Re: Request for Feedback - SATAN

2009-03-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
 2) Add an icon in .ipk package. I installed to 2008.12+Kustomized, no
 icon was shown.

OK, the icon was shown after restarting. I won't mind you chancing
that, too.. From my point of view it doesn't have anything to do with
the application..

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Re: Openmoko toolchain error

2009-03-21 Thread Daniel.Li
On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 10:02 +0530, rakshat hooja wrote:
 /usr/lib/libmokoui2.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[2]: *** [openmoko-sample] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/shakti/openmoko-sample2/src'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/shakti/openmoko-sample2'
 make: *** [all] Error 2

$ file /usr/lib/libmokoui2.so

check file format. It should be arm. 

BTW, what are u building right now?
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Re: Bluetooth headsets to the resque (was: Re: Buzz Issues - Last Questions, I promise)

2009-03-21 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:18:42 +0300
Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry, i can't answer to any of these questions, but i want to notify
 you and other community members that support for bluetooth headsets in
 FSO is coming and it will have neither buzz nor echo issues.

When testing my bluetooth headset in FSO, I had big problems with the
sound quality. I'll quite my own mail from the thread Re: Problems
with ASoC and Bluetooth routing:

  Another (I guess unrelated) problem I have is that the sound through
  the headset is quite bad. I hear a faint echo of myself and the sound
  has a sharp metallic tone to it. My girlfriend in the other end also
  complained that the sound was so low that it was difficult to hear the
  conversation.

Perhaps it's possible to resolve these things with better ALSA state
files, but at least when I tried it, the sound was actually better
through the phone.

Anyway, the A2DP sound is quite good, so I suppose there is hope :-)

// Simon

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Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-21 Thread Paul Fertser
Simon Kagstrom simon.kagst...@gmail.com writes:
 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sorry, i can't answer to any of these questions, but i want to notify
 you and other community members that support for bluetooth headsets in
 FSO is coming and it will have neither buzz nor echo issues.

   Another (I guess unrelated) problem I have is that the sound through
   the headset is quite bad. I hear a faint echo of myself and the sound
   has a sharp metallic tone to it. My girlfriend in the other end also
   complained that the sound was so low that it was difficult to hear the
   conversation.

Are you sure the echo of yourself is definetely bluetooth-related?
Because there're quite some cases in gsm communications where one can
hear echo of his voice, i had this myself numerous times using regular
dumb cell phone.

As to the low signal fed to calypso, well, just look at the sound
routing diagram and tweak mixer settings, i guess that's an easy one
to fix.

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Re: check filesystem every n mounts (was Re: qt extended stops receiving sms)

2009-03-21 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
tune2fs is for ext2/ext3 formatted partitions. On openmoko, the root
partition is jffs2 formatted, so this can't be used (idem for
fsck.ext2/3).

Franky

On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:16:43 +1300
Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 2009/3/19 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com:
  If it is the same for you (I mean you use QText from uSD) try fsck.
 
  i've been having the same problem with .12 installed on internal
  flash
 
  as it's internal flash and not microsd, i can't take it out and
  check it in my laptop, and i recall there are issues with fsck'ing
  a mounted filesystem - how can i check it without causing problems?
  is there a way to autocheck it at boot?
 
 ok, in answer to my own question, i did some research on filesystem
 checking, and discovered 'tune2fs' is the programme i need to set the
 fs to be checked at regular intervals
 
 this is the command i came up with, i.e. to check the internal flash
 every 10 mounts
 
 tune2fs -c 10 /dev/mtdblock6
 
 i chose mtdblock6, as it's the filesystem listed in fstab, which is
 mounted to /
 
 when i run this, it gives me an error:
 tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to
 open /dev/mtdblock6
 
 which i don't entirely understand. any suggestions what's going on
 here?
 
