Re: Om2009 testing release 5
El Friday, 19 de June de 2009 10:26:28 Risto H. Kurppa va escriure: On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Jose Luis Perez Diezperezd...@gmail.com wrote: El Thursday, 18 de June de 2009 22:52:30 Steven Le Roux va escriure: Another feedback : After a while, receiving a call make paroli buging , the phone is vibrating endless. (infinite loop ?) I can't stop it, and have to put the battery off. It happens after a suspend. with any contact. It's just that I can say for the moment... sorry keeping the search... I did this same test this morning with the same results but I keept it vibrating until I arrived at work to copy /var/log/* and the output of logread to a pc. I stoped the buzz calling reboot from ssh ;( I will try to reproduce it with a plain testing release 5. Please post the logs to http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/ with the bug rep!! I think from reading the logs that this isue is the same than the one on http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/ticket/192 In my case the culprit was speech-dispatcher (from navit). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMaze - Mokomaze 0.2 for Qt Extended
Fabio Locati wrote: I compiled it but when I try to exec it, it returns QtMaze was terminated due to application error. The only thing that can cause the error is changed path to data files (.json). Now the game checks only _local_ directory etc/qtmaze/. I suppose that after embedding the game into image, .json files must appear in /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/etc/qtmaze/ directory. But it seems that /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/ is not a current directory for the game, so etc/qtmaze/ can't be found. It is needed to know where data files are really placed, and patch some lines of a code to search for them there. OR data files can be built into game's executable as a resources, but it is worse. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtMaze---Mokomaze-0.2-for-Qt-Extended-tp3129539p3132044.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Community Updates] # 4.3 Wishlist
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: Hi, Recently someone added point 4.3 Wishlist of wiki. My opinion about this : I think it is not appropriate place to place whish list herein. Community Updates were designed to inform users and community of OM/FR about what is going on with OM/FR. This is not a discussion board to talk what would you like to have in your FR. According to above, whishlist should be transfered to another/new part of wiki, or to mailing list. Thus, if there will be no response for my consideration about this during next few days from author of this point, or from others, I intend to remove this point from wiki. LeadMan. Now i would like to know what do you think about that? Am i correct or wrong? I fully agree, the 'wishlist' is no informative to the community (instead there can be a link in the Community Updates telling that 'There's been a new general wishlist page created', if someone want's that..) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMaze - Mokomaze 0.2 for Qt Extended
Thank you ANT :) I have now the phone away (they are putting the buzz fix and the bass fix). As soon as it will come back, I'll test it again :) On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:04 PM, ANTant0...@gmail.com wrote: Fabio Locati wrote: I compiled it but when I try to exec it, it returns QtMaze was terminated due to application error. The only thing that can cause the error is changed path to data files (.json). Now the game checks only _local_ directory etc/qtmaze/. I suppose that after embedding the game into image, .json files must appear in /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/etc/qtmaze/ directory. But it seems that /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/ is not a current directory for the game, so etc/qtmaze/ can't be found. It is needed to know where data files are really placed, and patch some lines of a code to search for them there. OR data files can be built into game's executable as a resources, but it is worse. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtMaze---Mokomaze-0.2-for-Qt-Extended-tp3129539p3132044.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Community Updates] # 4.3 Wishlist
Agree too. But no matter where the wish list being displayed, the core is to encourage feeding back. Also, release plans and votes help focusing on key problems. Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: Hi, Recently someone added point 4.3 Wishlist of wiki. My opinion about this : I think it is not appropriate place to place whish list herein. Community Updates were designed to inform users and community of OM/FR about what is going on with OM/FR. This is not a discussion board to talk what would you like to have in your FR. According to above, whishlist should be transfered to another/new part of wiki, or to mailing list. Thus, if there will be no response for my consideration about this during next few days from author of this point, or from others, I intend to remove this point from wiki. LeadMan. Now i would like to know what do you think about that? Am i correct or wrong? I fully agree, the 'wishlist' is no informative to the community (instead there can be a link in the Community Updates telling that 'There's been a new general wishlist page created', if someone want's that..) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Community-Updates4.3-Wishlist-tp3132057p3132190.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
input method : dasher
Hi, At the end of this article [1], there's a comment about Dasher [2]. It's a strange but simple funny input method that can be very fast (39 words per minute). Dasher support numerous languages and the source code is open. A version for mobile device (ARMv4 / Windows Mobile) is in developed by Glen Femandes. Do you think Dasher can be useful for the Neo Freerunner ? [1] http://lwn.net/Articles/336787/ [2] http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ -- swap38 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: input method : dasher
