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Re: [Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

2008-12-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors

Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes:
 That's not good.
 Is there another way to get the wlan status with help of a console
 command like dbus or anything else?

I am not sure. There's an ioctl but it seems to give different results
than the power_on sysfs node.




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Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-20 Thread Alexander Mueller

Helge Hafting schrieb:
 Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
 On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:46:55 +0100, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name  
 wrote:

 Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*?

 This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in
 the world and of course this means problems.
 169.254.0.0/16 is probably more appropriate because this range is assigned  
 to link-local addresses.
 
 Sure. And if we go that way, why not use the proper way of setting a
 link-local address?
 * Pick a random address
 * check that it is free (arp, ping,...)
 * take it.
 
 That has a good chance of working, even for those who
 routinely connect two phones to the same pc at the same time.
 
 Helge Hafting
This would make it way harder to communicate with the freerunner.
For now you know you can reach it at 192.168.0.202 and most of the 
documentations builds on this. So figuring out the ip address FR has 
chosen is way harder, especially for newbies.

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Re: Graphical text editor ?

2008-12-20 Thread kimaidou

Hi Sam

Thanks for your reply. I am currently using SHR, and a opkg update + opkg
install gvim did not work. Where can I find the gvim package please ?


2008/12/19 Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net

 2008/12/19 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com

 I am using my freerunner with a keyboard connected via USB. When I want to
 create/modify a text document, I use nano or vi.
 It works great (fast, low cpu-usage) but It lacks some funcionnalities I
 am looking for :
 * Wrap text at the end of line
 * Line number show
 * graphical way of selecting files to open.

 I would like to know if someone knew a bit about that ?


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Re: Newer Navit [was: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR]

2008-12-20 Thread Davide Scaini

I have compiled it from svn... nice but:
- as Dan i can't see naything about maps... i configured the xml file to
open a bin file from osm but navit says Failed to load 'path/myfile.bin' 
- i can't use gps data even if navit says Connected to gpsd fd=4 ...etc
etc
any hints?
thanks
d

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 4:33 PM, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote:



  -Message d'origine-
  De : Dan Staley [mailto:dlst...@uky.edu]
  Envoyé : lundi 15 décembre 2008 16:05
  À : KaZeR
  Cc : openmoko community
  Objet : Re: Newer Navit [was: geocaching with tangoGPS on FR]
 
  I downloaded the tar and it definitely looks ALOT nicer and
  feels more stable than the version I tried out before!  Great job!
 
  One question though, I tried to follow the wiki to get a new
  map loaded, I downloaded the planet.bin file and moved it to
  the FR, and made a xml file for it (looks just like the one
  included for the test map, but to planet.bin)...but whenever
  I load up navit, I just get a brown screen where the map
  should be.  Is there something else that is required?
 

 If you used navit before, maybe it remembers your last viewing coordinates
 (until it gets a fix).
 Check if you have ~/.navit/center.txt, if so you can remove it. Do you have
 a gps signal?


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Re: Graphical text editor ?

2008-12-20 Thread Sam Kuper

2008/12/20 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com:
 Thanks for your reply. I am currently using SHR, and a opkg update + opkg
 install gvim did not work. Where can I find the gvim package please ?

Hmm, I don't have a Freerunner myself (yet), but I do use Debian on
other machines. It's definitely possible to get gvim in Debian.[1]

I guess if you want to use it in a distro that doesn't have a package
for it, it looks like you'd have to do some manual config/installation
that I haven't tried, so perhaps other people would be better placed
to offer advice on that front.[2]

[1]http://packages.debian.org/etch/gvim
[2]http://www.vim.org/htmldoc/gui_x11.html

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Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-20 Thread William Kenworthy

On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 13:15 +0100, Alexander Mueller wrote:
 Helge Hafting schrieb:
  Alexey Feldgendler wrote:
  On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:46:55 +0100, Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name  
  wrote:
 
  Why on earth would you choose 192.168.0.*?
 
  This is probably the most common IP address on an internal network in
  the world and of course this means problems.
  169.254.0.0/16 is probably more appropriate because this range is assigned 
   
  to link-local addresses.
  
  Sure. And if we go that way, why not use the proper way of setting a
  link-local address?
  * Pick a random address
  * check that it is free (arp, ping,...)
  * take it.
  
  That has a good chance of working, even for those who
  routinely connect two phones to the same pc at the same time.
  
  Helge Hafting
 This would make it way harder to communicate with the freerunner.
 For now you know you can reach it at 192.168.0.202 and most of the 
 documentations builds on this. So figuring out the ip address FR has 
 chosen is way harder, especially for newbies.
 
 Alex Mueller

Not if its handled right.  I am not feeling generous to the bad word
deleted who chose this address - just flashed 2008.12.  Everytime I
flash the freerunner, I have to modify things to get it to behave nicely
with my network.

Still, its not just the freerunner, but big companies like netgear who
also choose inappropriate defaults ;(

BillK




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Re: Graphical text editor ?

2008-12-20 Thread Davide Scaini

try leafpad... i guess it may be perfect...
d

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net wrote:

 2008/12/20 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com:
  Thanks for your reply. I am currently using SHR, and a opkg update + opkg
  install gvim did not work. Where can I find the gvim package please ?

 Hmm, I don't have a Freerunner myself (yet), but I do use Debian on
 other machines. It's definitely possible to get gvim in Debian.[1]

 I guess if you want to use it in a distro that doesn't have a package
 for it, it looks like you'd have to do some manual config/installation
 that I haven't tried, so perhaps other people would be better placed
 to offer advice on that front.[2]

 [1]http://packages.debian.org/etch/gvim
 [2]http://www.vim.org/htmldoc/gui_x11.html

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Re: Graphical text editor ?

2008-12-20 Thread rakshat hooja

have not tried this (deforaos-editor) but it may work
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Re: Graphical text editor ?

2008-12-20 Thread rakshat hooja

sorry ipk link

http://www.opkg.org/packages/deforaos-editor_0.1.0_armv4t.ipk

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Re: [Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

2008-12-20 Thread Paul Fertser

Hi,

Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes:
 That's not good.
 Is there another way to get the wlan status with help of a console
 command like dbus or anything else?

 I am not sure. There's an ioctl but it seems to give different results
 than the power_on sysfs node.

It was recently clarified on kernel ml that the power_on wlan node
actually applies reset to the chip. Therefore nobody should really use
it. Either the magic ioctl or binding/unbinding the driver works.

echo s3c2440-sdi  /sys/bus/platform/devices/s3c2440-sdi/driver/unbind

and

echo s3c2440-sdi  /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/bind

can be used for the time being.

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Re: Re: debian on freerunner

Hello Andy and Michael,

Thank you for your answers.

