Re: [SHR-U latest] removing mplayer icon

2009-10-12 Thread Tony Berth
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Michele Brocco ssj2mi...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 10/10/09, Lars Hennig n...@el-hennig.de wrote:
  Am Samstag 10 Oktober 2009 schrieb Tony Berth:
  that's exactly the problem! There is no mplayer.desktop in that dir!
 
  At first boot you can add applications to quicklauncher (?). If I
 remember
  correctly Mplayer was set there as default.
 
  I am not sure if that is the correct name. I don't know exactly how you
 can
  remove the applications from there.
 
 
 I had the same problem. There are some more .desktop files under your
 home directory in some hidden subfolder (if I remember it was
 ~/.local/share/applications/). just look for them with find -name
 *.desktop from your home folder and u will find also the
 mplayer.desktop file.



indeed the path is:

/home/root/.local/share/applications/mplayer.desktop

Thanks

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Re: ElmDentica 0.7.0 is out!

2009-10-12 Thread Frederik Sdun
* Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org [11.10.2009 01:49]:
 Hi everyone! ElmDentica hasn’t had a new release for a while (*cough*cough*
 proving it works so well *cough*cough*), so I though I should share with you
 the new stuff in the development of this release.
 
 The news are:
 
 * Replacement of the side buttons by hover’s fired up by pressing for
 * about 1s over the bubble
 * Usage of inwins for entering user and domain data in the settings
 * window
 * Usage of hoversel to gain a few more space on the toolbar, specially
 * for future features
 
 http://files.1407.org/openmoko/elmdentica/elmdentica-0.7.0-scap.png
 
 http://files.1407.org/openmoko/elmdentica/elmdentica-0.7.0-scap-2.png
 
 So that’s about it… you can get the package from the usual places, the
 project’s web-site, by upgrading shr-unstable as it upgrades elmdentica on
 next autobuild, building it yourself, etc…
 
 * http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica-0.7.0.tar.gz
 * http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica-0.7.0.tar.gz.asc
 * http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica_0.7.0-r4_armv4t.ipk
 * 
 http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica_0.7.0-r4_armv4t.ipk.asc
 
 Enjoy! :)
 
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Hi,
nice screenshots. Do you use bitbake or the toolchain to build the
packages? I couldn't start it until i linked some elm libs.
SHR already builds from your svn repository, so we only have to change
the version.

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Re: ElmDentica 0.7.0 is out!

2009-10-12 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:17:57PM +0200, Frederik Sdun wrote:
 * Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org [11.10.2009 01:49]:
  Hi everyone! ElmDentica hasn’t had a new release for a while (*cough*cough*
  proving it works so well *cough*cough*), so I though I should share with you
  the new stuff in the development of this release.
  
  The news are:
  
  * Replacement of the side buttons by hover’s fired up by pressing for
  * about 1s over the bubble
  * Usage of inwins for entering user and domain data in the settings
  * window
  * Usage of hoversel to gain a few more space on the toolbar, specially
  * for future features
  
  http://files.1407.org/openmoko/elmdentica/elmdentica-0.7.0-scap.png
  
  http://files.1407.org/openmoko/elmdentica/elmdentica-0.7.0-scap-2.png
  
  So that’s about it… you can get the package from the usual places, the
  project’s web-site, by upgrading shr-unstable as it upgrades elmdentica on
  next autobuild, building it yourself, etc…
  
  * http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica-0.7.0.tar.gz
  * http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica-0.7.0.tar.gz.asc
  * http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica_0.7.0-r4_armv4t.ipk
  * 
  http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica_0.7.0-r4_armv4t.ipk.asc
  
  Enjoy! :)
  
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 Hi,
 nice screenshots. Do you use bitbake or the toolchain to build the
 packages? I couldn't start it until i linked some elm libs.
 SHR already builds from your svn repository, so we only have to change
 the version.

Bitbake. What shr are you using? I haven't had any problems with the package I
built on current shr-u, but that means only 1 in 1 samples haven't had problems 
:)

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Re: ElmDentica 0.7.0 is out!