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Re: check filesystem every n mounts

2009-03-21 Thread Paul Fertser
Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes:
 tune2fs -c 10 /dev/mtdblock6
...
 when i run this, it gives me an error:
 tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/mtdblock6

 which i don't entirely understand. any suggestions what's going on here?

jffs2 is not ext[23]

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Re: Request for Feedback - SATAN

2009-03-21 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
 1) Rename it. Yeah, I know it's nice to provoke people etc but to me
it just sounds stupid.

One more vote for renaming.



2) Add an icon in .ipk package. I installed to 2008.12+Kustomized, no
icon was shown.

I got icon. (is this fixed?)



 3) First run I get a message that Enlightenment was not able to ...
 satan: error while loading shared libraries: libltdl.so.3: cannot open

I added libltdl3 for http://www.opkg.org/package_34.html


 4) Started the app. It's a mess.. sorry.. I'd like to be able to do

I do this step-by-step
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23526681/MANUAL.txt
(My sound settings of phone are messed so I didn't got any noise out of.)

This manual is good. But maybe program is too hard and complicated to
Phone if it needs so long read-this-first (and I can't reproduce
anything without that manual).

Keep it simple. / Use menus with long names.
Tabs like  Ld/Sv aren't good. How about standardr drop down menu
called File (containing Load project and Save project)? I didn't got
point of whole Connector-tab. Maybe some working default settings
and menu-entry 'Advanced'- 'Connections' where power-user can fine
tune them.

And menu entry named 'Mode' could have 'surf' and 'tracker' and so on.

-Aapo Rantalainen

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Re: Openmoko toolchain error

2009-03-21 Thread rakshat hooja



 $ file /usr/lib/libmokoui2.so

 check file format. It should be arm.

 BTW, what are u building right now?
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It works now if I run it without using sudo.   Was just trying the sample
app in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Toolchain for now.

Thanks

Rakshat
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Re: Community effort: Browser review/comparison in wiki

2009-03-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I added the results for ewww there. In a way it was surprisingly good
but some features missing.

Feel free to test the rest. Some interesting browsers are listed there
that need to be tested. I'd like to see fennec compiled  tested too
but I guess it'll just take a while..



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Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-21 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:23:40 +0300
Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote:

Another (I guess unrelated) problem I have is that the sound
  through the headset is quite bad. I hear a faint echo of myself and
  the sound has a sharp metallic tone to it. My girlfriend in the
  other end also complained that the sound was so low that it was
  difficult to hear the conversation.
 
 Are you sure the echo of yourself is definetely bluetooth-related?
 Because there're quite some cases in gsm communications where one can
 hear echo of his voice, i had this myself numerous times using regular
 dumb cell phone.

No, I'm not sure. It might not be bluetooth-related, but perhaps is
caused by the mixer settings. I don't hear my own echo when talking
without the bluetooth headset though.

 As to the low signal fed to calypso, well, just look at the sound
 routing diagram and tweak mixer settings, i guess that's an easy one
 to fix.

Yes, and maybe the metallic sound is possible to fix with this as well.
I've tried changing mixer settings in alsamixer somewhat at random
(basically turning all knobs), but wihtout getting any real
improvement. Anyway, I'm sure it's possible to get this working some
way and at least for me it would be a huge usability improvement of the
phone.

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Re: check filesystem every n mounts (was Re: qt extended stops receiving sms)

2009-03-21 Thread arne anka
 tune2fs -c 10 /dev/mtdblock6

as others said, the internal flash uses jiffs2 -- since apparently you  
never checked or you don't know about different filesystems, i strongly  
advise you to refrain from such potentially destructive actions until you  
really know, what you do.
i found a few mentions of a fsck.jiffs2 but ever actually encountered a  
binary.
anyway, jiffs2 is supposed to manage that stuff of operations itself,  
iirc, w/o any need to force it.

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Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-21 Thread Paul Fertser
Simon Kagstrom simon.kagst...@gmail.com writes:
 On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:23:40 +0300
 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote:
Another (I guess unrelated) problem I have is that the sound
  through the headset is quite bad. I hear a faint echo of myself and
  the sound has a sharp metallic tone to it. My girlfriend in the
  other end also complained that the sound was so low that it was
  difficult to hear the conversation.
 
