Rod Whitby (MokoMakefile author) moves on to start WebOS Internals

2009-10-06 Thread Rod Whitby
http://www.rwhitby.net/blog/webos-internals/palm-pre-lands-in-australia.html

It is with some sadness that I must say goodbye to the OpenMoko  
community, and move on to new things.

My dream of an OpenMoko phone with a hardware keyboard to replace my  
aging Treo 650 was never realised, and you all know the rest of the  
story on the software side of things.

I've now started a new community (webos-internals.org) which does open  
source Linux-based development for the Palm Pre.

My hope is that freesmartphone.org may one day be the bridge between  
the OpenMoko community I am now leaving, and the WebOS Internals  
community which has recently started.

I wish everyone continuing down the OpenMoko path the best of success  
in the future.

-- Rod

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Re: [fso based] Simplified mixer app

2009-10-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 02 October 2009, Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Laszlo KREKACS
 
 laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote:
  But there is so many things what changed, that Im completely lost.
 
 Just wanted to notice you, that restoring the original
 gsmhandset.state file (and rebooting)
 does solve my problem. Im able to take call, and hear the other party.
 (and he able to hear me).
 
 Although your program was nice. It changed the mic way better, what I
 had. Other party
 said, its much louder and clearer.
 
 Hope you can sort out, why the broken .state file is broken. And where
 the bugs comes from ...

Updated version now available:
http://www.mazikeen.demon.co.uk/openmoko/fso-simplemixer.py

I can't reproduce your problem with faulty saves. You should find some extra 
debug output if you start it in a terminal, and message boxes so you know 
something has happened. This will show which scenario it asked fso to save, so 
you can check whether is asked to save the right one. It's possible we have 
different versions of frameworkd. I'm testing with:

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg list_installed frameworkd
frameworkd - 0.9.5.9+gitr1697+ed29786daceccefe918ce3911e3b6fb7f2efb08c-r0 -

Other changes:
* More scenarios simplified.
* With unhandled scenarios there is a message instead of a blank screen or 
crash

I looked into adding the alsa channel number to the name in the advanced view, 
but pyalsaaudio doesn't make it available.

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Re: WiFi-Tool (or GPRS-Tool modified)

2009-10-06 Thread Paul Fertser
Esteban Monge esteban.franci...@gmail.com writes:
     def wifi_on(self, button):
         os.system(mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced 
 /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/WiFi
 org.freesmartphone.Resource.Enable)

Are you sure you know exactly what FSO resources concept is about and
have you seen FSO_Resources wikipage?

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Re: WiFi-Tool (or GPRS-Tool modified)

2009-10-06 Thread Petr Vanek
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009 14:09:19 -0600
Esteban Monge esteban.franci...@gmail.com (EM) wrote:

Hello I  readed this page:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources

You suggest use the command

fsoraw -r WiFi

if you for example enable wifi via shr-settings and then use any script
that uses fso-raw by default, the resource will get released upon
the spripts exit... which imho is bad - it should read the status of the
resource before action and when leaving leave it in the state it was in,
or?

Petr


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[shr-u] App Launcher first thoughts

2009-10-06 Thread Arigead
It's taken me a while to get around to looking at this. Brilliant,
really like it for a start but hard to find info on how to configure it.
At present I can't seem to configure it to receive the SMS messages.

I've been looking through the internet with a very bad connection trying
to find some info on the necessary configuration of both launcher and
framework to get it to work. I unfortunately removed shr-messages from
the phone as I liked the app launcher so much. Now I've got the
notifications that I've received an SMS message but I've no idea where
it is. Using a test sim so I'm messaging myself so I'm not missing
anything anyhow ;-)

I have to say I like the default screen and think that it's better then
the illume app screen in shr-u. This is personal opinion but I don't
think that the screen of applications I have installed is information.
It only becomes information if I add an app to the phone and then it's
only  useful information when I add one and can see it there. I don't
think I'd like my computer's desktop to just show me all the apps I have
installed. I know where to find the menu to launch one though, when I
need it.

As I've said can't find info on launcher but my screen is showing me the
time and the date, each on a line and then on a third line it's showing
me a few numbers which I've no idea about. What does that info mean?

I've been looking over what email I still have in my inbox on the
subject of launcher and trying to piece together info. I don't think it
should be that complicated though. It'd be great if people who went
ahead of me and found stuff out could have updated the app launcher wiki
page in the openmoko wiki, then I'd be standing on the shoulders of
giants. At present all I can see are shins.

Now in one of those previous emails the  author (Well done on a
brilliant app) mentioned that an attempt might be made to create a dbus
interface to add info to the launcher home screen. Did that go anywhere?
I'm interested in this as I'd like to add a simple anniversary  app
which could make use of this interface. I don't want to add reminders
for birthdays and the like as it's a bit of work and when I do that on
other phones I get reminded maybe three days before the event and then
promptly forget it till the day after the event (disaster_1.0.0.bb) It'd
be great if I could write a simple script which would look at my text
file which contains all the dates and work out which date is next and
how long I've got. Then post that info to app launcher which could put
it under the time and date and maybe even color code it depending on how
long I've got left. A cron job could check it when the date changes at
midnight and when the phone is powered up. Obviously then I can't forget
the date in question. Maybe if there were two dates very close it could
put up both. Anyhow that's just be thinking out loud. Maybe other people
here ain't as absent minded as me. Maybe it's an age thing ;-)

Loving the launcher if I could only wire it up to receive messages ;-)

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Re: Internal pressure sensor

2009-10-06 Thread Werner Almesberger
Stroller wrote:
 This barometer is self-contained and connected to the i2c bus, a  
 _relatively_ simple addition. If there is demand for the barometer -  
 although I'm inclined to agree with Rask that there wouldn't be - then  
 it might it be justified to add it were Brazil ever to go into  
 Freerunner production.

Here's where Open Design Hardware changes the scenario: if you have an
(open) base product, you can design, produce, and deploy small changes
for a special interest group at a comparably low price - a bit higher
than if the change was part of the mass-produced design, but
considerably lower than any traditional alternatives.

 software installed. The software would have to be closed-source,  
[... more horror material ...]

Why bother ? Even if we assume for a moment that you can't make money
selling unencumbered software, you'd have the enhanced hardware
already as a kind of dongle. Also, since this would be a highly
specialized niche product, I would expect customer loyalty to be high.

- Werner

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Re: Increasing GPS accuracy with EGNOS

2009-10-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
 Someone tell me what command to run on what distro and I'll let you all 
 know...

Oh, and somebody write a SISNeT application too ;-)

http://www.egnos-pro.esa.int/sisnet/index.html



2009/10/5 Joseph Reeves iknowjos...@gmail.com:
This is probably worth checking to see what is actually happening
 when in Europe,

 Someone tell me what command to run on what distro and I'll let you all 
 know...