2009-10-12 Thread Frederik Sdun
* Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org [12.10.2009 12:40]:
 On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 12:17:57PM +0200, Frederik Sdun wrote:
  * Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org [11.10.2009 01:49]:
   Hi everyone! ElmDentica hasn’t had a new release for a while 
   (*cough*cough*
   proving it works so well *cough*cough*), so I though I should share with 
   you
   the new stuff in the development of this release.
   
   The news are:
   
   * Replacement of the side buttons by hover’s fired up by pressing for
   * about 1s over the bubble
   * Usage of inwins for entering user and domain data in the settings
   * window
   * Usage of hoversel to gain a few more space on the toolbar, specially
   * for future features
   
   http://files.1407.org/openmoko/elmdentica/elmdentica-0.7.0-scap.png
   
   http://files.1407.org/openmoko/elmdentica/elmdentica-0.7.0-scap-2.png
   
   So that’s about it… you can get the package from the usual places, the
   project’s web-site, by upgrading shr-unstable as it upgrades elmdentica on
   next autobuild, building it yourself, etc…
   
   * http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica-0.7.0.tar.gz
   * http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica-0.7.0.tar.gz.asc
   * 
   http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica_0.7.0-r4_armv4t.ipk
   * 
   http://elmdentica.googlecode.com/files/elmdentica_0.7.0-r4_armv4t.ipk.asc
   
   Enjoy! :)
   
   Rui
   
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  Hi,
  nice screenshots. Do you use bitbake or the toolchain to build the
  packages? I couldn't start it until i linked some elm libs.
  SHR already builds from your svn repository, so we only have to change
  the version.
 
 Bitbake. What shr are you using? I haven't had any problems with the package I
 built on current shr-u, but that means only 1 in 1 samples haven't had 
 problems :)
 
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My own build works. But if I use your build i get the following error:

elmdentica: error while loading shared libraries:
libelementary-ver-svn-02.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such
file or directory

Maybe you have to update your E stuff first.

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Re: ElmDentica 0.7.0 is out!

2009-10-12 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 01:32:46PM +0200, Frederik Sdun wrote:
  Bitbake. What shr are you using? I haven't had any problems with the 
  package I
  built on current shr-u, but that means only 1 in 1 samples haven't had 
  problems :)
  
  Rui
 
 My own build works. But if I use your build i get the following error:
 
 elmdentica: error while loading shared libraries:
 libelementary-ver-svn-02.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such
 file or directory
 
 Maybe you have to update your E stuff first.

What SHR are you using? I'm using SHR-u and I don't run into that!

Rui

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Re: HOWTO: Sharing SHR-U GPRS to *buntu laptop

2009-10-12 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 11 October 2009, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote:
 On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 03:51:21PM +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
  As per mdbus --help, you need a busname and an objectname before the
  method -- you can gather these by recursively calling mdbus -s ...
 
 OK. Got it working:
 
 $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.onetworkd /org/freesmartphone/Network
  org.freesmartphone.Network.StartConnectionSharingWithInterface usb0
 
 I was able to access the DHCP server from my Eee PC running Jaunty by
 copying the MAC address from the static entry in network-manager, and
 created a new entry with the same MAC but DHCP rather than a static IP
 address.
 
 It seems very slow.
 
 ping www.google.com directly from the FR is ~750ms, from the Eee PC
 via the tether started on 2000ms and settled on 950. Is a 200ms
 difference to be expected?

Latency on GPRS is big and highly variable. That's the nature of GPRS, and one 
of the things that makes it unsuitable for VoIP. These numbers don't look 
unusual.

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Re: ElmDentica 0.7.0 is out!

2009-10-12 Thread Frederik Sdun
* Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org [12.10.2009 14:02]:
 On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 01:32:46PM +0200, Frederik Sdun wrote:
   Bitbake. What shr are you using? I haven't had any problems with the 
   package I
   built on current shr-u, but that means only 1 in 1 samples haven't had 
   problems :)
   
   Rui
  
  My own build works. But if I use your build i get the following error:
  
  elmdentica: error while loading shared libraries:
  libelementary-ver-svn-02.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such
  file or directory
  
  Maybe you have to update your E stuff first.
 
 What SHR are you using? I'm using SHR-u and I don't run into that!
 
