Re: Happy Birthday Freerunner
El Saturday, 4 de July de 2009 16:49:07 Sean Moss-Pultz va escriure: I always forget to say it, but I'm so impressed every time I see you all organize one of these buzz fix parties and user meetings. When things slow down a bit more for me in Taipei, I'll drop by and check one out. The Debconf9 buzz fix party has been scheduled on Saturday the 25th of july. https://penta.debconf.org/dc9_schedule/events/376.en.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] navit install problems
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jeffrey Ratcliffejeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote: It works if you set up a swapfile. Having to set up a swap file for an .ipk file of 3M in size still seems unreasonable... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
On Sunday 05 July 2009 19:44:43 Ben Wong wrote: On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:19 AM, Michael Zanettimichael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: Judging from the time when other people complains started I think it happened after an upgrade of my SHR unstable. But I'm not really sure. Yes, SHR-unstable is the culprit. I'm currently dual booting SHR-testing and SHR-unstable, and SHR-unstable is utterly unusable because people can't understand me. (Which I'm not complaining about, by the way. It is called unstable for a reason.) I'd bet that if you revert to SHR-testing, everything will be hunky-dory again. OK. I'll check it out with SHR-Testing and will let you know if it works there. But as I said... It happens also with OM2009 Testing 5... So it seems to be a problem with latest versions of frameworkd? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [om2009] Perfect for holidays
Laszlo KREKACS a écrit : if self.LetterDict and len(value): The len(value) part is not needed, because you already fixed it before. And if the value is None, the len(value) fails with a TypeError exception. I was not sure (and am still not) the two 'if' before this one represent all the possible cases... But I was sure of one thing : this code block wants to use string[0], therefore len(string) have to be true. ps: Im wondering how people manages to add empty contacts and with value None(!). We are the geeks, we can do everything (**) More seriously, my old Nokia 9210 seemed to use an internal convention for contacts. If I put for John Smith a phone number (001), a fax number (002) and a private gsm number (003), I will see on my SIM card : Someone before John Smith : XXX John Smith : 001 '' : 002 '' : 003 Someone after John Smith : YYY Additional bug report : suspend -1 does not prevent suspending. Conclusion : Om2009 is really usable and reliable, and Paroli is fuck*ng great... the perfect solution for your FR if you want to go on holidays ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2009 t5] Some issues ideas
Bernhard Reiter wrote: Hi, I've just upgraded my recently buzz-fixed Freerunner from Om2008 to testing release 5 and so far, things look quite good. There's a couple of minor issues I'm currently experiencing, though: * I can log into home WLAN through Paroli's Wifi GUI and also ping my router, but I can't reach any IP address on the internet. Check your kernel routes. For me the default route wasn't set. Setting it with # route add default gw YOUR-ROUTER-IP fixed my connection. Regards, Andreas Fischer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
no wifi on openmoko fso
hi, i got fso installed on the free runner and i cant get the wifi to work. same result for hackable:1. can anyone tell me how to check the wifi? (other then connect to another network or open network). i do iwconfig and the result is lo no wireless extensions. usb0 no wireless extensions. pan0 no wireless extensions. thanks _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-unstable]
2009/7/5 Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann m...@mnet-online.de: shr team chooses which packages to include, so yes they are responsible for what they produce. yep, we're responsible for deciding to bump the revision of E we use. right, good. we can work with that as raster's pointed out, these releases aren't for public consumption but for testing only. you could very easily stick to the blessed releases, and not break every shr install out there on every update. quoting raster: Eina, Evas, Ecore, Embryo, Edje, E_Dbus, Efreet and Enlightenment have had a snapshot release (snapshot 061), Elementary 0.5.0, and can be downloaded from http://download.enlightenment.org/snapshots/2009-06-14 . If you are taking source from SVN - http://svn.enlightenment.org, then use SVN revision 41040. We're taking E source from SVN - so we did what he recommended and upgraded E to 41040. i don't know then - the last discussion i was involved in on this, i interpreted what he said differently. that might be my fault though fixing this. it's really frigging annoying. believe me - it frigging annoys me too. Just the way you phrased your mail it sounded like it is SHR deliberately deciding to rename libraries. Which is not true. yeah, i was partly being flippant. guess it doesn't carry on email The real problem might just be that SHR has no stable release yet. Because in the end we're talking about SHR *unstable*. And we have to bump the yes, that's true. i can totally accept an unstable release which has unknown bugs - that's part of using unstable. but a team repeatedly releasing packages with the *same* bug and saying we know it's broken, we're not going to fix it, it's a good decision (to paraphrase mwester iirc), but not explaining why is something else entirely, particularly when several make the same complaint also of course, many are using unstable because in a lot of ways, it's so much better than testing. i switched because it was *more* stable than testing. if testing could be relied upon, i'm sure plenty would dwitch, and you wouldn't get people like me complaining about this enlightenment version we use from time to time to get