No I did not use Qi=true!!!
But now I did and debian is now up and running from SD!

and now there is a new question:

I do get an X screen with icons on the top level but there is no Zhone 
(just a grey screen no desktop) how can I get one.

thank and greetings,

Jos


Michael wrote:
 Hi,

 Am Fr, den 19.12.08 um 01:53 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut:
   
 I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script:
 wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh
 
 with 'QI=true QI_VERBOSE_BOOT=true ./install.sh all' ?

   
 on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot
 in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin
 
 this files should be in /boot/boot.

   
 did this all by following the debian wikki
 
 ...
 debian-gta02:~# cd /boot 
 debian-gta02:/boot# mkdir boot 
 debian-gta02:/boot# ln -s ../uImage.bin boot/uImage-GTA02.bin 
 debian-gta02:/boot# echo root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 loglevel=8 
 boot/append-GTA02
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Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-20 Thread Alexey Feldgendler

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 13:26:01 +0100, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au  
wrote:

 169.254.0.0/16 is probably more appropriate because this range is  
 assigned to link-local addresses.

 Sure. And if we go that way, why not use the proper way of setting a
 link-local address?
 * Pick a random address
 * check that it is free (arp, ping,...)
 * take it.

That would be reinventing some wheels. See below for standardized  
solutions.

 That has a good chance of working, even for those who
 routinely connect two phones to the same pc at the same time.

 This would make it way harder to communicate with the freerunner.
 For now you know you can reach it at 192.168.0.202 and most of the
 documentations builds on this. So figuring out the ip address FR has
 chosen is way harder, especially for newbies.

 Not if its handled right.

One possible way to handle it right would be:

1. Try DHCP first. If a DHCP server gives us an address, use it and skip  
to step 3.
2. Grab a link-local IP address via IPv4LL (RFC 3927). This is even  
supported by default by both Windows = 98 and MacOS = 8, as well as in  
many Linux distributions, so it's as simple as plugging the device in.
3. If we have a DNS address from step 1, use it and skip to step 5.
4. Try discovering a DNS server using DNS-SD and use one if discovered.
5. Advertise through mDNS a user-configurable name defaulting to something  
like openmoko.local.
6. Advertise relevant services through mDNS, such as ssh, sftp-ssh,  
clipboard (would be nice, eh?), sip/h323 (why not?).
7. If we have a router address from step 1, skip to step 9.
8. Try some router discovery protocol (UPnP, SSDP?).

Most of this is fulfilled by using avahi http://avahi.org, so it seems  
like a good choice. From a user's point of view, the device will never  
cause routing problems and always be accessible at a fixed host name, even  
without a domain name server.

Alternatively, the phone itself can run a DHCP server after step 1 and  
assign an IP address to the peer, as well as run a DNS server. That way,  
plugging the phone with GPRS enabled into a Windows machine will  
automatically provide it with Internet connectivity.


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Re: [Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

2008-12-20 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors

Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com writes:
 echo s3c2440-sdi  /sys/bus/platform/devices/s3c2440-sdi/driver/unbind

Aha, so this should reduce power consumption?

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om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-20 Thread Ilja O.

Hello.

I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0 version of
om-manager.

Om-manager is host computer-based Freerunner controlling utility. Currently
it's able to flash Freeruner smartphone (dfu-util required), get logs,
backup filesystem parts (to archive file on host computer) also it
implements simple opkg package manager and remote control via VNC (x11vnc
package on phone is required). All functionality (except Flashing) is
implemented trough SSH connection and does not require any extra programs
installed on phone itself (except ones that are needed to perform specefied
tasks, e.g. vnc server or opkg utility). Whole application is pure Python.


Project home: http://code.google.com/p/om-manager/

Please, if somebody is willing to check it -- do it. I would be really happy
to see any feedback from any other people -- about usability, functionality
or coding style.

It took me quite a while to do it, but have a mercy -- I'm doing it alone.

I've personally used it on Windows, Linux and OSX. So I guess they can be
defined as officially supported operating systems.

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Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-20 Thread François TOURDE

Le 14230ième jour après Epoch,
Lothar Behrens écrivait:

 Am 17.12.2008 um 13:16 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:

 Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de writes:
 Is there a way to do this ?

 while true; do
  if [ `capacity` -lt 10 ]; then
  alert
  fi
  sleep 120
 done


 this is a starting point :-)

I've a small script that works as a daemon, checking interval depends
on the charge (described on a file), play sounds (except when
charging) depending on the current charge.

There is no doc, no install proc, it's not packaged, but it can be
done easily...

The config file (default values in the script) contains:

  # Les différents niveaux
  THRESHOLDS=100:20:1200: 20:10:600:low 10:5:150:critical 5:0:30:emergency

Each group of check parms is max:min:delay:sound

If level is between (_max_,_min_), the aplay _sound_.wav and wait _delay_
for next check.

Hope it helps.


#!/bin/sh
#
# Start or stop the bat alarm Daemon.
#
# Written by Francois TOURDE fr...@tourde.org
#


[ -f /etc/default/batalarm ]  . /etc/default/batalarm

case $1 in
start)
echo -n Starting batalarm daemon: 
start-stop-daemon -S -p /var/run/batalarm.pid -m -x /usr/bin/batalarm 
if [ $? = 0 ]; then
echo batalarm.
else
echo (failed.)
fi
;;
stop)
echo -n Stopping batalarm daemon: 
start-stop-daemon -K -p /var/run/batalarm.pid 
echo batalarm.
;;
restart|force-reload)
$0 stop
$0 start
exit
;;
*)
echo Usage: /etc/init.d/batalarm {start|stop|restart|force-reload}
exit 1
;;
esac

exit 0
#!/bin/sh
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
# Batalarm - An application to check bat
#
# Version 0.1
#
# Authors: Francois TOURDE fr...@tourde.org
#
# Copyright (c) 2008 François TOURDE
#
# batalarm is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
# under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the
# Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of the License, or (at your
# option) any later version.
#
# batalarm is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
# WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU
# General Public License for more details.
#
# TODO
#
# Change List
#
# 2008-11-17: First release

# First, the default values:
BAT_CAPACITY=/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/capacity
BAT_PLUGGED=/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/online
BAT_ALERT=/usr/share/batalarm/sounds/
SLEEP_INIT=600
#
# Les différents niveaux
THRESHOLDS=100:20:1200: 20:10:600:low 10:5:150:critical 5:0:30:emergency
[ -f /etc/default/batalarm ]  . /etc/default/batalarm

while true
do
  v=$(cat $BAT_CAPACITY)
  for t in $THRESHOLDS
  do
t=$(echo $t|sed -e 's/:/ /g')
max=$(echo $t|awk '{print $1}')
min=$(echo $t|awk '{print $2}')
next=$(echo $t|awk '{print $3}')
file=$(echo $t|awk '{print $4}')

if [ $v -le $max -a $v -gt $min ]
then
  SLEEP_VAL=$next
  ALERT_FILE=$file
  break;
fi
  done

  [ ! -z $ALERT_FILE ]  [ $(cat $BAT_PLUGGED) != 1 ]  aplay ${BAT_ALERT}${ALERT_FILE}.wav
  sleep $SLEEP_VAL
done

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Re: Default IP Address on All Distributions

2008-12-20 Thread François TOURDE

Le 14231ième jour après Epoch,
Marcel écrivait:

  Nearly every network I know uses 192.168.1.*, so the default is perfectly
  fine... Although something like 192.168.64.* could be statistically more
  failsafe.

