Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner
As a side note. When i select TLS, i'm not sure it's being saved. If i recall correctly, the qtopiamail config file just said I believe it does get saved - you have to watch out when you edit via the gui, the encryption setting for IMAP does not get loaded from the file, so you have to set that each time. encryption type = 2, whatever that means. When i edit account information it just shows up blank. When i select SSL, and save, then edit account info, the form appears with SSL picked. ah - I think this is what I described above - maybe it is just a TLS setting the gui does not load from file. i download Firefox and it comes with n cert signing certificates, how do i know they are secure? But i digress. You digress, but indeed the whole cert signing business by large corporate bodies sucks. -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner
hi, just as it was mentioned in this thread before I can confirm that with the web.de server which stores my mail only certain combinations of the login worked to give me the option to actually send my message (I think it took me about 20mins to figure out which ones...) br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
Hi Harald, all, To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do so since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
Hi Paul, I put it on my TODO list and will hopefully be able to do it still today. Thanks for pointing it out. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 04:50:46PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Hi Harald, all, To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do so since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ -- - Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org http://laforge.gnumonks.org/ Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option. (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openphoenux review on mobilejournal.net
Yes, basically they compare the features and price of gta04 with those of the most common devices (iphoneZ,,, samsung galaxy...). They also complain that some of the hw is obsolete or absent (camera); also that the os shipped (debian) doesn't actually allow to make/get calls. Ok, everybody knows a lower price could push more users to buy it, but that's like reinventing the wheel. What surprises me a bit is that too often reviewers are comparing a mass product with something which is not. They are different objects, like comparing a bicycle and a motorcycle. It is not clear in the mainstream view that gta04 has been created following different criteria from the mass production. It is not a device suitable for everybody; if we (community, producers etc) wanted a mass product, then it would have been made following the mass market rules (working conditions etc) Reading such kind of reviews disappoint me. u. On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:13:20 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Am 30.10.2012 um 17:48 schrieb urodelo: ...hard hitting the gta04 It's in Italian language http://www.mobilejournal.net/produttori/openphoenux-2804-lo-smartphone-opensource-vale-749-euro-11911 Tnx for the link! I have used Google translation and hope that I did understand it correctly... Well, they argue a little like that e.g. a Ferrari isn't worth its price if you take the value of the metal, leather and other components. And it has not its value because there are cheaper cars which give you more comfortable driving and space for your family... They are right that the price is high. They simply forget production cost for small batches and compare to the price of mass production under unknown working conditions in unknown production sites. This is similar to what drives the Ferrari to its high cost. AFAIK, they are hand made. The key problem is getting down the price. And the only way is to get to bigger production batches. We can moan about that (like this article) or do something... Nikolaus -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openphoenux review on mobilejournal.net
Il 31/10/2012 15:42, urodelo ha scritto: Reading such kind of reviews disappoint me. It disappoints me too, and it is not the first not accurate at all and generalist review that I read (I suppose it comes immediately after this one [1], in italian). What makes me angry it's that the authors do not get enough information nor they get a direct contact with the developers if they not are owners of a GTA0X. The result is a bad article, they do not even know what they're talking about, and they give to the people a bad idea of the GTA04. I don't know if it is better to ignore those bad blogs or to do something to give people the right perception of the GTA04 and of our community. Regards Joif [1] http://www.lffl.org/2012/10/openphoenux-2804-smartphone-open.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openphoenux review on mobilejournal.net
On Wed, 2012-10-31 at 20:50 +0100, francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote:
What makes me angry it's that the authors do not
get enough information nor they get a direct contact with the developers
if they not are owners of a GTA0X. The result is a bad article, they do
not even know what they're talking about, and they give to the people a
bad idea of the GTA04.
From my perspective, I don't know why anyone would assume that people
who write articles *ever* know what they're talking about. Most
articles are nonsense, written by people who earn a living producing
words and read by people who will never become aware of the absurdity of
what they read. Such is the nature of mass media; a vicious circle of
cultural degradation. Welcome to the our world :-)
Of course, we don't have to pay attention to those who spout nonsense..
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Re: openphoenux review on mobilejournal.net
On Wednesday 31 October 2012 20:50:02 francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: Il 31/10/2012 15:42, urodelo ha scritto: Reading such kind of reviews disappoint me. It disappoints me too, and it is not the first not accurate at all and generalist review that I read (I suppose it comes immediately after this one [1], in italian). What makes me angry it's that the authors do not get enough information nor they get a direct contact with the developers if they not are owners of a GTA0X. The result is a bad article, they do not even know what they're talking about, and they give to the people a bad idea of the GTA04. I agree: I can't say I'm happy with the contents of either review. On the other hand, there _are_ people seeing those pages. No such thing as bad publicity, they say. For sure, there are many libre software users who (still) never heard of Openmoko. I can even imagine not all Neo-owners know of OpenPhoenix. I don't know if it is better to ignore those bad blogs or to do something to give people the right perception of the GTA04 and of our community. That is the most important aspect that's missing, I think: the community. Members of open source projects more or less take the community for granted (projects without usually die, anyway). Buyers of mobile gadgets don't have community or fair trade on their checklist: it consists of GHz, GBs, cores and gens, and a smallest possible grand total at the bottom. I do think though, that the race for the bottom is not sustainable. Bigger numbers can still bring our price to a lower range, but with resources depleting on one hand and (hopefully) improving standards of living elsewhere it's hard to keep prices of consumer products falling as they have been doing for years now. Best regards, Boudewijn signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