fixes and enhancments, don't you agree? yes, but if i can't use the software written against enlightenment, it's not much use getting those enhancements, is it? we can't file bug reports if the ABI is changing more rapidly than the software written to use it. i've got to the point now where i can't be bothered getting any of the e stuff to work. it seems to break so often, with no discernible improvement. So, this time we took care to rebuild all packages that needed rebuilding. This fixes the packages which are in our feed only though. Problems come from packages you install from other sources. What could we do about that? Yes, we could add some compatability lib package that adds symlinks from for example libevas-ver-svn-02.so.0 to libevas.so.0. Raster would hate us for that btw. because this could theoretically lead to yes, i understand that now. it's what everyone does anyway though bogus bugreports from programs linked against an older lib but running with the newer one. The ABI in enlightenment world is *not stable* yet. Don't know how probable that would be though...\ well, stable is what you make of it. if you want to bless svnrev 40894 or whatever, then do that. then, rather than releasing a new blessed svn every two weeks with different names, skip some. is it more important to shr team to get shr stable via bug reports, or to get e stable via bug reports? you're not obliged to follow what e team wants. an yes, raster would hate that idea. I would propose two things: a) bug us to get all those packages you want into the SHR feed. This gives us the possibility to cleanly rebuild them whenever needed (and spank us if we fail to do so :) right, everything made by c_c: intone, tasks, launcher b) find a volunteer to do a script adding those links or even a package. We certainly could ping that volunteer *before* doing such an upgrade - to give him/her time to do that script b) is me. tell me what you want, and i'm glad to help. better than trying to get endless users fixing it each upgrade by individually creating symlinks i realise now that what you're doing is not entirely insane - until now no-one's explained it and the reasons behind it anywhere near as well as you have. cheers rob ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: no wifi on openmoko fso
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, flecktor wrote: hi, i got fso installed on the free runner and i cant get the wifi to work. same result for hackable:1. can anyone tell me how to check the wifi? (other then connect to another network or open network). i do iwconfig and the result is lo no wireless extensions. usb0 no wireless extensions. pan0 no wireless extensions. It seems that you have to power on the WiFi card first. You might find this in the settings or try the following python script which works for me under SHR. Alex. - #!/usr/bin/python import elementary, os, dbus def getDbusObject (bus, busname , objectpath , interface): dbusObject = bus.get_object(busname, objectpath) return dbus.Interface(dbusObject, dbus_interface=interface) dbusObj = getDbusObject (dbus.SystemBus(), org.freesmartphone.odeviced, /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/WiFi, org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerControl) dbusObj.SetPower( True ); - ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] navit install problems
2009/7/6 Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jeffrey Ratcliffejeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote: It works if you set up a swapfile. Having to set up a swap file for an .ipk file of 3M in size still seems unreasonable... the ipk i installed was over 5MB - i presume it expands to some huge size and is stored in ram. i tried the --tmpdir switch (which i assumed would unpack it straight to disk rather than to ram) but that didn't help at all ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: no wifi on openmoko fso
flecktor fleck...@hotmail.com writes: i got fso installed on the free runner and i cant get the wifi to work. same result for hackable:1. can anyone tell me how to check the wifi? (other then connect to another network or open network). Distro independent way: if ar6000 is a module, load it; if it's compiled in, do echo s3c2440-sdi /sys/bus/platform/drivers/s3c2440-sdi/bind to bind relevant drivers. FSO-specific way: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy WiFi enabled -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External GPS antenna question
Tomasz Suchan wrote: Hi Armin, I use the atenna for GPS Tracking during biking and car tours. As the FR is always running (no sleep) and with activated GPS module - the battery last about 4h - then it's empty. Is accuracy much better with external antenna? If the external antenna can be placed in a better location than the internal one - or if it gets better signal strength. An external antenna on the car roof may see more satellites than the FR sitting on the dashboard, because that metal roof block radio transmission. Now, the FR will see many satellites even inside a car, but those signals cannot penetrate directly through the roof. Some satellites will be seen directly through windows. Signals from the rest may bounce off the hood and come in through windows, or diffract (bend) around the roof edge. Such redirected signals are weaker, and they give greater position error. The latter because they really give the position where your FR would have been, _if_ the signal had not been diffracted or reflected. The GPS receiver is smart, and will discard data from satellites that seem to disagree with the rest. But there are two problems with this: * An extra satellite that gets discarded no longer helps improving accuracy. * If two groups of satellites seems to disagree on position, then the receiver could lock onto the wrong group for a while. An external antenna see all the satellites directly, and don't suffer such problems. Unless you are near tall buildings or mountainsides, which cause the same kind of problems. So an external antenna is great if you have a roof above you. Such as in a car or boat. The problems above don't happen on a bike. Still, an external antenna might help, it may be bigger/better than the internal antenna and get more from a weak signal. For example, if you move around in heavy rain in a forest. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy Birthday Freerunner
