Supplies of new batteries (was: Re: is my GTA02 getting old?)
On Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:52:56 +0100, Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: is a compatible battery (with a coulomb counter) available? I second this question. It will become increasingly important as the years go on. I notice there is a plethora of different batteries on eBay for every type of laptop imaginable, seemingly all unbranded and coming from unknown Chinese factories. I wonder how difficult it would be to find a manufacturer who will produce new batteries for the GTA0{1,2,4}. Mr Pulster, Mr Schaller have either of you looked into this by any chance? -- Bob Ham r...@settrans.net for (;;) { ++pancakes; } ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?
In all this story the software side really puzzles me. The thing that I love in the GTA0x is that I can use a gnu/linux distro on it, i.e. my (poor) desktop knowledge apply more or less on the GTA0x. I know where to put my hands and where to find infos and support. I'm free to do what I want! But on another mobile system I'm lost, I have to learn it and maybe I don't want to. And who assure me that I'm free as I am on a GTA? - may I have a shell? - may I write a bash script? - may I control every services on it? - may I upgrade a single package or the entire system as I want? - may I install a software from source? Maybe yes, there are Android and its free fork Replicant and their SDKs but I have first to learn it. Smartphones are computers, and it makes me crazy that they do not work (software side) EXACTLY as my pc. IMHO it would be wonderful to have the same OS on desktop PCs and smarphones, maybe with different software repositories. I'm a Debian user and for me QtMoko is wonderful. So, to sum it up, it makes me nervous to have a new powerful smartphone if I cannot do what I want. Following this thought, I think the best solution is to have a cheap mobile phone and a netbook/tablet with a gnu/linux distro on it. Well... for now I still have my GTA02, I'll have to buy just a cheap phone for GSM and battery emergencies. [ If someone could help me for the bass fix I'll be happy to use it, finally, also as an audio player (: ] The recent news about the GTA04 make me happy, maybe I don't have to wait too long for it. Regards Joif ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:06:01 +0100 cyberesprit cyberesp...@cyberesprit.fr wrote: hi! There may be geeksphones? http://www.geeksphone.com/old/en/moviles/zero/ * The geeksphones(one and zero) require proprietary userspace libraries. * The geeksphones(one and zero) use a qualcomm System on a chip, which means that the sound card, the GPS Are attached to the Modem, not to mention the Shared memory(RAM attached on modem and CPU Bus) and shared NAND... Basically it's really bad for freedom. Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:28:48 +0100 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: speaking of the n900: FSO is supposed to support that one and i guess SHR would work too. i hope to get another n900 in a near future and to be able to test that Nice, we need help for the Modem-Sound card forwarder, because currently no one has time to fix it even if it's easy to fix(basically I've wrote(in code) what needed to be done but it's unfinished...and sits in branches...). Apart that GPS protocol is known but unimplemented, bluetooth is broken in SHR, meego, mer kernels, wifi works, camera probably works(you need some media-controller userspace commands to make it work, I documented it on the wiki, I don't remember which one between mplayer or gstreamer worked with theses commands, but still meego had a gstreamer plugin for the camera, we didn't package it tough), Audio works, Calls too but with sound issues, data/3g works, retriving contacts from the sim isn't implemented, and SMS isn't implemented either... The modem(and the GPS which is attached to the modem) talks a protocol called ISI, which is moslty documented by some headers and by ofono code. There is also a newer 3.x kernel that should be tried, it's from the port of Arch(a GNU/Linux distribution) on that phone. Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:29:49 +0100 francesco.dev...@mailoo.org wrote: But on another mobile system I'm lost, I have to learn it and maybe I don't want to. Yes android is very different. And who assure me that I'm free as I am on a GTA? I can assure you that you're not as free as on the GTA because the hardware will have issues. The closest phone is the GTA04, but it has a non-free wifi firmware. - may I have a shell? In Replicant/Android there is a shell and a GUI for it. - may I write a bash script? there is bash/sh in Replicant/Android. - may I control every services on it? Not in Replicant/Android - may I upgrade a single package yes, Fdroid supports that. or the entire system as I want? You'll have to reflash in Replicant. - may I install a software from source? You can't compile stuff on The target in Replicant, you'll have to use the SDK on a desktop/laptop computer. Maybe yes, there are Android and its free fork Replicant and their SDKs but I have first to learn it. Indeed. Smartphones are computers, and it makes me crazy that they do not work (software side) EXACTLY as my pc. Yes that's a problem. IMHO it would be wonderful to have the same OS on desktop PCs and smarphones, maybe with different software repositories. I'm a Debian user and for me QtMoko is wonderful. ok. So, to sum it up, it makes me nervous to have a new powerful smartphone if I cannot do what I want. Following this thought, I think the best solution is to have a cheap mobile phone and a netbook/tablet with a gnu/linux distro on it. or to port GNU/Linux on a smartphone that is easy enough, if you're into that kind of things and if you're skilled enough for that Or just buy a supported phone, however be sure to ask informations on the smartphone before buying it to the distro's developers. Well... for now I still have my GTA02, I'll have to buy just a cheap phone for GSM and battery emergencies. [ If someone could help me for the bass fix I'll be happy to use it, finally, also as an audio player (: ] Golden delicious did all fixes... The recent news about the GTA04 make me happy, maybe I don't have to wait too long for it. Yes it's a really good device: it's almost like the GTA02, but faster, better, less hardware bugs, but also has a non-free wifi firmware. Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [off-topic] smartphone alternatives?
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: Yes it's a really good device: it's almost like the GTA02, but faster, better, less hardware bugs, but also has a non-free wifi firmware. GTA02 also has non-free WiFi firmware, but it is in the WiFi chip's internal storage instead of loaded into internal RAM by Linux. It is also a very buggy beta version. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community