Re: [Debian] In need of debian tarball
I tried to create a tarball from my 512MB uSD but tar exits with errors. For a not-so good workaround, you can use dd if=/dev/sdb2 of=card_image_file and then dd the image to a bigger card but the better thing is just find a tarball. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
On Saturday 25 October 2008, you wrote: For anyone interested in ... Update: testing now on OM2008.8 (Om2008.8-gta02-20081025.rootfs.jffs2 + Om2008.8- gta02-20080903.uImage.bin) and seems working ... Hi everybody. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
Are icons etc back? BillK On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 10:13 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 25 October 2008, you wrote: For anyone interested in ... Update: testing now on OM2008.8 (Om2008.8-gta02-20081025.rootfs.jffs2 + Om2008.8-gta02-20080903.uImage.bin) and seems working ... Hi everybody. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 03:25:42PM +0200, member kamituel wrote: Hi, I've coded some little script which allows you to reject incoming phone calls by putting your phone on the desk with its screen facing the desk. Additionally, after rejecting the phone call, script sends an SMS with your apologise and note that you'll contact the caller later. I work some time on a phone firewall. So you can accept or reject incoming phone calls (possible also messages). Is at the moment only a dynamic library (installed over our repository opkg packet) and I work on the integration of it (2008.9 distri). The sourcecode [1] and our repositories [2]. It's not exactly the same what you have written. This phone firewall should be a part (module) of our security framework, so you could use it for our own development or in the whole framework. mfg Alex [1] http://moko.networld.to [2] http://opkg.networld.to ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:03:38PM -0400, Geoff Ruscoe wrote: On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Fabian Henze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about this one: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=stable I like the way you think! That would be great. Are you saying you are using this one? And you can ssh through usb and make phone calls and use gps, etc? So what did you do about the modules for this kernel? How do you setup a system to get the right modules for this kernel? I use also the actual kernel (linux-2.6.24_stable-54524f4531c8b2624) and it works also here all stuff well (wireless works not always, but better than with older kernels). Here I have written a short tutorial [1], please tell me if there are errors or stuff which could be described better, so I can fix it. mfg Alex [1] http://devnull.networld.to/tutorials/freerunner/flashing_kernel.php ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
For info, the site at ref[1] looks a shocker in firefox! Almost unreadable fonts and dark colours on black are not a good choice ... or look! BillK On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 11:38 +0100, Alex Oberhauser wrote: On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:03:38PM -0400, Geoff Ruscoe wrote: On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Fabian Henze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about this one: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=stable I like the way you think! That would be great. Are you saying you are using this one? And you can ssh through usb and make phone calls and use gps, etc? So what did you do about the modules for this kernel? How do you setup a system to get the right modules for this kernel? I use also the actual kernel (linux-2.6.24_stable-54524f4531c8b2624) and it works also here all stuff well (wireless works not always, but better than with older kernels). Here I have written a short tutorial [1], please tell me if there are errors or stuff which could be described better, so I can fix it. mfg Alex [1] http://devnull.networld.to/tutorials/freerunner/flashing_kernel.php ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: EFL documentation
Am Sunday 26 October 2008 02:38:39 schrieb digger vermont: On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 01:14 +0200, Marcel wrote: Moin! I've got an idea for a little app on the neo and want to implement the GUI using the EFLibraries. But I cannot find a thorough tutorial on this (preferably in python) on the net. There is one about an application launcher on the E17 wiki but that for example doesn't cover getting some text into the GUI. I'm also planning to take a look at zhone. However this also contains lots of other code and seems to be more like a quick hack (from what I read about it, although it works). So my question is: do you know some usable tutorial? If this turns out to be really useful, I could also collect links on a wiki page... -Marcel I've been messin' around with edje some. Basic edje stuff seems pretty simple. Here's what I've found: http://homepages.pathfinder.gr/kazanaki/contrib/ http://www.cuddletech.com/edje/docs/html/edje_book.html http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Main_Page If you discover anything else please pass it along. digger For now I have created a wiki page and collected the urls there: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/EFL_Documentation Shall this be linked in somewhere else? It's only tagged as EFL and documentation yet. -Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
Hi to everyone. I already posted my point in an earlier discussion but didn't get much of a reaction. The original post was this[1]. I will shortly reproduce my main point here: Me as well as several others - as I read here on the lists - have bought our FR when it was released somehow expecting it being consumer-ready. It was the general notion that GTA01 was for developers, GTA02 for end-user. I certainly can be blamed for not gathering enough information before buying an FR. But then again if you just look at openmoko.com, you get a lot of fancy design but not one hint that the FR is not ready for everyday use. Instead I read: ``If you plan on using your FreeRunner for everyday use, then we would recommend Qtopia. While it doesn't utilize all the the new hardware features of the phone, it is reliable and stable.'' Which is simply not true. Qtopia of course suffers from the same hardware and kernel issues as just any other distro. So my question to OM is: Why does openmoko.com not explicitly give a warning concerning the current state of maturity of both the hardware and the software? (As it was btw. the case with GTA01. There was a big warning.) Ole [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-October/032531.html pgpgBd3sydCaV.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
Are icons etc back? UH? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FDOM-and-Ticket--1024---gsm-modem-oscillating-between-registrated---not-registrated-tp1376779p1378647.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On Saturday 25 October 2008 17:39:18 JW wrote: vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 As others have said, lets not complicate the situation for software authors by radically changing the input methods. For this reason, I think the touch screen has to stay. Having said that I think input would be a lot easier if we had a few extra hardware buttons. In order of preference Option 1: Touchscreen. It would be nice though if we had a few extra buttons though. I suggest a joystick or mini trackball below the screen and a couple of soft keys on either side. Option 3: Touchscreen + Mini qwerty. The problem with this idea is that a small query is very hard to type on, and a big one will take a lot of screen real estate. The way I see it the only way a query keyboard can be incorporated into a future Openmoko device without compromising the screen is to make it slide out from the back like the Nokia N810. The problem with that is it will increase the bulk and cost by to much. Perhaps a better solution would be to have a small numeric keypad that won't take much room. Option 2: Mini Qwerty, no Touchscreen I HATE this idea, because it will make all existing Openmoko software incompatible. Please don't take this route. -- David Pottage ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:40:00AM +, Ole Kliemann wrote: Hi to everyone. I already posted my point in an earlier discussion but didn't get much of a reaction. The original post was this[1]. I will shortly reproduce my main point here: Me as well as several others - as I read here on the lists - have bought our FR when it was released somehow expecting it being consumer-ready. It was the general notion that GTA01 was for developers, GTA02 for end-user. I certainly can be blamed for not gathering enough information before buying an FR. But then again if you just look at openmoko.com, you get a lot of fancy design but not one hint that the FR is not ready for everyday use. Instead I read: ``If you plan on using your FreeRunner for everyday use, then we would recommend Qtopia. While it doesn't utilize all the the new hardware features of the phone, it is reliable and stable.'' Which is simply not true. Qtopia of course suffers from the same hardware and kernel issues as just any other distro. So my question to OM is: Why does openmoko.com not explicitly give a warning concerning the current state of maturity of both the hardware and the software? (As it was btw. the case with GTA01. There was a big warning.) Ole [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-October/032531.html Hi, A lot of mistakes were made, but right now we got the only Free Software phone in the market. What OpenMoko needs is our help fixing what we can do, while they concentrate on fixing what only they can fix (like hardware related software which only has NDA-locked documentation). Right now a lot of positive action is needed. If OpenMoko dies the hardware problems will NEVER be fixed, and the Free Software phone fails totally (Google Android is fake Free Software if you don't have phones into which you can exercise your rightful freedoms because they are locked with DRM, as is the HTC G1). Best, Rui -- Or not. Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 7th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