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinezda...@tuxbrain.com wrote: I would love to have you there Sean :) Me too :) 2009/7/6 Jose Luis Perez Diez perezd...@gmail.com: El Saturday, 4 de July de 2009 16:49:07 Sean Moss-Pultz va escriure: I always forget to say it, but I'm so impressed every time I see you all organize one of these buzz fix parties and user meetings. When things slow down a bit more for me in Taipei, I'll drop by and check one out. The Debconf9 buzz fix party has been scheduled on Saturday the 25th of july. https://penta.debconf.org/dc9_schedule/events/376.en.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- ___ Rafael Campos o0 Methril 0o http://openblog.methril.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy Birthday Freerunner
I would love to have you there Sean :) 2009/7/6 Jose Luis Perez Diez perezd...@gmail.com: El Saturday, 4 de July de 2009 16:49:07 Sean Moss-Pultz va escriure: I always forget to say it, but I'm so impressed every time I see you all organize one of these buzz fix parties and user meetings. When things slow down a bit more for me in Taipei, I'll drop by and check one out. The Debconf9 buzz fix party has been scheduled on Saturday the 25th of july. https://penta.debconf.org/dc9_schedule/events/376.en.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] navit install problems
Robin Paulson a écrit : 2009/7/6 Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jeffrey Ratcliffejeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote: It works if you set up a swapfile. Having to set up a swap file for an .ipk file of 3M in size still seems unreasonable... the ipk i installed was over 5MB - i presume it expands to some huge size and is stored in ram. i tried the --tmpdir switch (which i assumed would unpack it straight to disk rather than to ram) but that didn't help at all dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/swapfile bs=1M count=128 mkswap /path/to/swapfile swapon /path/to/swapfile then retry. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
Timo Jyrinki wrote: I believe the gsmhandset.state.new (the one) file is not good enough, even though it was toutet as such. The speaker and mic levels are too high, and apparently it may cause too high amplification of mic (ie. when mic2 is 3, mono sidetone is 7 and mono playback is 127 - all maxed out). I've lowered speaker volume to 115 and mono playback volume to 100, otherwise keeping everything intact. Try those. Using Debian. -Timo Thanks a lot. People I call are reporting that my voice is much clearer now. Using OM2009 t5 - Vibhav Sharma ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which gps app can do this?
gvSIG Mobile 0.1.4 was released today, here's a guide that should help you: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/download/ Create a shapefile of your coast line (or download a shapefile for a country) and you should be good to go. http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/unofficial_gvsig_mobile_0_1 Cheers, Joseph 2009/6/28 lanzo lanz...@gmail.com: Hi! I'd like to be using my FR on my little boat as marine GPS. I was curious if, in your opinion, it could be possible to constantly show the distance between me and the nearest point on the coast line. This would be important because in my country (and i guess everywhere) there are rules about the little boats distances from the coast and I cannot overcome 3 nautical miles. I know it should be possible to show the distances between my present position and any given point, but what about something always displaying the distances between my position and the nearest point on the coast? is there maybe any more in-topic forum where i can ask this? Thank you very much for any answer! bye! :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/which-gps-app-can-do-this--tp3169715p3169715.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Anyone know a store that sells FreeRunner accs in the US
Hi Laszlo On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: If somebody wants to start a Wiki page and vote on accessories that you all want to buy, I was always wondering, why openmoko dont ship an adapter like this[1], instead of the big (hard to carry) cable. Yeah I have one of those. I really liked the design, but they don't seem to fit in many of the new netbooks that are so popular these days. So we decided to make something more flexible. As for the existing design, we spent a ton of money to make the adapters...they had a huge minimum order quantity. Mainly because of a patent issues with the design. So we won't be able to custom make anything anytime soon. But if you know of an existing one you like, please add it the wiki page and we'll keep track of demand and try to source them once it reaches around 100 units. [snip] ps: I would also like to hear any news about your new company Sean. Just how things are going, are stumped somewhere, etc, etc. Well Openmoko is still Openmoko. Nothing fundamentally new here yet. The changes to our company have been more in size and scope, than anything else. Our vision of making great open devices is still the same. We're a much smaller team now. All hyper-focused moving towards our next product. We're very optimistic about the future. To transform an idea into a business takes a lot time and luck. 2009 is year three for our company. This is really the make-or-break year for a startup. At least it works that way in my past experiences. We've been through a lot of turbulence these past six months...personally it was extremely hard on me. I can't help but feel that we're close to getting lucky. Probably your interested in hearing more about Project B. Please give me a few more months to talk about that. We're in the middle of some sensitive negotiations. So we can't share project details publicly yet - at least without jeopardizing important future relationships for us. Exclusivity and non-disclosure agreements are realities of the business world. I hope you all can understand our secrecy at times around product development. Rest assured, the results will be open for everyone. If there's anything specific you're interested in, please feel free to ask. I'll do my best to share what I can. -Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Happy Birthday Freerunner
