/wakeup.  Same with
spi0.0 sensor - unchanging near-zero outputs on all three axes.  (Values
wrap from 00 to FF with FF representing '-1' - IE the face-down reading
would have something around C5 for the Z reading)

I'm about to reflash and reconstruct my environment, (I'd added celtune
repository to get linphone running, forgot to remove it and opkg upgrade
pulled a bunch of packages from there - after a second opkg upgrade
enlightenment is broken and won't start on reboot) will update afterwards,
and hopefully be able to post the requested data tomorrow...

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g_file_storage

2008-09-21 Thread Christian Adams
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rmmod g_ether
modprobe g_file_storage file=...

but what - at least for me - not works is:

rmmod g_file_storage (modprobe -r g_file_storage)

the shell i run this command in completely freezes and the module  
gets not unloaded

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Re: accelerometer jitter

2008-09-21 Thread Vasco Névoa
Joel Newkirk wrote:
 Sorry. ;)  Near-stationary, power consumption immaterial, as accurate as
 possible.  As a project to get my feet wet doing ground-up development
 (probably Python, which I need to learn) for the Freerunner (instead of
 just cross-compiling and fixing issues therein) I wanted to write a
 software 'bubble-level' tool. Laid flat on a surface you see a bubble,
 off-centered as a 'real' bubble-level would be to indicate pitch. More
 generally, held with the side or back against a vertical or horizontal
 surface to display an indication of how close to level (or vertical) the
 surface is.  Lots of incremental additions and changes possible, like
   
Have you looked at the Accelerometer Game? It would maybe give you a 
good jump start.
http://projects.openmoko.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/?root=accelgame
I have the first version installed and it pretty much covers the basic 
functionality of a bubble-level, but has momentum and bouncing.

Vasco.

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Re: Audio Jack Sampling Rate?

2008-09-21 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 21 September 2008, Charles Pax wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Al Johnson

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
  You probably want to look at these two. The main limitation is that
  you've only got one input channel via the jack, but you might be able to
  get round that using the mic switch detection.

 I incorrectly assumed there is stereo input on the jack. I'll have to go
 back and rethink this whole thing. What is the mic detection switch?

There's a switch on the headset that shorts the mic when pressed. I've not 
looked into how this appears on the freerunner.

 Can I 
 record audio from the mic input and the built-in microphone at the same
 time?

Yes. Route headset (mic1) to the left ADC and handset (mic2) to the right ADC, 
then set the record mode to stereo.

  Since you need external bits for the IR anyway you may be better off
  making a
  USB device instead. The arduino and other similar devices make the USB
  part relatively easy. Put a narrow bandpass filter on your audio
  transducer and you make the audio signal a simple on/off - use multiple
  frequencies if you need to track different markers or indicate different
  states.

 I'm hoping to find some novel way of doing this with the most simple
 hardware setup possible. Maybe we can have each transducer connected to a
 bandpass filter that activates an oscillator. If the two oscillators
 operate at different frequencies on the same mic-in channel, we should be
 able to process this in software on the Freerunner to calculate when each
 oscillator was triggered. This would allow us to use only dumb and cheap
 hardware that should work on any computer with a mic-in. The IR detector(s)
 can also be connected to a oscillator operating at a third frequency.

Sounds more complicated than making a usb device to me :-)

 What do you mean by external bits for the IR? Data bits or just little
 pieces of hardware? I figure a photodiode can be connected between signal
 and ground. When suficient IR light hit it the diode should make a spike on
 the mic-in channel.

Bits as in components. I've not tried a photodiode on a mic input, but it 
sounds like the sort of thing someone might have done for lirc hardware.

 -Charles Pax



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Re: how to change the ring tone on 2008.9 ?

2008-09-21 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote:
 Install the packages qtopia-phone-x11-ringprofile and
 qtopia-phone-x11-ringprofile-app-data. Then you can go into
 illume-config and select profiles, where you can change your ringtone
 per profile, even use mp3's (remember that these play too loud, so edit
 your mp3 and do -15Db on the volume ...).

Follow this [1] for getting the proper ringtone adjustment.

[1] http://www.teaparty.net/technotes/openmoko-2.html#Custom-ringtone

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Re: The wifi antenna

2008-09-21 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Yogiz wrote:
 On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 13:00:04 +0200
 Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Same here. Afaik, the wifi driver is far from reliable in things like
 signal strength measuring...
 Okay thanks everybody. At least I know it's not my problem then yet.
 I'll try to actually get the wifi working. I guess it's not the antenna
 then as I expected, I'll keep trying.

No... I can confirm that it is a common problem.