 Are you sure the echo of yourself is definetely bluetooth-related?
 Because there're quite some cases in gsm communications where one can
 hear echo of his voice, i had this myself numerous times using regular
 dumb cell phone.

 No, I'm not sure. It might not be bluetooth-related, but perhaps is
 caused by the mixer settings. I don't hear my own echo when talking
 without the bluetooth headset though.

Is it statistically-proven?

 As to the low signal fed to calypso, well, just look at the sound
 routing diagram and tweak mixer settings, i guess that's an easy one
 to fix.

 Yes, and maybe the metallic sound is possible to fix with this as well.
 I've tried changing mixer settings in alsamixer somewhat at random
 (basically turning all knobs), 

Hm, you know about
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem routing diagram
with alsa control names, don't you?

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gridpad 2.1? where?

2009-03-21 Thread arne anka
just checked the recent community update and discovered GridPad v.2.1  
Released.
two questions arised immediately:
a) where does that info come from?
b) how to get?

for b): om.vptt.ch seems to be down for a couple of days now, at least i  
cannot connect -- every attempt times out.
is it just me or does anyone have some informations about gridpad having  
moved somewhere else?


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Re: gridpad 2.1? where?

2009-03-21 Thread rakshat hooja
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 5:48 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:

 just checked the recent community update and discovered GridPad v.2.1
 Released.
 two questions arised immediately:
 a) where does that info come from?
 b) how to get?

 for b): om.vptt.ch seems to be down for a couple of days now, at least i
 cannot connect -- every attempt times out.
 is it just me or does anyone have some informations about gridpad having
 moved somewhere else?


om.vptt.ch seems to be down but the GridPad v.2.1 announcement is still
there on planet.openmoko.org

Install files should be at * http://downloads.om.vptt.ch/GridPad/

But this link seems to be timing out
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FSO 5.1 and Python

2009-03-21 Thread Olivier Migeot
I just upgraded to FSO 5.1, and I'm wondering : where are all the
python packages? From the included feeds, I'm unable to get pygtk
(so lot of apps aren't working), nor python-sqlite...

Any idea?

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Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-21 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:13:07 +0300
Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote:

  No, I'm not sure. It might not be bluetooth-related, but perhaps is
  caused by the mixer settings. I don't hear my own echo when talking
  without the bluetooth headset though.
 
 Is it statistically-proven?

I don't claim to test these things statistically :-) It's just the
feeling I get after having tested both methods in the same location.

I'd just like to encourage other people to try it out and get their own
feeling for how it works. Perhaps it's better elsewhere, I don't know,
but I would guess that the ALSA state files need some work.

If you don't believe me, just try it yourself. If you get better
results, let the world know!

  Yes, and maybe the metallic sound is possible to fix with this as
  well. I've tried changing mixer settings in alsamixer somewhat at
  random (basically turning all knobs), 
 
 Hm, you know about
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem routing diagram
 with alsa control names, don't you?

Yes. I spent a lot of time trying to get this working as you can see
from the previous mail threads.

// Simon

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Re: Request for Feedback - SATAN

2009-03-21 Thread Anton Persson
First of all, I'm glad that people have at least tried it... But I also
expected that probably many
would not come very far, since the application IS complicated... I'll try to
make the next version
a bit easier, however the basic concept is in it's nature complicated and
there's always going
to be tons of knobs and levers to pull and slide since that's what you need
to enable as much
creativity as possible... But yes, I do recognize that it must be as easy as
possible to understand
how to find the knob you want, and minimize the amount of work needed just
to get started.

NOTE! There is an XML-file in /usr/share/satan called satanUI.xml that
describes the
GUI, if you have the time and inclination please play around with that and
give me a
proposal.. Also note that that is an proprietary XML format for the GUI
engine I'm using.