There were some emails about testing being broken with no icons and no simple fix. Ive just lost another sms on 2008.9 so I am going to try testing anyway. Looking forward to blow away 2008.9 just so I can let it know what I think of its reliability :) BillK On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 03:08 -0700, heat wrote: Are icons etc back? UH? -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Think of it this way - buttons or softkeyboards or touchscreens are just another input method - which we already have a choice of and methods to change so the only real impact on the coders should be the expansion of options. The real concern is cost - things like a treo keyboard are not cheap Having used a treo for the last 3 years, the freerunner is the first complex touchscreen phone I have used and its basicly a failure in relative terms compared to input on a smartphone. While some things like the terminal keyboard (and how I wish I could permanently disable that @##$$% dictionary rubbish) could be fixed in software, its the softkey approach thats flawed. BillK On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 11:15 +0100, David Pottage wrote: On Saturday 25 October 2008 17:39:18 JW wrote: vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 As others have said, lets not complicate the situation for software authors by radically changing the input methods. For this reason, I think the touch screen has to stay. Having said that I think input would be a lot easier if we had a few extra hardware buttons. In order of preference Option 1: Touchscreen. It would be nice though if we had a few extra buttons though. I suggest a joystick or mini trackball below the screen and a couple of soft keys on either side. Option 3: Touchscreen + Mini qwerty. The problem with this idea is that a small query is very hard to type on, and a big one will take a lot of screen real estate. The way I see it the only way a query keyboard can be incorporated into a future Openmoko device without compromising the screen is to make it slide out from the back like the Nokia N810. The problem with that is it will increase the bulk and cost by to much. Perhaps a better solution would be to have a small numeric keypad that won't take much room. Option 2: Mini Qwerty, no Touchscreen I HATE this idea, because it will make all existing Openmoko software incompatible. Please don't take this route. -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Am Sunday 26 October 2008 11:26:48 schrieb William Kenworthy: (and how I wish I could permanently disable that @##$$% dictionary rubbish) You're so right! If it only had some german dictionary, now I'm somehow forced to name my calendar entries in english... *g* -Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 07:26:48PM +0900, William Kenworthy wrote: While some things like the terminal keyboard (and how I wish I could permanently disable that @##$$% dictionary rubbish) could be fixed in software, its the softkey approach thats flawed. Replace with a better one, create a new one (which I did for Portuguese)... http://blog.1407.org/2008/10/13/portuguese-dictionary-for-openmokos-illume-keyboard/ ... or simply remove the rubish files from... /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts Understanding how it works is also good, I hated it before I understood how it works, and now I almost love it :) Hope this helps! Rui -- Pzat! Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 7th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:37:45AM +0100, Marcel wrote: Am Sunday 26 October 2008 11:26:48 schrieb William Kenworthy: (and how I wish I could permanently disable that @##$$% dictionary rubbish) You're so right! If it only had some german dictionary, now I'm somehow forced to name my calendar entries in english... *g* Get a german wordlist with frequency data: word1 2343 word2 123 ... Put it into a text file called: German.dic into /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts Rui -- All Hail Discordia! Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 7th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
El día Sunday, October 26, 2008 a las 11:40:00AM +, Ole Kliemann escribió: Hi to everyone. I already posted my point in an earlier discussion but didn't get much of a reaction. The original post was this[1]. I will shortly reproduce my main point here: Me as well as several others - as I read here on the lists - have bought our FR when it was released somehow expecting it being consumer-ready. It was the general notion that GTA01 was for developers, GTA02 for end-user. I certainly can be blamed for not gathering enough information before buying an FR. But then again if you just look at openmoko.com, you get a lot of fancy design but not one hint that the FR is not ready for everyday use. Instead I read: ``If you plan on using your FreeRunner for everyday use, then we would recommend Qtopia. While it doesn't utilize all the the new hardware features of the phone, it is reliable and stable.'' Which is simply not true. Qtopia of course suffers from the same hardware and kernel issues as just any other distro. So my question to OM is: Why does openmoko.com not explicitly give a warning concerning the current state of maturity of both the hardware and the software? (As it was btw. the case with GTA01. There was a big warning.) Hello, I'm a bit tired of all those (useless) threads like this. I DO USE the FR with Om2008.9 for everyday use, I do not even own any other cellphone. We should improve what we have and stop useless discussions, as well about Google's trick of Android which has nothing todo with free software. Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ A computer is like an air conditioner, it stops working when you open Windows Una computadora es como aire acondicionado, deja de funcionar si abres Windows ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Hi all, my vote - number one; and in order of preference; 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball On 26/10/2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:37:45AM +0100, Marcel wrote: Am Sunday 26 October 2008 11:26:48 schrieb William Kenworthy: (and how I wish I could permanently disable that @##$$% dictionary rubbish) You're so right! If it only had some german dictionary, now I'm somehow forced to name my calendar entries in english... *g* Get a german wordlist with frequency data: word1 2343 word2 123 ... Put it into a text file called: German.dic into /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts Rui -- All Hail Discordia! Today is Prickle-Prickle, the 7th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Russ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
Ole Kliemann wrote: Me as well as several others - as I read here on the lists - have bought our FR when it was released somehow expecting it being consumer-ready. It was the general notion that GTA01 was for developers, GTA02 for end-user. Well... It would be too optimistic to expect a consumer-ready device. It was no secret that the software was lacking. But I think it was not unreasonable from the initial messages from OM to expect a device with no critical irrecoverable hardware errors. Which is simply not true. Qtopia of course suffers from the same hardware and kernel issues as just any other distro. Excatly. And I hope 1st. priority from OM is to solve all these basic kernel problems, so (for example) the confusion about GSM/audio noise/echo can end. /Peter ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:19:22AM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: Right now a lot of positive action is needed. If OpenMoko dies the hardware problems will NEVER be fixed, and the Free Software phone fails totally (Google Android is fake Free Software if you don't have phones into which you can exercise your rightful freedoms because they are locked with DRM, as is the HTC G1). Full ack. As I wrote in my original post: But honestly, I still love this project. OM after all is providing the first free phone. It is about time that man reclaimed machine. And this is a very important step towards it. Still I think it is a legitimate question to ask why OM on their openmoko.com appearance claim that GTA02 is reliable and stable. Openness means being open about mistakes too. pgpl4cYVe0Pvg.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
I'm a bit tired of all those (useless) threads like this. I DO USE the FR with Om2008.9 for everyday use, I do not even own any other cellphone. We should improve what we have and stop useless discussions, as well about Google's trick of Android which has nothing todo with free software. I agree. On http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner everyone can read: The FreeRunner can be purchased from the Online Store http://www.openmoko.com as of July 3, 2008. The software available on the phone makes it suitable for power users and developers only -- it is not yet ready for the general consumer. So whining that it is not ready for the regular user is kind of sad. There is a difference between a regular and a power user, and that is not only the letters it takes to write the words. Paul -- If you enjoy your job, you never have to work. http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008 and Ubuntu 8.04 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:44:35AM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I'm a bit tired of all those (useless) threads like this. I DO USE the FR with Om2008.9 for everyday use, I do not even own any other cellphone. We should improve what we have and stop useless discussions, as well about Google's trick of Android which has nothing todo with free software. Thx matthias Sorry for asking, but have you actually read my post? All these useless discussions arise from the discrepancy between what people expect and what OM delivers to them. A clear warning about GTA02 on openmoko.com and the annouce mail could have saved us a lot of useless discussions. Certainly no use crying over spilt milk now. Just the problem remains. If you are into the community and the wiki and you just look at openmoko.com, you still think you get a usable and reliable phone. Judging just from openmoko.com, which I understand is the official company's website, there is a problem with OM's self-perception. Ole pgpAduSDi8IrO.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
Yes icons are back!! For the glory details: I've made a new status review about the 'base' image on my blog (that's on the planet) http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/openmoko-base-image-status-review.html William Kenworthy wrote: There were some emails about testing being broken with no icons and no simple fix. Ive just lost another sms on 2008.9 so I am going to try testing anyway. Looking forward to blow away 2008.9 just so I can let it know what I think of its reliability :) BillK On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 03:08 -0700, heat wrote: Are icons etc back? UH? -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FDOM-and-Ticket--1024---gsm-modem-oscillating-between-registrated---not-registrated-tp1376779p1378775.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
gsm and freerunner