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Re: [ASU, 2008.8/.9] remove bottom section

2008-09-21 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Vikas Saurabh wrote:
 I have removed the assassin installer so it doesn't show up any more
 (I do everything command line while ssh'd in) and I want to get rid
 of the bottom thing with the little pluses.  Is this a possibility? 
 
 Anyone know how to do this?
  I am not exactly sure how to do that. But the tango theme doesn't have
 it, so it should surely be possible to have some modification in .edj
 file for illume.

Yes... It should be quite easy. Just decompile the edj file, comment the
proper section (compare to the tango freerunner.edc file) and recompile
it back.

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Re: Audio Jack Sampling Rate?

2008-09-21 Thread Charles Pax
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Al Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  Can I
  record audio from the mic input and the built-in microphone at the same
  time?

 Yes. Route headset (mic1) to the left ADC and handset (mic2) to the right
 ADC,
 then set the record mode to stereo.


This is good news.


   Since you need external bits for the IR anyway you may be better off
   making a
   USB device instead. The arduino and other similar devices make the USB
   part relatively easy. Put a narrow bandpass filter on your audio
   transducer and you make the audio signal a simple on/off - use multiple
   frequencies if you need to track different markers or indicate
 different
   states.
 
  I'm hoping to find some novel way of doing this with the most simple
  hardware setup possible. Maybe we can have each transducer connected to a
  bandpass filter that activates an oscillator. If the two oscillators
  operate at different frequencies on the same mic-in channel, we should be
  able to process this in software on the Freerunner to calculate when each
  oscillator was triggered. This would allow us to use only dumb and cheap
  hardware that should work on any computer with a mic-in. The IR
 detector(s)
  can also be connected to a oscillator operating at a third frequency.

 Sounds more complicated than making a usb device to me :-)


It probably is, but would make for an inexpensive piece of hardware.
However, now that you've told me we can record from both the handset and
headset the only necessary external hardware should be some wire with a 2.4
mm plug, a transducer, and a photodiode. Now we're pretty much back to my
original idea, but with less necessary hardware. Thanks.


  What do you mean by external bits for the IR? Data bits or just little
  pieces of hardware? I figure a photodiode can be connected between signal
  and ground. When suficient IR light hit it the diode should make a spike
 on
  the mic-in channel.

 Bits as in components. I've not tried a photodiode on a mic input, but it
 sounds like the sort of thing someone might have done for lirc hardware.


One time I decoded the signal from an IR personal response system [1] by
pointing the transmitter at a photodiode connected to the mic-in port of my
laptop, so I know that would work.

-Charles Pax

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audience_response
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Re: Audio Jack Sampling Rate?

2008-09-21 Thread Charles Pax
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Nicolas Laurance [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 why not try this technique through the bluetooth ?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgKCrGvShZs

 that is, using a wiimote


I think I will investigate this option. I've thought about it before, but
couldn't find any Linux software. Now, however, I see there it can be done
in Linux and there's even a nice GUI [1]. On Johnny Lee's site [2] I've
found a really cool physics simulation application [3] that I'm really
excited to try with my students.

Thanks for the info.

-Charles Pax

[1] http://www.stepd.ca/gtkwhiteboard/
[2] http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~johnny/projects/wii/
[3] http://www.phunland.com/wiki/Home
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Re: DeadAccelerometers?

2008-09-21 Thread Dima Kogan
As Andy said in another post, there are some kernel patches coming to
fix this. I have much better luck after I apply this patch:

http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/gitweb?p=kernel.git;a=commit;h=c0a2797d7ba8f6e07187794ccd2664ca3209b613

This isn't in the stable kernel tree yet, so Andy's still working on it
presumably, but if you want something NOW, this may fix your woes.

On Sun, 21 Sep 2008 23:07:00 -0400
Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 well, I flashed as follows, both rootfs and kernel from each:
 
 testing-om-gta02-20080921, 'base/empty' - seems a bit TOO empty, as I
 was unable to establish any USBnet communications with it.
 
 So I flashed to 2008.9 'stable' - accelerometers dead.
 
 Tried 2008.8-update - accelerometers dead.
 
 Tried 2008.08.08 - same deadness.  Getting worried now - this one
 surely would have worked if it were a software matter...
 
 Tried 2008.4 - turns out it didn't offer sysfs access to
 accelerometers.
 
 Back to 2008.9 - still no joy.
 
 each reboot, it seems, the output from the accelerometers is slightly
 different, although each time each axis registers within the range of
 -5 to +12, and remains unchanged until the Freerunner is powered down.
 
