Re: Arora web browser (Qt issue?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, *) press About Qt on the rightest menu (it's hidden but you can show it clicking on ) Not hidden here On my frerunner (gentoo/e-20090313/qt4.5.0/arora-0.5) the dialog is not showed and it's impossible to interact further and quit the application. Confirmed on Debian unstable. This brings to me another question: how to force killing applications under e? I launch xkill under LXDE. greetings, Erik Nicola Mfb schrieb: For people using arora (in the past I heard of some debian users), may you check and report if you are able to reproduce this: *) launch arora *) press About Qt on the rightest menu (it's hidden but you can show it clicking on ) On my frerunner (gentoo/e-20090313/qt4.5.0/arora-0.5) the dialog is not showed and it's impossible to interact further and quit the application. Looking at qt sources I suspect an issue on devices with tiny resolution. This brings to me another question: how to force killing applications under e? Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - -- Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. - -- George Santayana -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkni5voACgkQ8NqlQQxmej4MwQCfUWdbW/DeotIDxJdZZvtNa9KF g4gAoLGw1AO2x4WHymb9hZtW7I6VzV80 =1sDD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone lockup
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:04:07 -0700 (PDT) c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: HI, There is no intone_song.db, only an art folder which is empty. Thats really odd. Is it really? opkg remove removes the intone_song.db as well would be my guess. Next time don't remove the app, just the file and Intone will recreate it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Missing MAKE Command
Hello All I have missing *make* Command in my Openmoko, when i try to build something, i can not because of *make*. Where can i download it from. if its in Source code, then how to compile it. and if u want me to download it directly to phone using *opkg*, plzz also mention the command for it. Thanx All ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Arora web browser (Qt issue?)
I can recreate this with arora 0.4 on my desktop by running it in Xephyr at 320x240 and it results in the following error (on the console I ran it from) QWidget::setMinimumSize: (/QMessageBox) Negative sizes (-160,334) are not possible Do you get something similar if you run arora from a console window? solar.george On Saturday 11 April 2009 16:12:36 Nicola Mfb wrote: For people using arora (in the past I heard of some debian users), may you check and report if you are able to reproduce this: *) launch arora *) press About Qt on the rightest menu (it's hidden but you can show it clicking on ) On my frerunner (gentoo/e-20090313/qt4.5.0/arora-0.5) the dialog is not showed and it's impossible to interact further and quit the application. Looking at qt sources I suspect an issue on devices with tiny resolution. This brings to me another question: how to force killing applications under e? Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Arora web browser (Qt issue?)
2009/4/13 George Brooke solar.geo...@googlemail.com: I can recreate this with arora 0.4 on my desktop by running it in Xephyr at 320x240 and it results in the following error (on the console I ran it from) QWidget::setMinimumSize: (/QMessageBox) Negative sizes (-160,334) are not possible Do you get something similar if you run arora from a console window? Yes! I reported the problem on the QT issue tracker (but I did not received the confirmation email). I suppose the problem is that when qt is compiled for X11, some api (QMessageBox::*) subtract exactly 480 from the desidered x size of the dialog to be show. So using an x resolution 480 you'll get the negative warning, using 480 will stall the application, while using 480 will work. This subtraction is not performed when the Q_WS_MACRO is defined (qt compiled in embedded mode), but I think we cannot tampering with it as said on some mailing lists. This problems affects other api too, such QMessageBox::information/warning/critical/fatal that are widely used in existing qt applications but not with a DPI 285 (the default for freerunner), so it's very annoying. Using 640x480 in xephyr fix the issue, but it persists on the freerunner even rotating the screen with xrandr, so it may reveal a problem for X with glamo, (or at least on my setup, as TS events are not rotated too and I did not dig about this yet). May you try on your device? Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Arora web browser (Qt issue?)