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Rafael Campos meth...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:35 PM, David Reyes Samblas Martinezda...@tuxbrain.com wrote: I would love to have you there Sean :) Me too :) 2009/7/6 Jose Luis Perez Diez perezd...@gmail.com: El Saturday, 4 de July de 2009 16:49:07 Sean Moss-Pultz va escriure: I always forget to say it, but I'm so impressed every time I see you all organize one of these buzz fix parties and user meetings. When things slow down a bit more for me in Taipei, I'll drop by and check one out. The Debconf9 buzz fix party has been scheduled on Saturday the 25th of july. https://penta.debconf.org/dc9_schedule/events/376.en.html David (et all) The end of July is a super busy time for us here in Taipei. So I won't be able to travel much until mid-late August and then a lot in September. Anything going on then? -Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Toolchain-VM for C/Vala programs?
Am Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009 14:11:19 schrieb Aapo Rantalainen: I made VirtualBox image for starting openmoko developing easily. This hosting site contains ads, but this is just rc1: http://www.2shared.com/file/6504056/3835d89/openmoko-base-devvdi.html For user who know how VirtualBox works: It is ubuntu 9.04 with openbox (virtualbox guest additions installed). Use right mouse button to launch menu and terminal. Compile first program (hello.c is ready there) . /usr/local/openmoko/arm/setup-env arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc hello.c -o hello Some instructions: http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/vboximage/ It is not big deal to copy compiled binaries out from virtual machine, but do You need some preinstalled http/ssh servers and manuals to map host ports to guest? I need comments. I have plan to add installed qemu-moko to image. What is situation of qemu-neo1973? Automatic_emulation_on_ubuntu have worked foolproof one year ago, but now it got stucked with kernel missing error. And is it possible to run 'Freerunner' on qemu or only GTA01? -Aapo Rantalainen It would be nice if you included the whole e17 stuff including elementary from svn with their builddeps preinstalled so we can svn update the code and build against most recent e-libs. Provided the binaries still run on Om2009 et al -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-unstable] screen flickering
hi: SHR unstable version is 20090624. I've seen this problem for several times when omgps running. I often switch current page to menu which avoid refreshing views -- to save power. The whole screen gets blur. Fortunately in this case I can click the 'exit' button, but have to restart. Each time I saw the problem the only thing I'm sure that 1) the outdoor air temperature is high (30 centi degrees) 2) the phone was put in a portable bag, I have to say the color is black :) I'm wondering it is caused by high temperature? Anybody has similar problem? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-SHR-unstable--screen-flickering-tp3214539p3214539.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-unstable] screen flickering
On Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:58:52 -0700 (PDT), mqy meng.qing...@gmail.com wrote: hi: SHR unstable version is 20090624. I've seen this problem for several times when omgps running. I often switch current page to menu which avoid refreshing views -- to save power. The whole screen gets blur. Fortunately in this case I can click the 'exit' button, but have to restart. Each time I saw the problem the only thing I'm sure that 1) the outdoor air temperature is high (30 centi degrees) 2) the phone was put in a portable bag, I have to say the color is black :) I'm wondering it is caused by high temperature? Anybody has similar problem? I saw two incarnations of that. The first one I encountered was the screen flickering, but not getting blurred. It happened several times, each time (save one or two) the FR was charging and feeling a bit hot. On powering off, the screen was black at first, then, slowly, grey vertical bars appeared in various shades of gray. The other one seemed more like a software failure - half of the screen was blurred. It seemed like the image was being shifted a feww pixels in some direction and then back to normall all the time. -- Cheers, rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] navit install problems
or disable xserver I also have seen the strange behaviour that with xserver stopped and a swapfile of 128MB, i could not opkg upgrade navit, but when I typed opkg install navit it did work but that can be 100% coincidence On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.comwrote: Robin Paulson a écrit : 2009/7/6 Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jeffrey Ratcliffejeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote: It works if you set up a swapfile. Having to set up a swap file for an .ipk file of 3M in size still seems unreasonable... the ipk i installed was over 5MB - i presume it expands to some huge size and is stored in ram. i tried the --tmpdir switch (which i assumed would unpack it straight to disk rather than to ram) but that didn't help at all dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/swapfile bs=1M count=128 mkswap /path/to/swapfile swapon /path/to/swapfile then retry. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] navit install problems