 Actually in that case I would avoid all powers of two. A higher prime
 number, like 97, might be a good choice...

 I just typed some random numbers  1 to get to the safer side... :)

Did you mean hacker's random values are always powers of 2 ;)

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ZOMG! new version (in case somebody cares)

fixed one annoying bug
speeded up the whole thing a little bit (overall performance should now 
be *slightly* better)
...so no feaures added, but since i am currently sick and therefore not 
going to work for a few days i managed to find some time to clean up the 
code a little (the project is still work in progress)

for dl/update instructions please refer to the wki page:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ZOMG!#Update_20.2F12.2F2008

tested on om2008.testing and it works flawlessly

i'm considering a rewrite from opkg-frontend to jni using libopkg... if 
soemone can point me to a decent libopkg api documentation...


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Re: New 2008.12 Release

2008-12-20 Thread swap38

Antony King a écrit :
 I've copied those files to our UK mirror here:

 http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Mirrors

 Openmoko haven't supplied MD5s for the images; here's what I make them:

 4ade0b3d3210ec9e9bf34bc694f0dd47  gta01bv4-lowlevel.bin
 e9cc57e863b63abfd593f97b19801b34  gta01bv4-u-boot.bin
 1f200d7123a26e16ff0415f59695dfe3  gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin
 7f2f26e53fc787450f84286d9f0726cf  gta02v5-lowlevel.bin
 a1ba1806ced7b6b7791802d654514ce8  Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
 48dc258d9e342fc8b2453457b7179907  Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz
 6b1e33f3e83034613d33a1a3583bdac4  Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin

 If anyone from OM or elsewhere sees any different to those, please let us 
 know !

 Antony.
   

Same md5 for me (I didn't downloaded the rest) :

1f200d7123a26e16ff0415f59695dfe3 gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin
6b1e33f3e83034613d33a1a3583bdac4 Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin
a1ba1806ced7b6b7791802d654514ce8 Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2

Maybe you can you put that somewhere on the wiki ?

Johann.

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Re: Your favorite ringtones? (especially .sid?)

Tobias Diedrich schrieb:
 e...@ericanddebbie.com wrote:
   
 Hi,
 I'm looking for a new ringtone (I like the arkanoid theme, but I need  
 a change).  If you have one you like, could you let me (us) know?

 Tobias mentions a place to find .sids in his email below -- I just  
 couldn't go through all of them.
 

 I'm using
 http://www.8bitpeoples.com/mp3/get/432/8bp069-01-she-nebula.mp3
 from 8bitpeoples album 069.
   
I am using the metal gear solid codec ringone (ask google where to get 
it, i don't remember)

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Re: [Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

2008-12-20 Thread Paul Fertser

Hi,

Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes:
 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com writes:
 echo s3c2440-sdi  /sys/bus/platform/devices/s3c2440-sdi/driver/unbind

 Aha, so this should reduce power consumption?

As far as i understand it is as effective as sending the magic ioctl
and equally effective to suspending the whole device.

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starting kde on debian

Hello,

Since zhone does not appear on my FR with debian I have installed kde.
question now is how do I change X to start up kde instead of zhone.

Thanks,

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Re: starting kde on debian

2008-12-20 Thread Evgeny

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:27 PM, Jos vd Snepscheut j...@snepscheut.nl wrote:
 Hello,

 Since zhone does not appear on my FR with debian I have installed kde.
 question now is how do I change X to start up kde instead of zhone.
Hi.
IMHO KDE is little beet heavy for FR.
to edit your ~/.xsession file.
But first try read trough http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner
maybe it'll help


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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-20 Thread Yorick Moko

I installed python 3.0 on windows xp (sp3) from
http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.0/python-3.0.msi
but when i try to run it I get

F:\temp\dist\om-manager\apprun.py
  File F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py, line 78
print usage
  ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

I'm probably doing something wrong.

y

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Ilja O. vrgh...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.

 I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0 version of
 om-manager.

 Om-manager is host computer-based Freerunner controlling utility. Currently
 it's able to flash Freeruner smartphone (dfu-util required), get logs,
 backup filesystem parts (to archive file on host computer) also it
 implements simple opkg package manager and remote control via VNC (x11vnc
 package on phone is required). All functionality (except Flashing) is
 implemented trough SSH connection and does not require any extra programs
 installed on phone itself (except ones that are needed to perform specefied
 tasks, e.g. vnc server or opkg utility). Whole application is pure Python.


 Project home: http://code.google.com/p/om-manager/

 Please, if somebody is willing to check it -- do it. I would be really happy
 to see any feedback from any other people -- about usability, functionality
 or coding style.

 It took me quite a while to do it, but have a mercy -- I'm doing it alone.

 I've personally used it on Windows, Linux and OSX. So I guess they can be
 defined as officially supported operating systems.

 Thank you.

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[debian/fso] Re: starting kde on debian

please, prefix _very_ posting with name of the ditribution, you are using  
-- make it people easy to help you!
additionally, the best way to get support for deb...@fr would be the  
smartphones-lists instead.


 Since zhone does not appear on my FR with debian I have installed kde.
 question now is how do I change X to start up kde instead of zhone.

installing kde, just because zhone does not start is ... strange.
for a device so limited kde is rather an overkill -- and it will certainly  
not help you, to explore the phone facilities!

if zhone does not start, the first thing is, to log in via ssh and start  
zhone manually doing
DISPLAY=:0 zhone
this should give some usefull output you could post here.
most certainly you are bitten by a bug that seems not yet to be properly  
addressed: cython and python-evas of debian/sid does not play well  
together, the packages are available either in any debian repos
http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/cython/cython_0.9.6.13.1-1_all.deb
and
http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24
respectively (just be carefully they don't get overwritten by any update  
or reinstall those packages afterwards until the bug is fixed).

next thing: please read the debian freerunner wiki and the arcihves  
thoroughly, there are several postings or articles explaining what to do  
when installing a real desktop manager like xfce and that you should use  
nodm as [k|x|g]dm replacement.

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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-20 Thread Al Johnson

You probably need Python 2.x as 3.0 has some major changes which cause code 
written for 2.x to fail. IIRC the print syntax is one of those changes. 
Follow the link if you want to see the details.

http://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html

On Saturday 20 December 2008, Yorick Moko wrote:
 I installed python 3.0 on windows xp (sp3) from
 http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.0/python-3.0.msi
 but when i try to run it I get

 F:\temp\dist\om-manager\apprun.py
   File F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py, line 78
 print usage
   ^
 SyntaxError: invalid syntax

 I'm probably doing something wrong.

 y

 On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Ilja O. vrgh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello.
 
