Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 ? Results

2012-01-17 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, January 17, 2012 a las 11:49:00AM +0100, Christoph Pulster 
escribió:

  A lot of people gave up and do not want Openmoko phone anymore.
 
 The marketing of Openmoko Inc. failed. It was a short-sighted idee to  
 push the news with first open source mobile / free your phone.
 It resulted in c. 15000 sold units, which is no success story in the  
 long term. Besides it was never a ready-to-use mobile phone for everyday  
 use. Even some Linux-die-for-geeks closed their drawers to store the  
 Freerunner into it.

-1 (note: minus 1)

Since I got the FR some years ago, I used it with Om2008.9 and now with
SHR as my one and only and daily phone;

well, maybe because I'm not a Linux-die-for-geek, but a FreeBSD-die-for-geek
:-)

I will now buy the GTA04, once I get the offer requested :-)

matthias

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Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 ? Results

2012-01-17 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,


On 2012-01-17 22:16, Matthias Apitz wrote:

El día Tuesday, January 17, 2012 a las 11:49:00AM +0100, Christoph
Pulster escribió:


 A lot of people gave up and do not want Openmoko phone anymore.

The marketing of Openmoko Inc. failed. It was a short-sighted idee 
to

push the news with first open source mobile / free your phone.
It resulted in c. 15000 sold units, which is no success story in the
long term. Besides it was never a ready-to-use mobile phone for 
everyday

use. Even some Linux-die-for-geeks closed their drawers to store the
Freerunner into it.


-1 (note: minus 1)

Since I got the FR some years ago, I used it with Om2008.9 and now 
with

SHR as my one and only and daily phone;

well, maybe because I'm not a Linux-die-for-geek, but a 
FreeBSD-die-for-geek

:-)

I will now buy the GTA04, once I get the offer requested :-)



+1-1

I bought the FR as an experiment and didn't use it day-to-day - I 
played with every new version and was quite interested in the GPS 
functionality.  Sometime later my old phone died and by then QtMoko was 
nice enough to use as a daily phone but there are still some limitations 
(battery life, hard to hear in non-quiet situations, GPS app problems 
etc).  I am a Linux geek but a fairly light mobile phone user - I just 
couldn't justify spending another big chunk of money on something that 
uses the same case . .


My 2c

Regards,

Phil.
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Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 ? Results

2012-01-17 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller

Am 17.01.2012 um 11:49 schrieb Christoph Pulster:

 A lot of people gave up and do not want Openmoko phone anymore.
 
 The marketing of Openmoko Inc. failed. It was a short-sighted idee to  
 push the news with first open source mobile / free your phone.
 It resulted in c. 15000 sold units, which is no success story in the  
 long term. Besides it was never a ready-to-use mobile phone for everyday  
 use. Even some Linux-die-for-geeks closed their drawers to store the  
 Freerunner into it.

I think the key problem was neither the device nor the software itself. It was
how everything was organized. Too many restarts from scratch instead of
fixing the issues everyone was aware of...

 The way out of this dead-end would be advertising the Freerunner as  
 100% open source project platform with GSM functionality, mainly  
 aiming to business-customers, which base a solution on this hardware.
 Some intrepid small companies tried it, but support on Openmoko site was  
 poor, so they quit soon. Pushing this way of business, the sales would  

Business customers also need a long-term commitment that the devices
will remain in production and development as long as possible. This was not
given with stopping the GTA03 device shortly before it was finished.

 be factor 10x at least, which would help to survive Open Source companys  
 as Openmoko.
 
 I suggest the same thing to GTA04.  There are very few geeks left who  
 are willing to pay 500+ euro for a so-lala-working piece of hardware  
 with no nice looking case at all.

The GTA04 is open to any small or large company who wants to experiment
with the GTA04 board and wants to make business out of it and ordering
larger quantities.

We also have a special feature of the GTA04: the design process is very
flexible even for low quantities. Add an RFID reader, replace the display etc.
A sample is the GTA04-Custom device. Try this with one of the big 5 :)

Thanks for pointing out this additional feature of the GTA04.

 the idea is good, but the world isn't ready yet
 (Tocotronic, http://www.juzp.net/SDh4oshWf0GPO)

But still better than The idea was good, but the world has gone ahead...

Nikolaus


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Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 ? Results

2012-01-17 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, January 17, 2012 a las 11:05:22PM +1100, Philip Rhoades 
escribió:

 I bought the FR as an experiment and didn't use it day-to-day - I 
 played with every new version and was quite interested in the GPS 
 functionality.  Sometime later my old phone died and by then QtMoko was 
 nice enough to use as a daily phone but there are still some limitations 
 (battery life, hard to hear in non-quiet situations, GPS app problems 
 etc).  I am a Linux geek but a fairly light mobile phone user - I just 
 couldn't justify spending another big chunk of money on something that 
 uses the same case . .

Concerning some of your points:

battery life: this was always an issue while using Om2008.9; sometimes I
just ended up with a brick with no power; this was because suspend was
not working reliable, or better wakeup was not; now with SHR my FR is always
in suspend mode and wakes up fine on any incoming call, on SMS, on Alarm;
I run days(!) without looking for a recharge, really!

as well GPS is working like a champ, I start tangoGPS and after a few
seconds (in clear sky) the FR knows where we are;

give SHR a try (I'm running some stable version of 2010, I think)

matthias
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Information about linux drivers for voice in neofreerunner........

2012-01-17 Thread Arslan Abbasi
Hi,

I'm a development engineer at a firm and I'm working on a project of
encrypted voice communication using gsm. So, with the open functionality
provided by NeoFreeRunner, I opted for this phone. Currently i'm unable to
find any help related with real time voice processing and my target kinda
desires it.

I want to know if there are any embedded linux drivers available for
accessing the IIS port of it's MCU. And can i get any direction about how
to manipulate voice in it's application processor if there's any sample
code available.

Thanks  With Regards,
Arslan Mumtaz Abbasi.
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Re: Information about linux drivers for voice in neofreerunner........

2012-01-17 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Arslan Abbasi arslanabbasi2...@gmail.com writes:
 accessing the IIS port of it's MCU. And can i get any direction about
 how

What's IIS port?

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Re: Information about linux drivers for voice in neofreerunner........

2012-01-17 Thread Arslan Abbasi
The Inter IC sound pins interfaced with the audio codec.
I need help regarding any sound manipulation on this platform, if any code
is available.

Thanks!

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi
 wrote:

 Arslan Abbasi arslanabbasi2...@gmail.com writes:
  accessing the IIS port of it's MCU. And can i get any direction about
  how

 What's IIS port?

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Re: Information about linux drivers for voice in neofreerunner........

2012-01-17 Thread Radek Polak
On Wednesday 18 January 2012 07:16:06 Arslan Abbasi wrote:

 The Inter IC sound pins interfaced with the audio codec.
 I need help regarding any sound manipulation on this platform, if any code
 is available.

IIRC there was a program which recorded phone call if this is what you need. I 
dont know how it's done on GTA02 but on GTA04 phone modem is just another 
sound card which can be used by alsa programs. E.g. you can play mp3 instead 
of speaking.

Regards

Radek

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