I experienced that behaviour, too, 100% reproducible, so probably no coincidence. But I'd like to know what the hell opkg does there which fills all the memory?! -- Marcel Am Montag, 6. Juli 2009 20:38:17 schrieb Yorick Moko: or disable xserver I also have seen the strange behaviour that with xserver stopped and a swapfile of 128MB, i could not opkg upgrade navit, but when I typed opkg install navit it did work but that can be 100% coincidence On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.comwrote: Robin Paulson a écrit : 2009/7/6 Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jeffrey Ratcliffejeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com wrote: It works if you set up a swapfile. Having to set up a swap file for an .ipk file of 3M in size still seems unreasonable... the ipk i installed was over 5MB - i presume it expands to some huge size and is stored in ram. i tried the --tmpdir switch (which i assumed would unpack it straight to disk rather than to ram) but that didn't help at all dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/swapfile bs=1M count=128 mkswap /path/to/swapfile swapon /path/to/swapfile then retry. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-unstable] screen flickering
hehe, I'm not alone :) My problem is similar to the second one you described -- whole screen image moves back and forth frequently. I saw colored vertical bars 5 months ago, it is triggered drawing part of pixmap to window. regards, mqy rhn-2 wrote: I saw two incarnations of that. The first one I encountered was the screen flickering, but not getting blurred. It happened several times, each time (save one or two) the FR was charging and feeling a bit hot. On powering off, the screen was black at first, then, slowly, grey vertical bars appeared in various shades of gray. The other one seemed more like a software failure - half of the screen was blurred. It seemed like the image was being shifted a feww pixels in some direction and then back to normall all the time. -- Cheers, rhn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-SHR-unstable--screen-flickering-tp3214539p3214860.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PISI 0.3 released
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 01:13:49 +1200 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com (RP) wrote: 2009/6/24 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz: - calendar sync: Pimlico-Google: seems to sync nicely one way - pimlico to google but not the other way. how did you get pisi to sync pimlico data - it's not in the options for my install of 0.3? it was in my install: [pimlicodates] description= Pimlico Dates module=calendar_ics path=/home/root/.evolution/calendar/local/system/calendar.ics Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: External GPS antenna question
BTW, anyone have any info on the radiation pattern of the internal antenna? Rúben Em Seg, Julho 6, 2009 13:31, Helge Hafting escreveu: Tomasz Suchan wrote: Hi Armin, I use the atenna for GPS Tracking during biking and car tours. As the FR is always running (no sleep) and with activated GPS module - the battery last about 4h - then it's empty. Is accuracy much better with external antenna? If the external antenna can be placed in a better location than the internal one - or if it gets better signal strength. An external antenna on the car roof may see more satellites than the FR sitting on the dashboard, because that metal roof block radio transmission. Now, the FR will see many satellites even inside a car, but those signals cannot penetrate directly through the roof. Some satellites will be seen directly through windows. Signals from the rest may bounce off the hood and come in through windows, or diffract (bend) around the roof edge. Such redirected signals are weaker, and they give greater position error. The latter because they really give the position where your FR would have been, _if_ the signal had not been diffracted or reflected. The GPS receiver is smart, and will discard data from satellites that seem to disagree with the rest. But there are two problems with this: * An extra satellite that gets discarded no longer helps improving accuracy. * If two groups of satellites seems to disagree on position, then the receiver could lock onto the wrong group for a while. An external antenna see all the satellites directly, and don't suffer such problems. Unless you are near tall buildings or mountainsides, which cause the same kind of problems. So an external antenna is great if you have a roof above you. Such as in a car or boat. The problems above don't happen on a bike. Still, an external antenna might help, it may be bigger/better than the internal antenna and get more from a weak signal. For example, if you move around in heavy rain in a forest. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Rúben Leote Mendes -- ru...@netureza.pt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
Hi, i am just uploading new QtMoko images that are based on debian and that now support running X application from Qtopia. You can download from: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/uImage-x4.bin http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/qtmoko-debian-x4.jffs2 http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/qtmoko-debian-x4.tar.gz MD5 sums: f64f5ff2e7dad0202e7cb69d263d006d uImage-x4.bin f475d010bc020b9290d7c07b54584860 qtmoko-debian-x4.jffs2 feb42b7f9e1881bdcea9799edd8e4dce qtmoko-debian-x4.tar.gz Changes from previous version: - images are called x4 (because of X windows support), images without X will be called v4 - logging should now work - better UI speed - rotation should work - apt-get should work out of the box - new application QX which is used as launcher for X applications - included tangogps and scummvm - /dev/mmcblk0p1 mounts to /media/card now and /dev/mmcblk0p4 as swap. X applications: I have howto [1] for building QtMoko debian