Looks like the gsm chip on the freerunner stopped working, I cannot register anymore to the network, tried resetting to the latest kernel and rootfs from 2008.9 and tested several sim cards but I cannot get a network registration anymore, what should I do to confirm it is an hardware problem? Thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
Yep, the icons are there. The settings dialog starts for me, but I am still installing stuff. For the keyboard stuff, did you do anything in particular?? Have not been able to register yet - been about 15 minutes and 3 reboots so far. BillK On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 04:44 -0700, Alasal wrote: Yes icons are back!! For the glory details: I've made a new status review about the 'base' image on my blog (that's on the planet) http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/openmoko-base-image-status-review.html William Kenworthy wrote: There were some emails about testing being broken with no icons and no simple fix. Ive just lost another sms on 2008.9 so I am going to try testing anyway. Looking forward to blow away 2008.9 just so I can let it know what I think of its reliability :) BillK On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 03:08 -0700, heat wrote: Are icons etc back? UH? -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
is it just me or is somebody else also experiencing a weird sensation of dejavu? i hoped this topic to be discussed to death several times. anybody made a statistic how many weeks it takes before it comes up again ... and again ... and again? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
Nope, I just did everything on http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/getting-started-with-base-image.html William Kenworthy wrote: Yep, the icons are there. The settings dialog starts for me, but I am still installing stuff. For the keyboard stuff, did you do anything in particular?? Have not been able to register yet - been about 15 minutes and 3 reboots so far. BillK On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 04:44 -0700, Alasal wrote: Yes icons are back!! For the glory details: I've made a new status review about the 'base' image on my blog (that's on the planet) http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/openmoko-base-image-status-review.html William Kenworthy wrote: There were some emails about testing being broken with no icons and no simple fix. Ive just lost another sms on 2008.9 so I am going to try testing anyway. Looking forward to blow away 2008.9 just so I can let it know what I think of its reliability :) BillK On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 03:08 -0700, heat wrote: Are icons etc back? UH? -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FDOM-and-Ticket--1024---gsm-modem-oscillating-between-registrated---not-registrated-tp1376779p1378812.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls
Amazing work! Can we drag it into the 'examples' folder in FSO? Btw., note that once we have some missing glue done, we'll have signals like EnterArea and LeaveArea for GPS (and more), so use-cases like yours should be expressable via simple rules in our rules file. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is it just me or is somebody else also experiencing a weird sensation of dejavu? i hoped this topic to be discussed to death several times. anybody made a statistic how many weeks it takes before it comes up again ... and again ... and again? .. until the text is changed at http://openmoko.com/product-qa.html ? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 2:39 AM, JW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Community, vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to buy now!] 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 Definitely 1, maximise screen space, remove bevel on edges cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
Sorry to disagree. There was lots of info about how the FR was not ready for prime time available when I bought mine. I think it is pretty clear that this machine is a hackers box that makes phone calls, and that is what I bought. I use the thing for phone calls and it works just fine. Its also a machine that is roughly equivalent to a PC desktop one might have bought in the late 90's, only a lot more portable. Only real drawbacks I find with the FR is the battery life. Aside from that its great. As to OM, they are quite obviously not a highly professional gang with loads of marketing and support resources, and the direction of the project appears to be somewhat vague. That said, I am a happy customer because I can roll my own applications, and eventually fix most of the issues with the machine myself. If I want a professional, thoroughly solid phone with bells and whistles that appeal to a teeny-bopper or business exec, I will get a Nokia. As for the FR, you can run a small business completely off the phone is you want to do so, and carry it in your pocket, complete with customer data and development tools. Try that on your Nokia. Ole Kliemann wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:44:35AM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I'm a bit tired of all those (useless) threads like this. I DO USE the FR with Om2008.9 for everyday use, I do not even own any other cellphone. We should improve what we have and stop useless discussions, as well about Google's trick of Android which has nothing todo with free software. Thx matthias Sorry for asking, but have you actually read my post? All these useless discussions arise from the discrepancy between what people expect and what OM delivers to them. A clear warning about GTA02 on openmoko.com and the annouce mail could have saved us a lot of useless discussions. Certainly no use crying over spilt milk now. Just the problem remains. If you are into the community and the wiki and you just look at openmoko.com, you still think you get a usable and reliable phone. Judging just from openmoko.com, which I understand is the official company's website, there is a problem with OM's self-perception. Ole ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
No usb on base/20081026 (was: Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated)
In your review you state that 1. there is some new illume theme, which I cannot see for now (looks like 2008.8). Also I can't seem to ssh in - although the usb network interface shows up on my pc, but the neo does not respond to pings or ssh attempts. Anything you know about this? Maybe I just try tomorrow's build. :) -Marcel Am Sunday 26 October 2008 12:44:43 schrieb Alasal: Yes icons are back!! For the glory details: I've made a new status review about the 'base' image on my blog (that's on the planet) http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/10/openmoko-base-image-status-review.htm l William Kenworthy wrote: There were some emails about testing being broken with no icons and no simple fix. Ive just lost another sms on 2008.9 so I am going to try testing anyway. Looking forward to blow away 2008.9 just so I can let it know what I think of its reliability :) BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls
Hi, I'm glad you all liked it! I modified this so, when OMs screen is oriented down it will not reject ther incoming call, but just simply stop all sounds (and possibly vibration). Some people would probably prefer this behaviour. I'll just test it to see if it works and post it here in a couple of days. And of course, you are welcome to put this into the examples folder. Kamil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
On 10/26/2008 07:12 AM, Paul wrote: I'm a bit tired of all those (useless) threads like this. I DO USE the FR with Om2008.9 for everyday use, I do not even own any other cellphone. We should improve what we have and stop useless discussions, as well about Google's trick of Android which has nothing todo with free software. I agree. On http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner everyone can read: The FreeRunner can be purchased from the Online Store http://www.openmoko.com as of July 3, 2008. The software available on the phone makes it suitable for power users and developers only -- it is not yet ready for the general consumer. So whining that it is not ready for the regular user is kind of sad. There is a difference between a regular and a power user, and that is not only the letters it takes to write the words. Yeah, now we just have to figure out a way to let all those regular users who are under the incorrect assumption that they must be power users because they once downloaded/installed a insert GNU/Linux distro here ISO that they are in fact not power users... (Or, worse yet, someone who has been a Windows sys admin for 10 years...) Unfortunately, those who don't have the experience to decide whether they actually want a FreeRunner without that text are probably most likely to incorrectly assume they must be power users. Mike (who hopes to be a good beginner of a power user in 30 years, but who actually did/does want his FreeRunner) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Iain B. Findleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to disagree. There was lots of info about how the FR was not ready for prime time available when I bought mine. I think it is pretty clear Don't get me wrong (I love my FR) but when I bought it (preordered it very soon) it was still marketed as a working phone, not a developper phone. Not only on openmoko.com, but also on openmoko.org. (And yes I informed myself very good, I read almost every mail). that this machine is a hackers box that makes phone calls, and that is what I bought. I use the thing for phone calls and it works just fine. But that is the problem, it still can't make reliable phone calls (echo has been partly fixed, gsm buzzing sound still around and I havent tested the latest image but until recently the calypso chip keeps re-registering). I have tried everything a thousand times, 2007.2, ASU, 2008.8, 2008.9, FDOM, FSO, Qtopia... and never have gotten a working phone a lot of problems like thelimited bus (glamo's fault) were told, but everything you could read said it would be a working phone I vote in favour of editing openmoko.com, at least for now y ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
There were some emails about testing being broken with no icons and no simple fix. Misunderstanding ?? I said I was testing the official release of OM (what you find in http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/) ... not the testing release of OM ... However I think this should be ok even with testing ... -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/FDOM-and-Ticket--1024---gsm-modem-oscillating-between-registrated---not-registrated-tp1376779p1378971.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: what about crontab?