  I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0 version
  of om-manager.
 
  Om-manager is host computer-based Freerunner controlling utility.
  Currently it's able to flash Freeruner smartphone (dfu-util required),
  get logs, backup filesystem parts (to archive file on host computer) also
  it implements simple opkg package manager and remote control via VNC
  (x11vnc package on phone is required). All functionality (except
  Flashing) is implemented trough SSH connection and does not require any
  extra programs installed on phone itself (except ones that are needed to
  perform specefied tasks, e.g. vnc server or opkg utility). Whole
  application is pure Python.
 
 
  Project home: http://code.google.com/p/om-manager/
 
  Please, if somebody is willing to check it -- do it. I would be really
  happy to see any feedback from any other people -- about usability,
  functionality or coding style.
 
  It took me quite a while to do it, but have a mercy -- I'm doing it
  alone.
 
  I've personally used it on Windows, Linux and OSX. So I guess they can be
  defined as officially supported operating systems.
 
  Thank you.
 
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how to turn on screen blanking on 2008.12

2008-12-20 Thread Peter Abplanalp

i can't use suspend due to wsod but 2008.12 doesn't seem to blank the
screen by default.  is there any way for me to turn this on?  ideally,
i'd like to have suspend turned off and have the screen blank after
about a minute or so.

thanks,

-peter

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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-20 Thread Yorick Moko

downloaded the 2.6.1 and now i get:

F:\temp\dist\om-manager\apprun.py
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py, line 7, in module
from app import logger, gui
ImportError: No module named app

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Al Johnson
openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote:
 You probably need Python 2.x as 3.0 has some major changes which cause code
 written for 2.x to fail. IIRC the print syntax is one of those changes.
 Follow the link if you want to see the details.

 http://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html

 On Saturday 20 December 2008, Yorick Moko wrote:
 I installed python 3.0 on windows xp (sp3) from
 http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.0/python-3.0.msi
 but when i try to run it I get

 F:\temp\dist\om-manager\apprun.py
   File F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py, line 78
 print usage
   ^
 SyntaxError: invalid syntax

 I'm probably doing something wrong.

 y

 On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Ilja O. vrgh...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello.
 
  I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0 version
  of om-manager.
 
  Om-manager is host computer-based Freerunner controlling utility.
  Currently it's able to flash Freeruner smartphone (dfu-util required),
  get logs, backup filesystem parts (to archive file on host computer) also
  it implements simple opkg package manager and remote control via VNC
  (x11vnc package on phone is required). All functionality (except
  Flashing) is implemented trough SSH connection and does not require any
  extra programs installed on phone itself (except ones that are needed to
  perform specefied tasks, e.g. vnc server or opkg utility). Whole
  application is pure Python.
 
 
  Project home: http://code.google.com/p/om-manager/
 
  Please, if somebody is willing to check it -- do it. I would be really
  happy to see any feedback from any other people -- about usability,
  functionality or coding style.
 
  It took me quite a while to do it, but have a mercy -- I'm doing it
  alone.
 
  I've personally used it on Windows, Linux and OSX. So I guess they can be
  defined as officially supported operating systems.
 
  Thank you.
 
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Re: how to turn on screen blanking on 2008.12

2008-12-20 Thread Will Siddall

If you would rather switch to the illume theme (you would have to
update from testing), this will give you access to the illume 'wrench'
that can allow you to set the time after which the screen blanks and
then another time (or none) to have it go into suspend.

If you don't want to use testing, you can just install 'illume-config'
which will give you the wrench

The 'wrench' is found in the top shelf when you drop it down.  It'll
be in the top-left corner.


On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Peter Abplanalp
pta-openm...@psaconsultants.com wrote:
 i can't use suspend due to wsod but 2008.12 doesn't seem to blank the
 screen by default.  is there any way for me to turn this on?  ideally,
 i'd like to have suspend turned off and have the screen blank after
 about a minute or so.

 thanks,

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Question about a file I am not aware

2008-12-20 Thread Lothar Behrens


Hi,

I have got my new 16 GB SD card after waiting sometime and reading  
other success stories :-)


Now I like to backup the data from my old SD card, but I don't know  
for what this file is for:


/media/card/qtopia_db.sqlite

What application sits on it to stop before making an backup, because  
it seems to be a sqlite database :-)


Thanks

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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

Yorick Moko schrieb:
 downloaded the 2.6.1 and now i get:

 F:\temp\dist\om-manager\apprun.py
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py, line 7, in module
 from app import logger, gui
 ImportError: No module named app

 On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Al Johnson
 openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote:
   
 You probably need Python 2.x as 3.0 has some major changes which cause code
 written for 2.x to fail. IIRC the print syntax is one of those changes.
 Follow the link if you want to see the details.

 http://docs.python.org/3.0/whatsnew/3.0.html

 On Saturday 20 December 2008, Yorick Moko wrote:
 
 I installed python 3.0 on windows xp (sp3) from
 http://www.python.org/ftp/python/3.0/python-3.0.msi
 but when i try to run it I get

 F:\temp\dist\om-manager\apprun.py
   File F:\temp\dist\om-manager\app\run.py, line 78
 print usage
   ^
 SyntaxError: invalid syntax

 I'm probably doing something wrong.

 y

 On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Ilja O. vrgh...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 Hello.

 I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed to push out 0.1.0 version
 of om-manager.

 Om-manager is host computer-based Freerunner controlling utility.
 Currently it's able to flash Freeruner smartphone (dfu-util required),
 get logs, backup filesystem parts (to archive file on host computer) also
 it implements simple opkg package manager and remote control via VNC
 (x11vnc package on phone is required). All functionality (except
 Flashing) is implemented trough SSH connection and does not require any
 extra programs installed on phone itself (except ones that are needed to
 perform specefied tasks, e.g. vnc server or opkg utility). Whole
 application is pure Python.


 Project home: http://code.google.com/p/om-manager/

 Please, if somebody is willing to check it -- do it. I would be really
 happy to see any feedback from any other people -- about usability,
 functionality or coding style.

 It took me quite a while to do it, but have a mercy -- I'm doing it
 alone.

 I've personally used it on Windows, Linux and OSX. So I guess they can be
 defined as officially supported operating systems.

 Thank you.

 
Not that i think it has much to do with your error, but you do know how 
windows handles ssh?
(the answer is: not at all, because windows doesn't know ssh or anything 
alse that is absolutely fundemantal regarding networking, so you have to 
use puTTY, although, the program should at least start..)
i goint to try it out tomorrow under vista and under debian

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Re: Question about a file I am not aware

Lothar Behrens schrieb:
 Hi,

 I have got my new 16 GB SD card after waiting sometime and reading 
 other success stories :-)

 Now I like to backup the data from my old SD card, but I don't know 
 for what this file is for:

 /media/card/qtopia_db.sqlite

 What application sits on it to stop before making an backup, because 
 it seems to be a sqlite database :-)

 Thanks

 Lothar

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it is what it says: a qtopia database (contacts, qtopia apps, 
messages)... although on the sd card.. probably decuments, apps... i am 
quite sure you can delete that, since the contacts are storen on flash 
(you do have installed you os on flash, right?!)