 Then I checked again under 2008.9 (fresh flash) at ten minutes uptime,
 after composing this message, and suddenly both are reading dynamic
 data again!!  I'm happy, but now I'm thoroughly confused, and
 somewhat worried as to what could have caused this in the first
 place...  (as well as irritated that I went through 6 complete
 reflashes before it reached a working state again, something like 6
 hours wasted and nothing learned)
 
 j

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Re: g_file_storage

2008-09-21 Thread Dale Maggee
Christian Adams wrote:
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 moinmoin,

 did anyone manage to get the usb-gadget g_file_storage to work properly?
 for me it's no problem to do:

 ifconfig usb0 down
 rmmod cdc-ether
 rmmod g_ether
 modprobe g_file_storage file=...

 but what - at least for me - not works is:

 rmmod g_file_storage (modprobe -r g_file_storage)

 the shell i run this command in completely freezes and the module  
 gets not unloaded

 ciao,
   morlac
I see this problem if I try to switch to file storage mode from a 
script. If I run the commands from a terminal it works fine, but if i 
run it from a script it totally freezes the freerunner.

I've also had limited success connecting it to machines in file storage 
mode:
 - Connected to my fedora box just fine, automounted, and popped up a 
nautilus window showing SD card contents
 - Connected to my mate's mac, and saw nothing at all
 - Connected to my mate's windoze box, and the device was detected as a 
USB storage device, but the drive didn't show up for some reason. I even 
looked in 'disk management' and it doesn't show up as a drive, so it's 
not a problem with partitions as far as I can tell.

Before anybody asks, yes, my SD card is formatted as Fat32, not ext2:
Device Boot  Start End  Blocks  Id System
/dev/mmcblk0p1  43   81821 7973376   b Win95 FAT32


I've found the best way to switch back to usb ethernet mode is to do it 
the windows way: reboot!
-Dale

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Re: DeadAccelerometers?

2008-09-21 Thread roguemoko
Joel Newkirk wrote:
 Then I checked again under 2008.9 (fresh flash) at ten minutes uptime,
 after composing this message, and suddenly both are reading dynamic data
 again!!  I'm happy, but now I'm thoroughly confused, and somewhat worried
 as to what could have caused this in the first place...  (as well as
 irritated that I went through 6 complete reflashes before it reached a
 working state again, something like 6 hours wasted and nothing learned)

There seems to be something significant about uptime.  Until the system 
has been running for a while, I receive frequency warnings when running 
top and there is mild instability in certain areas.

Allowing the system to be up for some time seems to rectify all the 
problems I am seeing.

Googling the problem suggests that it may be a linux/arm specific thing.

As far as devices being dead, I wonder if it applies to more than the 
accelerometers ... ie. I've noticed that GPS straight after boot is next 
to useless but half an hour later I'll have no problems.

Out of habit I now leave the phone running as long as possible which 
means these problems are less than tangible ... but they may still exist 
and they may be broader, as I only use certain facilities.

Sarton

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problems while installing remoko. (Erros on python-textutils)

2008-09-21 Thread Orlando
While reading this document.

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Bluetooth_remote_controller

I tried to install the dependecies first.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc# opkg install remokoserver python-ecore python-edbus
python-edje python-evas python-dbus python-textutils
Package remokoserver (0.2) installed in root is up to date.
Package python-ecore (0.2.1+svnr35818-r2) installed in root is up to date.
Package python-edbus (0.1.1+svnr35818-r3) installed in root is up to date.
Package python-edje (0.2.1+svnr35818-r3) installed in root is up to date.
Package python-evas (0.2.1+svnr35818-r1) installed in root is up to date.
Package python-dbus (0.82.4-ml4) installed in root is up to date.
Installing python-textutils (2.5.2-ml0) to root...
Downloading
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/python-textutils_2.5.2-ml0_armv4t.opk
An error ocurred, return value: 17.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc#

While checking the errors here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Opkg#Error_Codes

The error is seems to be a bad signature.  In those cases what I can do?

I am currently using my FR with the stable image version. I tried to install
anyway the remoko package... and it installs fine, but whe I rung it I have
the following error:

Error Information:
An exit code of 1 was returned from /usr/bin/remoko.

Output Data:
There was no output

Error Logs:
There was no error message

Does anyone has a clue ?

thanks in advance.

Orlando.






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Make util not getting the toolchain

2008-09-21 Thread Shaz
Hi,

I am compiling a small package which does not have any autoconf so has
only a simple recursive Makefile. When I try to build it with the OM
toolchain it gives me the following error message:

   make[1]:
/usr/local/openmoko/arm/bin/arm-angtrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Command not
found

The environment variables are fine as I have run the environment
script provided with the toolchain and checked it with echo
$VAR-NAME. What can be the possible reason behind this weird
behavior?

I tried compiling it with arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc instead of
make and it worked half way through (LD etc needs to be done also)
but I don't want to do it that way anymore :)

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Shaz

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