rootfs so some details are there. As I said you have to use QX launcher which will allow you to start X application in fullscreen. You can exit the application when you press the touchscreen for 5 seconds. The application will be then paused and you can either kill it or continue. The support for switching tasks between Qtopia and X application is still missing. If you have problems with X applications on first boot, reboot should fix it. You should also have swap enabled because there is not much memory left when running Qtopia and X application side by side. QtMoko defaultly counts with swap on /dev/mmcblk0p4 (4th primary partition on your SD card). Btw as you can see the images are getting really big now. I will work on this but i would be glad for any help in this area. If you take a look what takes most of the space then we have this list: 1/ Kernel modules - i use packaging config so that we can use both Qi and uboot. But packaging modules take 30MB space. So we probably need slimmer config. Any ideas? 2/ Python - i would prefer to get rid of this package. Takes like 10+ megabytes. It's dependency for alsa-utils package - which is bug (or relict from old times) in debian (and should be fixed in next debian). We can either use custom or newer alsa-utils. 3/ Perl - i guess we cant get rid of this one. 4/ Locales - how to get rid of locales that are not needed? 5/ cc1 - do we need compiler as default package in phone? So i will be glad for comments and maybe tips for other useful applications and also for tips how to make the images smaller. Cheers Radek PS: going to sleep, images should be there in like 2 hours. [1] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/debian_rootfs_howto.txt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenWrt on your Neo - some updates...
Hey, long time no news regarding OpenWrt - the Openmoko Neo devices; but it happened much! We think we now reached a state which justifies providing - an update what's up - an image and environment to play around with == So, what happened last 6 months? - kernel 2.6.30.1 is running we extracted all neo-specific patches from the OM-kernel-tree and created an atomic and maintainable patchset for the Neo (Lars did great work here) - clean, stable and accelerated graphics system thanks to the gorgeous work of the xf86-video-glamo developers, finally there's no need for Xglamo anymore - acceleration is done from within an usual Xorg with the glamo-driver used. The infamous WSOD should be ultimately purged out. - GPS works the amazing application tangoGPS is also available as an OpenWrt-package now - performance tuned due to it's architecture itself, fixed bugs and found ways for optimizations through all layers, OpenWrt now boots in less than 1 minute into illume (very first boot excluded) - software added/upgraded besides lot's of just OpenWrt-related improvements, also typical OM-community-used packages were added and upgraded to recent versions (e.g. tangogps, enlightenment/the whole efl-suite, paroli, fso, connman, etc.) - a beautiful bootsplash real beauty can't be described by words - phone calls are still possible thanks to paroli, the basic phone stuff is (still) working (phone calls, messages, contacts, etc.) == Images / environment Images can be found here: http://nanl.de/files/openwrt/openmoko/ Mind - that, as usual for OpenWrt - the default IP of your device will be 192.168.1.1 and the only running service will be telnet on port 23. After logging in and setting a password, telnetd is getting replaced through sshd (port 22). The mentioned files/images have the prefix 20090706_r16709_1, based on svn-revision 16709. It seems there are some problems with Qi at the moment; in case you're using Qi please try using u-boot from NOR-flash until this issue is fixed. == In case of errors/failures and resulting aggressions, ultimate happiness or just questions and criticism... ...please do not hesitate to tell us your thoughts and feelings. There's also a wiki-page about OpenWrt on the Neo: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenWrt (thanks to Romuald neomilium Conty at this point, for his great work of co-maintaining the wiki-page, testing and making lot's of great suggestions what could be done (better)). Try it out :) Love mirko (the other one) On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 19:58 +0100, Mirko Vogt wrote: Hey folks, I'm glad to announce that OpenWrt now has basic support for the Openmoko GTA02 Freerunner! There's still lot's of work to do but let's see what's already working for now: - kernel (2.6.28) is building and booting (merging the Openmoko and OpenWrt patchsets, whereof one (and that's not ours ;)) consists of either over 620 little non-atomic patches or one 10MB patchblob [kudos to git!], is no picnic (thanks to the work of Michael mb Buesch at this point!) - D-Bus and the freesmartphone.org reference implementation (they import the libc.so.6 via ctypes - I was really puzzled when python told me it can't find my libc, because I was using the uclibc) - Xglamo with acceleration (in the beginning Xglamo just crashed, even JTAG wasn't available anymore; it took us weeks to figure out that a compiler bug was the cause (thanks to Felix Fietkau, Holger Freyther and Lars Clausen) - Lars btw. is currently making good progress to get glamo acceleration working within Xorg) - the EFL (enlightenment foundation libraries) and enlightenment including illume (needs some more love to make it really fit into the OpenWrt-environment - currently edje_cc and eet are required as pre-installed host tools) - paroli phone application suite (in case it's working ;)) A few days ago we established the first OpenWrt-OpenWrt phone call which worked out of the box after flashing our devices - so we thought that might be a good occasion for an announcement :) We're pleased for all of your feedback and any kind of help is highly appreciated! Thanks a lot! mirko (the other one) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: which gps app can do this?