2009/4/13 Erik Andresen e...@vontaene.de: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [...] This brings to me another question: how to force killing applications under e? I launch xkill under LXDE. Is LXDE finger friendly? I cannot test it just now. Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QT Moko] MP3 support
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 14:18:35 +0200 (CEST) radek polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: The libmad package was also on the Qtopia download page, so it shouldn't be that much of a problem to provide it. More ok would be to not compile it in at all and provide it as a package. I'll try later on to see if I can build libmad just as a package... This sounds good. Please let me know if you had success. Radek Radek, your package is compiled with gstreamer support, yes? So why not just use the gstreamer extensions for mp3, ... these are readily available for debian. Then we can remove the cyrus media engine, maybe gstreamer performs better? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bluetooth and 2.6.28
Hi all, for those interested: I tracked down the bluetooth issue in 2.6.28 based kernels (like eg FSO MS5.1). For qtextended to work with bluetooth, we need a bluez3 bluetooth implementation (specific dbus calls done by qtextended limit us here), so we need to downgrade. But after the downgrade, hcid is the daemon used and this daemon seems to crash upon suspend/unsuspend. So after a resume, we need to manually restart the daemon. No big deal here, but since the daemon died, it seems qtextended no longer reregisters a bluetooth passkey agent when we relaunch hcid. As a result no pairings are possible anymore. So in short: hcid can't die :-) The version 3.33 dies upon suspend/resume. Maybe 3.36 doesn't, but that package isn't available somewhere (not for shr, nor for fso). So I can either use QtMoko, or ask if somebody can provide updated 3.36 packages of the bluez-3 implementation? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Arora web browser (Qt issue?)
Using 640x480 in xephyr fix the issue, but it persists on the freerunner even rotating the screen with xrandr, so it may reveal a problem for X with glamo, (or at least on my setup, as TS events are not rotated too and I did not dig about this yet). May you try on your device? Nicola Hmm it appears to work correctly if arora is starter after the screen was rotated (not if the screen is rotated after arora has started) it appears to go on working even when the screen has been rotated back to portrait. Of course these maybe different/incorrect as I can only run arora over X forwarding from my dektop atm as I'm using SHR-Testing on my FR. solar.george signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth and 2.6.28
2009/4/13 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be: [...[ The version 3.33 dies upon suspend/resume. Maybe 3.36 doesn't, but that package isn't available somewhere (not for shr, nor for fso). So I can either use QtMoko, or ask if somebody can provide updated 3.36 packages of the bluez-3 implementation? Try this: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=bluez-utils Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth and 2.6.28
Can you prefix topics with [QtExtended] or [QtMoko] when you are talking about it? Thanks... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qt moko] Re: Bluetooth and 2.6.28
to crash upon suspend/unsuspend. So after a resume, we need to manually restart the daemon. No big deal here, but since the daemon died, it seems qtextended no longer reregisters a bluetooth passkey agent when we relaunch hcid. As a result no pairings are possible anymore. So in short: hcid can't die :-) what about shutting down hci in a controlled way before suspending or stopping/restarting the whole bt subsystem (/etc/init.d/bluetooth [stop|start]) upon suspend|resume? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth and 2.6.28
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:19:59 +0200 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Can you prefix topics with [QtExtended] or [QtMoko] when you are talking about it? Thanks... I would, but this concerns Om2009 as well I believe, since that still uses QtExtended, but I thought it was going to be on a 2.6.28 kernel as well. Or maybe they do the bluetooth stuff not from qtextended? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qt moko] Re: Bluetooth and 2.6.28