 2009/10/5 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk:
 On Sunday 04 October 2009, Erik Lundin wrote:
 Good news, indeed. Does the Neo FreeRunner support EGNOS signals? Both
 the hardware and software?

 http://www.u-blox.com/en/download-center.html?task=view.downloadcid=83

 According to this the Antaris 4 is capable of using WAAS, EGNOS and MSAS,
 collectively known as SBAS, and the signal is received through the GPS
 antenna. By default it is enabled, with one search channel, although this can
 be configured through the ubx protocol. The status can also be shown in ubx
 messages. This is probably worth checking to see what is actually happening
 when in Europe, as when it was written EGNOS was in test mode, and its use 
 was
 disabled by default. It is unclear whether this was because of a 'test mode'
 flag in the signal or hardcoding in the firmware.

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Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release

2009-10-06 Thread Joseph Reeves
 myself, i'd be inclined to ignore them and carry on uploading tracks

+1



2009/10/3 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com:
 2009/10/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no:
 Actually, I got a mail once telling me not to do that. Seems there were
 limited room on servers, and too much of my tracks were known stuff.
 So now I only edit with josm, I don't upload tracks.

 who told you that? i'd be very surprised if that was anyone who
 actually had an involvement with the osm infrastructure (servers,
 etc.). the people involved in maintaining and directing osm are pretty
 light in their instructions to everyone else (which has good and bad
 side effects...)

 myself, i'd be inclined to ignore them and carry on uploading tracks

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Re: Rod Whitby (MokoMakefile author) moves on to start WebOS Internals

2009-10-06 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Rod,
wow, sad to see you go indeed.
You are one of the true old-timers of Openmoko :-)
Since hacking the Palm Pre is not that far from an 'open phone' perspective,
maybe you can add a feed to the Openmoko planet and we can that way stay in
touch with what you are doing?
I will regularly check what's going on at webos-internals.org
All the best! Good luck!
Wolfgang

On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 10:08:23PM +1030, Rod Whitby wrote:
 http://www.rwhitby.net/blog/webos-internals/palm-pre-lands-in-australia.html
 
 It is with some sadness that I must say goodbye to the OpenMoko  
 community, and move on to new things.
 
 My dream of an OpenMoko phone with a hardware keyboard to replace my  
 aging Treo 650 was never realised, and you all know the rest of the  
 story on the software side of things.
 
 I've now started a new community (webos-internals.org) which does open  
 source Linux-based development for the Palm Pre.
 
 My hope is that freesmartphone.org may one day be the bridge between  
 the OpenMoko community I am now leaving, and the WebOS Internals  
 community which has recently started.
 
 I wish everyone continuing down the OpenMoko path the best of success  
 in the future.
 
 -- Rod
 
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Re: WiFi-Tool (or GPRS-Tool modified)

2009-10-06 Thread Esteban Monge
def set_status(self, label):
status = os.system(ifconfig eth0)
if status == 0:
status = WiFi Power On
label.set_text(status)
label.modify_fg(gtk.STATE_NORMAL, gtk.gdk.color_parse(green))

else:
status = WiFi Power Off
label.set_text(status)
label.modify_fg(gtk.STATE_NORMAL, gtk.gdk.color_parse(red))

This part of the script check if WiFi is Power On or Power Off, maybe
prevents the bad use of the script, in my case work good.

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Re: Rod Whitby (MokoMakefile author) moves on to start WebOS Internals

2009-10-06 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Rod,

thanks for all the work you did to bring Openmoko forward!

Even though it took all so long due to all our detours, I'm quite satisfied 
with what the Openmoko community has created throughout the years, especially 
since Openmoko Inc. stopped guiding the project.

A hardware family often is the initial trigger to establish a community, 
however it's important to embrace and extend, especially when the days of the 
hardware family are counted. As other solution come around, it gets important 
for the Openmoko community to widen the focus and grow into something larger.

I created the freesmartphone.org project to cover a much wider scope than 
Openmoko -- as such, we are looking forward to continue our work on FSO 
covering both anti-vendor-ports and forthcoming semiopen devices such as the 
Palm Pre and the Nokia N900.

So... good bye and hello again!

See you soon,

:M:

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Re: No wireless in Debian Sid

2009-10-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 05 October 2009, Esteban Monge wrote:
 Hello Again...
 
 I found this command, I think is the correct way to enable the wireless:
 
 mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced
 /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/WiFi
 org.freesmartphone.Resource.Enable
 
 And to turn off:
 
 mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced
 /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerControl/WiFi
 org.freesmartphone.Resource.Disable
 
 I going to make the little gui based in this commands...

You should not use this interface! From the docs[1]:
Applications usually are not allowed to use this interface directly, they 
will solely interact using the org.freesmartphone.Usage API.

The Resource Handling introduction[2] describes how you're supposed to control 
resources. In short you should be using:

mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage 
org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy WiFi enabled

The valid states are enabled, disabled and auto, with auto being the default. 
Auto will enable the resource only when at least one application has requested 
it.

[1] 
http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/org.freesmartphone.Resource.html;hb=HEAD
[2] http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=specs.git;a=blob_plain;f=html/usage-
intro.html;hb=HEAD
[3] 

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Re: [Qi - SHR-U/All?] Pink line of death

2009-10-06 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
It's not omnewrotate. If you're lucky, using omnewrotate may help
you recover that screen state.

All omnewrotate does is infer a position from the accelerometers and
using the xrandr API to rotate the screen

http://code.google.com/p/omnewrotate/source/browse/trunk/src/omnewrotate.c#264

So if you want a culprit you can look at libxrandr, although I'm looking
quite more seriously at that damned glamo chip.

As to your last question, just chmod 000 /etc/X11/Xsession.d/*omnewrotate

Rui

On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 10:04:49AM +0200, Andreas Fischer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've also seen this bug and I've also tracked it down to OMNewRotate. My
 solution so far was to always disable rotation before going into
 suspend. Not doing so seems to give a chance of (almost?) 100% failure.
 Note, that I keep the freerunner strapped in a horizontal position to my
 belt - so during suspend it will almost certainly be rotated, unless
 rotate has been switched off.
 
 Interestingly there seems to be a step before the pink line is shown:
 Sometimes when I boot and do not enter the PIN immediately (but still
 before suspend), the screen is partly garbled (lower 33% of the screen
 in portrait mode). After suspend, the pink line shows up.
 
 Listening to the feeling in my gut, I'd say glamo b0rks screen setup
 when in a rotated position.
 