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Aapo Rantalainen 
aapo.rantalai...@gmail.com wrote:

  1) Rename it. Yeah, I know it's nice to provoke people etc but to me
 it just sounds stupid.

 One more vote for renaming.


The name is probably going to stay the same since it is etched in s many
places
that it's very much a lock-in now... Maybe I can add a friendlier icon and
alias for
the menu so you won't be offended every time you use your phone.. ;-) And
for
the record; the name is one of the few silly things I have left in my life
now when
I'm all grown up with a family and responsibilities.. It's kinda sentimental
and still makes
me put on this silly smile once in a while when I'm discussing it with my
friends.. ;-P




 2) Add an icon in .ipk package. I installed to 2008.12+Kustomized, no
 icon was shown.

 I got icon. (is this fixed?)


It seems to be different on different distributions; there IS an icon in the
package
and on some distros it shows up correctly, and on others it doesn't.. If
someone
can point at what I can change about the icons path, and/or the
.desktop-file I
would be delighted to fix it. For the next version I set Categories to
Applications,
hopefully that will make it better for SHR users.. Hope it will still works
for me.



  3) First run I get a message that Enlightenment was not able to ...
  satan: error while loading shared libraries: libltdl.so.3: cannot open

 I added libltdl3 for http://www.opkg.org/package_34.html


I have libltdl3 as a dependency in the control file used for ipk-generation,
but
it seems maybe that isn't enough? Any suggestions?




  4) Started the app. It's a mess.. sorry.. I'd like to be able to do

 I do this step-by-step
 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23526681/MANUAL.txt
 (My sound settings of phone are messed so I didn't got any noise out of.)

 This manual is good. But maybe program is too hard and complicated to
 Phone if it needs so long read-this-first (and I can't reproduce
 anything without that manual).


The application is complicated for sure, but that's a result of the
basic requirement let the imagination be the limit.. I'll try to
explain it through an example; a basic synthesizer is easy to
get started with, but it is not a complete studio. If you want a
complete studio you won't have something that is easy to start
with...

My idea now is to have a question asked when the application start:
Do you want it simple? yes or no... Yes will pre-load a toy-project
that is easy to start playing with, sort of a demo.


 Keep it simple. / Use menus with long names.
 Tabs like  Ld/Sv aren't good. How about standardr drop down menu
 called File (containing Load project and Save project)? I didn't got
 point of whole Connector-tab. Maybe some working default settings
 and menu-entry 'Advanced'- 'Connections' where power-user can fine
 tune them.


The connector tab is quite vital, alas... :-) It is basically the studio,
here you can add your synthesizers, drum machines, echo-boxes
and so forth.. If you have an empty studio; then you have no sound except
the occasional cough from the studio manager wondering what you
are doing without any instruments... ;-)



 And menu entry named 'Mode' could have 'surf' and 'tracker' and so on.


Maybe I could have two major modes, one called Configure and one
called Compose, and then the Load/Save project tab.  The Configure mode
would contain sample loader, instrument editor, control configuration
and connections. The Compose mode would contain the Surface, the
tracker and the sequencer. One problem that is constant is the lack of
screen real-estate on the 2.8 screen we have to play with.. Especially
since I want to make it more finger friendly in the future..

The way of the future will hopefully be nicer looking graphics that is
more finger friendly... This will however probably require the new OpenMoko
since the code I write requires a FPU that won't be available until that
phone arrives...

I hope I get some more feedback on the ideas I presented here and on the
comments I made on your suggestions.

   Best regards
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[SHR-testing] GSM restart, how?

2009-03-21 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Hi list,
I'm a *very* happy user of SHR-testing. But, in my home's area, GSM
covering for my operator (Wind, Italy) is low, and sometimes during call
i lost my girlfriend. And, here, all OK.

The bad with SHR-testing is that after the line went dead, the Call
application sometimes remains open and if I close it manually with the
X Illume button, I notice that GSM is lost definitively. If I go to
Settings - Phone, it doesn't load the modules or simply says: Could
not connect to dbus, but no button is shown to restart dbus.