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I'm building my own Image using the SHR Makefile. Anyone else has this
error?
On my image the libname is: libelementary-ver-pre-svn-04.so.0
If i link it to libelementary-ver-svn-02.so.0 it works.

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Re: ElmDentica 0.7.0 is out!

2009-10-12 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 02:29:55PM +0200, Frederik Sdun wrote:
 * Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org [12.10.2009 14:02]:
  On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 01:32:46PM +0200, Frederik Sdun wrote:
Bitbake. What shr are you using? I haven't had any problems with the 
package I
built on current shr-u, but that means only 1 in 1 samples haven't had 
problems :)

Rui
   
   My own build works. But if I use your build i get the following error:
   
   elmdentica: error while loading shared libraries:
   libelementary-ver-svn-02.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such
   file or directory
   
   Maybe you have to update your E stuff first.
  
  What SHR are you using? I'm using SHR-u and I don't run into that!
  
  Rui
  
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 I'm building my own Image using the SHR Makefile. Anyone else has this
 error?
 On my image the libname is: libelementary-ver-pre-svn-04.so.0
 If i link it to libelementary-ver-svn-02.so.0 it works.

Ah... so you have a more recent elementary!

There's reports of some broken things WRT EFL and Elementary...

Current SHR Unstable has /usr/lib/libelementary-ver-svn-02.so.0

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Re: uImage.bin v kernel.img

2009-10-12 Thread ghislain

uImage.bin (or uImage) is used for booting the installer which in turn
flashes the kernel.img to your Neo.
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[QTMoko] What is the best way of moving my home directory to the SD Card?

2009-10-12 Thread Roland Whitehead
I've just had the root directory on my FAT32 formatted SD card p1 get  
hosed (Stale NFS file handle) so I ask the very simple question:  
what is the best/most reliable way of moving my home directory from  
NAND to the SDCard? I have the whole of p1 available for my home  
directory so I could mount it as /home/root, I could exit the /etc/ 
passwd file or I could symlink it.

Ideally I'd love to have things like this in a How to page on the  
QTMoko wiki. Would anyone complain if I started such a page?

TIA

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Re: [QTMoko] What is the best way of moving my home directory to the SD Card?

2009-10-12 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
Il giorno lun, 12/10/2009 alle 15.16 +0100, Roland Whitehead ha scritto:
 I've just had the root directory on my FAT32 formatted SD card p1 get  
 hosed (Stale NFS file handle) so I ask the very simple question:  
 what is the best/most reliable way of moving my home directory from  
 NAND to the SDCard? I have the whole of p1 available for my home  
 directory so I could mount it as /home/root, I could exit the /etc/ 
 passwd file or I could symlink it.
 
 Ideally I'd love to have things like this in a How to page on the  
 QTMoko wiki. Would anyone complain if I started such a page?
 
 TIA
 
 Roland

The best way is to mount your partition on the home because a lot of sw
for the moko aren't coded well and uses always the /home/root as homedir
also if you have changed it.
Moreover mounting the partition gives you tha ability that if your sd
card is gone you can always use your phone with the home in the flash
empty dir used as mountpoint.

If you want more flexibility mount it with LABEL instead the device
name so that if the device name change your home isn't affcted.

Bye

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Re: Waterproof bag

2009-10-12 Thread Christian Rüb
Thank you both for your replies. Will go for medium and yes, I will find 
something for the extra space ;-)

mobi phil wrote:
 go for medium, you might want to put some dolarrs and other papers
 into it, when you go under water... :)
 
 On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Michael Sheldon m...@mikeasoft.com wrote:
  Hi Christian,
 
  Christian Rüb wrote:
  has anyone tried one of the waterproof (5m) bags from Aquapac?
  Is the mini [1] sufficient or is it too tight and it would be better to 
  use medium [2]?
 
   Yes, I have one, the mini is too small (it almost fits, but not quite),
   luckily Aquapac let me exchange it for a medium which fits without any
  problems (although there's a fair amount of excess space).
 
  Cheers,
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[SHR] getting an USB dongle to work

2009-10-12 Thread rhn
Today, I became an owner of a new shiny USB network device. Due to poor WiFi 
reception indoors, this is a wired Ethernet adapter.