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:26:57 +0200 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: to crash upon suspend/unsuspend. So after a resume, we need to manually restart the daemon. No big deal here, but since the daemon died, it seems qtextended no longer reregisters a bluetooth passkey agent when we relaunch hcid. As a result no pairings are possible anymore. So in short: hcid can't die :-) what about shutting down hci in a controlled way before suspending or stopping/restarting the whole bt subsystem (/etc/init.d/bluetooth [stop|start]) upon suspend|resume? tried it all, but still nothing. Since there's no passkey agent anymore, all pairing fails. Weird though, since it worked ok in 2.6.24 I believe, so I wonder why hcid starts to crash. I know also that 2.6.2 kernels should work with bluetoothd (bluez4), but my knowledge of qtextended and bluetooth version 3/4 is way too limited to try and fix qtextended to use bluez4. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth and 2.6.28
Om2009, FSO and SHR are using bluez4 and 2.6.29 kernel. On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 15:23, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:19:59 +0200 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Can you prefix topics with [QtExtended] or [QtMoko] when you are talking about it? Thanks... I would, but this concerns Om2009 as well I believe, since that still uses QtExtended, but I thought it was going to be on a 2.6.28 kernel as well. Or maybe they do the bluetooth stuff not from qtextended? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Arora web browser (Qt issue?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Nope, not really - but it is stylus friendly :) greetings, Erik Nicola Mfb schrieb: 2009/4/13 Erik Andresen e...@vontaene.de: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [...] This brings to me another question: how to force killing applications under e? I launch xkill under LXDE. Is LXDE finger friendly? I cannot test it just now. Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - -- Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. - -- George Santayana -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknjQTkACgkQ8NqlQQxmej433QCfZ0Lrc5HuuOAQYqjhUH1y14VW Xh8An2XjcC+TNmh3ydJAnTvBoDP9I+n5 =3Nn9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth and 2.6.28
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:37:42 +0200 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Om2009, FSO and SHR are using bluez4 and 2.6.29 kernel. On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 15:23, Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:19:59 +0200 Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: Can you prefix topics with [QtExtended] or [QtMoko] when you are talking about it? Thanks... I would, but this concerns Om2009 as well I believe, since that still uses QtExtended, but I thought it was going to be on a 2.6.28 kernel as well. Or maybe they do the bluetooth stuff not from qtextended? Franky ok, so what is (or will be) Om2009 using for bluetooth application-wise? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
no ssh on latest fso-nox or console images
Hi, when I try to flash the latest unstable fso-nox or fso-console images, ssh is no longer possible. Of course, a console only-phone without ssh doesn't do that much :-) Upon first boot, the ssh keys are made (seen it happen on the bootscreen), but upon second boot: no ssh. What I do see on the console when connecting the usb cable is this: usb curlim to 1000 mA, so it detects the cable. Any hints on getting ssh back working? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] problems with debian and u-boot
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 12:33:52PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: now, when i try to start it, either by pressing the power button alone, or going through the nand menu, i get an error about 'wrong format' of a partition. i'm assuming this is to do with the fat/ext issue for the kernel, but as i followed the instructions to use an ext partition, i'm not sure what's wrong. it feels like i'm missing something silly - i got this working last year Make sure the kernel is on a partition completely below 4 GB or use a U-Boot built with this patch: https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-March/009573.html FWIW, even with the above patch, I'm having no success getting U-Boot to read a kernel from a 1 GB partition starting at 6 GB. I'm trying to debug it, though. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Hi, Here is the latest version of intone - 0.30. I've basically moved all lists to genlists and things have speeded up a little. Also lots of bug fixes - largely due to feedback from Yogiz and The Digital Pioneer. As always, feedback is more than welcome! intone_0.30_arm.ipk -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.20---alpha-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2628408.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone lockup