Yes, this is nice! I've tried it (I think) on KDE long time ago and it'd be interesting to try it as an alternative input method for freerunner.. If someone want's to port it I'm ready to test it! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
elmdentica release 0.0.1
As some of you may know, I’m writing an identi.ca client with Elementary for the OpenMoko. This, is it’s first release. It’s almost totally unusable, right now, in great part due to a documentation that could be better (I’m looking at you, Elementary...), but you can already get a gist of what is can do. Anyway, in the interest of release early, release often, here’s a first working release, 0.0.1: * elmdentica-0.1.0.tar.gz (elmdentica-0.1.0.tar.gz.asc) * elmdentica_0.0.1-r4_armv4t.ipk (elmdentica_0.0.1-r4_armv4t.ipk.asc) (at http://code.google.com/p/elmdentica ) I won’t hope you enjoy because it’s really crappy, now, but it loads in a jiffy :) http://blog.1407.org/2009/06/22/elmdentica-release-001/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elmdentica release 0.0.1
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: As some of you may know, I’m writing an identi.ca client with Elementary for the OpenMoko. This, is it’s first release. It’s almost totally unusable, right now, in great part due to a documentation that could be better (I’m looking at you, Elementary...), but you can already get a gist of what is can do. Anyway, in the interest of release early, release often, here’s a first working release, 0.0.1: * elmdentica-0.1.0.tar.gz (elmdentica-0.1.0.tar.gz.asc) * elmdentica_0.0.1-r4_armv4t.ipk (elmdentica_0.0.1-r4_armv4t.ipk.asc) (at http://code.google.com/p/elmdentica ) I won’t hope you enjoy because it’s really crappy, now, but it loads in a jiffy :) http://blog.1407.org/2009/06/22/elmdentica-release-001/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Very willing to use your app. But it even fails to start on SHR-unstable lastest, the error is: elmdentica: error while loading shared libraries: libelementary.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or director signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elmdentica release 0.0.1
Very nice! I was able to run it on OM2009 but wasn't able to post.. I configured the username pw and tried but no messages on stdout or GUI.. Anyway, a nice start! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elmdentica release 0.0.1
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 04:50:02PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: I was able to run it on OM2009 but wasn't able to post.. I configured the username pw and tried but no messages on stdout or GUI.. It doesn't do any error checking (in the sense of bad login credentials, etc). Did you set up a ~/.netrc file as documented at http://code.google.com/p/elmdentica/wiki/NetRc Yes, got it. I removed the white spaces or pw and user lines and replaced with tabs but no help (http://identi.ca/rhk) Please add some debug information on the stdout to help to see what's happening. Thanks! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: input method : dasher
If you use Debian on your Neo, a dasher package is available. It works, but the animations are unbearably slow. I don't know if there are options compiled in that we don't need. There are surely some optimizations that can be done... Several of the command line options failed as well. I believe one of the ones that doesn't work is the one that would make dasher usable as a keyboard on the Neo. The default start mode opens dasher as a sort of text editor. So, the characters you type go into a text field instead of whatever app you want to type in... I think there is an option that would make it act more like a regular keyboard, sending key events. -Steven On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:55 AM, swap38swa...@openmoko-fr.org wrote: Hi, At the end of this article [1], there's a comment about Dasher [2]. It's a strange but simple funny input method that can be very fast (39 words per minute). Dasher support numerous languages and the source code is open. A version for mobile device (ARMv4 / Windows Mobile) is in developed by Glen Femandes. Do you think Dasher can be useful for the Neo Freerunner ? [1] http://lwn.net/Articles/336787/ [2] http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ -- swap38 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone
mobi phil m...@mobiphil.com writes: trivial functions. I think carrying Xwindows is the biggest mistake. I It's X Windows System, X Version 11, X11 or simply X. Also, feel free to not use X if you don't want. I don't see how that'd be difficult if you only need a simple dialer. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone
QtMoko ( http://qtmoko.org ) does not use X ;) On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Timo Juhani Lindforstimo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: mobi phil m...@mobiphil.com writes: trivial functions. I think carrying Xwindows is the biggest mistake. I It's X Windows System, X Version 11, X11 or simply X. Also, feel free to not use X if you don't want. I don't see how that'd be difficult if you only need a simple dialer. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elmdentica release 0.0.1