On to the point - the device uses the dm9601 driver, which happens to be 
packaged in the SHR feeds. However, the driver is not loaded automatically, and 
doesn't work after manual modprobe  depmod.
Some research on the desktop showed that dm9601 depends on usb_net and mii. 
However, these two are not present in SHR feeds.

What else should I do to make it work? I'd prefer to avoid recompiling the 
kernel, but if nothing else works...

Cheers!
rhn

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Re: Internal pressure sensor

2009-10-12 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 07:05:00PM +0100, Stroller wrote:

 Honestly? To add the barometer appears a very easy task. It involves  
 soldering two wires, right?

   Strictly speaking, you need only solder the 3.3 V wire, because the rest
(GND, I2C data and I2C clock) are available at the debug connector. It sure
would have been easier to make addon modules, requiring no soldering from
the end user, if power had been available at the debug connector.

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Re: uImage.bin v kernel.img

2009-10-12 Thread ghislain

The 'workaround' is correct, that is exactly what the installer does, it
erases the correct mtd's and flashes the bootloader (qi.img), kernel
(kernel.img) and the rootfs (system.img). 
The installer also flashes the mtd for the userdata and extracts the
userdata.img to the folder /data of it.

This is all done in the init script of the former koolu-installer.


ran wrote:
 
 How ever the following work around seems to work for larlin atleast.
 Download the zip-file unzip the contents. Run the following dfu-util
 commands:
 
 dfu-util -a kernel -R -D kernel.img
 dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D system.img
 dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi.img
 

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Re: new Android Cupcake release for Freerunner

2009-10-12 Thread Levy
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 20:34, Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is so sad to hear google android without maps, gmail, etc... is there
 anyway to get those binaries and have them run on freerunner??

One time I made a test with Gmail.apk that I got from a G1 and did not
work! ! :-(

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#1024-Fix in switzerland

2009-10-12 Thread DRSp.
dear list,

I'm about organizing a #1024-fix-party just without the party-part 'cos 
there's a IT-firm involved.

to get a rough idea about how many FR's are to be fixed, drop a message 
in this list.


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[debian] unexpected troubles

2009-10-12 Thread Neil Jerram
Hi there...

Is this generally the best place for Debian questions?  Or is
smartphones-userland better?

I've just installed Debian again, and am surprised to be experiencing
some low-level problems.  Hopefully they are easily fixable.

As context, what I'm aiming at is:
- Debian - for the best available package management
- E17 + Illume - for Raster's keyboard, decent launcher and easy
switching between windows
- John Sullivan's fso-el - for performing phone functions from within Emacs.

I've installed e17, and the UI comes up as expected.  I set an overall
scaling factor of 2, to make everything easier to read and press.

The problems I'm seeing now are:

- Load average unreasonably high.  Right now, for example, my top says
load average: 8.11, 8.13, 8.09.  Yet CPU usage is only reaching
around 6%.

- Emacs never appears, yet can't be killed.  E.g. I clicked on the
launcher icon for Emacs about an hour ago, and nothing has appeared
yet.  ps waux shows that there is an emacs process:

root  1579  0.0   3.2   25700  3952 ?   DNs  17:44   0:00 /usr/bin/emacs23

But kill 1579 and kill -9 1579 seem to have no effect on this.

- Battery not apparently charging.  I'm using the USB lead from
another Linux computer, which successfully charges OM2009/Paroli and
SHR.  But with Debian there is no + on the battery icon, and no orange
(or blue) light behind the power button.

- ssh (via USB) not working.  The desktop end looks fine:

n...@arudy:~$ netstat -rn
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth1
192.168.11.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
0.0.0.0 192.168.11.10.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 eth0

but

n...@arudy:~$ ssh 192.168.0.202 -l root
ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host

- shutdown -h now doesn't work, and so I have no way of shutting
down cleanly.  I get a message saying that the system is going down,
but then nothing else happens.

Can anyone see the cause(s) of these problems and suggest how to fix them?