Hello, Lanzo. In which area will your boat be navigating? I mean, which coast are you talking about? It should be easy to get a reasonably good shapefile of that shoreline and you would be permanently informed of the distance to the nearest vertex. Regards, Juan Lucas De: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org en nombre de Joseph Reeves Enviado el: lun 06/07/2009 17:58 Para: List for Openmoko community discussion Asunto: Re: which gps app can do this? gvSIG Mobile 0.1.4 was released today, here's a guide that should help you: http://gvsigmobileonopenmoko.wordpress.com/download/ Create a shapefile of your coast line (or download a shapefile for a country) and you should be good to go. http://blogs.thehumanjourney.net/finds/entry/unofficial_gvsig_mobile_0_1 Cheers, Joseph 2009/6/28 lanzo lanz...@gmail.com: Hi! I'd like to be using my FR on my little boat as marine GPS. I was curious if, in your opinion, it could be possible to constantly show the distance between me and the nearest point on the coast line. This would be important because in my country (and i guess everywhere) there are rules about the little boats distances from the coast and I cannot overcome 3 nautical miles. I know it should be possible to show the distances between my present position and any given point, but what about something always displaying the distances between my position and the nearest point on the coast? is there maybe any more in-topic forum where i can ask this? Thank you very much for any answer! bye! :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/which-gps-app-can-do-this--tp3169715p3169715.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New images with experimental X support
Hi, Radek. Is there any difference in Qtmoko binary for X and non-X?? On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, i am just uploading new QtMoko images that are based on debian and that now support running X application from Qtopia. You can download from: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/uImage-x4.bin http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/qtmoko-debian-x4.jffs2 http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/qtmoko-debian-x4.tar.gz MD5 sums: f64f5ff2e7dad0202e7cb69d263d006d uImage-x4.bin f475d010bc020b9290d7c07b54584860 qtmoko-debian-x4.jffs2 feb42b7f9e1881bdcea9799edd8e4dce qtmoko-debian-x4.tar.gz Changes from previous version: - images are called x4 (because of X windows support), images without X will be called v4 - logging should now work - better UI speed - rotation should work - apt-get should work out of the box - new application QX which is used as launcher for X applications - included tangogps and scummvm - /dev/mmcblk0p1 mounts to /media/card now and /dev/mmcblk0p4 as swap. X applications: I have howto [1] for building QtMoko debian rootfs so some details are there. As I said you have to use QX launcher which will allow you to start X application in fullscreen. You can exit the application when you press the touchscreen for 5 seconds. The application will be then paused and you can either kill it or continue. The support for switching tasks between Qtopia and X application is still missing. If you have problems with X applications on first boot, reboot should fix it. You should also have swap enabled because there is not much memory left when running Qtopia and X application side by side. QtMoko defaultly counts with swap on /dev/mmcblk0p4 (4th primary partition on your SD card). Btw as you can see the images are getting really big now. I will work on this but i would be glad for any help in this area. If you take a look what takes most of the space then we have this list: 1/ Kernel modules - i use packaging config so that we can use both Qi and uboot. But packaging modules take 30MB space. So we probably need slimmer config. Any ideas? 2/ Python - i would prefer to get rid of this package. Takes like 10+ megabytes. It's dependency for alsa-utils package - which is bug (or relict from old times) in debian (and should be fixed in next debian). We can either use custom or newer alsa-utils. 3/ Perl - i guess we cant get rid of this one. 4/ Locales - how to get rid of locales that are not needed? 5/ cc1 - do we need compiler as default package in phone? So i will be glad for comments and maybe tips for other useful applications and also for tips how to make the images smaller. Cheers Radek PS: going to sleep, images should be there in like 2 hours. [1] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/debian_rootfs_howto.txt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR-unstable] Neote 0.1.0 released
Hello, I'm happy to announce the first working release of Neote. Neote is a note taking application. Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly. It's written in Python/Elementary and uses SQLite for storing data. Notes can be organized using custom categories that you can add, rename and delete at any time. Currently, only text note type is available. Future plans: * Search * Draw notes * Record voice notes It should run on any system with a revision of python-elementary equal or greater to 40756. I think that SHR-unstable is the only candidate. Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/neote/ Screenshots: http://code.google.com/p/neote/wiki/Screenshots Package: http://neote.googlecode.com/files/neote_0.1.0-r0_all.ipk -- Valéry Febvre ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-unstable] Neote 0.1.0 released