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:43:23PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 04:50:02PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: I was able to run it on OM2009 but wasn't able to post.. I configured the username pw and tried but no messages on stdout or GUI.. It doesn't do any error checking (in the sense of bad login credentials, etc). Did you set up a ~/.netrc file as documented at http://code.google.com/p/elmdentica/wiki/NetRc Yes, got it. I removed the white spaces or pw and user lines and replaced with tabs but no help (http://identi.ca/rhk) Please add some debug information on the stdout to help to see what's happening. It appears identi.ca doesn't answer with an http error as well so I'll need to get a grip on their possible errors. If they all look like ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? hash errorCould not authenticate you./error request/api/statuses/friends_timeline.xml/request /hash Then it's easy to do something about it (if (strncmp(name,hash,4) == 0) ... Rui -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Update Who is who on wiki
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:50:14 +0200 Fabian Killus fab...@ji-xiansheng.de wrote: As proposed before on this list it would be a good idea to update the information at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Who_is_Who. While I am afraid to touch this page directly, here is what I would have so far: I went ahead and wiki-fied the list we have at the moment - I think it'll speed things up a lot. Please get stuck in and fix the many glaring errors and omissions: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Who_is_Who Tom -- Thomas White t...@bitwiz.org.uk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone
that is why I vote for QT :) and I ment X11 sorry for offending you by using my jargon :), however there are at least *4,200,000* results on google for Xwindows, so I think one could understand the point :) On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Fabio Locati fabioloc...@gmail.com wrote: QtMoko ( http://qtmoko.org ) does not use X ;) On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Timo Juhani Lindforstimo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: mobi phil m...@mobiphil.com writes: trivial functions. I think carrying Xwindows is the biggest mistake. I It's X Windows System, X Version 11, X11 or simply X. Also, feel free to not use X if you don't want. I don't see how that'd be difficult if you only need a simple dialer. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- being mobile, but including technology http://mobiphil.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Update Who is who on wiki
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Fabian Killusfab...@ji-xiansheng.de wrote: [...] As proposed before on this list it would be a good idea to update the information at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Who_is_Who. [...] We need to signal also: *) what they needs (help, developers, donations, hardware...) *) peoples that have some ideas to start new projects and requires help For example I have a quite good knowledge of the QT libraries but the freerunner development seems to go on different way. I have some small and dirty coded self made applications on my freerunner, a launcher, virtual network keyboard to control a remote linux box, an EWMH window manager helper, a simple dbus wpa_supplicant wifi manager, an incomplete/buggy but quite working bt/obex manager. As I'm alone and QT seems not so used on the freerunner, these will stay unreleased, I'd like to request helps to other Qt guys to complete them and collaborate on new projects. May that page be used for that too or should we create a specific one? Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freedom Redfined.
Community, As many of you know may 25th was my last official day at Openmoko. Since that time I have been focused on two things: First, putting my Openmoko business in order. There were several tasks that got cut off midstream by the layoff and I felt I owed it to the community to see those jobs through to some sort of conclusion. Having relied on volunteer work from the community for so long, it only seemed right that I contribute. I wanted to see the buzz fix program successfully implemented both in the EU and in North America. With help from Dr. Schaller, SDG, and Sean I was able to get that done. Next on my list was the GTA02 core project. When we canceled the GTA03 Werner and others started a community effort to do a phone design that was completely community driven. That's no small task, but it keeps the dream alive so I will continue to support it. On that front, we have met with some success. Building Open Source hardware requires money at some stage, money to buy parts and money to build prototypes. Openmoko has graciously agreed to donate some components to the project and I've put Werner in contact with people who can help with the prototype runs. It's still early and there is a lot of work to do, so pitch in if you can. I also wanted to see the foundation work kicked off. And lastly I tried to find some of my Openmoko friends employment which brings me to the second major thing I have been working on: Starting a new company. Wolfgang has alluded to this in a previous post and now is a good time to let you all know what we have been up to since late May. In the coming days as we get the web page together and lists set up I'll make some announcements and blog about the company and its mission. The key elements are 1. Using existing hardware rather than designing new hardware. 2. Focusing the software effort below the user levels, 3. targeting the linux developer community. The most important thing from our perspective is that there is no conflict with OM. Wolfgang and I met with Sean on Saturday and explained our plan. OM will focus on Project B so there won't be any conflict. We also agreed that in the future the two companies will be able to find ways to work together with OM perhaps picking up some of our products and applying their focus-- Industrial design and user interface. I'll be back to announce the name of the company in the coming week or so as we build out the web page. You can write me here or at my personal gmail account. (moshersteven@) Best Regards All, Steve. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freedom Redfined.