 Hope this helps to narrow it down. Meanwhile - is there a way to disable
 OMNewRotate on boot and suspend (i.e. to only enable it manually)?
 
 Regards,
 Andreas
 
 Christ van Willegen wrote:
  Hello,
  
  Has anyone seen the 'pink line of death' at any time?
  
  My FR sometimes does not suspend, but instead shows a black screen
  with a pink/purple line at about 33% from the bottom of the screen.
  The backlight is fully on. Also, the screen is whining.
  
  I haven't been able to reproduce it with a known procedure, but it may
  have to do with rotating the phone during suspend.
  
  I also haven't had it in this state on such times that it was possible
  to SSH into it to see if it was still alive or not.
  
  Shall I file a bug report with this meager information?
  
  Christ van Willegen
  
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Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux - Version 0.4.0

2009-10-06 Thread D. Fett

A new version is out and there are lots of new features:

- Added cool command line interface! See below for features.
- Completely new search feature
- New marking feature: Mark interesting geocaches and get back to them
quickly.
- Added upper bound for visible caches to improve speed
- Added upscaling of missing map tiles
- Changed image loading*
- Don't redraw map on movement if your position isn't shown anyway
- Changed quality indicator to see how exact the shown position is. Shows if
DPGS-Satellites (SBAS) are in sight.
- Recursive retrieval of geocaches. Download more geocaches with one click.
- bearing-hold function now works.
- better map drawing: see faster, which tiles are missing
- better hint decoding
- added python-json dependency
- Faster downloading of geocaches. 
- Removed exporting function until it is adapted to the new downloader 
- Smaller default size for use on netbooks

* To have all the images of a cache available, re-download your geocaches. 

The package is available as a PyPi-package for all newer python
distributions. For Ubuntu, all you have to do is:
sudo apt-get install python-setuptools
sudo easy_install agtl

An (slightly outdated) debian package for older python distributions is
available (see
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=agtlsearchon=namessuite=allsection=all
).

These are the features of the new CLI:

./agtl set [options]
Change the configuration.
./agtl import [importactions] 
Fetch geocaches from geocaching.com and write to the internal
database.
./agtl import [importactions] do [actions]
Fetch geocaches from geocaching.com, put them into the internal
database and do whatever actions are listed.
./agtl filter [filter-options] do [actions]
Query the internal database for geocaches and do the desired
actions.
./agtl import [importactions] filter [filter-options] do [actions]
Import geocaches, put them into the internal database, filter the
imported geocaches and run the actions. 
./agtl sql SELECT * FROM geocaches WHERE ... ORDER BY ... LIMIT ... do
[actions]
Select geocaches from local database and run the actions afterwards.
Additional use of the filter is also supported. To get more information, run
./agtl sql.
options:
--user(name) username
--pass(word) password
Your geocaching.com login data. 
importactions:
--in coord1 coord2
Fetches the index of geocaches between the given
coordinates.
These are interpreted as the corners of a rectangle. All
caches
within the rectangle are retrieved. No details are
retrieved.
--around coord radius-in-km
Fetches the index of geocaches at the given coordinate and
radius
kilometers around it. No details are retrieved.

filter-options:
--in coord1 coord2
--around coord1 radius-in-km
See import actions.
-f|--found
-F|--not-found
Filter out geocaches which have (not) been found by the
user.
-w|--was-downloaded
caches which have full detail information available

-s|--size (min|max) 1..4|micro|small|regular|huge|other
Specify a minimum or maximum size. If min/max is not given,
show
only geocaches with the given size.
-d|--difficulty (min|max) 1.0..5.0
-t|--terrain (min|max) 1.0..5.0
Filter out geocaches by difficulty or terrain.
-T|--type type,type,...
 type: virtual|regular|unknown|multi|event
Only show geocaches of the given type(s)
-o|--owner owner-search-string
-n|--name name-search-string
-i|--id id-search-string
Search owner, name (title) or id of the geocaches.
--new
Caches which were downloaded in current session. Useful to
get alerted when new caches arrive.
actions:
--print 
Default action, prints tab-separated list of geocaches
--fetch-details
Downloads Descriptions etc. for selected geocaches
--export-html folder
Dumps HTML pages to given folder
--command command
Runs command if more than one geocache has survived the
filtering.
The placeholder %s is replaced by a shell-escaped list of
geocaches.

Not implemented yet:
--export-gpx folder
Dumps geocaches into separate GPX files
--export-single-gpx file
Dumps selected geocaches into a single GPX file
--draw-map zoom file
Draws one big JPEG file with the positions of the selected
geocaches
--draw-maps zoom folder [tiles]
Draws a small JPEG image for every geocache. 

Preferred format for coordinates:
'N49 44.111 E6 29.123'
or
'N49.123456 E6.043212'

Instead of a coordinate, you may 

Re: Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux - Version 0.4.0

2009-10-06 Thread D. Fett



D. Fett wrote:
 
 A new version is out and there are lots of new features:
 

The 'send' button was too close to my mouse pointer, sorry! ;-)

The package is available here: http://www.opkg.org/package_268.html
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Re: Rod Whitby (MokoMakefile author) moves on to start WebOS Internals

2009-10-06 Thread Tilman Baumann
Thank you anyway. Traitor! :)
And ROFL about the northern hemisphere chauvinism issue with your GPS. *g*
I hope that is not a omen...

See you back ;)

Rod Whitby wrote:
 http://www.rwhitby.net/blog/webos-internals/palm-pre-lands-in-australia.html

 It is with some sadness that I must say goodbye to the OpenMoko
 community, and move on to new things.



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Re: Advanced Geocaching Tool for Linux - Version 0.4.0

2009-10-06 Thread Petr Vanek
The 'send' button was too close to my mouse pointer, sorry! ;-)

The package is available here: http://www.opkg.org/package_268.html

it's working for me now (the previous version for some reason didn't
get any caches) i have to say i have neglected GC for some time now
also due to not being able to run of freerunner, so thank you!

Petr


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Re: [pkg-fso-maint] WiFi-Tool (or GPRS-Tool modified)

2009-10-06 Thread Esteban Monge
Hello Al Johnson recommends use the next command:

mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage
org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy WiFi enabled

But send the next error:
ERROR:dbus.connection:Unable to set arguments ('WiFi',) according to
signature
u'ss': type 'exceptions.TypeError': More items found in D-Bus signature
than in Python arguments

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Re: [pkg-fso-maint] WiFi-Tool (or GPRS-Tool modified)

2009-10-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 06 October 2009, Esteban Monge wrote:
 Hello Al Johnson recommends use the next command:
 
 mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage
 org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy WiFi enabled
 
 But send the next error:
 ERROR:dbus.connection:Unable to set arguments ('WiFi',) according to
 signature
 u'ss': type 'exceptions.TypeError': More items found in D-Bus signature
 than in Python arguments

The command listed above works for me. If I remove the 'enabled' argument I 
get the error you quote.