Hi, Is it really? opkg remove removes the intone_song.db as well would be my guess. Well, I thought I'd removed the db from the ipkg in v .24. Anyhow - that's the only possibility - so Yogiz is right. I've posted a new version - try that out - should fix some more things (and maybe break a few ;-) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-lockup-tp2618845p2628428.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
c_c Again, very nice. I'm running with PaulTT's mplayer which includes tremor, and performance is awesome. Python/intone CPU load is ~4%, and mplayer is ~9% when playing MP3's; ~4% and ~12% for ogg files. Fantastic work to both you and PaulTT. Cameron On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:10 PM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Here is the latest version of intone - 0.30. I've basically moved all lists to genlists and things have speeded up a little. Also lots of bug fixes - largely due to feedback from Yogiz and The Digital Pioneer. As always, feedback is more than welcome! intone_0.30_arm.ipk -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.20---alpha-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2628408.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
Hi, Glad you liked it! Python/intone CPU load is ~4%, and mplayer is ~9% when playing MP3's; ~4% and ~12% for ogg files. BTW - Intone is written in C and uses elementary - perhaps the biggest reason why its fast enough. Rasterman and co deserve kudos for their work on elementary too! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.30---beta-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2628588.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone (0.20 - alpha release) Elementary based mplayer frontend
ack, error on my part. I was working on some python here and forgot that intone was in C. Thanks for the reminder! Cameron On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:48 PM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Glad you liked it! Python/intone CPU load is ~4%, and mplayer is ~9% when playing MP3's; ~4% and ~12% for ogg files. BTW - Intone is written in C and uses elementary - perhaps the biggest reason why its fast enough. Rasterman and co deserve kudos for their work on elementary too! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-%280.30---beta-release%29-Elementary-based-mplayer-frontend-tp2587826p2628588.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 05:14:03PM +0100, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: for your Q about project files instead of pdf: OM is making money by selling hw, so there's not much sense in publishing data that doesn't help EE guys in community to understand the hw but instead is only needed for production purposes. In the end you can't do anything on a single-device basis with layout or schem proj data you couldn't do without it. Or are you the guy who's etching 8-layer at home and soldering uBGA by hand? ;-) You can't patch a ready-done 8layer PCB, no matter what your document files are (sw POV on hw!). Actually, it would be useful to know which signals are available from a trace on the surface. With only the schematics and component placement available, you're pretty much out of luck unless the signal happens to be available at a test point, resistor, capacitor or some other component with exposed terminals. The Big-C buzz fix is an example of a mod which makes use of a surface trace. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a year ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
'dead' neo
Hi all, I want to 'revive' my 'neo' but as expected battery is completly empty .. so no recharge possible. I was looking for the cheapest way to put some charge in the device so it can work again. I was thinking about buying a new and compatible battery and charge again, but which batteries are compatible and can be found easily ? Other suggestions perhaps ? Thx W ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 'dead' neo
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:56:47 +0200 wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wrote: Hi all, I want to 'revive' my 'neo' but as expected battery is completly empty .. so no recharge possible. I was looking for the cheapest way to put some charge in the device so it can work again. I was thinking about buying a new and compatible battery and charge again, but which batteries are compatible and can be found easily ? Other suggestions perhaps ? connect the usb to your pc, press and hold aux and then press the power button, that should give you the NOR boot menu, where you can select boot ... that worked for me in the past. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Hardware fix in the US?