Wow !!! I'm very curious to listen more. I wish you a bright future for you and your new company. Giovanni On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote: Community, As many of you know may 25th was my last official day at Openmoko. Since that time I have been focused on two things: First, putting my Openmoko business in order. There were several tasks that got cut off midstream by the layoff and I felt I owed it to the community to see those jobs through to some sort of conclusion. Having relied on volunteer work from the community for so long, it only seemed right that I contribute. I wanted to see the buzz fix program successfully implemented both in the EU and in North America. With help from Dr. Schaller, SDG, and Sean I was able to get that done. Next on my list was the GTA02 core project. When we canceled the GTA03 Werner and others started a community effort to do a phone design that was completely community driven. That's no small task, but it keeps the dream alive so I will continue to support it. On that front, we have met with some success. Building Open Source hardware requires money at some stage, money to buy parts and money to build prototypes. Openmoko has graciously agreed to donate some components to the project and I've put Werner in contact with people who can help with the prototype runs. It's still early and there is a lot of work to do, so pitch in if you can. I also wanted to see the foundation work kicked off. And lastly I tried to find some of my Openmoko friends employment which brings me to the second major thing I have been working on: Starting a new company. Wolfgang has alluded to this in a previous post and now is a good time to let you all know what we have been up to since late May. In the coming days as we get the web page together and lists set up I'll make some announcements and blog about the company and its mission. The key elements are 1. Using existing hardware rather than designing new hardware. 2. Focusing the software effort below the user levels, 3. targeting the linux developer community. The most important thing from our perspective is that there is no conflict with OM. Wolfgang and I met with Sean on Saturday and explained our plan. OM will focus on Project B so there won't be any conflict. We also agreed that in the future the two companies will be able to find ways to work together with OM perhaps picking up some of our products and applying their focus-- Industrial design and user interface. I'll be back to announce the name of the company in the coming week or so as we build out the web page. You can write me here or at my personal gmail account. (moshersteven@) Best Regards All, Steve. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)
On Monday 22 June 2009, mobi phil wrote: I think carrying Xwindows is the biggest mistake. I personally encourage QT or new start with gtk on top of www.directfb.org/, so that gtk based interfaces can be reused... By the way did anybody consider gtk with directfb as direction? Or I am wrong and the bottleneck is not really Xwindows? This has been discussed _many_ times before. Those with extensive experience in this area have said X is not the bottleneck. I've just dug out a few of Raster's comments: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-April/046056.html http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-November/035825.html http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2008-February/001924.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Update Who is who on wiki
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Nicola Mfbnicola@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Fabian Killusfab...@ji-xiansheng.de wrote: [...] As proposed before on this list it would be a good idea to update the information at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Who_is_Who. [...] We need to signal also: *) what they needs (help, developers, donations, hardware...) *) peoples that have some ideas to start new projects and requires help For example I have a quite good knowledge of the QT libraries but the freerunner development seems to go on different way. I have some small and dirty coded self made applications on my freerunner, a launcher, virtual network keyboard to control a remote linux box, an EWMH window manager helper, a simple dbus wpa_supplicant wifi manager, an incomplete/buggy but quite working bt/obex manager. As I'm alone and QT seems not so used on the freerunner, these will stay unreleased, I'd like to request helps to other Qt guys to complete them and collaborate on new projects. May that page be used for that too or should we create a specific one? There is QtMoko ( http://qtmoko.org ) ;) Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freedom Redfined.