Giovanni wrote: I installed cron from Angstrom repository: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Users_Repositories#Angstrom_Repository I did an alarm clock by using crontab, which launches mplayer wakeup.mp3 It works great! I don't know why but it wasn't included in the repo anymore. So I manually wgot that from the site and installed, tested and it works! :) thank you very much! I'd be curious to know if it drains the battery a lot since it wasn't included in the phone. I'll let you know if I find out anything. bye! lanz -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/what-about-crontab--tp1376307p1378989.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
custom beeps
Hi! I would like a lot to be able to play custom beeps just like I do on my desktop pc using something like the beep command. I've looked around in the ML but I only found posts abot event beeps based on mp3-wav files, and instead I'd like to be able to play my custom beeps at an established frequency and duration. I am going to use that for short beep-coded messages (wifi intercepted, out of gsm range etc...). I guess this way it would take much less cpu and battery consuption, and would be very handy to create event beeps. I've found this file http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/beep-1.2.2.tar.gz on angstrom site. I tried to unpack and compile that on the FR, i got my executable, but it just does nothing at all: no beeps, no terminal output. Any hint? Anybody else solved my problem in another way? tnx very much! lanzo -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/custom-beeps-tp1379027p1379027.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:12:42PM +0100, Paul wrote: On http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner everyone can read: The FreeRunner can be purchased from the Online Store http://www.openmoko.com as of July 3, 2008. The software available on the phone makes it suitable for power users and developers only -- it is not yet ready for the general consumer. I was talking about openmoko.com, not openmoko.org. So whining that it is not ready for the regular user is kind of sad. There is a difference between a regular and a power user, and that is not only the letters it takes to write the words. I was not whining at all and specificly not about the FR not being ready for regular users. I was merely pointing out in which way OM did and still does support the notion that the FR would be ready for regular users. It seems to have become a forgotten virtue to actually read a post before replying to it ... Ole pgpz5CbskWFNG.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
On 26 Oct 2008, at 11:12, Paul wrote: ... On http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner everyone can read: The FreeRunner can be purchased from the Online Store http://www.openmoko.com as of July 3, 2008. The software available on the phone makes it suitable for power users and developers only -- it is not yet ready for the general consumer. So whining that it is not ready for the regular user is kind of sad. ... A new purchaser might not know to read the wiki. Such a notice should also be on the Openmoko.com site, too, particularly pages around the online store. Openmoko have been advised about this on a number of occasions, and I thought they had even agreed to post such a notice. At present it seems quite easy to go to Openmoko.com, click on Products Buy now USA Store Buy now and not see such a notice. Otherwise I do generally agree with you that these threads are unproductive. But the best way to deal with them is to remove all excuses to whine about Freerunner stability - by posting such a notice. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 02:12:18PM +0100, Yorick Moko wrote: On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Iain B. Findleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to disagree. There was lots of info about how the FR was not ready for prime time available when I bought mine. I think it is pretty clear Don't get me wrong (I love my FR) I do too. :) but when I bought it (preordered it very soon) it was still marketed as a working phone, not a developper phone. Not only on openmoko.com, but also on openmoko.org. (And yes I informed myself very good, I read almost every mail). Thank you. That's exactly my point. that this machine is a hackers box that makes phone calls, and that is what I bought. I use the thing for phone calls and it works just fine. But that is the problem, it still can't make reliable phone calls (echo has been partly fixed, gsm buzzing sound still around and I havent tested the latest image but until recently the calypso chip keeps re-registering). I have tried everything a thousand times, 2007.2, ASU, 2008.8, 2008.9, FDOM, FSO, Qtopia... and never have gotten a working phone Quite the same for me. a lot of problems like thelimited bus (glamo's fault) were told, but everything you could read said it would be a working phone I vote in favour of editing openmoko.com, at least for now Yes, that's it. Ole pgpY8qKwXW4AU.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[no subject]
Hi, I'm trying to build thttpd ( thttpd-2.25b | http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/ ) using toolchain but om-conf fails. The log is in om-conf_output.txt . As a test, I was able to ./configuremake this package for my x86 without toolchain. Also autoconf, automake et m4 are up to date, as stated by opkg-target : Package m4 (1.4.8-r0) installed in root is up to date. Package autoconf (2.61-r1) installed in root is up to date. Package automake (1.9.6-r0) installed in root is up to date. I found a script named aclocal.m4 ( here : http://svn.cuwireless.net/cuw/vendor/thttpd/2.25b/aclocal.m4 ) that seems to define the missing macros. I put it in the main directory - and in the subdirectory named 'm4' - but it is removed when om-conf is run. I guess I'm not using it the way autoconf or configure expect it. Still, is it really the solution since it is not needed when making regular build? Has anyone an idea ? I forgot to mention I looked for a thttpd package. Sadly none were found. Installing a thttpd.ipk would be a really acceptable workaround... Source directory: /mnt/data/martin/openmoko/dev/prog/thttpd/thttpd-2.25b Extra configure arguments: automake (GNU automake) 1.10.1 Copyright (C) 2008 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv2+: GNU GPL version 2 or later http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Written by Tom Tromey [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Alexandre Duret-Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED]. AUTOV is 1.10 NOTE: Executing autoreconf --verbose --install --force -I/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/share/aclocal-1.10 -I /usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/share/aclocal autoreconf: Entering directory `.' autoreconf: configure.in: not using Gettext autoreconf: running: aclocal --force autoreconf: configure.in: tracing autoreconf: configure.in: not using Libtool autoreconf: running: /usr/bin/autoconf --include=/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/share/aclocal-1.10 --include=/usr/local/openmoko/arm/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/usr/share/aclocal --force --warnings=cross configure.in:87: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_LBL_CHECK_LIB If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation. configure.in:126: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_ACME_TM_GMTOFF configure.in:127: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_ACME_INT64T configure.in:128: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_ACME_SOCKLENT autoreconf: /usr/bin/autoconf failed with exit status: 1 FATAL: autoreconf execution failed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8
Probably it's a silly topic ... but why contacts in FDOM shows a line for searching and 2008.8 (upgraded) not ?? FDOM is build upon 2008.8, isn't it ? Thank you. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Contacts---Fdom-vs.-OM2008.8-tp1379334p1379334.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:18:40 -0700 (PDT) heat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably it's a silly topic ... but why contacts in FDOM shows a line for searching and 2008.8 (upgraded) not ?? FDOM is build upon 2008.8, isn't it ? Thank you. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Contacts---Fdom-vs.-OM2008.8-tp1379334p1379334.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Well ... emm... aaa because Fdom rocks!!! ps : well , fdom is not V om , those guys are working on stability thing , we are working on feature , funny , fat and dirty things! -- Armin ranjbar , System Administrator ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Big enough touch screen (for finger-friendly keyboard) + some more buttons (for menu navigation or games) - like on HP iPAQs. This is basically 2). 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve -- Ing. Radek Bartoň Faculty of Information Technology Department of Computer Graphics and Multimedia Brno University of Technology E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://blackhex.no-ip.org Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
2008/10/26 Radek Bartoň [EMAIL PROTECTED] Big enough touch screen (for finger-friendly keyboard) + some more buttons (for menu navigation or games) - like on HP iPAQs. This is basically 2). +1 as this will help in using the device with only one hand, actually is it not so easy with only the ts. Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
big touchscreen without borders and a few hw buttons ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls
hey guys these scripts and ideas are simply GREAT! Since it's not alawys easy to find them in the ml we should build a kind of repo/wiki containing all of them!!! I think this is the true strength of FR! thank you very much!! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Auto-reject-incoming-phone-calls-tp1375533p1379622.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Auxlaunch
Ben, sorry for the delay in responding to your message. Thank you for
testing Auxlaunch - it really helps. Also, I apologize for the DMS error. My
code to parse the DMS files wasn't robust enough! I hope the latest version,
at least, avoids the error but skips the entry.