SetResourcePolicy takes two arguments. The first is the resource, in this case 
'WiFi'. The second is the policy you want to set, in this case 'enabled'. 

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USB networking with Ubuntu 9.04

2009-10-06 Thread Tony Berth
followed as described in:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking

-
 Ubuntu 9.04 - the Jaunty Jackalope -- udev

One can see /etc/udev/rules.d that a device plugged in on USB will be called
*eth1*. Go to system-Administration-Network and add the parameters for
eth1  static ip, address 192.168.0.200 mask 255.255.255.192 add your
default gateway. Thats is all.

Tested with Qi bootloader aka official MAC address of the Freerunner : on
Android Koolu beta 7

Carig Philippines
--frankhttp://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=User:Frankaction=edit14:11,
17 June 2009 (UTC)

--

and eth1 gets assigned the proper IP address. I can connect to Neo but from
there I don't have any connection to the 'outside'. Please notice that
resolv.conf has the correct Opendns IPs!


Actually I should face the same problem as described in:

http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td3119750

but the postings there weren't of any help :(


Thanks


Tony
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Re: [pkg-fso-maint] WiFi-Tool (or GPRS-Tool modified)

2009-10-06 Thread Esteban Monge
I use Debian, maybe some parts of FSO are too old...

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Re: [fso based] Simplified mixer app

2009-10-06 Thread Mikhail Umorin
Thanks for the app, Al (see below)

On Monday 05 October 2009 19:43:37 Al Johnson wrote:
 On Friday 02 October 2009, Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
  On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Laszlo KREKACS
 
  laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote:
   But there is so many things what changed, that Im completely lost.
 
  Just wanted to notice you, that restoring the original
  gsmhandset.state file (and rebooting)
  does solve my problem. Im able to take call, and hear the other party.
  (and he able to hear me).
 
  Although your program was nice. It changed the mic way better, what I
  had. Other party
  said, its much louder and clearer.
 
  Hope you can sort out, why the broken .state file is broken. And where
  the bugs comes from ...

 Updated version now available:
 http://www.mazikeen.demon.co.uk/openmoko/fso-simplemixer.py


In simple view if I slide volume all the way to the right, it goes to 101 
(not 100) is that correct?

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Re: Universal Remote for CE/HA? (openmoko)

2009-10-06 Thread Jed
 Psion 5, 5mx, Ericsson mc218. Slow cpu, limited memory, monochrome and old 
 kernel, but excellent battery life on a pair of AAs. Probably not the form 
 factor you're after though.
 
 Interesting idea thanks, perhaps a tad too old though as you say.
 I'd prefer a form-factor closer to a standard remote but with an LCD, 
 ideally touch-screen but not imperative.

 Neuros OSD - for a low power consumption ethernet to IR gateway
 and standard def media player. Again probably not what you're
 after.
 
 Yeah really looking for hand-held device but thanks!
 
 My own initial idea was, of course, to just find a handheld device
 with inbuilt IR functionality, but then not only did I see that there
 was the issue of finding something with `inbuilt IR' functionality at
 all, but that the meaning of IR actually varied (computing devices
 support IRDA; TVs and other such devices use different protocols, and
 it appeared that an IRDA device may not be able to support any of the
 non-IRDA protocols). Also, prior to the FreeRunner, I found it
 difficult to justify to myself the idea spending $500 or more on a
 more functionally-limited device like an iPaq or something that would
 probably just end up being a $500+ TV remote control.
 
 But then I got an OSD and realised that it came with a IR dongle and
 that I could use it as a gateway, which made the problem easier.
 
 One of the interesting things about the IR functionality of the OSD,
 though, is that it doesn't appear to be built-in to the OSD per
 se--the IR transmitter is a small device that just connects to the
 OSD's serial port.
 
 I believe that there are universal `consumer electronics'-type IR
 transceivers (UIRT) currently on the market that function as USB
 devices, and some of them are even quite cheap--in the worst case,
 this might be a less-invasive option: to simply plug one of these into
 a FreeRunner's USB port.

Nah if I can't find something that has Consumer_IR integrated I'll just
persevere with my X50V. If it turns out to be too limited longer-term
for other reasons, then I'll just start excluding IR as a prerequisite
for any replacement.

I'll still have the IR bridge functionality built into my controller PC
 that's all that really matters in the end.

I haven't decided on the exact IR transceiver yet, but it'll be from one
of the these three vendors: Iguana, IRTrans, CommandIR. The others have
been ruled out.

I'm thinking the IR bridge functionality would be best built into my
pre-existing HTPC. Bridging for other protocols will prolly be done by a
2nd controller PC (the primary HA controller), which will be a VM on my
native VMM server.

Cheers,
Jed


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Re: [fso based] Simplified mixer app

2009-10-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 06 October 2009, Mikhail Umorin wrote:
 Thanks for the app, Al (see below)
 
 On Monday 05 October 2009 19:43:37 Al Johnson wrote:
  On Friday 02 October 2009, Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
   On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Laszlo KREKACS
  
   laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote:
But there is so many things what changed, that Im completely lost.
  
   Just wanted to notice you, that restoring the original
   gsmhandset.state file (and rebooting)
   does solve my problem. Im able to take call, and hear the other party.
   (and he able to hear me).
  
   Although your program was nice. It changed the mic way better, what I
   had. Other party
   said, its much louder and clearer.
  
   Hope you can sort out, why the broken .state file is broken. And where
   the bugs comes from ...
 
  Updated version now available:
  http://www.mazikeen.demon.co.uk/openmoko/fso-simplemixer.py
 
 In simple view if I slide volume all the way to the right, it goes to 101
 (not 100) is that correct?

That depends which slider it is ;-)

It is correct. I map the alsa channels to a single slider giving equal 
increments covering the full range possible from those channels. For the 
outputs this is usually gives steps 0 to 101 while for the mic it is usually 0 
to 119. If you uncomment self.gta02mixer.PrintGains() and start it from the 
cli it will show you the gain setting in dB for each step in the debug output. 
Unfortunately pyalsaaudio only accepts integer percentages when setting 
volume, so there are rounding errors when actually setting the volumes. 

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Re: Internal pressure sensor

2009-10-06 Thread Stroller

On 6 Oct 2009, at 02:18, Werner Almesberger wrote:
 Stroller wrote:
 This barometer is self-contained and connected to the i2c bus, a
 _relatively_ simple addition. If there is demand for the barometer -
 although I'm inclined to agree with Rask that there wouldn't be -  
 then
 it might it be justified to add it were Brazil ever to go into
 Freerunner production.