Indeed, we're interested to see where this will take us. Please try to do it better this time with the community! I wish you all the best luck. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freedom Redfined.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Indeed, we're interested to see where this will take us. Please try to do it better this time with the community! I wish you all the best luck. Its so nice to know that OM will get more strong backing because the community has matured but without a company backing, its not easy to manage things. Wish you best of luck and we will do as much as possble. Keep it up. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Shaz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: elmdentica release 0.0.1
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:40:03PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 05:43:23PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 04:50:02PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: I was able to run it on OM2009 but wasn't able to post.. I configured the username pw and tried but no messages on stdout or GUI.. It doesn't do any error checking (in the sense of bad login credentials, etc). Did you set up a ~/.netrc file as documented at http://code.google.com/p/elmdentica/wiki/NetRc Yes, got it. I removed the white spaces or pw and user lines and replaced with tabs but no help (http://identi.ca/rhk) Please add some debug information on the stdout to help to see what's happening. It appears identi.ca doesn't answer with an http error as well so I'll need to get a grip on their possible errors. If they all look like ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? hash errorCould not authenticate you./error request/api/statuses/friends_timeline.xml/request /hash Then it's easy to do something about it (if (strncmp(name,hash,4) == 0) ... It now supports this type of answers (displays a window with the error and the request), so maybe you could check wether it's some auth problem? http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica_0.0.2-r1_armv4t.ipk Rui -- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-U] GoPhone Alerts
Hey, I have an ATT GoPhone plan, and that means I pay for each call individually. On a normal phone, you get an alert after each call saying how much that call cost and how much money is left in your account. I had these alerts work once, but the next upgrade and they failed. Is there any way to get those back? They were really quite handy... I'm not sure what kind of protocol they used, just that they popped up in a window described as Service Data. Apparently it isn't SMS. -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] GoPhone Alerts
On Tuesday 23 June 2009, The Digital Pioneer wrote: Hey, I have an ATT GoPhone plan, and that means I pay for each call individually. On a normal phone, you get an alert after each call saying how much that call cost and how much money is left in your account. I had these alerts work once, but the next upgrade and they failed. Is there any way to get those back? They were really quite handy... I'm not sure what kind of protocol they used, just that they popped up in a window described as Service Data. Apparently it isn't SMS. Sounds like USSD. Someone said they started receiving them after having once sent the code to request their account balance. If that doesn't work you could listen for the IncommingUssd signal in case nothing else is listening for it. http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network.html;hb=HEAD#IncomingUssd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMaze - Mokomaze 0.2 for Qt Extended
ext Fabio Locati wrote: Thank you ANT :) I have now the phone away (they are putting the buzz fix and the bass fix). As soon as it will come back, I'll test it again :) On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 12:04 PM, ANTant0...@gmail.com wrote: Fabio Locati wrote: I compiled it but when I try to exec it, it returns QtMaze was terminated due to application error. The only thing that can cause the error is changed path to data files (.json). Now the game checks only _local_ directory etc/qtmaze/. I suppose that after embedding the game into image, .json files must appear in /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/etc/qtmaze/ directory. But it seems that /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/ is not a current directory for the game, so etc/qtmaze/ can't be found. It is needed to know where data files are really placed, and patch some lines of a code to search for them there. OR data files can be built into game's executable as a resources, but it is worse. Qtopia::qtopiaDir() is base directory where Qtopia files are installed. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)