I integrated your code changes for hiding Auxlaunch (uses -hide option).
However, for me, it seems to loose track of whether it was displayed or not.
Are you finding that it launches applications underneath the Auxlaunch
window?
I had also been thinking about a way to implement some type of menus as
you've suggested. So, there's a new feature to allow for groups. It is
just basic functions for now (one level, no custom icons).
The big change is the move to a single, top-level, go button. There just
wasn't enough room for three, individual top-level buttons.
I've update the wiki page and made ver 0.5 available for download. Please
let me know what you think. Thanks again,
- aliasid
PS - I think the screenshots show Auxlaunch attached to
openmoko-panel-plugin because I'm using the matchbox window manager in
fullscreen mode with no title bars.
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oops, I've forgotten : yes, openmoko-panel-plugin is in debian, thx,
but when i lunch the panel I don't see it in auxlaunch, only on the
icones box (using fluxbox with my debian)
Le Sun, 19 Oct 200808:51:28 +0200,
Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
Hi,
thx again Aliasid, but I've got troubles with DMS :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ./auxlaunch -dms
Traceback (most recent call last):
File ./auxlaunch, line 246, in module
auxl = AuxLaunch(sys.argv)
File ./auxlaunch, line 130, in __init__
[dmsLbl, dmsImg, dmsCmd] = load_from_dms()
File ./auxlaunch, line 228, in load_from_dms
app[pair[0]] = pair[1].strip('')
IndexError: list index out of range
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
And I'm asking if the most interesting way is not to create a
middle-hand for a special menu (configured in .auxlaunchrc).
For exemple, on window :
- left-hand == choice of menu
- middle-hand == app of the menu
- right-hand == switcher
And put in .auxlauchrc, something like :
M1=System App,/opt/myicons/system_apps.png,
M2=Games,/opt/myicons/games.png,
M3=System Fonctions,/opt/myicons/system_fonctions.png,
M1,XTerm,xterm,/usr/share/pixmaps/xterm-color_32x32.xpm,
M1,Rox,rox,/usr/share/rox/images/dirs.png,
M2,codebreaker,codebreaker,/opt/myicons/codebreaker.png,
M3,Suspend,apm -s,gtk-media-pause,
M3,Cancel,(cancel),gtk-cancel,
M3,Quit,(quit),gtk-quit,
Is it possible ? Maybe the 3 divisions will be too much ? And if the
name of the top button division is under the icon ?
I really don't know how to make that, sorry ..
Otherwise I've made a patch for AUX hide/unhide (thx
matchbox-keyboard-toggle) c.f. patch-auxlaunch_hide
Sorry if the code is horrible I really never code in PyGTK and haven't
a lot of time for it, but that works.
Le Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:52:04 -0400,
Al Iasid [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
Ben, thank you for your comments! I just finished adding a command
line option (-dms) to add launch items from the Debian Menu
System. (Note that it only uses DMS entries that specify
needs=x11.)
Also, I made changes based on your suggestions. I added a -right
command line option to swap the button columns. And, I added code to
attempt full-screen mode. (I'm not sure this works since I run the
Matchbox window manager where every window is full-screen). The AUX
button currently unhides Auxlaunch. I'll investigate causing it to
also hide Auxlaunch. As always any input is welcome!
The top level icons (keyboard activiate, battery level, etc) are
displayed by the really cool openmoko-panel-plugin (see link
below). It is a very helpfull tool. Besides power and GSM status, it
shows/hides the keyboard and controls Bluetooth, GPS, and USB. It is
essential in Debian, IMHO. I think there's now a Debian package to
help install it.
- alisid
http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/panel-plugin/
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
thx a lot for this nice app, I think I will leave my idesk conf
for it.
Is there a way to :
- use right-hand entry for making a menu switcher
- making defaults sizes when auxlaunch starts (fullscreen-like ?)
- use aux botton for hide/unhide auxlaunch
and how to get your top level icones (gsm info/battery level/etc)
please ?
Le Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:06:30 -0400,
Al Iasid [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
I created a wiki page with screenshot [1]. I also enhanced
Auxlaunch. It now also acts as a rudimentary, finger-friendly
task (window) switcher. This is an optional feature. Comments
welcome,
Aliasid
[1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Auxlaunch
wifi shelf gadget
Hi what exactly is it that makes the wifi icon show up in the shelf gadgets ? whatever I try, wifi won't seem to work if the icon is not showing. /etc/init.d/networking restart ;doesn't help ifdown eth0; ifup eth0; doesn't help udhcpc; doesn't help but the latter two options have success when the icon is showing (which may be caused by something else that's being changed by the application that also shows the icon, ofcourse). in any case, when I ever get to write a script that works properly, i want to show the icon, as well :-) how would I do that ? curious, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wifi shelf gadget
If I remember correctly the gadget is always there (just not visible), it gets reports from the wifiget application and only displays an icon when there's signal strength to report. It doesn't do anything to switch on/off the wifi it just constantly monitors it. You probably want to be looking at the Settings program to see what happens when wifi is switched on/off there (as that's actually switching the wifi chip on or off). Cheers, Mike. pike wrote: Hi what exactly is it that makes the wifi icon show up in the shelf gadgets ? whatever I try, wifi won't seem to work if the icon is not showing. /etc/init.d/networking restart ;doesn't help ifdown eth0; ifup eth0; doesn't help udhcpc; doesn't help but the latter two options have success when the icon is showing (which may be caused by something else that's being changed by the application that also shows the icon, ofcourse). in any case, when I ever get to write a script that works properly, i want to show the icon, as well :-) how would I do that ? curious, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
zhone patch: contacts from vcf was: Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS
below a patch for zhone to read contatcs instead from sim from
/root/addressbook.vcf (what's the easiest way to determine the user's home
directory from python?)
main difference to the patch proposed someweher on the wiki: _all_ numbers
of one contact are added to the list, not just the last one.