Thanks,
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Re: #1024-Fix in switzerland

2009-10-12 Thread Konrad Feldmeier
I'm interested although I'm not from switzerland but from Freiburg, germany...
cheers
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 dear list,
 
 I'm about organizing a #1024-fix-party just without the party-part 'cos 
 there's a IT-firm involved.
 
 to get a rough idea about how many FR's are to be fixed, drop a message 
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QtMoko - new dowload urls

2009-10-12 Thread Radek Polak
Hi,
because enormous traffic i have moved QtMoko downloads to:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/

There is also mirror of my GIT tree (i plan to use it only as backup, main 
development will remain on github) and we can use other SF services if needed 
(like mailing list).

Regards

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all: FR and 3G dongle?

2009-10-12 Thread William Kenworthy
Just come back from a 6 day/~3000km drive holiday up the coast of
Western Australia - looks like GSM is almost obsolete with 3 g coverage
in many places, but no GSM at all (or weirdly, the FR reports SOS only
when it looks like 3G only is present when on the 3G SIM :(  Talked to
some truckies in a pub and they all had 3G signals, GSM had none in the
town (Telstra - town was Northhampton, largeish regional centre) - they
said they never use GSM these days as coverage is miserable.

So the FR is now obsolete - but is it possible to use the FR with an
external 3G dongle? - I know it works for data from previous posts here,
but can you make voice/sms calls from an external 3G dongle?

If not, what is a viable, relatively open phone with similar
capabilities (but better quality, and actually works reliably!) to the
FR?

BillK

* We also took a Treo650, a nokia, an LG and an unknown phone on the 3
network.  FR - two major crashes requiring full reboot, one when a call
came whilst using TangoGPS full screen - the others annoyingly, and it
was noticed by my better half they Just Worked, unlike the FR :(



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Re: new Android Cupcake release for Freerunner

2009-10-12 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 12 October 2009, Levy wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 20:34, Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com wrote:
  That is so sad to hear google android without maps, gmail, etc... is
  there anyway to get those binaries and have them run on freerunner??
 
 One time I made a test with Gmail.apk that I got from a G1 and did not
 work! ! :-(

No surprise there. The G1 has a later family of ARM cpu with instructions the 
FR doesn't support.

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Re: new Android Cupcake release for Freerunner

2009-10-12 Thread Jim Ancona
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Levy levy.santa...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 20:34, Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com wrote:
 That is so sad to hear google android without maps, gmail, etc... is there
 anyway to get those binaries and have them run on freerunner??

 One time I made a test with Gmail.apk that I got from a G1 and did not
 work! ! :-(

Many of the Google Apps depend on APIs that aren't in the open source
distribution (e.g. for login). If you are interested, there is quite a
bit of discussion on the android-platform list
(http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform) around what to do
about the missing APIs and applications.

I've been working on an open source clone of the proprietary Google
Maps API. The code is here: http://gitorious.org/android-maps-api It
should be included in upcoming daily and weekly builds for the
android-on-freerunner project.

Jim

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Re: new Android Cupcake release for Freerunner

2009-10-12 Thread Jim Ancona
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Al Johnson
openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote:
 On Monday 12 October 2009, Levy wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 20:34, Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com wrote:
  That is so sad to hear google android without maps, gmail, etc... is
  there anyway to get those binaries and have them run on freerunner??

 One time I made a test with Gmail.apk that I got from a G1 and did not
 work! ! :-(

 No surprise there. The G1 has a later family of ARM cpu with instructions the
 FR doesn't support.

No, that's not the reason. With the exception of those built with the
new native development kit, apk's (the Android application packaging
format) run in the Dalvik VM and are processor independent. AFAIK, the
issue with is only missing APIs. Of course, that doesn't make Gmail
run any better, but it does mean that apps that are developed using
the public APIs and don't use the NDK should run across Android
platforms regardless of the underlying processor. And in fact, almost
all of the (non-Google) apps I've tried seem to run on my Freerunner.

Jim

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Tips when GSM doesn't work

2009-10-12 Thread Cristian Gómez
Hi guys, I've post this question on the IRC channel andunfortunately I face
that the IRC is abbandoned, only KenYoung answered (Thanks for being there).
I think that IRC makes our lifes more easier. PLEASE DON'T LET IT DIE!

After this request, this is my question:

I'm using my FR (with SHR - last) as main phone. I experienced sometimes
that when I start SHR, GSM functions doesn't start
I don't know how can I check any log or how can I start manually GSM
services, I type /etc/init.d/frameworkd restart, but I don't know if it's
supossed to solve this issue. Can you give me some advices to take in count
when I have this problem?