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[FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

2008-12-20 Thread Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson

Hi

   I'm running a home-built installation of fso-testing-image on my 
Freerunner (GTA02v5). I update ($ make update) my installation atleast 
twice a week. For some time I haven't seen the program icons in Illume. 
I've tried to remove the .e/-directory without success. I've even 
reflashed the phone with both new kernel-images and *rootfs*.jffs-images.

   Zhone starts allright and I can switch to the other desktops but I 
never see the icons I once saw. Enlightenment says it sees '17 files' 
when starting but yet, no icons.

   Does anyone know a) why, b) how to fix it.

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Re: [FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

2008-12-20 Thread Joel Newkirk

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:06:26 +0100, Ingvaldur Sigurjonsson i...@telia.com
wrote:
 Hi
 
I'm running a home-built installation of fso-testing-image on my
 Freerunner (GTA02v5). I update ($ make update) my installation atleast
 twice a week. For some time I haven't seen the program icons in Illume.
 I've tried to remove the .e/-directory without success. I've even
 reflashed the phone with both new kernel-images and *rootfs*.jffs-images.
 
Zhone starts allright and I can switch to the other desktops but I
 never see the icons I once saw. Enlightenment says it sees '17 files'
 when starting but yet, no icons.
 
Does anyone know a) why, b) how to fix it.
 
 --
 ex animo
 - Ingi

Just a guess based on a known 'problem': Check the .desktop files in
/usr/share/applications.  Take a look at the categories entries in the
.desktop files, and if you see application, try changing it to
applications.

j

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Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-20 Thread Lech Karol Pawłaszek

Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster wrote:
[...]
 Not that i think it has much to do with your error, but you do know how 
 windows handles ssh?
 (the answer is: not at all, because windows doesn't know ssh or anything 
 alse that is absolutely fundemantal regarding networking, so you have to 
 use puTTY, although, the program should at least start..)
 i goint to try it out tomorrow under vista and under debian

The program uses paramiko library so one doesn't need ssh client binary.

om-manager is nice. I was about to write something similar - like a
host computer utility in python (but using Tkinter instead of wx)
which connects to Freerunner and executes commands however mine was
intended to mimic Debian's reportbug utility. Right now we have so many
distributions, bootloaders and kernels that sometimes it's hard to
reproduce the environment. I'm thinking about automation of gathering
informations about a bug process. `uname -a`, `opkg list_installed` `cat
/sys/magic/something`. If you don't mind Ilja I'll try to use your
om-manager as a base for my work.

As I see om-manager is plugins-capable so I hope all I want to achieve
will be only a plugin for your program.

;-) Well. That's just a plan for Christmas holidays...

Kind regards,

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Apple OS X 10.5.6 crashes when FR connected....

2008-12-20 Thread error


I just upgraded to OS X 10.5.6 and now when I connect my FR my system panics. 
Anyone seeing the same issue?  Below is the kernel panic report.

Tried to upgrade to the latest AJZaurus driver but it didn't help.
---

Sat Dec 20 14:55:40 2008
panic(cpu 1 caller 0x0039CC8B): m_free: freeing an already freed
mbuf@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-1228.9.59/bsd/kern/uipc_mbuf.c:3575
Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address (4 potential args on stack)
0x2eb1fdf8 : 0x12b4f3 (0x45b13c 0x2eb1fe2c 0x1335e4 0x0) 
0x2eb1fe48 : 0x39cc8b (0x493ef0 0xf4240 0x2eb1fe68 0x5da) 
0x2eb1fec8 : 0x34912703 (0x30733400 0x30733400 0x0 0x636f900) 
0x2eb1fee8 : 0x5e5678 (0x5da 0x30733400 0x0 0x3ece2f) 
0x2eb1ff18 : 0x5e550c (0x636d000 0x63662f0 0x2eb1ff3c 0x6366797) 
0x2eb1ff58 : 0x5e561a (0x636d000 0x23ac6252 0x2eb1ff78 0x1a336f) 
0x2eb1ff78 : 0x13eed2 (0x636d000 0x0 0x0 0x0) 
0x2eb1ffc8 : 0x1a017c (0x0 0x0 0x1a30b5 0x4d48a60) 
Backtrace terminated-invalid frame pointer 0
  Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
 net.lucid-cake.driver.AJZaurusUSB(0.5.5)@0x34911000-0x3491afff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.1)@0x5d6000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(3.2.7)@0x596000
 com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily(1.6.1)@0x5d6000-0x5ebfff

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Mac OS version:
9G55

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.6.0: Mon Nov 24 17:37:00 PST 2008;
root:xnu-1228.9.59~1/RELEASE_I386
System model name: MacBookPro3,1 (Mac-F4238BC8)

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Re: Apple OS X 10.5.6 crashes when FR connected....

2008-12-20 Thread Boštjan Jerko


On 20.12.2008, at 22:20, error wrote:


 I just upgraded to OS X 10.5.6 and now when I connect my FR my  
 system panics.
 Anyone seeing the same issue?  Below is the kernel panic report.

 Tried to upgrade to the latest AJZaurus driver but it didn't help.
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It works on my Macbook (the same OSX).

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Re: Abwesenheitsnotiz community Digest, Vol 110, Issue 70 erfolgreich auf Virenfreiheit geprueft

2008-12-20 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer

Please unsubscribe this guy.

Oguz, if you are on a mailing list, you better change your subscription 
options before going on vacation.

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Re: [FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

2008-12-20 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer

This always happens when we're starting to stabilize for a release. Last time 
it was something with a missing mimetypes postinst. Raster, any idea what it 
can be this time?

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Show/hide wifi icon in OM2008.12

2008-12-20 Thread Giorgio Marci

How can i show/hide the icon in the bottom bar on OM2008.12? i want to
control this feature from a python app, is it possible?

How dows it work? when i connect to an AP the icon magically appear but
if i disconnect (using iwconfig) it remain in the bar.

thanks

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Re: [debian/fso] Re: starting kde on debian

Arne,

thanks for replying!

can you help me a little bit more please:
I have downloaded the python-evas from http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24
and I have been searching and reading about .deb and how to install them.
But I can't make out how to do it

So please can you teach me or direct me to a howto or so?

Hope to hear (and learn) from you,

greetings

Jos.


arne anka wrote:
 div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixedplease, 
 prefix _very_ posting with name of the ditribution, you are using -- 
 make it people easy to help you!
 additionally, the best way to get support for deb...@fr would be the 
 smartphones-lists instead.