actually, the last two section address
a) disabling the zhone screensaver which is probably unwanted if you run
zhone from xfce
b) catching an exception i've seen several times when suspending -- it
slowed down suspend considerably
--- zhone.orig 2008-10-26 20:31:34.0 +0100
+++ zhone.patched 2008-10-26 20:31:47.0 +0100
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/usr/bin/env python
+#!/usr/bin/python
#coding=utf8
Zen Phone - A Phone UI
@@ -731,6 +731,29 @@
def prepare( self ):
if not self.ready and not self.busy:
+file = open(/root/addressbook.vcf, r)
+entries = []
+entry_nr = 1
+name = None
+number = None
+for line in file:
+#if line.startswith(END:VCARD):
+if line.startswith(TEL;):
+number = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].strip())
+if name and number:
+entry = entry_nr, name, number
+entries.append(entry)
+entry_nr = entry_nr + 1
+if line.startswith(END:VCARD):
+name = None
+number = None
+if line.startswith(N:):
+name = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].replace(';','
').strip(), utf8, utf8)
+#if line.startswith(TEL;):
+#number = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].strip())
+file.close()
+self.cbPhonebookReply(entries)
+
if dbus_object.gsm_device_obj:
logger.info( retrieving phonebook... )
dbus_object.gsm_sim_iface.RetrievePhonebook(
@@ -749,6 +772,7 @@
(6, u'Sulu', '+013244344'),
(7, u'Chekov', '+456663443'),
] )
+
def onReadyStatus( self, status ):
logger.debug( SIM is ready: %s % status )
@@ -1818,7 +1842,7 @@
dbus_object.onReadyStatus.append(
self.groups[contacts].onReadyStatus )
dbus_object.onReadyStatus.append(
self.groups[sms].onReadyStatus )
dbus_object.onIncomingMessage.append(
self.groups[sms].onIncomingMessage )
-dbus_object.onIdleStateChanged.append( self.lock_on_idle )
+#dbus_object.onIdleStateChanged.append( self.lock_on_idle )
logger.debug( GUI init done )
@@ -2182,7 +2206,10 @@
elif name+action == POWERreleased:
if self.willSuspend:
self.willSuspend = False
+try:
self.gsm_device_iface.PrepareForSuspend()
+except DBusException:
+logger.info( DBUSEXCEPTION )
logger.info( ENTERING SUSPEND )
os.system( apm -s )
logger.info( RETURN FROM SUSPEND )
zhone_contacts_from_vcf.patch.gz
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Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
I wonder if most people's need for a physical keyboard is a consequence of the GTA02's small screen. (Well, it's too small to use as a screen AND a keyboard at the same time, I think) Just make the screen big enough to use the virtual keyboard easily, I think the iPhone proved it can work this way. For me, adding a keyboard will just add more bagage to the phone which I really do not want. /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg JW schreef: Ok Community, vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone [also realise this is still a long time away and Freerunner is available to buy now!] 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 *** Please don't write endless pages about why - just indicate which one YOU want. *** For myself my vote is 1) no, my HTC orbit experience was horrible (yes, i realise there are better) 2) yes, my preferred user input method - intuitive, fast, flexible 3) no, i think combo is too much to ask from OM right now ciao JW ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:39 PM, JW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 I vote (1) touchscreen. It would also be nice to change the AUX button into a jog dial. In addition to being pressed like the current AUX button, a jog dial could also be used to volume control in phone calls and media playback (also play/pause), scrolling through lists, and a host of other things. -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Jelle De Loecker wrote: I wonder if most people's need for a physical keyboard is a consequence of the GTA02's small screen. (Well, it's too small to use as a screen AND a keyboard at the same time, I think) Just make the screen big enough to use the virtual keyboard easily, I think the iPhone proved it can work this way. For me, adding a keyboard will just add more bagage to the phone which I really do not want. /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg The reason I want a physical keyboard is because I much prefer a keyboard with tactile feedback - you can feel the button, and you can feel it click down when you press it. Tactile feedback makes typing both faster and more accurate. These are things which a soft keyboard can never hope to provide. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:43:12 +0100, Jelle De Loecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if most people's need for a physical keyboard is a consequence of the GTA02's small screen. (Well, it's too small to use as a screen AND a keyboard at the same time, I think) Just make the screen big enough to use the virtual keyboard easily, I think the iPhone proved it can work this way. For me, adding a keyboard will just add more bagage to the phone which I really do not want. Agreed. Although I realize it would NOT appeal to many, my ideal FreeRunner would be at most half as thick but with a 4-5 diagonal screen, touchscreen-only with hardware keyboard (as now) possible via USB or bluetooth. (but replace aux button with a wheel or a touchstrip) A pocket tablet or slate, if you will. But it's vital to keep in mind that GTA04 (GTA03 design is apparently pretty well set now, AFAIK, at least at the level of keyboard/nokeyboard) will quite possibly be targeted to a more consumer-level user, meaning that the average participant on this list is NOT the target buyer. (IOW, you're probably asking the wrong people ;) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
FSO signals and rules (was Re: Auto-reject incoming phone calls)
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:28:55 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amazing work! Can we drag it into the 'examples' folder in FSO? Btw., note that once we have some missing glue done, we'll have signals like EnterArea and LeaveArea for GPS (and more), so use-cases like yours should be expressable via simple rules in our rules file. -- :M: and more - are there plans for a full-blown 'locality manager' or something that tracks GPS position when available, GSM tower registration, visible wifi APs when available, etc? Something which would understand a query like 'whereami' and return a best estimate of physical location even with GPS off, and a list of specified areas within which you appear to be located? (that last would trigger signals like 'EnterArea' and 'LeaveArea' as mentioned above, but not strictly require GPS - if my church or favorite theater has a wifi AP the FR can see, it'd be nice to silence ringer automatically based on seeing that AP and not depend on GPS being live) It would also be useful for feeding preliminary location data to AGPS - if at some point in the past I've had GPS enabled and the locality manager has observed both GPS and GSM tower data simultaneously, then it can remember that GPS location (with appropriate error noted) just by observing tower ID later. Obviously the error is on the order of miles/kilometers in that case, but that's sufficient to speed up TTFF significantly with AGPS. Also, is the intention to keep the rules as a plaintext file, or eventually migrate to something like sqlite? I can see the ruleset getting pretty unwieldy eventually as a flat file. (though I grant readily that a text file is more friendly and flexible in terms of just going in and editing something by hand) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wifi shelf gadget
Hi thanks for the answer. You probably want to be looking at the Settings program to see what happens when wifi is switched on/off there (as that's actually switching the wifi chip on or off). Aha. Indeed, going to Settings/WIFI is the only way to make the icon appear that I know sofar. I'm confused why this is not mentioned anywhere - on my FR, not even MOFI will do anything before I 'wake up the wifi chip' (by going to Settings/WIFI). It seems as if other users just always have their WIFI on ? This comment [1] seems to suggest the same. Not here, it's off by default. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:Neo_FreeRunner_Wifi#disabling_wifi_on_startup strange, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Does Pingus work also on 2007.2? Why not? Try, instead of asking stupid questions ;) PS. On my 2007.2 it works nice. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: EFL documentation
Am Sunday 26 October 2008 02:38:39 schrieb digger vermont: I've been messin' around with edje some. Basic edje stuff seems pretty simple. Here's what I've found: http://homepages.pathfinder.gr/kazanaki/contrib/ http://www.cuddletech.com/edje/docs/html/edje_book.html http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Main_Page The official EFL documentation is at: http://docs.enlightenment.org/ The EFL cookbook is a good one to start from. You also can find the API for most of the libraries there. -- Rafael Antognolli ProFUSION embedded systems http://profusion.mobi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Hi The reason I want a physical keyboard is because I much prefer a keyboard with tactile feedback - you can feel the button, and you can feel it click down when you press it. With the risk of being completely OT - you all know that the QWERTY keyboard was designed for the specific purpose of not having the hammers of the typewriter clash if you type too fast ? There's nothing very ergonomical about them. In that perspective, qwerty layouts have been legacy since the 70s. We have new tools, now we need new ways of writing. I'm very curious how quikwriting will evolve, or gestures ... my vote: QWO around the corners of the screen. typing input changes focus to qwo, so you can scratch all over the screen, and when you're done focus returns to the application. no screen estate lost :-) ehm, make that GTA09. $2c, *-pike ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FDOM and Ticket #1024 - gsm modem oscillating between registrated / not-registrated