What I'm doing was:
it happens to me few hours ago, I was renaming icons of the desktop so I can
have them in the order I want
when I was editing pidgin.desktop I save the file (I was connected via SSH)
and got an error message that give me two choices: Restart - Stop
I press Stop and it goes to the terminal and hangs on a message: restarting
xserver
so I power down by removing the battery (I know, the ugly way) and wait a
few seconds to put it back again. When I power on the FR again, when SHR
starts, I don't have GSM services
I let the FR without any intervention a few minutes and it never get GSM
active, I tried restarting frameworkd and it doesn't do anything

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Re: Tips when GSM doesn't work

2009-10-12 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
2009/10/13 Cristian Gómez cristianp...@gmail.com:
 I'm using my FR (with SHR - last) as main phone. I experienced sometimes
 that when I start SHR, GSM functions doesn't start
 I don't know how can I check any log or how can I start manually GSM
 services, I type /etc/init.d/frameworkd restart, but I don't know if it's
 supossed to solve this issue. Can you give me some advices to take in count
 when I have this problem?
I've had this when the sim card isn't fully pushed into the slot
(contacts between phone and card aren't quite aligned) but you can
still lock it (or it feels like you lock it). I think mickeyterm
returns CME ERROR 3 on many SIM requests when this happens but it
might just do that anytime the GSM module is confused.

 so I power down by removing the battery (I know, the ugly way) and wait a
 few seconds to put it back again. When I power on the FR again, when SHR
 starts, I don't have GSM services
Happens when you do ugly things like that ;) You can also get further
trouble because the FR is designed such that a correctly aligned SIM
card pushes down the SD card.

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Re: [debian] unexpected troubles

2009-10-12 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com writes:

 Hi there...
 
 Is this generally the best place for Debian questions?  Or is
 smartphones-userland better?
 
 I've just installed Debian again, and am surprised to be experiencing
 some low-level problems.  Hopefully they are easily fixable.

I'll try addressing the issues that I can:

 As context, what I'm aiming at is:
 - Debian - for the best available package management
 - E17 + Illume - for Raster's keyboard, decent launcher and easy
 switching between windows
 - John Sullivan's fso-el - for performing phone functions from within Emacs.
 
 I've installed e17, and the UI comes up as expected.  I set an overall
 scaling factor of 2, to make everything easier to read and press.
 
 The problems I'm seeing now are:
 
 - Load average unreasonably high.  Right now, for example, my top says
 load average: 8.11, 8.13, 8.09.  Yet CPU usage is only reaching
 around 6%.

Do you perhaps have a bunch of processes waiting on disk I/O? Maybe
waiting to be paged-in from swap? How many processes are in
uninterruptible sleep (`D') state? These also contribute to the
load-counts, in Linux.

What does vmstat say (I usually run vmstat 2)?

What are your top memory-consuming processes (in terms of both real
and virtual memory footprint)?

Do you have a swap partition (or file)? Are you running from the
internal NAND flash, or a micro-SD card?

 - Emacs never appears, yet can't be killed.  E.g. I clicked on the
 launcher icon for Emacs about an hour ago, and nothing has appeared
 yet.  ps waux shows that there is an emacs process:
 
 root  1579  0.0   3.2   25700  3952 ?   DNs  17:44   0:00 /usr/bin/emacs23

Aha--well, there's at least /one/ process in uninterruptible-sleep state :)

 But kill 1579 and kill -9 1579 seem to have no effect on this.

The signal cannot be processed until the system call that is
blocking the process finishes.

 - Battery not apparently charging.  I'm using the USB lead from
 another Linux computer, which successfully charges OM2009/Paroli and
 SHR.  But with Debian there is no + on the battery icon, and no orange
 (or blue) light behind the power button.

There's mention of issues with APM on the DebianOnFreeRunner Debian
Wiki page:

 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner#KnownProblems

 - ssh (via USB) not working.  The desktop end looks fine:

While I'm very familiar with Debian on more traditional systems, I'm
not all that familiar with it as people run it on the FreeRunner.
However, as far as USB networking with Linux on the FreeRunner goes:

Is the `g_ether' module loaded on the FreeRunner?