I don't know if this is a dbus problem, but with OM 2008.12 all worked
fine also in my home. I need now to restart the Neo to get it work
again. It happens quite often when I'm at home, and it's the _only_
thing that makes Neo unstable for me.

Is there a way to get GSM/dbus work again without reboot?

Thanks :)
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Re: [SHR-testing] GSM restart, how?

2009-03-21 Thread Jan Lübbe
On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 16:46 +0100, Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
 Is there a way to get GSM/dbus work again without reboot?

Depending on what went wrong, releasing and re-requesting the GSM
resource might be a workaround.

Could you try to reproduce this with debug logging for ogsmd? When you
have a log, please create a ticket at http://trac.freesmartphone.org .

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Re: [SHR-testing] GSM restart, how?

2009-03-21 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
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Jan Lübbe ha scritto:
 On Sat, 2009-03-21 at 16:46 +0100, Francesco de Virgilio wrote:
 Is there a way to get GSM/dbus work again without reboot?
 
 Depending on what went wrong, releasing and re-requesting the GSM
 resource might be a workaround.
 
 Could you try to reproduce this with debug logging for ogsmd? When you
 have a log, please create a ticket at http://trac.freesmartphone.org .

Yeah but, how could I do it? Something like what is explained in point 6
here? :
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework/mdbus

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Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany

2009-03-21 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Daniel,

Am Sonntag, den 15.03.2009, 18:42 +0100 schrieb Daniel Willmann:
 I have now performed a couple buzz fixes and feel pretty confident
 that I'll fix more phones than I'll break in the process. :-)
 (I haven't broken any phones until now)
 
 In order to gauge interest and plan ahead wrt ordering
 Resistors/Capacitors I'd like to know how many phones would come. The
 party will probably take place in mid April.
 If you are interested and would show up please mail me privately and
 also tell me how many phones you would bring.
 
 If all goes well I'll be doing this with support from Openmoko and will
 be able to replace any Freerunners I break in the process.

I’d be very interested (even without OM blessing), if it will be
possible to send the device by mail.

Thanks,
Joachim

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Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany

2009-03-21 Thread Marcel
Am Saturday 21 March 2009 17:44:54 schrieb Joachim Breitner:
 I’d be very interested (even without OM blessing), if it will be
 possible to send the device by mail.

That's a really good idea since Braunschweig is quite a while from near 
Hamburg...

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Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany

2009-03-21 Thread Davide Scaini
great! but i think that om should fix it since it's an hadrware bug and not
a software one (...fr comes in practice with no guaranteed sw, not hw...)
what do you think? the only thing that makes me a bit angry with om is this
audio issue...
d

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Joachim Breitner
m...@joachim-breitner.dewrote:

 Hi Daniel,

 Am Sonntag, den 15.03.2009, 18:42 +0100 schrieb Daniel Willmann:
  I have now performed a couple buzz fixes and feel pretty confident
  that I'll fix more phones than I'll break in the process. :-)
  (I haven't broken any phones until now)
 
  In order to gauge interest and plan ahead wrt ordering
  Resistors/Capacitors I'd like to know how many phones would come. The
  party will probably take place in mid April.
  If you are interested and would show up please mail me privately and
  also tell me how many phones you would bring.
 
  If all goes well I'll be doing this with support from Openmoko and will
  be able to replace any Freerunners I break in the process.

 I’d be very interested (even without OM blessing), if it will be
 possible to send the device by mail.

 Thanks,
 Joachim

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Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany

2009-03-21 Thread arne anka
 That's a really good idea since Braunschweig is quite a while from near
 Hamburg...

well, i am in hamburg -- if this thing is to take place on a date i am  
available, i surely will go to braunschweig (sent a pm already with the  
dates i am not available).
if i go, i could take yor freerunner with me.