Am Montag 22 Juni 2009 schrieb Ben Wong: I want to thank Joerg for taking the time to give a clear list of reasons why a person might consider the Freerunner unsuitable as a phone. I think it'd be helpful if these and other points were put on the wiki so that potential buyers can see the arguments against the Freerunner, and what the community response is. (E.g., Solved? Kludged? In progress? Unfixable?) Good starting point! I'd like to thank everyone who answered my disgruntled mail in a constructive manner. You all made a good case for the freerunner/openmoko and I appreciate that. I think I see clearer, why I'm so unhappy with it now and maybe that's the case for other people, too. I think, most of the technical answers totally missed my point. The guy wanted a smartphone. He didn't ask for an exiting piece of hardware experimentation lab and developer paradise. If you recommend to tweak this mixer-setting and install that tool and use that kernel-fix, then you prove, that it's not for him. I listed a lot of points, where I got stuck or where I got frustrated with the Freerunner to show, where he might get stuck, too. Granted, most of my points may be solved in distro A or fixed in Kernel B, or fixable by tweaking settings in illume. but the point is, that there is (to my knowledge) not a single distro out there, that works perfectly out of the box and has all the fixes already installed. Thats whats needed, if you want to recommened it to the end-user. You are offering me and this guy single proofs-of-concept, and that is great for further development, but thats not a working everyday smartphone. let me cite another mail (from Vasco Nevoa): Yes, it needs A LOT of attention and tweaking for about 3 months until you get it just right for yourself, but after that it's good enough as a phone and GPS, and a pretty good PDA. See my point? Best wishes! j�...@home ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] GoPhone Alerts
OK, forgive the idiot, but how? I read the link, but I don't know how to use that. I have no experience programming with DBus. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)
that's all quite true. however, allow me to make just one point. this phone is marketed as a developer's phone, and all the websites related to this phone all have (or should have) discussion largely surrounding this. :) On 06/22/09 21:51, Joerg Lippmann wrote: [...] let me cite another mail (from Vasco Nevoa): Yes, it needs A LOT of attention and tweaking for about 3 months until you get it just right for yourself, but after that it's good enough as a phone and GPS, and a pretty good PDA. See my point? Best wishes! j�...@home ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)
Sure, it's a developer phone, and is marketed as such, but what they don't tell you is what kind of developer. When I got mine 6 months ago, I took that to mean applications, not everything about this needs massive help. I think one of the pitfalls for OM was trying to put everything out at once, instead of systematically selecting and stabilizing a kernel, then get the underlying system working, and finally get the UI and useable applications. Now I haven't tried all the distros out there, but from the chatter I read on the maillists, it seems that each are shooting for that moving target in continuing the all at once approach, and predictably coming up short. Don't get me wrong, I love my Freerunner, and it's my daily/only phone (Hackable:1and SHR). I just wish I could spend more time working on applications than messing around with little fixes, rebooting, and waiting for something reasonably stable to develop for. :) On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:05 PM, David Ford wrote: this phone is marketed as a developer's phone, and all the websites related to this phone all have (or should have) discussion largely surrounding this. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone
Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes: It's X Windows System No, it's X Window System -- Esben Stien is b...@e s a http://www. s tn m irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact sip:b0ef@ e e jid:b0ef@n n ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone (was Re: Is a FreeRunner sufficient for me?)
except for ophonekitd being crashy currently, nearly everything else works decently for me. it's stable enough for me to be developing my SMS app for it. honestly, i only do these fixes for issues about once every two to three weeks. there are bugs that others encounter that i've never seen and there are bugs that i have encountered or deal with, that others never see, or they don't impact them. (current shr-unstable) so, at the moment, it's working pretty good and i'm not spending any time fixing anything that -i- didn't break :) -d On 06/22/09 22:42, Damian Spriggs wrote: Sure, it's a developer phone, and is marketed as such, but what they don't tell you is what kind of developer. When I got mine 6 months ago, I took that to mean applications, not everything about this needs massive help. I think one of the pitfalls for OM was trying to put everything out at once, instead of systematically selecting and stabilizing a kernel, then get the underlying system working, and finally get the UI and useable applications. Now I haven't tried all the distros out there, but from the chatter I read on the maillists, it seems that each are shooting for that moving target in continuing the all at once approach, and predictably coming up short. Don't get me wrong, I love my Freerunner, and it's my daily/only phone (Hackable:1and SHR). I just wish I could spend more time working on applications than messing around with little fixes, rebooting, and waiting for something reasonably stable to develop for. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
is 0.4A sufficient for charging?
Hello list, going to buy a device from a local store that will convert alternating current from my bicycle's front hub dynamo to 5V 0.4A. Is that sufficient for charging my Neo? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Why one cannot recommend the freerunner as a daily phone
Esben Stien b...@esben-stien.name writes: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes: It's X Windows System No, it's X Window System Whoops, what a typo :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