 Here's where Open Design Hardware changes the scenario: if you have an
 (open) base product, you can design, produce, and deploy small changes
 for a special interest group at a comparably low price - a bit higher
 than if the change was part of the mass-produced design, but
 considerably lower than any traditional alternatives.

 software installed. The software would have to be closed-source,
 [... more horror material ...]

 Why bother ? Even if we assume for a moment that you can't make money
 selling unencumbered software, you'd have the enhanced hardware
 already as a kind of dongle. Also, since this would be a highly
 specialized niche product, I would expect customer loyalty to be high.



Honestly? To add the barometer appears a very easy task. It involves  
soldering two wires, right?

If you were to start a business based on this, you might charge $100  
markup to make the modification but also to cover the cost of the full- 
time job writing and supporting the software. I think more might even  
be reasonable, or you might have tiered packages depending upon  
software features.

The Freerunner is readily available mail order - if a student in your  
local town were to offer to upgrade the hardware for $20, sorry, I  
think the business would be completely undermined. And there are Linux- 
competent students in every town - the dongle, as you call it, is  
too easily manufactured by anyone. I love  believe in Free software,  
but I just don't know that it's realistic to expect to make money out  
of it that way. Were I ever - as a sole-trader presently - to write  
commercial code, I would probably GPL it in my will.

Rau1 remarks on the readability of the screen - he surely is far more  
familiar with the current state of the sport than I am, since I have  
not flown in 5 years. In this case it might be better to base a design  
on a custom Gumstix-based board and a black-and-white screen, so the  
discussion becomes entirely moot.

Stroller.


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Re: Paroli Theme/UI proposals

2009-10-06 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Jon Kristian Nilsen
jokr.nil...@gmail.com wrote:
 For instance font-sizes should imho be adjustable by the app, not
 locked to a theme.

I do believe, it is also beneficial to adjust the overall look to it.
My view is pretty
much summerized in jimmac's blogpost:
http://jimmac.musichall.cz/log/?p=31

Although its not an icon, but the analogy its quite perfect.

Best regards,
 Laszlo

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Re: Rod Whitby (MokoMakefile author) moves on to start WebOS Internals

2009-10-06 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/10/6 Rod Whitby r...@whitby.id.au:
 http://www.rwhitby.net/blog/webos-internals/palm-pre-lands-in-australia.html

 It is with some sadness that I must say goodbye to the OpenMoko
 community, and move on to new things.

 My dream of an OpenMoko phone with a hardware keyboard to replace my
 aging Treo 650 was never realised, and you all know the rest of the
 story on the software side of things.

 I've now started a new community (webos-internals.org) which does open
 source Linux-based development for the Palm Pre.

 My hope is that freesmartphone.org may one day be the bridge between
 the OpenMoko community I am now leaving, and the WebOS Internals
 community which has recently started.

 I wish everyone continuing down the OpenMoko path the best of success
 in the future.

 -- Rod
Hi Rod, thanks for your all your work on lower the barrier of OE hell
for a newbee like me,
and thanks for your private lessons about GPL licencing and nettiquete
I have learned a lot thanks to you,
I will follow your work whit the Pre close, I like to see little
devices with a free hackable penguin inside :)

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Openmoko, Openpandora,  Arduino
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Re: USB networking with Ubuntu 9.04

2009-10-06 Thread Frederik Sdun
* Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com [06.10.2009 18:06]:
followed as described in:
 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking
 
-
 
   Ubuntu 9.04 - the Jaunty Jackalope -- udev
 
One can see /etc/udev/rules.d that a device plugged in on USB will be
called eth1. Go to system-Administration-Network and add the parameters
for eth1  static ip, address 192.168.0.200 mask 255.255.255.192 add your
default gateway. Thats is all.
 
Tested with Qi bootloader aka official MAC address of the Freerunner : on
Android Koolu beta 7
 
Carig Philippines --frank 14:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 
--
 
and eth1 gets assigned the proper IP address. I can connect to Neo but
from there I don't have any connection to the 'outside'. Please notice
that resolv.conf has the correct Opendns IPs!
 
Actually I should face the same problem as described in:
 
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td3119750
 
but the postings there weren't of any help :(
 
Thanks
 
Tony
I used the config you can find in [0] and it works.


[0] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others
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Bug in Handheld-Linux webshop solved

2009-10-06 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi all,
if you have tried to use our Openmoko webshop in the last days with  
FireFox / IceWeasel / SeaMonkey, you may have experienced that the  
shopping cart was automatically deleted when trying to checkout. This  
effect did not happen with using e.g. Safari.

We have now found why, and that may be interesting for PHP script  
writers...

The reason was that a recent upgrade of libphp5.so and /usr/bin/php  
made the function date(d M Y) no longer display the current year but  
. For scripts using this PHP function this would just look  
strange, but the main issue was that the expiration date of cookies  
sent to your browser is obviously derived from the same library  
function. So our shopping cart cookie was tagged with an expiration  
date 06-Oct-. Now it looks as if Safari simply ignores the  
expiration date (but stores the cookie) while FireFox discards the  
whole cookie - and the shopping cart contents were lost. Therefore, we  
hat different browser behaviour.

Now we have fixed this and everything is well again.

And thanks to one of our community members from Italy for pointing out  
to use IceWeasel (while we usually do tests with a Mac and Safari).

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RE: [SHR-U / All?] Illume Keyboard in Landscape

2009-10-06 Thread Russell Dwiggins
|On 3 Oct 2009, at 19:04, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
| Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com writes:
| ...
| But I already told you - you don't have to restart whole E. Just
| enter
| to keyboard menu in illume wrench, select none, and then default (it
| will restart illume keyboard). And it'll work just nicely.
|
| I don't even need to do *that*: I've always just tapped the `qwerty'
| box (in the top-right corner, in the default theme), and the keyboard
| pops up perfectly fine even in landscape mode. I don't understand what
| you guys are talking about--should that not be working for me?
|
|On my Freerunner - running SHR-unstable - the qwuerty is not visible
|in the top-right corner by default. You have to press the wrench to
|pull out the top tray. Then the qwerty is visible and pressing it
|operates the keyboard. I believe this is what Sebastian is explaining.
|
|Stroller.
|

I don't think so.  

Many of us have the problem where the keyboard does not show completely in
landscape mode.  My understanding of the work-around is to select none
then illume in the illume wrench settings.  I've tried this and it works,
but you have to do it again when you switch back to portrait since the
keyboard doesn't resize.

I'll use this as a workaround, but I'm hoping the updated version will fix
the issue.  Sebastian, Is that slated to be added to SHR soon?