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Re: GSM buzz-fix party in Braunschweig, Germany

2009-03-21 Thread Marcel
Am Saturday 21 March 2009 18:03:01 schrieb arne anka:
  That's a really good idea since Braunschweig is quite a while from near
  Hamburg...

 well, i am in hamburg -- if this thing is to take place on a date i am
 available, i surely will go to braunschweig (sent a pm already with the
 dates i am not available).
 if i go, i could take yor freerunner with me.

That would be great! :)

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Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released

2009-03-21 Thread GNUtoo
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 17:55 +0100, Johny Tenfinger wrote:
 I builded Alpha 2 with bitbake some time ago. It has bugs with using
 autotools from host machine, but i workarounded it and it worked. Now
 i'm trying the same with beta 1. but alpha 2 was really slow... I'm
 not expecting Beta 1 to be usable on FR.
 
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I built it too...
but it has issues:
*slow
*not obtimized for the openmoko screen...
Denis.



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Re: Fennec Beta 1 Released

2009-03-21 Thread GNUtoo
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 12:32 -0400, Brad Lassey wrote:
 Al,
 
 Personally, I have never used bitbake, so I'm not sure what that is 
 doing exactly.
 
 As for the autoconf question, mozilla requires autoconf2.13.  You can 
 specify the path to your autoconf2.13 either by exporting 
 AUTOCONF=path in your environment or by specifying AUTOCONF=path in 
 your mozconfig.
ah ok better thank hacking the client.mk makefile...
making a recipe for autoconf-2.13 is realy easy...but it seems to
replace the default one in staging
maybe we should make like the Desktop distributions:
Create a wrapper script for autoconf that call the right autoconf,and
stage autoconf differently.

 
 See https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Linux_Build_Prerequisites for more 
 details.
 
 Also, if you're interested, see the FAQ for why autoconf 2.5.x doesn't 
 work.
 https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla_Build_FAQ
 
 -Brad
 
 On 3/20/2009 12:05 PM, Al Johnson wrote:
  On Friday 20 March 2009, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 
  You're oversimplifying a bit.
 
  You're forgetting https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Build/cs2007q3
   
  I just tried:
 
  bitbake fennec
 
  This does a checkout from hg but it fails during configure. It looks like 
  it's
  trying to use autoconf2.13 for some reason. This version isn't on my build
  machine, or in OE, so perhaps it's hardcoded to use it? I haven't dug any
  deeper.
 
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Freerunner for sale

2009-03-21 Thread al iasid
GTA02 850Hz (US) - Great condition and in original box with:
- 3 Openmoko batteries (1 orig + 2 spares)
- Gilsson MMCX GPS antenna (with cable and mounting bracket)
- iGo Bluetooth keyboard
- tiny (2.75 x 6.5 in.) USB keyboard (and cable)
- Cowon triangular micro stylus (and lanyard)
- original laser/LED stylus (low batteries)
- wall-charger
- USB cable
- Openmoko neoprene case
- Openmoko headset
- 512MB SD-card (and adapter)
- 2GB SD-card (and adapter)
PayPal accepted.
Free shipping anywhere in continental US. (I'm in Indiana.)
$275
Rob: aliasid at gmail dot com.
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Flashing error?

2009-03-21 Thread Brigzzy Ory'Hara
Hello all,

I'm using neotool to flash my freerunner with the latest android image
(panicking version 14.6-cupcake) and kernel (uImage-v15-ext3), but I'm
getting the same error on boot.  If I boot it through the NOR boot menu, it
says it can't find the kernel image.  If I boot it normally (and in verboose
mode), it gets to the part talking about the request_suspend_state, then
does a bunch of stuff with the power_supply (for about 20 lines, then loops
back to the request_suspend_state.  Has anyone else run into these
problems?

Danny Briggs
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Re: Flashing error?

2009-03-21 Thread rakshat hooja
Did you create the fat and ext partion on your sd card?

