Re: [Wikireader] updates not working?
On 07/07/2012 04:13 PM, Alexander Lehner wrote: On Sat, 7 Jul 2012, Doug Jones wrote: [...] I used the trick mentioned earlier in this thread. I trimmed the ?torrent off of the end of the URL and started downloading the entire file through Firefox. After a few megabytes I paused the download, copied the partial file into the download folder used by my bittorrent client, and told it to torrent that file. It contacted the tracker at amazon, which is indeed working, and the tracker found one peer (you), and sent you those megabytes. So the amazon tracker is working. And the file is indeed present on the amazon server. But the amazon tracker isn't using the amazon server as a seeder! So something is still wrong. I now managed to download the zip files and seeding them now (for depedia). Il will seed others also, in the hope, that the torrent network comes back to live. Off-topic soon, how-to: I used azureus/vuze. First downloaded the depedia*.7z files (as described earlier, without .torrent). Copied them into my torrent download folder. Asked vuze to download the torrent 'depedia*.7z.torrent' from the http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/ page. Got warning to continue/restart download, acknowledged that. Started to seed then... --- Just wondering: I was downloading the files from web with approx. 600kB. This is much faster than any torrent network will provide and faster than most other download sites. Who - if ever - will have to pay for this download speed? Does it make sense at all here, to use torrent network to distribute such kind of data? A. I assume that Openmoko is paying for the bits downloaded from that Amazon server. Of course, when we ask our bittorrent clients to download and seed the files, Amazon doesn't see the traffic going between other peers so Openmoko doesn't pay for that part. This is part of the reason we use bittorrent -- we are volunteering to take some of the bandwidth load ourselves instead of asking some centralized server to cover all those costs. Another reason for using bittorrent is this: Suppose a group of peers already have, between them, a complete copy of a given file. (No one peer needs to have all of the chunks; each chunk just needs to be on at least one peer in the group.) Then we just need to get a copy of the corresponding .torrent file to each peer, by whatever means, and then the peers can collectively act to build a complete copy of the big file on each peer. No centralized tracker is needed, as long as the peers can find each other. This brings the fully decentralized robustness of the Internet to torrent distribution. (Okay, DNS isn't fully decentralized yet, but that's another story...) This is what Tribler does. It allows peers to find each other without a tracker. I expect all bittorrent clients will eventually gain this capability. As to the question of whether bittorrent makes much sense for these particular files: That's a good question. If you have a bunch of peers, and one of them can pump out data at 600kBps and the others are much slower, then the fast one will presumably hand out most of the chunks and the slower ones won't do much at all. If the fast server is worried about cost, then it could throttle itself down when there are other peers seeding. But throttling itself down to zero (effectively that's what's happening now) is also undesirable, especially if the other peers don't have a complete copy between them yet ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Wikireader] project gutenberg - was: updates not working?
On 07/07/2012 04:28 PM, Alexander Lehner wrote: Gutenberg WikiReader files seem to got lost completely. http://dev.thewikireader.com/2010/06/26/project-gutenberg/ Sad - I liked that one. Any chance, to get it updated? A. The links on that particular page don't seem to work any more. But the most recent versions (from 2010) of Project Gutenberg are still available. The English-language version is listed on http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/ but the German-language version isn't listed there. However, I looked around a bit and found: http://wrmlbeta.s3.amazonaws.com/deguten-20100608.7z.001 To find that file, I just downloaded the XML file at: https://s3.amazonaws.com/wrmlbeta/ That XML file seems to contain the names of all the files shown on the language packs page, plus some other ones. I found the deguten file listed there. You shouldn't need the old Gutenberg-specific base file shown on that blog page. The latest generic base file (20120620) from the language packs page should work fine. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Wikireader] project gutenberg - was: updates not working?
Gutenberg WikiReader files seem to got lost completely. http://dev.thewikireader.com/2010/06/26/project-gutenberg/ Sad - I liked that one. Any chance, to get it updated? A. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Wikireader] updates not working?