Thanks, 
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Re: USB networking with Ubuntu 9.04

2009-10-06 Thread Tony Berth
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Frederik Sdun frederik.s...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 * Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com [06.10.2009 18:06]:
 followed as described in:
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking
 
 -
 
Ubuntu 9.04 - the Jaunty Jackalope -- udev
 
 One can see /etc/udev/rules.d that a device plugged in on USB will be
 called eth1. Go to system-Administration-Network and add the
 parameters
 for eth1  static ip, address 192.168.0.200 mask 255.255.255.192 add
 your
 default gateway. Thats is all.
 
 Tested with Qi bootloader aka official MAC address of the Freerunner :
 on
 Android Koolu beta 7
 
 Carig Philippines --frank 14:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 
 --
 
 and eth1 gets assigned the proper IP address. I can connect to Neo but
 from there I don't have any connection to the 'outside'. Please notice
 that resolv.conf has the correct Opendns IPs!
 
 Actually I should face the same problem as described in:
 
 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td3119750
 
 but the postings there weren't of any help :(
 
 Thanks
 
 Tony
 I used the config you can find in [0] and it works.


 [0]
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others
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but this one 'ties' it in usb0 although it connects as eth1! How can this
work?

I also used the following entries in /etc/network/interfaces:

#freerunner3
allow-hotplug eth1
iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.0.200
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0
up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 
up echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 
up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT 
down iptables -D POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 

and didn't work! Openmoko wasn't able to get an IP address at all!

Thanks

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Re: USB networking with Ubuntu 9.04

2009-10-06 Thread Matthias Huber

Tony Berth schrieb:
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Frederik Sdun 
frederik.s...@googlemail.com mailto:frederik.s...@googlemail.com 
wrote:


* Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com
mailto:tonybe...@googlemail.com [06.10.2009 18:06]:
followed as described in:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking

-

   Ubuntu 9.04 - the Jaunty Jackalope -- udev

One can see /etc/udev/rules.d that a device plugged in on USB
will be
called eth1. Go to system-Administration-Network and add
the parameters
for eth1  static ip, address 192.168.0.200 mask
255.255.255.192 add your
default gateway. Thats is all.

Tested with Qi bootloader aka official MAC address of the
Freerunner : on
Android Koolu beta 7

Carig Philippines --frank 14:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

--

and eth1 gets assigned the proper IP address. I can connect
to Neo but
from there I don't have any connection to the 'outside'.
Please notice
that resolv.conf has the correct Opendns IPs!

Actually I should face the same problem as described in:

http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td3119750

but the postings there weren't of any help :(

Thanks

Tony
I used the config you can find in [0] and it works.


[0]
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others
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but this one 'ties' it in usb0 although it connects as eth1! How can 
this work?


I also used the following entries in /etc/network/interfaces:

#freerunner3
allow-hotplug eth1
iface eth1 inet static
address 192.168.0.200
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.0.0
up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 
http://192.168.0.0/24 

up echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 
up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT 
down iptables -D POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 
http://192.168.0.0/24 


and didn't work! Openmoko wasn't able to get an IP address at all!

get ip adress ? dont understand this.

but i had to add this two lines to my /etc/ufw/ufw.conf

ufw allow from 192.168.0.202
ufw allow to 192.168.0.202


another trial with iptables needs to load some modules too:

#!/bin/sh

MOKO=192.168.0.202

echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
modprobe ipt_MASQUERADE

iptables -I FORWARD -j ACCEPT -d ${MOKO}/32
iptables -I FORWARD -j ACCEPT -s ${MOKO}/32
iptables -I POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s ${MOKO}/32


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Re: [pkg-fso-maint] WiFi-Tool (or GPRS-Tool modified)

2009-10-06 Thread Sebastian Reichel
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 10:07:54AM -0600, Esteban Monge wrote:
 I use Debian, maybe some parts of FSO are too old...

probably not, we have a very recent git version, there are just some
opimd changes between our release and current git ;)

But I didn't update the configuration for the new framework yet, so
opimd is not yet enabled.

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Re: Rod Whitby (MokoMakefile author) moves on to start WebOS Internals

2009-10-06 Thread Sudharshan S
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Rod Whitby r...@whitby.id.au wrote:
 http://www.rwhitby.net/blog/webos-internals/palm-pre-lands-in-australia.html

 It is with some sadness that I must say goodbye to the OpenMoko community,
 and move on to new things.


So long and thanks for all the fish.. MokoMakefile was a neat script. :)

Regards
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Re: [pkg-fso-maint] WiFi-Tool (or GPRS-Tool modified)

2009-10-06 Thread Esteban Monge
I updated manually only frameworkd with
fso-frameworkd_0.9.5.9+git20090920-1_all.debhttp://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/fso-frameworkd/fso-frameworkd_0.9.5.9+git20090920-1_all.debpackage,
the rest is only updated with apt-get.

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Re: [SHR-U / All?] Illume Keyboard in Landscape

2009-10-06 Thread Stroller

On 5 Oct 2009, at 19:12, Russell Dwiggins wrote:

 |On 3 Oct 2009, at 19:04, Joshua Judson Rosen wrote:
 | Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com writes:
 | ...
 | But I already told you - you don't have to restart whole E. Just
 | enter
 | to keyboard menu in illume wrench, select none, and then default  
 (it
 | will restart illume keyboard). And it'll work just nicely.
 |
 | I don't even need to do *that*: I've always just tapped the  
 `qwerty'
 | box (in the top-right corner, in the default theme), and the  
 keyboard
 | pops up perfectly fine even in landscape mode. I don't understand  
 what
 | you guys are talking about--should that not be working for me?
 |
 |On my Freerunner - running SHR-unstable - the qwuerty is not visible
 |in the top-right corner by default. You have to press the wrench to
 |pull out the top tray. Then the qwerty is visible and pressing it
 |operates the keyboard. I believe this is what Sebastian is  
 explaining.
 |
 |Stroller.
 |

 I don't think so.

 Many of us have the problem where the keyboard does not show  
 completely in
 landscape mode.  My understanding of the work-around is to select  
 none
 then illume in the illume wrench settings.  I've tried this and it  
 works,
 but you have to do it again when you switch back to portrait since the
 keyboard doesn't resize.


Sorry, I read ALL these explanations as saying exactly the same thing,  
just in different ways. Perhaps you could clarify how they differ?

Stroller.


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Re: [fso based] Simplified mixer app

2009-10-06 Thread Mikhail Umorin
On Tuesday 06 October 2009 12:28:37 Al Johnson wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 October 2009, Mikhail Umorin wrote:
  Thanks for the app, Al (see below)
 
  On Monday 05 October 2009 19:43:37 Al Johnson wrote:
   On Friday 02 October 2009, Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Laszlo KREKACS
   
laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote:
 But there is so many things what changed, that Im completely lost.
   