On 3/22/09, Brigzzy Ory'Hara brig...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,

 I'm using neotool to flash my freerunner with the latest android image
 (panicking version 14.6-cupcake) and kernel (uImage-v15-ext3), but I'm
 getting the same error on boot.  If I boot it through the NOR boot menu, it
 says it can't find the kernel image.  If I boot it normally (and in verboose
 mode), it gets to the part talking about the request_suspend_state, then
 does a bunch of stuff with the power_supply (for about 20 lines, then loops
 back to the request_suspend_state.  Has anyone else run into these
 problems?

 Danny Briggs



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Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue

2009-03-21 Thread ezuall

Great feedback everybody, I have no doubts regarding the community's
dedication to solutions to this issue.  And I really appreciate all the hard
work you guys are doing.

That said, I'm not going to stop asking for final word on the official fix. 
If it is possible and practical it will be provided, if not Openmoko should
just say: Listen guys, we're sorry that thing's didn't work out, but the
fix just aint happening, it's DIY or nothing.

Cheers
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Re: Flashing error?

2009-03-21 Thread Brigzzy Ory'Hara
I'm not flashing it to the SD card, I'm using the onboard flash.  But now
that you mention it, in an attempt to troubleshoot an unrelated problem, I
did delete both the partitions on the SD card.  Could this be causing my
problem?

2009/3/21 rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com

 Did you create the fat and ext partion on your sd card?

 On 3/22/09, Brigzzy Ory'Hara brig...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  I'm using neotool to flash my freerunner with the latest android image
  (panicking version 14.6-cupcake) and kernel (uImage-v15-ext3), but I'm
  getting the same error on boot.  If I boot it through the NOR boot menu,
 it
  says it can't find the kernel image.  If I boot it normally (and in
 verboose
  mode), it gets to the part talking about the request_suspend_state, then
  does a bunch of stuff with the power_supply (for about 20 lines, then
 loops
  back to the request_suspend_state.  Has anyone else run into these
  problems?
 
  Danny Briggs
 


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Re: Freerunner for sale

2009-03-21 Thread Michele Renda
On 21/03/2009 20:12, al iasid wrote:
 - tiny (2.75 x 6.5 in.) USB keyboard (and cable)
Hello... I have I too a tiny keyboard. But I need the cable. (mini usb 
to mini usb).
Can you please tell to me where you bought this cable? (or the keyboard?)

Thank you
Michele Renda

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Re: Freerunner for sale

2009-03-21 Thread al iasid
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 21/03/2009 20:12, al iasid wrote:
  - tiny (2.75 x 6.5 in.) USB keyboard (and cable)
 Hello... I have I too a tiny keyboard. But I need the cable. (mini usb
 to mini usb).
 Can you please tell to me where you bought this cable? (or the keyboard?)


I couldn't find a mini-to-mini USB cable. Instead I bought a mini-to-regular
adapter and a female-to-female adapter. This was awkward - though it worked
well (if FR USB set to host mode). Also, I used a USB hub.

Rob (alia...@gmail.com)
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Re: Data call (aka CSD) with QtExtended

2009-03-21 Thread Tuan TRINH
Yes, my GSM carrier support both data/fax and I also did register it.

Thought we need to interact with modem directly to make data calls,
unfortunatety Qt has not much info on how to to this.
Ed, do you have any experience on using it?
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Mike Montour m...@mmontour.net wrote:

 Ed Kapitein wrote:

  I am also looking for a way to make data calls, do you know of any other
  method of making a data call with the FR?
  ( direct AT commands to the modem etc)[...]
  All pointers are welcome!

 First you need to make sure that your GSM carrier supports CSD (mine
 doesn't AFAIK) and that it is activated on your account.

 In the past people have mentioned that the Calypso performs similarly to
 an Enfora Enabler modem and there is some web-accessible documentation
 for that. The AT+CBST (select bearer service type) command seems to be
 involved.

 There's probably some overlap between the CSD commands and the ones used
 for GPRS so I would also look at
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS


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