Re: Announcement: new batches of GTA04 ready for (pre)order
This is a good idea to offer your GTA01 for others to upgrade. @all: I think it would be great if others could follow. We have some requests to provide old GTA01/02 components, but we don't have enough for everyone who want to have a new GTA04 but lack a GTA01/02. So if you find yourself to have a GTA01 or GTA02 collecting dust, please consider offering it to those community members who need one for the GTA04. I have a GTA02 (850 mhz version) collecting dust. Currently it does not boot, likely because of completely discharged battery. Several months ago it booted but there was some problem with usb port - usbnet connection was contantly breaking after several minutes. But this is likely not important if upgrade to GTA04 is planned. I'm ready to sell it for 80 EUR + shipping. I'm located in Mosow/Russia. But I've never tried to send out goods so I'm not aware of the procedure. Nikita P.S. If there will ever be GTA0x in case with qwerty keyboard, I'd immediately order one. After n900, I can't live without qwerty keyboard on mobile device. Currently I use Android-based SonyEricsson sk17i, but Android silly limitations (such as broken multitasking) make me angry too often. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Announcement: new batches of GTA04 ready for (pre)order
Hi, Thanks for your announcement Nikolaus, it's really great ! I've just a little question more : I know that I can't buy a GTA04 before autumn 2012, have you planed to make other batches later ? Or even to have some partners who will sell your mother board at every moment ? I don't know if it's possible to have so partnership because it's only a mother board and not a complete phone... Thanks, Adrien smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Announcement: new batches of GTA04 ready for (pre)order
Hi Adrien, Am 17.11.2011 um 09:50 schrieb Adrien Dorsaz: Hi, Thanks for your announcement Nikolaus, it's really great ! I've just a little question more : I know that I can't buy a GTA04 before autumn 2012, have you planed to make other batches later ? Or Yes, we plan to continue production as long as there is demand and we can get the components (which are selected to be available for a while or are easily replaced). even to have some partners who will sell your mother board at every moment ? We will produce some immediately (at higher cost) to keep them available every time. This is the From Stock variant. The first boards are expected to be produced before end of this year. I don't know if it's possible to have so partnership because it's only a mother board and not a complete phone... It is not an issue of having a partner to run the production, it is more a problem of financing the stock before selling and defining reasonably big batches so that the one-time cost (setting up the machines etc.) stays low. In the long run, we assume that we can run larger batches to come into some continuously available mode. It feels like running a steam engine at optimal efficiency :) Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Turning on the GPRS connection on boot (QTMoko)
Hi, I am looking for a way to get the GPRS connection to start from the command line, or from boot in QTMoko. It works fine when I go to Internet settings and turn it on, but want to setup the open moko so it does this automatically. I am using this always connected to power, and want to be able to connect in from the Internet at any time. Any ideas? I have been trying to run the pppd process from the command line with the same options as I can see when QTMoko starts the process, but no luck so far. Regards Glen Ogilvie ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Turning on the GPRS connection on boot (QTMoko)
El día Friday, November 18, 2011 a las 12:34:05AM +1300, Glen Ogilvie escribió: Hi, I am looking for a way to get the GPRS connection to start from the command line, or from boot in QTMoko. It works fine when I go to Internet settings and turn it on, but want to setup the open moko so it does this automatically. I am using this always connected to power, and want to be able to connect in from the Internet at any time. Any ideas? I have been trying to run the pppd process from the command line with the same options as I can see when QTMoko starts the process, but no luck so far. Hi, My doc http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt describes in chapt. 7 all details about how to launch pppd from scripts; ofc it is Om2008 based, but you should be able to adapt this to your distribution. HIH matthias -- Matthias Apitz e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MCNavi 0.3.1 released
Hi, please wait some time for new version, there are some major changes, that make current release not compatible. I'm working on coastlines generation and it seems to be a little complicated. Otherwise try in MySQL simly with: 1. create user osm with password osm 2. create database osm and set permissions for user osm to access it You an use MySQL Administrator GUI for it, please refer to MySQL documentation. Mike Davide Scaini wrote: Hi Mike, I have now some time to try to build some maps... but it's not clear to me how should I set up mysql: In new version the convertor uses MySQL database to store the data. Previously it loaded all data to memory, so no large maps could be created. The connection to MySQL is done on local host, user and password is osm, database is osm, so create corresponding schema and user account in MySQL. In future releases it could be possible to change it via command line parameters. So what should I type in my terminal :D I'm not so familiar with mysql ... thanks d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@.openmoko http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/MCNavi-0-3-1-released-tp6755455p7004766.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MCNavi 0.3.1 released
On Thursday 17 November 2011 17:36:14 Mike Crash wrote: Hi, please wait some time for new version, there are some major changes, that make current release not compatible. I'm working on coastlines generation and it seems to be a little complicated. A bit of an open door, but didn't Mandelbrod find the same some 35 years ago? ;-) Good luck anyway! Boudewijn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Announcement: new batches of GTA04 ready for (pre)order
Am 17.11.2011 um 09:40 schrieb Nikita V. Youshchenko: P.S. If there will ever be GTA0x in case with qwerty keyboard, I'd immediately order one. After n900, I can't live without qwerty keyboard on mobile device. Currently I use Android-based SonyEricsson sk17i, but Android silly limitations (such as broken multitasking) make me angry too often. Building a reasonably good and tiny keyboard is a big challenge. David Leviathan has worked on some ideas and the GTA04 design is prepared for a keyboard controller chip (which is neither installed nor used). So if we find fresh ideas, everything is possible... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MCNavi 0.3.1 released