Just wanted to notice you, that restoring the original
gsmhandset.state file (and rebooting)
does solve my problem. Im able to take call, and hear the other
party. (and he able to hear me).
   
Although your program was nice. It changed the mic way better, what I
had. Other party
said, its much louder and clearer.
   
Hope you can sort out, why the broken .state file is broken. And
where the bugs comes from ...
  
   Updated version now available:
   http://www.mazikeen.demon.co.uk/openmoko/fso-simplemixer.py
 
  In simple view if I slide volume all the way to the right, it goes to
  101 (not 100) is that correct?

 That depends which slider it is ;-)

 It is correct. I map the alsa channels to a single slider giving equal
 increments covering the full range possible from those channels. For the
 outputs this is usually gives steps 0 to 101 while for the mic it is
 usually 0 to 119. If you uncomment self.gta02mixer.PrintGains() and start
 it from the cli it will show you the gain setting in dB for each step in
 the debug output. Unfortunately pyalsaaudio only accepts integer
 percentages when setting volume, so there are rounding errors when actually
 setting the volumes.


I was talking about Stereo Out for Speaker (when not in call). Sorry to be 
unclear. So, how does the simple slider correspond to Bypass and Headphone 
in the advanced view? Or are those things all different controls? Moving the 
simple speaker slider seem to change Bypass and Headphone, but at different 
rates for different ranges of the simple slider.  When I max out the simple 
slider (to 101), bypass and headphone are at 100, but at lower simple slider 
settings they change very non-linear.

This was probably discussed numerous times. But your visual  application makes 
the channels easier to control and I finally feel that I have a chance to get 
the volume I want during calls. It's all so confusing What's a good place 
to learn the relations between all the channels/controls/bugs that make sound?




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Re: [SHR-U / All?] Illume Keyboard in Landscape

2009-10-06 Thread undrwater



Stroller-2 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Sorry, I read ALL these explanations as saying exactly the same thing,  
 just in different ways. Perhaps you could clarify how they differ?
 
 Stroller.
 
 
Hm.  I read:
Problem 1: illume keyboard in landscape mode does not show (the keyboard
itself doesn't show, only the prediction window and keyboard selector)

Problem 2: qwerty button is hidden in shelf gadget and requires 2 taps to
bring it up

I posted problem 1, I think you understood problem 2.  Am I right?

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Re: [fso based] Simplified mixer app

2009-10-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 07 October 2009, Mikhail Umorin wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 October 2009 12:28:37 Al Johnson wrote:
  On Tuesday 06 October 2009, Mikhail Umorin wrote:
   Thanks for the app, Al (see below)
  
   On Monday 05 October 2009 19:43:37 Al Johnson wrote:
On Friday 02 October 2009, Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Laszlo KREKACS

 laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote:
  But there is so many things what changed, that Im completely
  lost.

 Just wanted to notice you, that restoring the original
 gsmhandset.state file (and rebooting)
 does solve my problem. Im able to take call, and hear the other
 party. (and he able to hear me).

 Although your program was nice. It changed the mic way better, what
 I had. Other party
 said, its much louder and clearer.

 Hope you can sort out, why the broken .state file is broken. And
 where the bugs comes from ...
   
Updated version now available:
http://www.mazikeen.demon.co.uk/openmoko/fso-simplemixer.py
  
   In simple view if I slide volume all the way to the right, it goes to
   101 (not 100) is that correct?
 
  That depends which slider it is ;-)
 
  It is correct. I map the alsa channels to a single slider giving equal
  increments covering the full range possible from those channels. For the
  outputs this is usually gives steps 0 to 101 while for the mic it is
  usually 0 to 119. If you uncomment self.gta02mixer.PrintGains() and start
  it from the cli it will show you the gain setting in dB for each step in
  the debug output. Unfortunately pyalsaaudio only accepts integer
  percentages when setting volume, so there are rounding errors when
  actually setting the volumes.
 
 I was talking about Stereo Out for Speaker (when not in call). Sorry to be
 unclear. So, how does the simple slider correspond to Bypass and
  Headphone in the advanced view? Or are those things all different
  controls? Moving the simple speaker slider seem to change Bypass and
  Headphone, but at different rates for different ranges of the simple
  slider.  When I max out the simple slider (to 101), bypass and headphone
  are at 100, but at lower simple slider settings they change very
  non-linear.

The 'simple' slider controls all the sliders in that group in the 'advanced' 
view to give smooth control of the overall volume. In this case that's Bypass 
and Headphone. The changes in individual controls may look nonlinear, but 
their combination produces even steps while avoiding combinations likely to 
cause distortion. That's the idea anyway. You can see the combinations in the 
lookup tables in the top 3/4 of the script if you're interested.

 This was probably discussed numerous times. But your visual  application
  makes the channels easier to control and I finally feel that I have a
  chance to get the volume I want during calls.

Great! That was the intention.

  It's all so confusing

So people tell me ;-) Compared to most instrumentation systems it's a breeze!

  What's a good place to learn the relations between all the
  channels/controls/bugs that make sound?

Start with the wiki. The Neo1973 page has an annotated block diagram that's 
actually for the Freerunner. Both pages give some info on which volume 
settings affect what in different alsa states. With the information there, and 
by looking at the alsa state files, you will be able to see how the switch 
settings route audio signals through the mixer chip. You can then refer to the 
Wolfson datasheet.

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_audio_subsystem
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem

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Re: [SHR-U / All?] Illume Keyboard in Landscape

2009-10-06 Thread Stroller

On 7 Oct 2009, at 00:26, undrwater wrote:
 ...
 Sorry, I read ALL these explanations as saying exactly the same  
 thing,
 just in different ways. Perhaps you could clarify how they differ?


 Hm.  I read:
 Problem 1: illume keyboard in landscape mode does not show (the  
 keyboard
 itself doesn't show, only the prediction window and keyboard selector)

 Problem 2: qwerty button is hidden in shelf gadget and requires 2  
 taps to
 bring it up

 I posted problem 1, I think you understood problem 2.  Am I right?

Item 2 (I find that a problem, too) is discussed in this thread  
because it's necessary to go through this procedure to overcome  
problem 1.

In this thread this pair of actions was originally described by  
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak in his post of 3 October 2009 14:55:51 BST.

Joshua Judson Rosen's post of 3 October 2009 19:04:36 BST (I don't  
understand what you guys are talking about) may indicate that he  
doesn't suffer from problem 2.

Stroller.