 Since zhone does not appear on my FR with debian I have installed kde.
 question now is how do I change X to start up kde instead of zhone.

 installing kde, just because zhone does not start is ... strange.
 for a device so limited kde is rather an overkill -- and it will 
 certainly not help you, to explore the phone facilities!

 if zhone does not start, the first thing is, to log in via ssh and 
 start zhone manually doing
 DISPLAY=:0 zhone
 this should give some usefull output you could post here.
 most certainly you are bitten by a bug that seems not yet to be 
 properly addressed: cython and python-evas of debian/sid does not play 
 well together, the packages are available either in any debian repos
 http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/cython/cython_0.9.6.13.1-1_all.deb
  

 and
 http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24
 respectively (just be carefully they don't get overwritten by any 
 update or reinstall those packages afterwards until the bug is fixed).

 next thing: please read the debian freerunner wiki and the arcihves 
 thoroughly, there are several postings or articles explaining what to 
 do when installing a real desktop manager like xfce and that you 
 should use nodm as [k|x|g]dm replacement.


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Re: [FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

2008-12-20 Thread Petr Vanek


   r...@om-gta02:~# cat ./.e/e/appshadow/.desktop
   [Desktop Entry]
   Name=Calculator
   Name[fr]=Calculatrice
   Name[it]=Calcolatrice
   Name[ru]=Калькулятор
   Name[sv]=Miniräknare
   Comment=Perform simple calculations
   Encoding=UTF-8
   Version=1.0
   Type=Application
   Exec=openmoko-calculator
   Icon=openmoko-calculator
   Terminal=false
   Categories=GTK;Applications;Office
   SingleInstance=true
   StartupNotify=true
   Categories=Office;


i have seen this on SHR with navit update: when an application had all
these multilingual lines such a Name[fr]=Calculatrice, the icon would
not be shown, but as soon as you edit it and remove those lines at
least in SHR this helped...

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Re: [OM 2008.12] Show/hide wifi icon in OM2008.12

2008-12-20 Thread Marcel

Am Saturday 20 December 2008 23:06:21 schrieb Giorgio Marci:
 How can i show/hide the icon in the bottom bar on OM2008.12? i want to
 control this feature from a python app, is it possible?

 How dows it work? when i connect to an AP the icon magically appear but
 if i disconnect (using iwconfig) it remain in the bar.

 thanks

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Re: Question about a file I am not aware

Lothar Behrens schrieb:
 Yes, I have it installed on flash and not on SD card.

 But why is it there ?

 Is it a copy, backup ?

 Lothar

 Am 20.12.2008 um 21:06 schrieb Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster:

 Lothar Behrens schrieb:
 Hi,

 I have got my new 16 GB SD card after waiting sometime and reading
 other success stories :-)

 Now I like to backup the data from my old SD card, but I don't know
 for what this file is for:

 /media/card/qtopia_db.sqlite

 What application sits on it to stop before making an backup, because
 it seems to be a sqlite database :-)

 Thanks

 Lothar

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 it is what it says: a qtopia database (contacts, qtopia apps,
 messages)... although on the sd card.. probably decuments, apps... i am
 quite sure you can delete that, since the contacts are storen on flash
 (you do have installed you os on flash, right?!)
afaik it is autmatically created to index files that my be useful to 
qtopia, you contacts are stored in the flash memory of you phone, not on 
sdcard (see wiki: Pre-Flash Backup i don't remember the path, but it 
is sth like /home/root/Documents and /home/root/Applications)


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Re: [OM 2008.12] Show/hide wifi icon in OM2008.12

2008-12-20 Thread Giorgio Marci

 Sorry :)

Any suggestion?

  - Original Message -
  From: Marcel
  To: List for Openmoko community discussion
  Subject: Re: [OM 2008.12] Show/hide wifi icon in OM2008.12
  Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:20:33 +0100

  Am Saturday 20 December 2008 23:06:21 schrieb Giorgio Marci:
   How can i show/hide the icon in the bottom bar on OM2008.12? i want
  to
   control this feature from a python app, is it possible?

   How dows it work? when i connect to an AP the icon magically appear
  but
   if i disconnect (using iwconfig) it remain in the bar.

   thanks

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Re: [FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

2008-12-20 Thread The Rasterman

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:01:51 +0100 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
mic...@openmoko.org babbled:

 This always happens when we're starting to stabilize for a release. Last time 
 it was something with a missing mimetypes postinst. Raster, any idea what it 
 can be this time?

icons display for me on my illume images, on desktop etc. etc. - so i'm on the
works for me bandwagon (thus not answering these as i have no 'why' as i
never saw it break). svnr37919 is the last svnr i built with OE

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Re: [FSO/Illume] Program icons not showing up

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) schrieb:
 On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:01:51 +0100 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
 mic...@openmoko.org babbled:

   
 This always happens when we're starting to stabilize for a release. Last 
 time 
 it was something with a missing mimetypes postinst. Raster, any idea what it 
 can be this time?
 

 icons display for me on my illume images, on desktop etc. etc. - so i'm on the
 works for me bandwagon (thus not answering these as i have no 'why' as i
 never saw it break). svnr37919 is the last svnr i built with OE

   
Petr pointed it out quite good. The list time i tried SHR, the icons 
didn't show up.
I found out that this particular e configuration/version/wahtever was 
very picky, so i had to handcraft all .desktop files i needed.
i made them with touch and echo commands and it finally worked.
i cant give you any detailed infos, because it was quite some time ago.
all i can tell you is that Petr Vanek's hint is a good one and you 
should play around a little in that direction.

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Re: how to turn on screen blanking on 2008.12

2008-12-20 Thread Peter Abplanalp

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Will Siddall will.sidd...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you would rather switch to the illume theme (you would have to
 update from testing), this will give you access to the illume 'wrench'
 that can allow you to set the time after which the screen blanks and
 then another time (or none) to have it go into suspend.

i'm not sure how to change the opkg config to point to testing.

 If you don't want to use testing, you can just install 'illume-config'
 which will give you the wrench

whenever i try to install illume-config, opkg tells me that
illume-theme-asu is installed and up to date:

r...@om-gta02:~# opkg install illume-config
Package illume-theme-asu (0.0+svnr4783-r7.04) installed in root is up to date.

it also looks like the illume theme is already installed, opkg
list_installed says:

illume-theme-illume - 0.0+svnr36882-r1.01 -

any help on either getting the wrench or activating the illume theme?

thanks,

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Re: [debian/fso] Re: starting kde on debian

 can you help me a little bit more please:
 I have downloaded the python-evas from http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24
 and I have been searching and reading about .deb and how to install them.
 But I can't make out how to do it

oh, just the usual debian way.

for starters, the output of
DISPLAY=:0 zhone
would have been nice, to confirm it is really the issue i suspect.
if so the next step is to download both packages from their respective  
locations and install via
dpkg -i cython*deb
dpkg -i python-evas*deb
to be on the safe side, substitute the names with the full ones (don't  
have them handy right now).
if for some reason installation fails, because a dependency is missing,  
apt-cache is helpful:

apt-cache show libevas0

produces the following output:

Package: libevas0
Priority: optional
Section: libs
Installed-Size: 848
Maintainer: Debian Pkg-e Team pkg-e-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Architecture: armel
Source: evas
Version: 0.9.9.050-2
Depends: libc6 (= 2.7-1), libcairo2 (= 1.2.4), libeet1 (= 1.1.0),  
libfontconfig1 (= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5), libgcc1 (= 1:4.3),  
libgif4 (= 4.1.6), libglib2.0-0 (= 2.12.0), libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.12.0),  
libjpeg62, libpng12-0 (= 1.2.13-4), librsvg2-2 (= 2.18.1), libtiff4,  
zlib1g (= 1:1.1.4)
Recommends: libevas-engines
Filename: pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb
Size: 260460
MD5sum: d3106461470bf0ae680233797fdf43c0
SHA1: 0dd27f6687b5a1ef7f19401f7515b1c3382e81aa
SHA256: f0d2a47012992a0cd4dee98f1222891398403fb74cc197cebfb354a74e36c950
Description: Enlightenment DR17 advanced canvas library
  Evas is an advanced canvas library, providing six engines for rendering:  
X11,
  OpenGL (hardware accelerated), DirectFB, the framebuffer, Microsoft  
Windows
  and Qtopia.
  .
  Due to its simple API, evas can be developed with rapidly, and cleanly.
  .
  This package contains the core library and a set of image loaders and/or  
savers
  for various formats: eet, gif, jpeg, png, svg, tiff and xpm
Homepage: http://www.enlightenment.org

the line beginning with Filename:  shows the path to the missing package  
inside the repo, here

pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb

if your installation is a default one, the repo will be

http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian

so you have to point your browser/wget/whatever to

http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb

this is rather informational! if you are not familiar with either dpkg or  
apt, you should refrain from wildly installing and better ask here  
together with the output from dpkg to get help!


after that starting zhone should work -- if not, it's probably  
another/additional error. starting zhone like said above in such cases  
produces useful, nay, necessary output, so please append.

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Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]

2008-12-20 Thread Lothar Behrens

Hi,

I have now also a 16 GB SD card (SanDisk/SDSDQ-016G-E11M)
but I didn't get it run with my ASU 2008/9 from Tue, 16 Sep 2008 and
uboot 1.3.2-moko12.

Here is the problem: After fisrt boot I couldn't use fdisk, because it
couldn't access anyhow.

Then after another reboot I was able to do it.

Here is my first partition:

r...@om-gta02:~# fdisk /dev/mmcblk0

The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1936.
There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
and could in certain setups cause problems with:
1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
(e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)

Command (m for help): p

Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 15.9 GB, 15931539456 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1936 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/mmcblk0p1 1 487 3911796 83 Linux

Command (m for help):

But I cannot mount it at /media/card because I haven't the device.

Isn't that device created automatically ?

How to create one (mknod, block type, but what mayor minor) ?

Thanks

Lothar

Am 10.11.2008 um 23:27 schrieb Marian Flor:

Am Montag, den 10.11.2008, 00:33 +0100 schrieb Lothar Behrens:

I had some more look about other cards about 8GB, but if there are
more users having success,
I will buy this card.

The iPhone and the N810 support 16GB microSD so why shouldn't the
Openmoko? was my guess and so I gave it a try.

Especially when the eaten MBR problem was only once a problem. Was
it ?

No. My MBR was never fragged (This would have been be fatal for me on
the next morning. Of course I mean the _card's_ MBR ;-) ). The
filesystem (ext2) got whacked by a suspend or unsynced halt command,
so that fdisk did not recover upon boot.

But I was able to fix the filesystem on the microSD by a manually
fdisk
from the other linux on the internal flash memory. Switching to ext3
may

also help, but make sure that your sd card supports wear leveling. In
the other case ext3 may shorten the lifecycle of the card. Also,
mounting the microSD with -noatime should lower the stress (and
extend

the lifetime) of the card.

Anyhow. It seems a good advice to keep a copy (printed or dd) of the
microSD's MBR in a warm and dry place apart from your Freerunner.

A kind closing note: Please place your answer _under_ the quoted text
next time.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#On_the_lists_on_lists.openmoko.org.2C_should_replies_be_added_above_or_below_the_original_text.3F

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Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]

you need to format!
mke2fs is your friend.

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Re: Re: [debian/fso] Re: starting kde on debian

arne anka wrote:
 div class=moz-text-flowed style=font-family: -moz-fixed can you 
 help me a little bit more please:
 I have downloaded the python-evas from http://www.ginguppin.de/node/24
 and I have been searching and reading about .deb and how to install 
 them.
 But I can't make out how to do it

 oh, just the usual debian way.

 for starters, the output of
 DISPLAY=:0 zhone
 would have been nice, to confirm it is really the issue i suspect.
Yes your right and yes it was the issue yuo suspected!
 if so the next step is to download both packages from their respective 
 locations and install via
 dpkg -i cython*deb
 dpkg -i python-evas*deb
 to be on the safe side, substitute the names with the full ones (don't 
 have them handy right now).
Ok this is what I needed (I'm not a debian user my flavor is Mandriva 
witch is using rpm.)

 if for some reason installation fails, because a dependency is 
 missing, apt-cache is helpful:

 apt-cache show libevas0

 produces the following output:

 Package: libevas0
 Priority: optional
 Section: libs
 Installed-Size: 848
 Maintainer: Debian Pkg-e Team pkg-e-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org
 Architecture: armel
 Source: evas
 Version: 0.9.9.050-2
 Depends: libc6 (= 2.7-1), libcairo2 (= 1.2.4), libeet1 (= 1.1.0), 
 libfontconfig1 (= 2.4.0), libfreetype6 (= 2.3.5), libgcc1 (= 
 1:4.3), libgif4 (= 4.1.6), libglib2.0-0 (= 2.12.0), libgtk2.0-0 (= 
 2.12.0), libjpeg62, libpng12-0 (= 1.2.13-4), librsvg2-2 (= 2.18.1), 
 libtiff4, zlib1g (= 1:1.1.4)
 Recommends: libevas-engines
 Filename: pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb
 Size: 260460
 MD5sum: d3106461470bf0ae680233797fdf43c0
 SHA1: 0dd27f6687b5a1ef7f19401f7515b1c3382e81aa
 SHA256: f0d2a47012992a0cd4dee98f1222891398403fb74cc197cebfb354a74e36c950
 Description: Enlightenment DR17 advanced canvas library
  Evas is an advanced canvas library, providing six engines for 
 rendering: X11,
  OpenGL (hardware accelerated), DirectFB, the framebuffer, Microsoft 
 Windows
  and Qtopia.
  .
  Due to its simple API, evas can be developed with rapidly, and cleanly.
  .
  This package contains the core library and a set of image loaders 
 there  and/or savers
  for various formats: eet, gif, jpeg, png, svg, tiff and xpm
 Homepage: http://www.enlightenment.org

No there is no need for this it installs fine and Zhone now is running.

 the line beginning with Filename:  shows the path to the missing 
 package inside the repo, here

 pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb

 if your installation is a default one, the repo will be

 http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian

 so you have to point your browser/wget/whatever to

 http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/e/evas/libevas0_0.9.9.050-2_armel.deb
  


 this is rather informational! if you are not familiar with either dpkg 
 or apt, you should refrain from wildly installing and better ask here 
 together with the output from dpkg to get help!


 after that starting zhone should work -- if not, it's probably 
 another/additional error. starting zhone like said above in such cases 
 produces useful, nay, necessary output, so please append.