On 17.11.2011 18:56, Boudewijn wrote: On Thursday 17 November 2011 17:36:14 Mike Crash wrote: make current release not compatible. I'm working on coastlines generation and it seems to be a little complicated. A bit of an open door, but didn't Mandelbrod find the same some 35 years ago? ;-) And I was thinking of Slartibartfast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slartibartfast). Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MCNavi 0.3.1 released
make current release not compatible. I'm working on coastlines generation and it seems to be a little complicated. A bit of an open door, but didn't Mandelbrod find the same some 35 years ago? ;-) And I was thinking of Slartibartfast (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slartibartfast). oh! what has this world come to, that someone feels the need to explain who slartibartfast was ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sharing TSM30 source
Martix martix...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, no need to hurry. Openmoko community waited for more than three years for full open access to whole GTA02 internals, we can wait another month. The CD set destined for Cryptome, including the TSM30 CD, has been written and will go out in the mail tomorrow (Friday): the post office is already closed for the evening today. Now we have access to full documentation for TI Calypso and SMedia Glamo Ahh, so I assume you have found them under /pub/GSM on the ifctfvax.Harhan.ORG FTP server. :-) Note about the Calypso docs: while they are quite a bit more extensive than the two famous PDFs linked to from Openmoko wiki pages (the Leonardo board schematics really help one understand how the various pieces of the TI chipset fit together, and Calypso is only one chip out of that chipset), they still aren't 100% complete. Here are the missing parts I'm aware of: * There exist several different versions of the Calypso DBB (digital baseband) chip. I'm not sure if the docs I have are sufficient for navigating the differences between Calypso chip versions in various existing phones (see OsmocomBB). * The analog baseband (ABB, codenamed Iota) also exists in several versions, all of which appear to be compatible with the Calypso DBB. The only one for which I've found documentation is the TWL3014, aka the original Iota. (Iota's predecessor was apparently called Nausica, mentioned in passing in some Calypso docs.) However, as one can see from the board photos in the Om wiki, the GTA02 phone features TWL3025 instead of TWL3014. I don't know what the difference between these two chips is, and I don't know if the Iota codename applies only to TWL3014 or also to TWL3025. * In addition to the DBB and the ABB, a working phone includes 3 RF chips: - an active RF chip (RF xcvr) that's part of the TI chipset; - an RF PA (power amplifier), also active, but sourced from outside of TI; - a passive RF chip (antenna switch and filters) that is also sourced from outside of TI. I have docs for the TRF6151C RF transceiver (Rita) and the M034F passive RF front-end used on the quad-band Leonardo+ reference board. But I don't know what RF components are used on the GTA02 (or GTA01 for that matter). Reasoning from the fact that these phones aren't quad-band, I figure that at least some of the RF components ought to be different. However, this photo from the Om wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/images/a/af/Gta02a5_pcba_cs.JPG is not legible enough to make out what the RF components are. (One can see the TWL3025 ABB chip, and one can see *most* of the DBB chip part number, but the suffix of the latter, possibly important, is obscured by the metal shield structure.) Yes, I realize that I can take my GTA02 apart and look for myself, but the device is so delicate and so expensive that I'm afraid of destroying the gem. I hear that a number of GTA02s have been gutted to turn them into GTA04s... Perhaps someone can take one of those discarded GTA02 boards, remove all RF shields and snap some better photos? I also have a hard time understanding why Openmoko Inc. didn't make their phones quad-band GSM. All components in the Calypso chipset, including the classic Rita RF transceiver, support all 4 bands, and the only extra thing one needs is a quad-band-capable passive RF front-end chip. Why couldn't they just use M034F like on the Leonardo+ board or something equivalent? We may never know... and GSM firmware is on the way. We have opportunity to study and fix it. Another important clarification is in order here. The GSM FW whose source is in my possession, the one that's about to be sent to Cryptome and which I'm equally eager to share with anyone else via either an FTP upload or a CD-R by snail mail, is for the Vitelcom TSM30 phone, *not* GTA02 or GTA01. I don't have the GTA0x version, but some other individuals right here on this mailing list do, and are *actively* refusing to share - public shame on them! (Note the emphasis on *actively* refusing. There is a world of difference between having a mental handicap that stands in the way of learning modern file sharing techniques, but actively working around that handicap by offering to share via other means, however old- fashioned or unconventional they may be (my case with the TSM30 source), versus tacitly acknowledging possession of a ware which others desperately need, yet quite deliberately refusing to share on ideological grounds: the case of Paul Fertser and the Closedmoko firmware semi-source.) Porting the TSM30 version of the code to run on GTA02, replacing the original Closedmoko firmware, would probably be the shortest path toward the holy grail of making the GTA02 a fully free and functional phone, i.e., it would probably be a shorter path than transforming OsmocomBB into an end-user-usable firmware. However, even this shortest path appears to be a very steep mountain climb:
Re: Sharing TSM30 source
msoko...@ivan.harhan.org (Michael Sokolov) writes: What I'm basically saying is that for as long as the recognized / trusted / respected leaders of this community are acting selfishly and refusing to share a piece of ware with brothers in need, I feel no incentive to contribute to this community. First of all, i've never ever claimed i posses a copy. Second, even if i did have access to it but refused to share, that would mean i am bound by a promise and not by some stupid NDA. And you can imagine i do not break promises given to a friend. Third, i'm nowhere near being a recognised/respected leader of the community, i'm just a by-stander. So please, even if you do consider my behaviour offensive, you shouldn't extend your attitude to the whole community. I'm a bit dissappointed by you continiously trying to present me like a greedy stupid hamster, as in fact i'm not and i would share if i fucking could. I've honestly tried to help you. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