My mistake - but then why are you saying its working? 2008.8/9 cant even make reliable phone calls and constantly loses/delays sms messages - hardly working ..., and no updates Perhaps you are mixing testingskernel with 2008.9? Testing looks nice, but as I have no audio in qtopia (mplayer works) I cant make phone calls. Looks like the dependencies in testing are broken as it seemed to miss many libs so I installed them manually but must have missed one. Have to go back to it later - SIM is back in the treo as I am expecting a phone call :( BillK On Sun, 2008-10-26 at 06:43 -0700, heat wrote: There were some emails about testing being broken with no icons and no simple fix. Misunderstanding ?? I said I was testing the official release of OM (what you find in http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8-update/) ... not the testing release of OM ... However I think this should be ok even with testing ... -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Dale Maggee schreef: Jelle De Loecker wrote: I wonder if most people's need for a physical keyboard is a consequence of the GTA02's small screen. (Well, it's too small to use as a screen AND a keyboard at the same time, I think) Just make the screen big enough to use the virtual keyboard easily, I think the iPhone proved it can work this way. For me, adding a keyboard will just add more bagage to the phone which I really do not want. /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg The reason I want a physical keyboard is because I much prefer a keyboard with tactile feedback - you can feel the button, and you can feel it click down when you press it. Tactile feedback makes typing both faster and more accurate. These are things which a soft keyboard can never hope to provide. That's very true, and I did take it into consideration. (It also made me think of some technology which WOULD supply tactile feedback through touchscreens, something I read about a while ago and found again here: http://www.redferret.net/?p=9533 ) Anyway, I understand why you would prefer a keyboard, but I do not believe it can be made big enough for the GTA03 while not hindering the aesthetics of the device. /Met vriendelijke groeten,/ *Jelle De Loecker* Kipdola Studios - Tomberg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 02:22:08PM +, Stroller wrote: So whining that it is not ready for the regular user is kind of sad. ... A new purchaser might not know to read the wiki. Such a notice should also be on the Openmoko.com site, too, particularly pages around the online store. Openmoko have been advised about this on a number of occasions, and I thought they had even agreed to post such a notice. At present it seems quite easy to go to Openmoko.com, click on Products Buy now USA Store Buy now and not see such a notice. Once again: I didn't mean to whine/rant or do anything alike on my post. I just wanted to point out exactly this. I wasn't aware of the fact that they already been advised several times about this. But that only makes my question more legitimate. Why does OM refuse to fully disclose the state of maturity on openmoko.com? Otherwise I do generally agree with you that these threads are unproductive. But the best way to deal with them is to remove all excuses to whine about Freerunner stability - by posting such a notice. See above. Ole pgp7IYf1kQKn5.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a very nicely pimped freerunner theme
Yorick Moko wrote: Does anybody know where I can find the necessary files to pimp my freerunner like this one: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/a021c845b2f5bc5f98e3b6a78ad925f7.png ? I uploaded that screenshot theme, it was done by CarloRatm, an Italian user. You can find it here [1]. [1] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,649.0.html -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Geoff Ruscoe ha scritto: So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what kernel I should use with it. Is there a best kernel to go with it? If you want, give a try to this [1]. It includes the latest cool patches (better NAND performances, less power usage on LCD off, improved Glamo speed, better touchscreen event handling) from stable and andy... Bye! [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture.bin -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
JW wrote: Ok Community, vote and tell OM what you want for the next phone 1) touchscreen (no qwerty buttons) - freerunner, HTC Orbit, iphone 2) qwerty keyboard and tracker ball - blackberry curve 3) combination touchscreen plus qwerty - G1 if (SizeOf(GTA03-screen) SizeOf(GTA02-screen) !hasHigBorders(GTA03-cover)) vote(1); else vote(3); ;) -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8
El dom, 26-10-2008 a las 20:02 +0330, Armin ranjbar escribió: On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:18:40 -0700 (PDT) heat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably it's a silly topic ... but why contacts in FDOM shows a line for searching and 2008.8 (upgraded) not ?? FDOM is build upon 2008.8, isn't it ? Thank you. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Contacts---Fdom-vs.-OM2008.8-tp1379334p1379334.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Well ... emm... aaa because Fdom rocks!!! X-D ps : well , fdom is not V om , those guys are working on stability thing , we are working on feature , funny , fat and dirty things! One of those dirty things is change config files, the standard 2008.9 has this feature you only have tell it to not be so shy and show it :) If you look at the FDOMizer. script you will find all the dirty thing we have done to it :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Marc, those it need to update the modules too? El lun, 27-10-2008 a las 00:47 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) escribió: Geoff Ruscoe ha scritto: So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what kernel I should use with it. Is there a best kernel to go with it? If you want, give a try to this [1]. It includes the latest cool patches (better NAND performances, less power usage on LCD off, improved Glamo speed, better touchscreen event handling) from stable and andy... Bye! [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture.bin -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a very nicely pimped freerunner theme
Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/10/27 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I uploaded that screenshot theme, it was done by CarloRatm, an Italian user. You can find it here [1]. [1] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,649.0.html great stuff. how do we use it? which directory does it go in, and how do i change the theme once it's there? To change the illume theme, simply put the .edj file to ~/.e/e/themes/illume.edj -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a very nicely pimped freerunner theme
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:13:39 +1300, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/27 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I uploaded that screenshot theme, it was done by CarloRatm, an Italian user. You can find it here [1]. [1] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,649.0.html great stuff. how do we use it? which directory does it go in, and how do i change the theme once it's there? thanks 'changing the theme' isn't a simple process like editing a config file or replacing a subdir of images, in this case. You need to decompile and alter the .edj file itself, which is what the download found in the link above contains - an altered .edj file. The .edj file is a collection or archive of possibly several files, including images and even fonts in some cases. Along with the visual definitions and elements, it includes programmatic statements controlling interaction between GUI elements and between GUI and application. For instance, the dialer may have three 'program' triggers written into the edje for each button - change GUI to 'pressed', change GUI to 'released', and add digit to number. Unlike traditional ideas about theming, this interaction is defined in the 'theme' instead of the application itself. This allows for unprecedented flexibility insofar as 'theming' - you can change button layouts, graphics, even add some features like 'delete last digit' all within the .edj instead of having to burrow into sourcecode. If you want to play around with edje themes there's two approaches AFAIK: 1 - edje-decc to decompile the theme back to config files and images and what-not, manually edit the aforementioned parts, and recompile with edje-cc. These two tools should be available in your friendly package feed for your Freerunner as 'edje-tools' IIRC, and possibly for your desktop linux. 2 - edje-editor. I've installed e17 from CVS on Ubuntu using easy-e17.sh, (http://omicron.homeip.net/projects/#easy_e17.sh) did so under my vmware development environment. Edje-editor comes with the works in that case, I don't know how available (or recent) it is in prepackaged binary form, however. It's important to keep in mind that the editor (and indeed E17 itself) is not finished at this time. It works, quite nicely in some regards, but has some flaws and some distinctly missing features. (like it can't remove a no-longer-used background image from the .edj file, that currently requires manual intervention) If you're interested in using the editor, check out http://wiki.enlightenment.org/index.php/Edje_Editor and the blog post I've been working on the past few days at http://jthinks.com/retheming-with-edje for an introduction to things. (my blog post is documenting my recent efforts retheming the dialer within SHR, though as I point out in the article the process applies equally to anything utilizing Edje, such as the launcher and top shelf) Also check the 'EFL Documentation' thread running the past few days. (EFL=Enlightenment Foundation Libraries, and includes Edje) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2008/10/27 Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: great stuff. how do we use it? which directory does it go in, and how do i change the theme once it's there? thanks 'changing the theme' isn't a simple process like editing a config file or replacing a subdir of images, in this case. You need to decompile and alter the .edj file itself, which is what the download found in the link above contains - an altered .edj file. The .edj file is a collection or archive of possibly several files, including images and even fonts in some cases. sorry, language issues. i explained that badly. i should have said 'swap/choose the theme' as in, if i have several theme files on my phone, how do i choose which one is active? i'm assuming it's not hard-coded in, and that there is a settings file somewhere which will let me choose on the fly, or at least with an x server restart ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Re: Call for mirrors for FDOM
Alastair Johnson wrote: div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedDavid Samblas wrote: Well some of you have send me a mail about my site is little bit slow ... taking in count I have served about 20Gb in less than 2 days is with peaks of 1 Gb/hour , slow is at least a good performance :) I will try to make a script to balance beetween me an the mirrors but actually there is only one updated http://files.tdobson.net/openmoko/freerunner/fdom/ thanks Tim :) Thanks to you all for your support :) I should have our mirror updated by tomorrow morning UK time. /div I'll place a mirror or two up sometime this week. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ``Freerunner reliable and stable''?!