Is anyone in the US willing to perform the current list of hardware fixes on the gta02? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth and 2.6.28
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:09:47 +0200 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/13 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be: [...[ The version 3.33 dies upon suspend/resume. Maybe 3.36 doesn't, but that package isn't available somewhere (not for shr, nor for fso). So I can either use QtMoko, or ask if somebody can provide updated 3.36 packages of the bluez-3 implementation? Try this: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=bluez-utils unfortunately that gives me an empty page (no search results). I already browsed through the angstrom package feeds before, but only found older versions at that time. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 'dead' neo
On Monday 13 April 2009 18:56:47 wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wrote: Hi all, I want to 'revive' my 'neo' but as expected battery is completly empty .. so no recharge possible. I was looking for the cheapest way to put some charge in the device so it can work again. I was thinking about buying a new and compatible battery and charge again, but which batteries are compatible and can be found easily ? Other suggestions perhaps ? Thx W AFAIK the newer kernels should be able to boot just from the USB power so try connecting the FR to the charger, booting up without the battery in and replacing it when the FR has booted up fully. Also I remember reading somewhere about booting into the NOR u-boot and pressing the AUX button to keep it awake for a few minutes till it had charged enough to boot the OS. hope this helps, solar.george (the booting off just USB works on a recent shr testing but I can't speak for anything earlier) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 'dead' neo
Hi! Neo can be booted without battery at all, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Hardware_Issues Can't boot with discharged or missing battery 5 In short: 1. remove battery 2. press AUX 3. insert usb-cable 4. release AUX (yes, only now) 5. press AUX+POWER to boot in nor menu 6. boot your neo 7. insert battery - begin charging it On Monday 13 April 2009 20:56:47 wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wrote: Hi all, I want to 'revive' my 'neo' but as expected battery is completly empty .. so no recharge possible. I was looking for the cheapest way to put some charge in the device so it can work again. I was thinking about buying a new and compatible battery and charge again, but which batteries are compatible and can be found easily ? Other suggestions perhaps ? Thx W ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 'dead' neo
Hi franky, 'Van liedekerke' sound flemish ... are you ? It is the Neo (not the freerunner). it only has a power button AFAIK ... W On Monday 13 April 2009 20:04:58 Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:56:47 +0200 wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com wrote: Hi all, I want to 'revive' my 'neo' but as expected battery is completly empty .. so no recharge possible. I was looking for the cheapest way to put some charge in the device so it can work again. I was thinking about buying a new and compatible battery and charge again, but which batteries are compatible and can be found easily ? Other suggestions perhaps ? connect the usb to your pc, press and hold aux and then press the power button, that should give you the NOR boot menu, where you can select boot ... that worked for me in the past. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 'dead' neo
I have recently been in the same situation, the battery was completely dead. I bought BL-6C Battery for Nokia 6235 6236i 6255 6255i 6256i on eBay from the seller thamesmall, along with the wall charger Nokia 6300 bl-5c bl-4c bl-6c Battery Charger Cradle USB from the seller joybuy24, $12 altogether. FR started fine. Have neither tried the charger with the original battery, nor compared the battery life with the original one. Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 'dead' neo
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau maxpose...@gmail.com wrote: Neo can be booted without battery at all, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Hardware_Issues Can't boot with discharged or missing battery 5 In short: 1. remove battery 2. press AUX 3. insert usb-cable 4. release AUX (yes, only now) 5. press AUX+POWER to boot in nor menu 6. boot your neo 7. insert battery - begin charging it No that's for the freerunner, doesn't work with the Neo AFAIK, which will make nasty noises and probably fry something if you connect USB without a battery installed. You should be able to install the battery, then without touching any buttons plug it into USB, and let it charge overnight at the 100mA rate. Next day (or maybe just in a couple hours) there will be enough charge to boot and then charge some more in fast mode. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth and 2.6.28
2009/4/13 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be: [...] Try this: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=bluez-utils unfortunately that gives me an empty page (no search results). I already browsed through the angstrom package feeds before, but only found older versions at that time. Umh. it seems there is a problem with the package browser, but feeds are accessible, get it at: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/bluez-utils_3.36-r4.1_armv4t.ipk Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Building a PMP.