So zhone is now working fine. but I have a lot to learn thank you for 
pointing me in ther right direction.

if I may ask an other question:
how can I add new programs to zhone/freerunner: I would like to use an 
agenda, navigation prog (something like tomtom), and a today screen.

Thanks for helping me,

greetings

Jos
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Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]

2008-12-20 Thread Lothar Behrens


That's done, but it doesn't create the device for partition 1.

I have rebooted after formatting /dev/mmcblk0

I need to create the device nodes for the partitions before I can  
mount on it and I think

I should then format these devices before I mount.

Lothar

Am 21.12.2008 um 00:54 schrieb arne anka:


you need to format!
mke2fs is your friend.

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Re: Re: [debian/fso] Re: starting kde on debian

 if I may ask an other question:
 how can I add new programs to zhone/freerunner: I would like to use an
 agenda, navigation prog (something like tomtom), and a today screen.


to zhone as such: not at all.
zhone is basically a sandbox to test features of fso.
so far it is the only frontend to place calls, read sim contacts and  
send/receive sms.

so, what you intend is achieved by installing a window/desktop manager,  
xfce seems to be the one widely used.
read
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian
and the XFCE section in particular.
afterwards zhone runs as simple application.
for agenda osmo seems to be the one that fits best, it contains calendar,  
contacts management and so on -- but is in no way integrated with zhone,  
ie the contacts are not available there (there's a simple patch to zhone  
that makes it read the vcf-file of osmo, but that's for another day ;-)
navigation is possible via either tangogps or navit, while tangogps is in  
the debian repository there seems to be no debian/armel package available  
of navit (yet).
for both apps you need to install fso-gpsd.

debian uses apt, so that's the tool to install/uninstall/upgrade/search  
packages.
in /etc/apt/sources.list the repositories are listed -- unless you know  
what you do it is not recommended to fiddle with it.
the first step is usually to do

apt-get update

that updates the list of currently available packages and thus even allows  
to make upgrades:

apt-get upgrade

shows a list of packages for which newer versions are available and asks  
for confirmation

apt-get dist-upgrade

upgrades even crucial packages like the kernel.
to install a particular package (or several) use

apt-get install packagename

to find a specific package, say osmo, use

apt-cache search osmo

you get

gosmore - Openstreetmap.org viewer / wayfinder / search client
ifrit - a powerful tool for visualizing 3-dimensional data sets
liblua5.1-cosmo0 - A template library for the lua langua version 5.1
osmo - personal organizer for GTK+
osmo-dbg - Debugging symbols for osmo

easy to see that the package names are to the left.
you can even search for generic terms like

apt-cache search navigation

the list is much longer, but with the short description you might be able  
to filter and then do

apt-cache show packagename

for a more detailed description.
to uninstall you should use

apt-get purge packagename

purge removes even configfiles, if you want to keep them use remove  
instead.


the simpliest way for you should be

apt-get update  apt-get install nodm xfce4 osmo

configure according to the link above.

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Re: Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]

 I have rebooted after formatting /dev/mmcblk0

/dev/mmcblk0 is the raw device, you want /dev/mmcblk0p1.
look at the output from fdisk ...

if it is still not there, your u-boot/kernel might be too old.
are there any messages at boot?

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Re: New 2008.12 Release

2008-12-20 Thread Pierre Lascar

Le jeudi 18 décembre 2008 à 23:56 -0800, abatrour a écrit :
 Just noticed on the server. I'm going to try it out right now.
 
 http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/

What is gta02v5-lowlevel.bin made for?




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[2008.12] Accelerometer latency

2008-12-20 Thread Charles-Henri Gros

When trying to read the accelerometers, it looks like no data is
received if there's a big change in acceleration.

e.g. if I hexdump /dev/input/event2, and start shaking the phone, output
stops.

Any ideas why this may be happening / how to fix it?

Thanks,
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Re: Importing Contacts from Thunderbird

2008-12-20 Thread Dennis Wollersheim

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Hey Will

Can you tell me what you found out about the format? It also does not
import contacts from jpilot.

Cheers
Dennis

Will Siddall wrote:
 Hey,
 I know there's a wiki item for this, but I just have to send it to
 everyone.  I want to edit the wiki, but I don't know if anyone has run
 into this problem yet.
 
 The wiki shows to install a VCF plugin for thunderbird then just
 import the VCF into your contacts app.  I had a lot of problems with
 this and actually found that the format of the VCF file doesn't match
 what 'addressbook' is looking for.
 
 Instead, here are the steps I found to work and if anyone can confirm
 this, I will add it to the wiki.
 
 1: Export your addressbook/contacts to VCF file(s)
 2: From your terminal, run:
 sed -r -e 's/;TYPE=([^,]+),([^:]+):/;\1;\2:/g' old.vcf  new.vcf
 3: From your OpenMoko, run:
 addressbook new.vcf
 
 Will
 
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Re: New 2008.12 Release

2008-12-20 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

guys -- looks for some email in the mailing list which described what
packages to remove to bring it to that desired low startup time... I
believe it is also described in wiki somewhere

I've done it on my FDOM + updates and it is indeed reasonably quick
(didn't measure exact timing though)

6 sec to press power should be improved imho -- there is no need for it
to be more than 3 sec (enough time imho to differ between Power-AUx, or
AUX - Power presses to get into different UBoots)

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Vasco Névoa wrote:
 With OM2008.9/testing and ASU theme + gsm0710muxd service, it'  
 definitely around 60 seconds.

  It's the faster i have seen on FR currently.
 Yep. :)

  Maybe it's partly because (thanks to ;) ) QI?
 That should only make a difference in the first part of boot (until  
 the first kernel line) I think...



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Re: Question about a file I am not aware

2008-12-20 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

I guess this question didn't re-circulate on the list for a while, so...

just look into

/opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf

to get better feeling of control over the situation ;-)


On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster wrote:
 afaik it is autmatically created to index files that my be useful to 
 qtopia, you contacts are stored in the flash memory of you phone, not on 
 sdcard (see wiki: Pre-Flash Backup i don't remember the path, but it 
 is sth like /home/root/Documents and /home/root/Applications)
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