That is very cool! I have been looking for an app like this, thank you! Is it possible to import pictures or annotations(allow for a quick drawing maybe) into notes? Cheers! Alex On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Valery Febvre vfeb...@easter-eggs.comwrote: Hello, I'm happy to announce the first working release of Neote. Neote is a note taking application. Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly. It's written in Python/Elementary and uses SQLite for storing data. Notes can be organized using custom categories that you can add, rename and delete at any time. Currently, only text note type is available. Future plans: * Search * Draw notes * Record voice notes It should run on any system with a revision of python-elementary equal or greater to 40756. I think that SHR-unstable is the only candidate. Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/neote/ Screenshots: http://code.google.com/p/neote/wiki/Screenshots Package: http://neote.googlecode.com/files/neote_0.1.0-r0_all.ipk -- Valéry Febvre ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Dead Intone
Ugh, this isn't over yet. It's still locking up as soon as it starts playing a song. Plays to the end of the track (because mplayer is a separate process) but doesn't continue after that. Intone has to be killed, but I noticed that it's eating up 10-20% CPU as long as it's running, causing my music to cut and skip. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-unstable] Neote 0.1.0 released
looks great, are the notes path savable or does neote just toss them in some corner of the system? On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Alex Teichexelap...@gmail.com wrote: That is very cool! I have been looking for an app like this, thank you! Is it possible to import pictures or annotations(allow for a quick drawing maybe) into notes? Cheers! Alex On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Valery Febvre vfeb...@easter-eggs.com wrote: Hello, I'm happy to announce the first working release of Neote. Neote is a note taking application. Its interface aims to be easy and finger friendly. It's written in Python/Elementary and uses SQLite for storing data. Notes can be organized using custom categories that you can add, rename and delete at any time. Currently, only text note type is available. Future plans: * Search * Draw notes * Record voice notes It should run on any system with a revision of python-elementary equal or greater to 40756. I think that SHR-unstable is the only candidate. Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/neote/ Screenshots: http://code.google.com/p/neote/wiki/Screenshots Package: http://neote.googlecode.com/files/neote_0.1.0-r0_all.ipk -- Valéry Febvre ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] New debian images V3
Well, qtmoko v3 on FSO is ready, Downloads: http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtmoko/snapbuild/20090707/ On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Gennady Kupava wrote: Hello, Radek. Hi Gennady, Problems I noticed so far: 1. Booting with Qi fails somehow. Last and only thing i see [21474549.34] INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294909868/2000 jiffies). NOR uboot is fine, i seen same message but INIT:... after that. Same problem here. Qi can boot only for SD card. I use u-boot in NOR for booting from NAND. 2. I see kernel backtraces near that message: (see attachment) 3. It hungs for me several times while I was trying to setup network - wifi and other types. Yes, this is known problem. Must be something missing in debian rootfs or some other small diference, because it should be working on FSO based rootfs. I use terminal and iwconfig for wifi connections now. 4. I can't setup GPRS. Is it a problem with me or with QtMoko? I got qpe hung with high cpu load then I am trying to connect. GPRS works fine for me in SHR. Did someone try it? GPRS works for me. I just set APN, dummy username and login. This time it connected on the first try. Sometimes i have to retry. 5. Bug in voice notes application - if you remove record while listening it, audio device will be clocked be blocked until pkill -9 that application. It's easy to click one more time. Patches are welcome :) 6. Font... Terminal font is not just inappropriate. It is antialiased non-monospace truetype font, without possibility to change it. So all sort of problems where. Yup i also noticed that the cursor position is not correct. Also, please can you answer some question: 1. Do QtExtened have a future? I am working in my spare time (so it's not very much). I am planning possibility to run X apps. If that works out we will get a lot of applications. I will fix all regressions, but probably not enough time to fix all bugs. I see the future quite bright. We are regulary importing new QT releases so QtMoko will keep to be easy-to-develop platform for QT applications. 2. About using truetype fonts. As we have such a... slow hardware might it be better to use bitmap fonts? Any time I see that antialiasing, imagine that hinting, kerning and so. Anyone tried to measure impact of font rendering system on performance? Would be nice to see the results. Cheers Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Developer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