(these instructions suppose you'd better buy a PMP and flash it with Rockbox firmware http://rockbox.org . for those who are more perverted read on) Was able to build a very simple PMP with an Asus EeePC 901 with Debian GNU/Linux as a player and a OpenMoko Freerunner with SHR as a remote. 1. Install mpd on EeePc (apt-get install mpd), configure it. http://musicpd.org 2. Install pythm on Freerunner(opkg install pythm). 3. Establish either a USB cable(uncomfortable, you have to deal with at least one cable: the one between Eee and OM, or worse(the usual) with two: addition from Eee to your headphones) or wireless Bluetooth(http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Using was the hardest thing for me, but truly worked) or wireless wifi connection between Eee and OM. 4. Configure pythm to use mpd editing /etc/pythm.conf on your OM. Could not find graphical configuration dialog. 5. Test it. 6. Should run smoothly. 7. Put Eee into a bag behind your back, connect your headphones to it. 8. Put your OM into a pocket, or on some part of your bicycle. 9. Ride your bike in the streets and impress your friends. Why listen from Eee and not from OM? Your battery will not last much after you ask it to play music. Additionally sound quality from Eee should be better(not tested) than from OM. Was inspired by friend who listened music from his Nokia N#Whatevernumberitwas for more than four hours. On Eee launch a script that will do an infinite loop to connect a PAN network with your OM. And on your Freerunner a script that will do an infinite loop of python-agent script presented on bluetooth SHR web page. Do not forget to enable bt in shr-settings. These two infinite loops will enable you to suspend your phone without any problem but remember that it is better to restart pythm after the phone returns from suspend or it will take _much_more_time to reconnect to mpd. Using Eee as a player instead of OM will increase both the time you will be able to listen to music as well as you will save battery of Freerunner and the storage available for music. Thank you. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Om2009 testing images
As part of the Om2009 release plan testing images were going to start at the beginning of April. For those brave souls that would like to help us test Paroli, FSO milestone 5.5 and the Om2009.1 kernel there is a Om2009 information page that contains links to the images and flashing instructions [1]. The wiki page also has the features list and know issues. Bugs can be submitted here[2]. Bugs can be filed against the Om2009 milestone and please check for duplicates with this tag before submitting the bug. Angus [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 [2] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Vala-Terminal Black Background
Hi. I strongly prefer white-on-black for terminals, and vala-terminal went and changed back to a white background. Right now that is severely annoying since my text is still white. How do I make the BG black again? Also, I'd like to bump the default text size down a setting or two. Is that possible? -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Hardware fix in the US?
I would also be interested in this, I am having a hard time finding someone who is willing to even touch the gta02 even with the printed PDF that I was reffed to because of the machine solder points on it On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Lon Lentz lon.le...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone in the US willing to perform the current list of hardware fixes on the gta02? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 testing images
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: As part of the Om2009 release plan testing images were going to start at the beginning of April. For those brave souls that would like to help us test Paroli, FSO milestone 5.5 and the Om2009.1 kernel there is a Om2009 information page that contains links to the images and flashing instructions [1]. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 [2] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ Great, thank you for this. Just started to download, let's see what it looks like etc :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 'dead' neo
2009/4/14 wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com: I want to 'revive' my 'neo' but as expected battery is completly empty .. so no recharge possible. I was looking for the cheapest way to put some charge in the device so it can work again. I was thinking about buying a new and compatible battery and charge again, but which batteries are compatible and can be found easily ? Other suggestions perhaps ? personally, i've never had any problems booting it as i normally boot, while connected to my pc by usb. it usually takes a couple of attempts, but no need to mess around with spare nokia batteries, nor boot or any other tricks. i just plug it in, boot through nand and away it goes this is running 2008.12, with the stock kernel, and u-boot from last year i think ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] problems with debian and u-boot