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012, Doug Jones wrote: [...] I used the trick mentioned earlier in this thread. I trimmed the ?torrent off of the end of the URL and started downloading the entire file through Firefox. After a few megabytes I paused the download, copied the partial file into the download folder used by my bittorrent client, and told it to torrent that file. It contacted the tracker at amazon, which is indeed working, and the tracker found one peer (you), and sent you those megabytes. So the amazon tracker is working. And the file is indeed present on the amazon server. But the amazon tracker isn't using the amazon server as a seeder! So something is still wrong. I now managed to download the zip files and seeding them now (for depedia). Il will seed others also, in the hope, that the torrent network comes back to live. Off-topic soon, how-to: I used azureus/vuze. First downloaded the depedia*.7z files (as described earlier, without .torrent). Copied them into my torrent download folder. Asked vuze to download the torrent 'depedia*.7z.torrent' from the http://dev.thewikireader.com/language-packs/ page. Got warning to continue/restart download, acknowledged that. Started to seed then... --- Just wondering: I was downloading the files from web with approx. 600kB. This is much faster than any torrent network will provide and faster than most other download sites. Who - if ever - will have to pay for this download speed? Does it make sense at all here, to use torrent network to distribute such kind of data? A. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] MokoFaen theme v2
francesco.dev...@mailoo.org writes: >> But I'm a bit confused by all the similar theme names: faenqo, faenqomod >> and mokofaen. What's the history there, and is it still useful to have >> all these variants? > > Faenqo: > is the first theme in chronological sequence, made by cyberesprit. > I don't think it is maintained anymore, but it works and it's cute; > > FaenqoMod: > a mod of faenqo theme, made by me and based on the work of cyberesprit. > It works but I don't think I'll update it anymore; > > MokoFaen: > is a new theme, it's the ideal prosecution of faenqomod. > I'm currently working on it, and for the foreseeable future it's the > theme that I will update. Thanks for explaining that; now I'll go and try them all out a bit more. > To have all of them it's just to give choices to the users, maybe a > more accurate description in the download page could be useful. Yes, I think descriptions like you've given above would be nice. >> For example, if I want to add pressure somewhere, as I have with finxi, >> do I have to do that with all 3 of the themes above? > > Well, yes. But if you have some special request I could manage to add > some features in future releases, or you can simply hack and update > the themes yourself ;) As long as a theme has a continuing owner/designer, I guess it's best to go through him/her, for consistency of the theme design. In Finxi, I added a current pressure display (as e.g. "985mb") to the top left corner of the homescreen. Where do you think that would fit best in MokoFaen? Thanks, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New PowerVR SGX reverse engineering project
On Sat, 2012-06-16 at 12:43 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> Am 16.06.2012 um 12:06 schrieb Simon Busch:
> > The mailinglist is closed already cause of a possible lawsuit.
> There will be another one soon on a different gnu host,
Finally, we have a mailing list:
http://gnu.org.ve/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/powervr-devel
All are welcome but right now, the effort particularly needs people with
low level graphics experience to help with the reverse engineering. If
anyone here has such experience and is willing to help, I would
encourage you to join the list and make yourself known.
Bob
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Re: [Wikireader] updates not working?
On 07/07/2012 06:27 AM, Alexander Lehner wrote: On Fri, 6 Jul 2012, Doug Jones wrote: I can see the tracker now. Thanks to whoever fixed it. I am seeding a bunch of these files now. Partiall - enpedia works, but depedia for example not. Alex. Alex, You may have just noticed that you have downloaded a few megabytes of that depedia file through azureus. That's because I just seeded a small part of this file. I used the trick mentioned earlier in this thread. I trimmed the ?torrent off of the end of the URL and started downloading the entire file through Firefox. After a few megabytes I paused the download, copied the partial file into the download folder used by my bittorrent client, and told it to torrent that file. It contacted the tracker at amazon, which is indeed working, and the tracker found one peer (you), and sent you those megabytes. So the amazon tracker is working. And the file is indeed present on the amazon server. But the amazon tracker isn't using the amazon server as a seeder! So something is still wrong. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] MokoFaen theme v2
But I'm a bit confused by all the similar theme names: faenqo, faenqomod and mokofaen. What's the history there, and is it still useful to have all these variants? Faenqo: is the first theme in chronological sequence, made by cyberesprit. I don't think it is maintained anymore, but it works and it's cute; FaenqoMod: a mod of faenqo theme, made by me and based on the work of cyberesprit. It works but I don't think I'll update it anymore; MokoFaen: is a new theme, it's the ideal prosecution of faenqomod. I'm currently working on it, and for the foreseeable future it's the theme that I will update. To have all of them it's just to give choices to the users, maybe a more accurate description in the download page could be useful. For example, if I want to add pressure somewhere, as I have with finxi, do I have to do that with all 3 of the themes above? Well, yes. But if you have some special request I could manage to add some features in future releases, or you can simply hack and update the themes yourself ;) Regards Joif ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] MokoFaen theme v2
francesco.dev...@mailoo.org writes: > Critics and suggestions are always appreciated. I really like MokoFaen, thanks! But I'm a bit confused by all the similar theme names: faenqo, faenqomod and mokofaen. What's the history there, and is it still useful to have all these variants? It's a bit confusing for anyone who's not deeply into this yet. (For example, if I want to add pressure somewhere, as I have with finxi, do I have to do that with all 3 of the themes above?) Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Wikireader] updates not working?
On Fri, 6 Jul 2012, Doug Jones wrote: I can see the tracker now. Thanks to whoever fixed it. I am seeding a bunch of these files now. Partiall - enpedia works, but depedia for example not. Alex. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