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Re: [SHR-U / All?] Illume Keyboard in Landscape

2009-10-06 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes:

 On 7 Oct 2009, at 00:26, undrwater wrote:
  ...
  Sorry, I read ALL these explanations as saying exactly the same  
  thing,
  just in different ways. Perhaps you could clarify how they differ?
 
 
  Hm.  I read:
  Problem 1: illume keyboard in landscape mode does not show (the  
  keyboard
  itself doesn't show, only the prediction window and keyboard selector)
 
  Problem 2: qwerty button is hidden in shelf gadget and requires 2  
  taps to
  bring it up
 
  I posted problem 1, I think you understood problem 2.  Am I right?
 
 Item 2 (I find that a problem, too) is discussed in this thread  
 because it's necessary to go through this procedure to overcome  
 problem 1.
 
 In this thread this pair of actions was originally described by  
 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak in his post of 3 October 2009 14:55:51 BST.
 
 Joshua Judson Rosen's post of 3 October 2009 19:04:36 BST (I don't  
 understand what you guys are talking about) may indicate that he  
 doesn't suffer from problem 2.

This is my experience:

If the screen is already in landscape mode when the keyboard pops
up, then the keyboaprd appears perfectly fine.

Only if the keyboard is already shown prior to rotating the
display, then it doesn't show properly when the display arrives in
landscape mode.

In this second case, the only steps required to fix the keyboard
is to hide and then show it by:

0] Lowering the shelf and tapping qwerty
   (to hide the keyboard).
1] Lowering the shelf and tapping qwerty again
   (to re-show the keyboard).

This does /not/ involve the `wrench', or changing any
settings. The word none is not involved, nor is the word default.

And, again: if the screen is rotated into landscape mode prior to
the keyboard becoming visible, this procedure is not even
necessary as the keyboard `just works'.


Contrariwise, situation that I read Sebastian, Petr, et al. describing is:

The keyboard does not appear properly in landscape mode,
regardless of whether the display is rotated before or after the
keyboard appears. If the screen is already in landscape mode when
the keyboard pops up, the keyboard does *not* appear correctly.

To make the keyboard appear properly in landscape mode, *this*
following procedure must be repeated each time the screen is
rotated:

0] Lower the shelf and tap the `wrench' icon.
2] Select Keyboard in the menu that appears.
3] Select the None radiobutton in the screen that appears.
4] Select the Default radiobutton (in the same screen,
   which remains until the Close button is pressed).

[And, since I haven't actually seen /this/ scenario myself,
 I'm assuming that the following step is also needed:]

5] If the keyboard is not showing now, lower the shelf
   and tap qwerty to show it.


The two situations (and procedures) look *remarkably* different to me.

If this is unclear, I can probably post a video demonstrating my
experience

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Re: USB networking with Ubuntu 9.04

2009-10-06 Thread Cristian Gómez
Hi, What I do to connect the FreeRunner to the PC is running this script [1]
that I've made with the things listed on the wiki. To run it just type sudo
sh usb_networking.sh.

I used it on Arch Linux and Ubuntu and I think it works on every distro as
well. Any changes, suggestions are welcome. Currently it's on spanish.

Note: The script is configured for SHR so it uses the eth1 interface not the
usb0

[1] http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zm0gtz2tyjq

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2009/10/6 Matthias Huber matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de

  Tony Berth schrieb:

 On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Frederik Sdun 
 frederik.s...@googlemail.com wrote:

 * Tony Berth tonybe...@googlemail.com [06.10.2009 18:06]:
  followed as described in:
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking
 
 -
 
Ubuntu 9.04 - the Jaunty Jackalope -- udev
 
 One can see /etc/udev/rules.d that a device plugged in on USB will be
 called eth1. Go to system-Administration-Network and add the
 parameters
 for eth1  static ip, address 192.168.0.200 mask 255.255.255.192 add
 your
 default gateway. Thats is all.
 
 Tested with Qi bootloader aka official MAC address of the Freerunner
 : on
 Android Koolu beta 7
 
 Carig Philippines --frank 14:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
 
 --
 
 and eth1 gets assigned the proper IP address. I can connect to Neo
 but
 from there I don't have any connection to the 'outside'. Please
 notice
 that resolv.conf has the correct Opendns IPs!
 
 Actually I should face the same problem as described in:
 
 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td3119750
 
 but the postings there weren't of any help :(
 
 Thanks
 
 Tony
  I used the config you can find in [0] and it works.


 [0]
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others
  ___


 but this one 'ties' it in usb0 although it connects as eth1! How can this
 work?

 I also used the following entries in /etc/network/interfaces:

 #freerunner3
 allow-hotplug eth1
 iface eth1 inet static
 address 192.168.0.200
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 network 192.168.0.0
 up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 
 up echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 
 up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT 
 down iptables -D POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 

 and didn't work! Openmoko wasn't able to get an IP address at all!

 get ip adress ? dont understand this.

 but i had to add this two lines to my /etc/ufw/ufw.conf

 ufw allow from 192.168.0.202
 ufw allow to 192.168.0.202


 another trial with iptables needs to load some modules too:

 #!/bin/sh

 MOKO=192.168.0.202

 echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
 modprobe ipt_MASQUERADE

 iptables -I FORWARD -j ACCEPT -d ${MOKO}/32
 iptables -I FORWARD -j ACCEPT -s ${MOKO}/32
 iptables -I POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s ${MOKO}/32


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I buy FreeRunner on Europe

2009-10-06 Thread Cristian Gómez
Hi guys, I've seen some posts offering used FreeRunner's on Europe but I
don't if any of the offers is available right now.

I have a friend on France who's interested on buying a FR hopefully on
France or other European country where the sheep taxes are none or cheaper
than from US.

Thanks for you attention

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Re: OM-Showroom Something to show

2009-10-06 Thread Cristian Gómez
I only want to say that you're doing an amazing work with the OM-ShowRoom,
if things keep going this way, sooner than later we'll have a great portal
to handle all the things that application's public delivering involves.

Thank you again

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2009/10/3 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com

 2009/10/3 Markus Törnqvist m...@nysv.org:
  On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 03:04:45AM +0200, David Reyes Samblas Martinez
 wrote:
 take a look here[1] for some screenshots and explanations :)
 Please comments and of course collaboration :)
 
 [1]http://www.tuxbrain.com/en/content/om-showroom-something-show
 
  !!!
 
  I still have lots of unread email about this, but I'm happy to see things
  are still progressing :)
 
  There should probably be a closed beta before the public launch!
 Knowing me andmy coding habilities, the amount of features left to
 code, and the multi source,multi platform nature of the
 project...surelly it will still beta a long time AFTER the public
 release :P
 
  Thanks, guys!
 
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