2009/4/14 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 12:33:52PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: now, when i try to start it, either by pressing the power button alone, or going through the nand menu, i get an error about 'wrong format' of a partition. i'm assuming this is to do with the fat/ext issue for the kernel, but as i followed the instructions to use an ext partition, i'm not sure what's wrong. it feels like i'm missing something silly - i got this working last year Make sure the kernel is on a partition completely below 4 GB or use a U-Boot built with this patch: https://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2009-March/009573.html agh, that's why. it was on an 8gb partition. i must have missed that in the debian documentation/om wiki FWIW, even with the above patch, I'm having no success getting U-Boot to read a kernel from a 1 GB partition starting at 6 GB. I'm trying to debug it, though. using qi now, but not tried to boot debian yet. cheers rask ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 'dead' neo -- IT IS ALIVE, IT IS ALIVE !!! ... thanx all
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 01:02:23 Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/4/14 wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com: I want to 'revive' my 'neo' but as expected battery is completly empty .. so no recharge possible. I was looking for the cheapest way to put some charge in the device so it can work again. I was thinking about buying a new and compatible battery and charge again, but which batteries are compatible and can be found easily ? Other suggestions perhaps ? personally, i've never had any problems booting it as i normally boot, while connected to my pc by usb. it usually takes a couple of attempts, but no need to mess around with spare nokia batteries, nor boot or any other tricks. i just plug it in, boot through nand and away it goes this is running 2008.12, with the stock kernel, and u-boot from last year i think ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Slashdotted
Am Mo 13. April 2009 schrieb Rask Ingemann Lambertsen: On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 05:14:03PM +0100, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: You can't patch a ready-done 8layer PCB, no matter what your document files are (sw POV on hw!). Actually, it would be useful to know which signals are available from a trace on the surface. With only the schematics and component placement available, you're pretty much out of luck unless the signal happens to be available at a test point, resistor, capacitor or some other component with exposed terminals. The Big-C buzz fix is an example of a mod which makes use of a surface trace. Not exactly. As virtually all you got on surface traces is GND, nothing else. So buzzfix is using GND and component contacts only. And there's not very much to know about this topic. Otherwise I would have published it. cheers jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone lockup
Am Mo 13. April 2009 schrieb c_c: Hi, Is it really? opkg remove removes the intone_song.db as well would be my guess. Well, I thought I'd removed the db from the ipkg in v .24. Anyhow - that's the only possibility - so Yogiz is right. I've posted a new version - try that out - should fix some more things (and maybe break a few ;-) Please mark quotes! /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 'dead' neo
Am Mo 13. April 2009 schrieb Shawn Rutledge: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau maxpose...@gmail.com wrote: Neo can be booted without battery at all, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_Hardware_Issues Can't boot with discharged or missing battery 5 In short: 1. remove battery 2. press AUX 3. insert usb-cable 4. release AUX (yes, only now) 5. press AUX+POWER to boot in nor menu 6. boot your neo 7. insert battery - begin charging it No that's for the freerunner, doesn't work with the Neo AFAIK, which will make nasty noises and probably fry something if you connect USB without a battery installed. Yes, it's absolutely forbidden to operate Neo1973 (GTA01) without battery. Especially removing bat while charging is known to fry PMU. Search mailing list archives for scream of death /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone lockup
Hi, Please mark quotes! /j Uh Oh! I thought the nabble ML quoting got magically transformed to text quoting too. Will keep that in mind. Thanks. BTW is this better? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-lockup-tp2618845p2630717.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone lockup
2009/4/14 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: Please mark quotes! /j Uh Oh! I thought the nabble ML quoting got magically transformed to text quoting too. Will keep that in mind. Thanks. BTW is this better? yes! fortunately, gmail marks quoted text in purple, instead of black, so your mails read ok here. other clients may not, though ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
latest qt-embedded image
Hi all, sorry to ask this question 'again' but I have been following this list with half-an-eye so I am not sure which i should take. Could anybody point me to the latest kernel and qt-embedded image that can run on the NEO 1973 () so not on the Freerunner !!! Or can all images run on the neo1973 (GTA01) (I have read a message that some snapshots do not work but that might be old news) Is there any WIKI-or-not page I can check upon regularly to find newest images ? Thx W ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Bluetooth error
Dear community, I am trying to pair the neo1973 with a virtual keyboard via command line and I receive an error. I am using http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth. The command line extract is: r...@om-gta01:/etc/bluetooth# hidd --search Searching ... Connecting to device 00:0D:3C:40:86:8C Can't get device information: Function not implemented Does anyone have a clue on this? Where are the log files? I could not find any. Thank you very much. -- Pablo Miño ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