2008/10/26 Matthias Apitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm a bit tired of all those (useless) threads like this. I DO USE the FR with Om2008.9 for everyday use, I do not even own any other cellphone. We should improve what we have and stop useless discussions, as well about Google's trick of Android which has nothing todo with free software. Same here. The stability is sufficient for daily use. It is not as stable as my previous or antepenultimate phones, but those were quite simple, unable to do more than make calls. The only issues I have with the Freerunner are battery life and an occasional (one call per week, roughly) lack of sound. Neither is sufficient to cause me to switch back to my previous phone. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko Qemulation
Hi, I am interested in emulating OpenMoko kernel and images on Qemu. So I was curious if OE and mokomakefile from openmoko can handle machine-qemuarm. And can make qemu-local handle gta02? Images built with qemuarm can be done via standard qemu-system-arm on the shell but can mokomakefile build it? I am not sure if the make qemu-local can handle gta02 images? I tried it and still on it because the makefile has inconsistent paths in this regards (both gta01 and gta02). If I can solve the issue then I'll also report back. -- Shaz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: zhone patch: contacts from vcf was: Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS
Hi Arne,
Thanks for you work.
Please also have a look at the following three use cases concerning SIM
contacts and address book contacts. This is an elegant way of dealing
with the two.
Regards,
Pander
arne anka wrote:
below a patch for zhone to read contatcs instead from sim from
/root/addressbook.vcf (what's the easiest way to determine the user's
home directory from python?)
main difference to the patch proposed someweher on the wiki: _all_
numbers of one contact are added to the list, not just the last one.
actually, the last two section address
a) disabling the zhone screensaver which is probably unwanted if you run
zhone from xfce
b) catching an exception i've seen several times when suspending -- it
slowed down suspend considerably
--- zhone.orig2008-10-26 20:31:34.0 +0100
+++ zhone.patched2008-10-26 20:31:47.0 +0100
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#!/usr/bin/env python
+#!/usr/bin/python
#coding=utf8
Zen Phone - A Phone UI
@@ -731,6 +731,29 @@
def prepare( self ):
if not self.ready and not self.busy:
+file = open(/root/addressbook.vcf, r)
+entries = []
+entry_nr = 1
+name = None
+number = None
+for line in file:
+#if line.startswith(END:VCARD):
+if line.startswith(TEL;):
+number = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].strip())
+if name and number:
+entry = entry_nr, name, number
+entries.append(entry)
+entry_nr = entry_nr + 1
+if line.startswith(END:VCARD):
+name = None
+number = None
+if line.startswith(N:):
+name = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].replace(';','
').strip(), utf8, utf8)
+#if line.startswith(TEL;):
+#number = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].strip())
+file.close()
+self.cbPhonebookReply(entries)
+
if dbus_object.gsm_device_obj:
logger.info( retrieving phonebook... )
dbus_object.gsm_sim_iface.RetrievePhonebook(
@@ -749,6 +772,7 @@
(6, u'Sulu', '+013244344'),
(7, u'Chekov', '+456663443'),
] )
+
def onReadyStatus( self, status ):
logger.debug( SIM is ready: %s % status )
@@ -1818,7 +1842,7 @@
dbus_object.onReadyStatus.append(
self.groups[contacts].onReadyStatus )
dbus_object.onReadyStatus.append(
self.groups[sms].onReadyStatus )
dbus_object.onIncomingMessage.append(
self.groups[sms].onIncomingMessage )
-dbus_object.onIdleStateChanged.append( self.lock_on_idle )
+#dbus_object.onIdleStateChanged.append( self.lock_on_idle )
logger.debug( GUI init done )
@@ -2182,7 +2206,10 @@
elif name+action == POWERreleased:
if self.willSuspend:
self.willSuspend = False
+try:
self.gsm_device_iface.PrepareForSuspend()
+except DBusException:
+logger.info( DBUSEXCEPTION )
logger.info( ENTERING SUSPEND )
os.system( apm -s )
logger.info( RETURN FROM SUSPEND )
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Re: [FDOM] best kernel to use for new release
Hi Geeoff, How does this relate to mwebster's kernel http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html Which one is more stable, latest and greatest? Thanks, Pander David Samblas wrote: Marc, those it need to update the modules too? El lun, 27-10-2008 a las 00:47 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) escribió: Geoff Ruscoe ha scritto: So I'm downloading the new FDOM image, but unfortunately I don't see what kernel I should use with it. Is there a best kernel to go with it? If you want, give a try to this [1]. It includes the latest cool patches (better NAND performances, less power usage on LCD off, improved Glamo speed, better touchscreen event handling) from stable and andy... Bye! [1] http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/uImage-gta02-stable-3v1n0-git-mixture.bin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[2008.9] Forcing the charge rate on alternate chargers
Hello all, Is it possible to force the charging rate to a particular (500/1000 mA)? I have a vehicle cigarette lighter - USB charging adaptor capable of 1A, but I'm pretty sure my FR only charges at 100 mA. I'd like to force it to charge at at least 500mA. I know there is some detection circuitry to detect the FR charger and then it charges at the 1A rate, but obviously my adaptor lacks the indicator. I remember seeing something on the wiki a while back, but I can't seem to find it now. Any suggestions? Cameron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a very nicely pimped freerunner theme
Hi Marco, Looks nice! Here are some updates for the original/default theme in terms of application icons. Perhaps something for the next FDOM release. https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2086 Regards, Pander Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Yorick Moko wrote: Does anybody know where I can find the necessary files to pimp my freerunner like this one: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/files/a021c845b2f5bc5f98e3b6a78ad925f7.png ? I uploaded that screenshot theme, it was done by CarloRatm, an Italian user. You can find it here [1]. [1] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,649.0.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA03 - buttons or touchscreen
Sunday 26 October 2008 pike wrote: Hi The reason I want a physical keyboard is because I much prefer a keyboard with tactile feedback - you can feel the button, and you can feel it click down when you press it. With the risk of being completely OT - you all know that the QWERTY keyboard was designed for the specific purpose of not having the hammers of the typewriter clash if you type too fast ? There's nothing very ergonomical about them. In that perspective, qwerty layouts have been legacy since the 70s. Yup, acutely aware of this, and also of the fact that i personally find it much more difficult to move one finger a short distance than i find it to press two fingers in sequence. So... yeah, the guys that designed the qwerty keyboard with slowing people down in mind kinda shot themselves in the feet on that one ;) (que the responses from the dvorak crowd ;) ) ..Dan // Leinir.. http://leinir.dk/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.9] Forcing the charge rate on alternate chargers
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:36:40 -0400, Cameron Frazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Is it possible to force the charging rate to a particular (500/1000 mA)? I have a vehicle cigarette lighter - USB charging adaptor capable of 1A, but I'm pretty sure my FR only charges at 100 mA. I'd like to force it to charge at at least 500mA. I know there is some detection circuitry to detect the FR charger and then it charges at the 1A rate, but obviously my adaptor lacks the indicator. I remember seeing something on the wiki a while back, but I can't seem to find it now. Any suggestions? Cameron http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs#.2Fsys.2Fdevices.2Fplatform.2Fs3c2440-i2c.2Fi2c-adapter.2Fi2c-0.2F0-0073.2Fforce_usb_limit_dangerous http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_USB_charger_specifications_and_compatibility_list j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