Is the usb-ethernet interface configured on the FreeRunner?

 n...@arudy:~$ netstat -rn
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth1
 192.168.11.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
 0.0.0.0 192.168.11.10.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 eth0
 
 but
 
 n...@arudy:~$ ssh 192.168.0.202 -l root
 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host

What do ifconfig and route say on the FreeRunner?

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Re: Tips when GSM doesn't work

2009-10-12 Thread W.Kenworthy
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 20:58 -0500, Cristian Gómez wrote:
 Hi guys, I've post this question on the IRC channel andunfortunately I
 face that the IRC is abbandoned, only KenYoung answered (Thanks for
 being there). I think that IRC makes our lifes more easier. PLEASE
 DON'T LET IT DIE!
 
 After this request, this is my question:
 

IRC actually quite active - keep in mind most of the IRC population
seems to keep european day time and is quiet about now.

 I'm using my FR (with SHR - last) as main phone. I experienced
 sometimes that when I start SHR, GSM functions doesn't start
 I don't know how can I check any log or how can I start manually GSM
 services, I type /etc/init.d/frameworkd restart, but I don't know if
 it's supossed to solve this issue. Can you give me some advices to
 take in count when I have this problem?

What distro? - I find this  happens to me a lot - so much so that I have
a desktop icon named Reset :)  Write a script that stops the xserver,
and various fso services, kill -9 any remnants such as battget and then
restart the xserver which will start the services again.  For shr-u, GSM
is handled by fso-abyss and frameworkd so make sure they are dead after
stopping the service before restarting the xserver.

If its properly hung, you will find that things wont shut down cleanly
so the kill is often necessary - which would explain why frameworkd on
its own didnt work.  May take a few goes before it sorts itself out.
Occasionally it will be so fu-barred that you will need to remove the
battery for 30 seconds to get it to work again.

BillK

 What I'm doing was:
 it happens to me few hours ago, I was renaming icons of the desktop so
 I can have them in the order I want
 when I was editing pidgin.desktop I save the file (I was connected via
 SSH) and got an error message that give me two choices: Restart - Stop
 I press Stop and it goes to the terminal and hangs on a message:
 restarting xserver
 so I power down by removing the battery (I know, the ugly way) and
 wait a few seconds to put it back again. When I power on the FR again,
 when SHR starts, I don't have GSM services
 I let the FR without any intervention a few minutes and it never get
 GSM active, I tried restarting frameworkd and it doesn't do anything
 
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Re: Tips when GSM doesn't work

2009-10-12 Thread Gmail
Hi!

I'm having this issue periodicaly. My suggession for this problem is to
reinstall some packages with a magic command:

opkg install -force-reinstall libgsm0710mux0 libfsotransport0 \
 libfsoframework0 libfsobasics0 fso-abyss fsousaged \
libgsm0710mux-config frameworkd frameworkd-config-shr \
libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0 \
shr-contacts shr-messages shr-dialer ophonekitd

And after reboot GSM works fine for several days or weeks :)


В Втр, 13/10/2009 в 13:19 +1100, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir пишет:

 2009/10/13 Cristian Gómez cristianp...@gmail.com:
  I'm using my FR (with SHR - last) as main phone. I experienced sometimes
  that when I start SHR, GSM functions doesn't start
  I don't know how can I check any log or how can I start manually GSM
  services, I type /etc/init.d/frameworkd restart, but I don't know if it's
  supossed to solve this issue. Can you give me some advices to take in count
  when I have this problem?
 I've had this when the sim card isn't fully pushed into the slot
 (contacts between phone and card aren't quite aligned) but you can
 still lock it (or it feels like you lock it). I think mickeyterm
 returns CME ERROR 3 on many SIM requests when this happens but it
 might just do that anytime the GSM module is confused.
 
  so I power down by removing the battery (I know, the ugly way) and wait a
  few seconds to put it back again. When I power on the FR again, when SHR
  starts, I don't have GSM services
 Happens when you do ugly things like that ;) You can also get further
 trouble because the FR is designed such that a correctly aligned SIM
 card pushes down the SD card.
 
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